Trump’s Remarks on Charlottesville Violence Are Criticized as Insufficient


B00Mer
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Tecumsehsbones
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[QUOTE=10larry;2500042]Because we canucks are an obedient group, our pm sez our strength lies in diversity so we embrace everybody and everything, we don't buy into fake news, fake statues or history books that depict anything uncivilized.
Quote:

It's sorta like printing fiat currency, mask soaring debt by papering it over, ignorance is bliss....sunny ways!

Were you upset when Harper was doing it?
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post


Hey Boomer- I'm probably the first to agree with you if you think there may be better people who could be President than Trump, but in the meantime everyone should thank their lucky stars that he was able to beat Hillary. That woman is not fit to be president of the local P.T.A.
 
10larry
#604
[QUOTE=Tecumsehsbones;2500046]
Quote: Originally Posted by 10larry View Post

Because we canucks are an obedient group, our pm sez our strength lies in diversity so we embrace everybody and everything, we don't buy into fake news, fake statues or history books that depict anything uncivilized.

Were you upset when Harper was doing it?

He was more of a pragmatist, this hasta be purely speculative as steve was not faced with trumpisodes, not really a fan of any political position holder but he did see merit in combating isis. He also could say balance in the same sentence as budget where trudough feels there is no relationship twixt income and expenditure..... balanced budgets??... charge it!!
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
+2
#605
Every one is dumping their support for antifa the terrorists

because they have met the enemy and they are it.

"Nancy Pelosi condemns Antifa violence in Berkeley

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi released a statement Tuesday night condemning violence by members of the anti-facist movement Antifa during protests in Berkeley this weekend.

“Our democracy has no room for inciting violence or endangering the public, no matter the ideology of those who commit such acts,” Pelosi, who represents San Francisco, said in the statement. “The violent actions of people calling themselves antifa in Berkeley this weekend deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted.”
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/08/3...e-in-berkeley/


LOL there you have the low down on who the hell is who here
 
EagleSmack
+2
#606
The Democrats have a big problem. These Alt-Left racist thugs are now entrenched in the fabric of the Democrat Party.
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#607
Yeah, We'll just use blasting caps inside the body armor to absorb the shock!

If one follows the money this is one of the places it leads
now for the backers and fomenters of antifa to be shown the front of the stage...
and the press that was their propaganda arm
 
Bar Sinister
No Party Affiliation
#608
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

The Democrats have a big problem. These Alt-Left racist thugs are now entrenched in the fabric of the Democrat Party.

Maybe they will help to offset the neo-Nazis entrenched in the GOP.
 
EagleSmack
#609
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

Maybe they will help to offset the neo-Nazis entrenched in the GOP.

Drink that Kool-Aid!
 
Bar Sinister
No Party Affiliation
#610
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

Drink that Kool-Aid!

What are you saying there are no Neo-Nazis in the GOp? Hell, you've got one for a president.
 
spaminator
#611
Michigan State University sued for denying Richard Spencer rental space for speech
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
First posted: Sunday, September 03, 2017 10:27 PM EDT | Updated: Sunday, September 03, 2017 10:33 PM EDT
DETROIT — A lawsuit has been filed against Michigan State University after it denied a request to rent space on campus for white nationalist Richard Spencer to speak in September.
Georgia State University student Cameron Padgett, who tried to rent the room, sued Sunday alleging the university is violating Spencer’s free speech.
The East Lansing school has said in a statement the decision was made “due to significant concerns about public safety” and cited the “tragic violence” in Charlottesville, Virginia.
Spencer said in a text message to the Associated Press Sunday that, “Cameron Padgett is a brave young man who has my full support.”
Spencer was scheduled to speak at a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville that ended in violence.
A woman was killed after a car drove into counterprotesters.
Michigan State University sued for denying Richard Spencer rental space for spee
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

What are you saying there are no Neo-Nazis in the GOp? Hell, you've got one for a president.

He's been a little 'different' since Feb 2016.
 
DaSleeper
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#613
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

What are you saying there are no Neo-Nazis in the GOp? Hell, you've got one for a president.





