Saudi Arabia expelling Canadian ambassador, suspending new trade


Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#721
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Is that based on how they would have 'done it'??

Premeditated murder by the crown Prince. ?? Yep....it is bad. Five people will be put to death for executing it..... leaving no witnesses The detail s of the report that have been released are damning. Like the phone call to the Prince indicating "mission accomplished"( not the exact phrase_

Yet the fear of destabilising the country or damaging relations (OIL thing).....is handicapping nations from being more assertive about the atrocity of the premeditated assassination.

But Trump says he spoke with the prince and the prince denied it and Trump believes him.
The Prince s another narcissist with sadistic components of him. And has now proven himself to be dangerous. Trump seems to like him.( as he likes Putin and Kim ..(leaders of the free world ......Not so much. Go figure.
Last edited by Ocean Breeze; Nov 16th, 2018 at 07:49 PM..
 
MHz
#722
Perhaps the 'stuff' in their travel bags is standard for a 'death squad stuff' rather than they are hard to find in Turkey. 'Death Squad Member' under 'occupation' might save a whole bunch of useless questions, especially when their answers are about your personal life.


Ask the Crown Prince if the screams sounded girlish, if he smiles he watched.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#723
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Perhaps the 'stuff' in their travel bags is standard for a 'death squad stuff' rather than they are hard to find in Turkey. 'Death Squad Member' under 'occupation' might save a whole bunch of useless questions, especially when their answers are about your personal life.


Ask the Crown Prince if the screams sounded girlish, if he smiles he watched.

LOL.....as in a live feed during the whole "event"..??

The brutality is astounding though. Only a narcissistic psychopath could do something
that that......and then try to cover it up......while denying it. and only the most callous/ brutal would execute such a horrific assassination.
what is also concerning is that this psychopath sits on a lot of power, resources and wealth....
 
MHz
#724
Probably on big screen rather than like Hillary and the crew all getting sore necks from watching the same laptop screen.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#725
[B] Saudis Move to Counter U.S. Oil Strategy
Riyadh wants to cut the world’s oil supply after U.S. government deals allowed Iranian oil to flow onto world markets, driving down prices

http://www.feedspot.com/?dadi=1#feed...31151982930179
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#726
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

[B] Saudis Move to Counter U.S. Oil Strategy
Riyadh wants to cut the world’s oil supply after U.S. government deals allowed Iranian oil to flow onto world markets, driving down prices
http://www.feedspot.com/?dadi=1#feed...31151982930179

Great news for Canada! Saudis turn off the tap! Alberta gets a raise!
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#727
Donald Trump says he will not listen to 'vicious' Jamal Khashoggi killing tape

https://news.sky.com/story/donald-tr...-tape-11557381


Now, THAT is interesting..
 
Hoid
#728
President Bone Spurs strikes again
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#729
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

President Bone Spurs strikes again

It seems that the Russians own one half of Trump and the Saudis have markers on the other half.
 
MHz
#730
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Great news for Canada! Saudis turn off the tap! Alberta gets a raise!

It would be cheaper to move everybody west than try and melt a glacier. Hurry up and decide, 10,000 years is not that long.


This is what the average French thinks of another Tax for the banks.
https://sputniknews.com/europe/20181...el-ta-protest/
PARIS November 19 (Sputnik) - The French government will not reverse its decision to raise the tax on diesel and carbon fuels, despite massive protests across the country last weekend, French Prime Minister Edouard Philippe said.

On Sunday, French Interior Minister Cristophe Castaner said that over 400 people have suffered injuries in France in the protests against fuel prices hikes. The rioters, wearing high-visibility yellow vests, were blocking traffic. One woman was knocked down and killed in the southeastern Isere department during the demonstration, according to media reports.
“The carbon tax will be kept in place. We will stick to the line that we have set, ” Philippe told the France 2 broadcaster.
 
EagleSmack
+1
#731
Canada will get tough with Saudi Arabia ... eventually, maybe


http://nationalpost.com/opinion/kell...entually-maybe




Man, the Libs are cowards and racist.
 
MHz
#732
Sand against tundra, the end is clear even from here.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
-1
#733
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

It seems that the Russians own one half of Trump and the Saudis have markers on the other half.

Indeed. and probably for different reasons.
 
EagleSmack
#734
Libs are cowards.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#735
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

Canada will get tough with Saudi Arabia ... eventually, maybe
http://nationalpost.com/opinion/kell...entually-maybe
Man, the Libs are cowards and racist.

You really like the Saudis, don't you?

You realize that under Sharia law,you would be stoned to death by the Saudis.

*snicker*
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#736
Quote: Originally Posted by curious cdn View Post

you really like the saudis, don't you?

