I don't think that I can bake it


Locutus
#1
As the western world struggles to decide who is and who isn't required under penalty of law to bake a cake, here's the latest on this rapidly developing story:
Denver bakery wins right to refuse to make anti-gay cake .
That certainly helps to settle the issue, but it also raises a new question: does this mean that an individual still has no right not to refuse to make a non anti-gay cake?



Yes, I would think not, they do indeed.


I don't think that I can bake it - Small Dead Animals
 
Canbitbill
#2
'To bake a cake quite large and fill each layer in between with icing mixed with poison till it turns a tempting green'. Sounds like that sort of cake (Apologies to Rex Harisson et all).
 
Ludlow
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cause it took too long to make it and I'll never have that recipe again,,,,,???? ~Richard Harris~
 
tay
#4
Former televangelist Joshua Feuerstein , who claims to be a Christian who loves Jesus, did a remarkably un-Christian, un-Jesuslike thing on April 1. To make a point about why he supports controversial religious freedom bills, like the one recently passed in Indiana, he called a local bakery in Longwood Florida, asked them to make a sheet cake with an anti-gay marriage message on it and when the owner first asked him if this was an April Fools joke, told him she wouldn't put that message on a cake and hung up, he sicced his followers on her.


Maybe that wouldn't be such a big deal if Feuerstein didn't have more than a million Facebook followers who apparently cling rabidly to his words and take action when he tells them to.

Check out the video that he originally posted to Facebook, in which he calls Cut the Cake bakery on video, gives viewers the owner's name, then encourages his fans to "call her yourself, ask her the same exact questions" and "show the hypocrisy" of Cut the Cake (which, as far as we can tell, didn't do anything hypocritical; he just decided to use them to make his angry point), share his video, etc.


Feuerstein has since removed this video from his own YouTube and Facebook pages, but the damage is already done. His followers (disciples?) attacked the business' Facebook page, posting multiple one-star reviews, some referencing Feuerstein's video, others making up completely fictitious bad experiences they had with Cut the Cake. Like this one, who pretended to be in the shop and "overheard" a conversation between two employees discussing their views on gay marriage "and wouldn't make a cake for someone wanting something different than what they believe in." Erm. Right.





Former televangelist sics angry followers on local bakery to make a point about religious freedom | Blogs | Orlando Weekly








www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=X6-M4crDe1k
 
spaminator
#5
at least they weren't asked to bake a gayke.
 
Sal
#6
I would kill for a large piece of vanilla cake with butter cream icing

even a gayke would be okay if it had butter cream icing...

I don't like fondant
 
spaminator
+1
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by Sal View Post

I would kill for a large piece of vanilla cake with butter cream icing

even a gayke would be okay if it had butter cream icing...

I don't like fondant

i'd be wary of what other ingredients were used.
 
Sal
#8
just a quick question Loc, did you leave yours out in the rain?

just look for the recipe again
 
eh1eh
#9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD71JeX4Vk0
 
tay
#10
Judge to Sweet Cakes: Pay $135K to lesbian couple






PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) – An administrative law judge proposes that the owners of an Oregon bakery pay $135,000 to a lesbian couple refused service more than two years ago.


The judge, Alan McCullough, ruled in January that Sweet Cakes by Melissa discriminated against Laurel and Rachel Bowman-Cryer by refusing to bake them a wedding cake.


The bakers cited their religious beliefs. The case is one that has been cited in the national debate over religious freedom and discrimination against gays.


Friday’s proposed order dealt with the award for emotional suffering.


The sides will review the proposal and have the chance to file exceptions before Oregon Labor Commissioner Brad Avakian issues a final order.


Bakery owners Aaron and Melissa Klein closed their Gresham store in 2013 and operate the business from home.






Judge to Sweet Cakes: Pay $135K to lesbian couple












 
spaminator
#11
Oregon bakery pays $144,000 in damages in lesbian wedding cake case
Shelby Sebens, Reuters
First posted: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 02:01 PM EST | Updated: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 02:08 PM EST
PORTLAND, Ore. - The owners of a Portland-area bakery who refused on religious grounds to bake a wedding cake for a lesbian couple have paid about US$144,000 in damages despite their ongoing appeal of the discrimination case, a state official said on Tuesday.
The damages were ordered after Aaron and Melissa Klein, owners of the Sweet Cakes by Melissa bakery, refused to bake a cake in 2013 when Laurel and Rachel Bowman-Cryer were planning their nuptials.
Aaron Klein handed the state a check for nearly $137,000 on Monday, Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries spokesman Charlie Burr said. The payment was first reported by the Oregonian newspaper late on Monday.
The money was added to $7,000 received from the Kleins earlier this month through private collection efforts spearheaded by the state's Department of Justice, Burr told Reuters.
After the owners' refusal to bake the cake, the state bureau found they had violated anti-discrimination laws because their shop is not a registered religious institution. It ordered them to pay the Bowman-Cryers $135,000 in damages.
The Kleins appealed the ruling and had refused to pay the damages, citing financial hardship.
Burr said the shop owners subsequently raised about $500,000 from supporters via an online crowdfunding effort.
The damages had been accruing interest since the damages were ordered due in July. "We were in touch with their attorneys in giving precise amounts in what they needed to pay to cease collection efforts," Burr said.
The Kleins' lawyer, Tyler Smith, said the bakery owners are "devoted to honoring God in every aspect of their lives, including how they conduct themselves in this litigation."
In order to pursue their appeal, he said in an emailed statement, Oregon law requires that the Kleins either pay the damages or obtain a bond for the imposed amount.
The least expensive option to stay in compliance with the law was to pay the funds that the labor bureau will hold in a separate account "until they prevail in their court appeal," Smith said.
Burr said the state will hold the damages until all appeals are settled. The case will go to the Oregon Court of Appeals next year and could ultimately go to the state's Supreme Court.
The Bowman-Cryers were married in 2014 after a federal judge struck down Oregon's same-sex marriage ban.
The bakery case is one of many disputes nationwide since the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in June to legalize same-sex marriage in all 50 states.
This Feb. 5, 2013, photo shows Sweet Cakes by Melissa in Gresham, Ore. An administrative law judge in April 2015 proposed that the owners of the suburban Portland bakery pay $135,000 to a lesbian couple who were refused service more than two years ago. The bakery has now paid that amount to the couple. (Everton Bailey Jr./The Oregonian via AP, File)

Oregon bakery pays $144,000 in damages in lesbian wedding cake case | World | Ne
 
DaSleeper
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by tay View Post



Would the decision have been different if the Bakery owners were Muslims?

Just wondering.............
 

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