 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#614
Just cause they make it up they think it's true
that's the folly of the left...behind

Oh well, the antifas are getting thrown in jail for calling a prayer group NAZIs
figures

Berkeley Police Arrest 13 Protesters In Connection To Antifa Violence
Many of them chanted slogans like “No Trump, no wall, no USA at all.”
http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/29/be...tifa-violence/
No USA eh? Well we know what they and their supporters want too now
Right there in plain English

Poor little globalcummunnazis are gonna get "bummed" in jail
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#615
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post






And if the name Hitler was replaced with the name Trump, whose law would that be? Mental Floss's??
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#616
the law of diminished interns?
 
spaminator
#617
NAACP wants slave auction block moved from Virginia city's downtown
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
First posted: Friday, September 22, 2017 03:24 PM EDT | Updated: Friday, September 22, 2017 03:29 PM EDT
FREDRICKSBURG, Va. — An NAACP chapter is asking a Virginia city to move a slave auction block from its downtown.
The Free Lance-Star reported Thursday that the knee-high stone block sits at a site where enslaved people were bought and sold in Fredericksburg.
It has haunted black residents for years. People sometimes stand on it for photographs. The NAACP’s Fredricksburg branch is calling for the block to be replaced by a historical panel.
Discussions about moving the block began after last month’s deadly violence in Charlottesville, Virginia.
City officials are seeking comment on two possible paths forward. One envisions adding interpretive panels and protective measures to the site. Another would move the block, possibly to a museum, and replace it with a historical marker. A sign would offer directions to its new location.
This photo taken May 5, 2005, shows the historic pre-civil war auction block for slaves and property at the corner of Charles and William Streets in downtown Fredericksburg, Va. (Reza A Marvashti /The Free Lance-Star via AP)

NAACP wants slave auction block moved from Virginia city's downtown | World | Ne
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
+1
#618


Trump’s base might still support him, but the rest of the world has lost all faith in the United States. Our leader is a deranged, delusional manchild who constantly indulges in his worst instincts to the detriment of the American people and the world at large.
It’s a popular talking point that the Republican Party has shockingly, suddenly sunk into the gutter, but Trump is really just the apotheosis of decades of paranoia, racism and bad policy. The GOP was always going to end with a lowest common denominator candidate. If you glorify the worst aspects of human nature, it follows that the worst person imaginable will become your champion.
In their newest issue, Newsweek seeks to address the gradual and inevitable degradation of the Republican Party, calling Trump insane in bold lettering. Their cover is a showstopping condemnation of our monstrous president.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#619
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post



Trump’s base might still support him, but the rest of the world has lost all faith in the United States. Our leader is a deranged, delusional manchild who constantly indulges in his worst instincts to the detriment of the American people and the world at large.
It’s a popular talking point that the Republican Party has shockingly, suddenly sunk into the gutter, but Trump is really just the apotheosis of decades of paranoia, racism and bad policy. The GOP was always going to end with a lowest common denominator candidate. If you glorify the worst aspects of human nature, it follows that the worst person imaginable will become your champion.
In their newest issue, Newsweek seeks to address the gradual and inevitable degradation of the Republican Party, calling Trump insane in bold lettering. Their cover is a showstopping condemnation of our monstrous president.

Yet it is the Republican Party that is holding the most seats in the House and the Senate . Oh and did I mention Governorship's and State Houses ? You best look across the aisle for the party that is sinking .
 
spaminator
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Suspect in Charlottesville car attack faces new 1st-degree murder charge
Associated Press
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Published:
December 14, 2017
Updated:
December 14, 2017 11:07 PM EST
In this Aug. 12, 2017 file photo, people fly into the air as a vehicle is driven into a group of protesters demonstrating against a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Va.Ryan M. Kelly / AP Photo
CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. — The man accused of driving into a crowd protesting a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville faces a new charge of first-degree murder after a court hearing Thursday in which prosecutors presented surveillance video and other evidence against him.
Prosecutors announced at the start of a preliminary hearing for James Alex Fields that they were seeking to upgrade the second-degree murder charge he previously faced in the Aug. 12 collision in Charlottesville that left 32-year-old Heather Heyer dead and dozens injured. The judge agreed to that and ruled there is probable cause for all charges against Fields, including nine lesser felony counts, to proceed.
Fields’ case will now be presented to a grand jury for an indictment.
Authorities say the 20-year-old, described by a former teacher as having a keen interest in Nazi Germany and Adolf Hitler, drove his speeding car into a group of counterprotesters the day of the “Unite the Right” rally that drew hundreds of white nationalist from around the country. The attack came after the rally in this Virginia college town had descended into chaos — with violent brawling between attendees and counterdemonstrators — and authorities had forced the crowd to disband.
Surveillance footage from a Virginia State Police helicopter, played by prosecutors in court, captured the moment of impact by the car and the cursing of the startled troopers on board. The video then showed the car as it reversed, drove away and eventually pulled over. The helicopter had been monitoring the violence, and prosecutors questioned Charlottesville Police Detective Steven Young about the video as it played.
Another surveillance video from a restaurant showed the car head slowly in what Young testified was the direction of the counterprotesters, who were not in view of the camera. The car reversed before speeding forward into the frame again.
After that footage, a man in the crowd shouted an expletive and cried out, “Take me out.” He and others left the courtroom.
Fields, of Maumee, Ohio, sat quietly in a striped jumpsuit with his hands cuffed during the hearing.
His attorney Denise Lunsford did not present evidence or make any arguments at the hearing, although she did cross-examine the detective.
Fields was photographed hours before the attack with a shield bearing the emblem of Vanguard America, one of the hate groups that took part in the rally, although the group denied any association with him.
A former teacher, Derek Weimer, has said Fields was fascinated in high school with Nazism, idolized Adolf Hitler, and had been singled out by officials at his Union, Kentucky, school for “deeply held, radical” convictions on race.
This photo provided by the Albemarle-Charlottesville Regional Jail shows James Alex Fields Jr., who had a preliminary court hearing in Charlottesville, Va. on Thursday, Dec. 14, 2017. (Albemarle-Charlottesville Regional Jail via AP)
During her cross-examination of Young, Lunsford asked if searches of Fields’ computer, phone or social media revealed any evidence that he was part of Vanguard America or any other white nationalist group. Young said, “No.”
Young also testified that he was among the first officers to respond to the scene where Fields pulled over. No weapon was found in the car, he said.
Lunsford asked the detective what Fields said as he was being detained.
Fields said he was sorry and asked if people were OK, according to Young. When Fields was told someone had died, he appeared shocked and sobbed, Young said.
Young said authorities had identified 36 victims of the car attack, including Heyer — a number higher than officials have previously given. Some have significant injuries and are “wheelchair bound,” Young said.
Fields would have faced between five to 40 years in prison for a second-degree murder conviction. First-degree murder carries a penalty of 20 years to life in prison.
Charlottesville General District Court Judge Robert Downer Jr. also presided over preliminary hearings Thursday for three other defendants. Charged in cases related to the August rally are Richard Preston, who is accused of firing a gun, and Jacob Goodwin and Alex Ramos, who are accused in an attack on a man in a parking garage that was captured in photos and video that went viral.
The judge certified the charges against all three men. All those cases will also head to a grand jury.
Jason Kessler, the main organizer of the Unite the Right rally, was in court to watch the proceedings. When he arrived Thursday, a small crowd of angry protesters outside the courthouse chanted, “Blood on your hands.”
Suspect in Charlottesville car attack faces new 1st-degree murder charge | Toronto Sun
 
Angstrom
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#621


I remember this.

This is the event when Mentalflake triggered, totally lost is shit, and turned into a complete fruit cake. He never will be the same again.
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#622
*hug*
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#623
WOW! How intelligent!

A minnow with a nail through both eyes and a board could come up with a better answer then that!

Are there any other posts in your play book? We are sick of your repetition of that one...
it sounds so democratically "ghay like" when you post it.

Creepy Like Joe Bidan's hands on a little boy.
 
Cannuck
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#624
*hug*
 
DaSleeper
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JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post



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????
 
Cannuck
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#627
*hugs*
 
spaminator
#628
White nationalist guilty of black man’s assault in Charlottesville
Associated Press
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Published:
May 2, 2018
Updated:
May 2, 2018 6:48 AM EDT
CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. — A white Arkansas man charged in the beating of a black man during a violent white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, has been found guilty of malicious wounding.
News outlets report 23-year-old Jacob Scott Goodwin was found guilty Tuesday for the August attack on 20-year-old DeAndre Harris.
The jury recommended a sentence of 10 years, with the option of suspending some time and a $20,000 fine.
Harris suffered a spinal injury, a broken arm and head lacerations that required eight staples after the parking garage assault. Three others were arrested.
Jacob Scott Goodwin
Goodwin claimed self-defence.
However, Assistant Commonwealth’s Attorney Nina-Alice Antony says it was Goodwin who wanted to square off.
DeAndre Harris
The rally was held to protest the removal of a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee from a city park.
White nationalist guilty of black man’s assault in Charlottesville | Toronto Sun
 
spaminator
#629
Man accused of running over counterprotesters at white nationalist rally to argue self-defence
Associated Press
Published:
November 26, 2018
Updated:
November 26, 2018 6:39 PM EST
In this Aug. 12, 2017, file photo, people fly into the air as a vehicle is driven into a group of protesters demonstrating against a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Va. The accused, James Alex Fields Jr., is seen (inset). (Ryan M. Kelly/The Daily Progress via AP, File/Albemarle-Charlottesville Regional Jail via AP, File)
CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. — An Ohio man charged with killing a woman during a white nationalist rally in Virginia plans to argue that he believed he was acting in self-defence when he drove his car into a crowd of counterprotesters.
A lawyer for James Alex Fields Jr. offered a glimpse of the defence strategy as jury selection began Monday in Charlottesville, 15 months after this quiet Virginia city became a flash point for race relations in the U.S.
The “Unite the Right” rally on Aug. 12, 2017, rally drew hundreds of white nationalists to Charlottesville, where officials planned to remove a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee. Hundreds more showed up to protest against the white nationalists.
The two sides began brawling before the rally got underway, throwing punches, setting off smoke bombs and unleashing chemical sprays. Later, 32-year-old Heather Heyer was killed when a car authorities say was driven by Fields plowed into a crowd of counterprotesters.
A makeshift memorial of flowers and a photo of victim, Heather Heyer, sits in Charlottesville, Va., Sunday, Aug. 13, 2017.
Afterwards, U.S. President Donald Trump enflamed racial tensions when he said “both sides” were to blame, a comment some called a refusal to condemn racism.
Fields’ attorney, John Hill, told a group of prospective jurors Monday the jury will hear evidence that Fields “thought he was acting in self-defence.”
Nearly all of the 68 prospective jurors in the first group to be questioned said they had read or heard about the case.
About 20 people said they had formed an opinion on it, but also indicated they could put that aside and decide the case based solely on the evidence presented in court.
Fields, now 21, was photographed hours before the attack with a shield bearing the emblem of Vanguard America, one of the hate groups that participated in the rally, although the group denied any association with him. One of Fields’ teachers has said he was fascinated by Nazism and admired Adolf Hitler.
The silver Dodge Charger allegedly driven by James Alex Fields Jr. passes by police officers near the Market St. Parking Garage moments after driving into a crowd of counter-protesters on Water St. on Aug. 12, 2017, in Charlottesville, Va. Matthew Hatcher / Getty Images
Pretrial hearings have offered few insights into Fields. A Charlottesville police detective testified that as he was being detained after the car crash, Fields said he was sorry and sobbed when he was told a woman had been killed. Fields later told a judge he is being treated for bipolar disorder, anxiety, depression and ADHD.
During jury selection Monday, Fields glanced several times at the crowd of prospective jurors in the courtroom and answered “Yes, sir” when asked introductory questions by Judge Richard Moore.
After asking general questions of prospective jurors, the judge, defence attorneys and prosecutors questioned individual jurors privately. By 2:30 p.m., only about nine people out of a group of 28 had been questioned.
Moore acknowledged the process is “slow going.”
“We’re trying to be as careful as we can for both sides of the case,” Moore said.
Fields’ lawyers had asked to move the trial out of Charlottesville, arguing that an unbiased jury could not be picked in the city so deeply affected by the violence. Moore did not grant the motion, but indicated it could be revisited if finding an impartial jury in Charlottesville proved difficult.
Star Peterson, whose right leg was virtually crushed by the car, has had five surgeries and still uses a wheelchair and cane. She sat quietly in the courtroom Monday watching the proceedings as a friend comforted her. Peterson declined to comment.
Moore said 12 jurors and four alternate jurors will be chosen. The trial is expected to last about three weeks.
http://torontosun.com/news/crime/man...e-self-defence
 
spaminator
#630
Man who drove into Charlottesville crowd convicted of first-degree murder
Associated Press
Published:
December 7, 2018
Updated:
December 7, 2018 8:28 PM EST
CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. — A man who drove his car into counterprotesters at a 2017 white nationalist rally in Virginia was convicted Friday of first-degree murder, a verdict that local civil rights activists hope will help heal a community still scarred by the violence and the racial tensions it inflamed nationwide.
A state jury rejected defence arguments that James Alex Fields Jr. acted in self-defence during a “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville on Aug. 12, 2017. Jurors also convicted Fields of eight other charges, including aggravated malicious wounding and hit and run.
Fields, 21, drove to Virginia from his home in Maumee, Ohio, to support the white nationalists. As a large group of counterprotesters marched through Charlottesville singing and laughing, he stopped his car, backed up, then sped into the crowd, according to testimony from witnesses and video surveillance shown to jurors.
In this Aug. 12, 2017 file photo, people fly into the air as a vehicle is driven into a group of protesters demonstrating against a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Va. Ryan M. Kelly / AP Photo / Files
Prosecutors told the jury that Fields was angry after witnessing violent clashes between the two sides earlier in the day. The violence prompted police to shut down the rally before it even officially began.
Heather Heyer, a 32-year-old paralegal and civil rights activist, was killed, and nearly three dozen others were injured. The trial featured emotional testimony from survivors who described devastating injuries and long, complicated recoveries.
After the verdict was read in court, some of those who were injured embraced Heyer’s mother, Susan Bro. She left the courthouse without commenting. Fields’ mother, Samantha Bloom, who is disabled, left the courthouse in a wheelchair without commenting.
A group of about a dozen local civil rights activists stood in front of the courthouse after the verdict with their right arms raised in the air.
“They will not replace us! They will not replace us!” they yelled, in a response to the chants heard during the 2017 rally, when some white nationalists shouted: “You will not replace us! and ”Jews will not replace us.“
Charlottesville City Councilor Wes Bellamy said he hopes the verdict “allows our community to take another step toward healing and moving forward.”
Charlottesville civil rights activist Tanesha Hudson said she sees the guilty verdict as the city’s way of saying, “We will not tolerate this in our city.”
“We don’t stand for this type of hate. We just don’t,” she said.
Man accused of running over counterprotesters at white nationalist rally to argue self-defence
Suspect in Charlottesville car attack pleads not guilty
Suspect in Charlottesville car attack faces new 1st-degree murder charge
White nationalist Richard Spencer, who had been scheduled to speak at the Unite the Right rally, described the verdict as a “miscarriage of justice.”
“I am sadly not shocked, but I am appalled by this,” he told The Associated Press. “He was treated as a terrorist from the get-go.”
Spencer had questioned whether Fields could get a fair trial since the case was “so emotional.”
“There does not seem to be any reasonable evidence put forward that he engaged in murderous intent,” Spencer said.
Spencer popularized the term “alt-right” to describe a fringe movement loosely mixing white nationalism, anti-Semitism and other far-right extremist views. He said he doesn’t feel any personal responsibility for the violence that erupted in Charlottesville.
“Absolutely not,” he said. “As a citizen, I have a right to protest. I have a right to speak. That is what I came to Charlottesville to do.”
The far-right rally in August 2017 had been organized in part to protest the planned removal of a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee. Hundreds of Ku Klux Klan members, neo-Nazis and other white nationalists — emboldened by the election of President Donald Trump — streamed into the college town for one of the largest gatherings of white supremacists in a decade. Some dressed in battle gear.
Afterward, Trump inflamed tensions even further when he said “both sides” were to blame, a comment some saw as a refusal to condemn racism.
According to one of his former teachers, Fields was known in high school for being fascinated with Nazism and idolizing Adolf Hitler. Jurors were shown a text message he sent to his mother days before the rally that included an image of the notorious German dictator. When his mother pleaded with him to be careful, he replied: “we’re not the one (sic) who need to be careful.”
During one of two recorded phone calls Fields made to his mother from jail in the months after he was arrested, he told her he had been mobbed “by a violent group of terrorists” at the rally. In another, Fields referred to the mother of the woman who was killed as a “communist” and “one of those anti-white supremacists.”
Prosecutors also showed jurors a meme Fields posted on Instagram three months before the rally in which bodies are shown being thrown into the air after a car hits a crowd of people identified as protesters. He posted the meme publicly to his Instagram page and sent a similar image as a private message to a friend in May 2017.
But Fields’ lawyers told the jury that he drove into the crowd on the day of the rally because he feared for his life and was “scared to death” by earlier violence he had witnessed. A video of Fields being interrogated after the crash showed him sobbing and hyperventilating after he was told a woman had died and others were seriously injured.
Wednesday Bowie, who was struck by Fields’ car and suffered a broken pelvis and other injuries, said she felt gratified by the guilty verdict.
“This is the best I’ve been in a year and a half,” Bowie said.
The jury will reconvene Monday to recommend a sentence. Under Virginia law, jurors can recommend from 20 years to life in prison on the first-degree murder charge.
Fields is eligible for the death penalty if convicted of separate federal hate crime charges. No trial has been scheduled yet.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_FBZUxoxLSk
http://torontosun.com/news/crime/man...-degree-murder