You realize that under sharia law,you would be stoned to death by the saudis.

*snicker*

** snicker **
 
EagleSmack
+1
#737
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

You really like the Saudis, don't you?

You realize that under Sharia law,you would be stoned to death by the Saudis.

*snicker*


The Saudis would never be able to impose Sharia Law here... but in Canada, I am not so sure. They way the Saudi Prince made your Prime Minister look when Justin tried to get tough. There was absolutely no fear of reprisals. I know that shocked you.



The Saudi Prince sure showed Justin what he and the world thinks of Canada under Trudeau's leadership.... WEAK .



Justin sure learned his lesson didn't he.


*snicker*
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
+1
#738
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

The Saudis would never be able to impose Sharia Law here... but in Canada, I am not so sure. They way the Saudi Prince made your Prime Minister look when Justin tried to get tough. There was absolutely no fear of reprisals. I know that shocked you.
The Saudi Prince sure showed Justin what he and the world thinks of Canada under Trudeau's leadership.... WEAK .
Justin sure learned his lesson didn't he.
*snicker*

The Saudis own your sorry asses, Yank.

*snicker*
 
MHz
#739
What makes you think the KSA isn't as owned as the US and Israel?
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#740
Freeland will show Trump and the Prince who's the Boss

Canada to push Saudi Arabia at G20 summit

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OTTAWA - Canada will use the upcoming G20 summit to push for answers in the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi in the Saudi Arabian consulate in Istanbul, Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland says.
Freeland said Tuesday Canada considers his murder to be very much an open case, a contrast to a statement by U.S. President Donald Trump that the facts surrounding Khashoggi's death might just never be known.
"Canada very much does not consider the Khashoggi affair to be closed," Freeland said, hours after Trump released a statement that attempted to bring the controversy to a close for the U.S.
Freeland said she expects the Khashoggi case to be an issue during the talks among leaders of the world's 20 top economies in early December in Argentina, and says Canada will persist with its push for a transparent international investigation.
"It is very clearly Canada's position that those responsible for this horrendous murder must face full responsibility for it," she said.
"We certainly imagine that the Khashoggi murder will be an issue, which we discuss with many of the partners who we will be meeting with."
The kingdom is a member of the G20, and the Saudi-owned television station Al-Arabiya says Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the country's de facto leader, will attend the summit.
U.S. intelligence officials have concluded that bin Salman ordered the Oct. 2 killing of Khashoggi inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, Turkey.
"Our intelligence agencies continue to assess all information, but it could very well be that the Crown Prince had knowledge of this tragic event — maybe he did and maybe he didn't!" Trump said in a written statement.
"That being said, we may never know all of the facts surrounding the murder of Mr. Jamal Khashoggi."
Regardless, Saudi Arabia remains a "steadfast" partner of the U.S. and has helped keep oil prices stable, Trump said. He also said he doesn't want to jeopardize US$450 billion in Saudi investment in the U.S., including $110 billion to buy American-made military hardware.
Trump said the U.S. has already sanctioned 17 Saudi individuals under its Magnitsky Act, and isn't planning any further action.
Freeland, meanwhile, has said Canada is contemplating similar sanctions, but she gave no indication why that has yet to happen or what is taking so long.
A senior government official, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the deliberations, said any decision on sanctions will be made by federal cabinet, and will be part of a larger process that will see Canada working in co-ordination with its allies.
The process includes a consideration of sanctions, a co-ordinated push for an international investigation and an assessment of the Turkish recording of Khashoggi's death, the official said.
Freeland has not heard the recording, but has been briefed on its contents by the head of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, who travelled to Turkey to hear it, said the official.

 
EagleSmack
+1
#741
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

The Saudis own your sorry asses, Yank.

*snicker*


In your dreams. The Saudis put Trudeau right in his place and showed him that he doesn't have the muscle to push anyone around. From coast to coast Canadians were screaming for Justin to unscrew what he did. It was a panic. Trudeau buckled quick.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#742
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

In your dreams. The Saudis put Trudeau right in his place and showed him that he doesn't have the muscle to push anyone around. From coast to coast Canadians were screaming for Justin to unscrew what he did. It was a panic. Trudeau buckled quick.

It was a panic?

It was a DELUGE!!!!!
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#743

After Khashoggi's killing, Trump sent a clear signal: With enough money, you can get away with murder, The Post's publisher writes


In a statement this week, President Trump whitewashed the Saudi government��s brutal murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi and proclaimed that his commercial relationship with Saudi Arabia was too important to risk.

Throughout this crisis, the president has maintained that he��s looking after our ��national interests.�� But Trump��s response doesn��t advance America��s interests; it places the dollar values of commercial deals above the long-cherished American values of respecting liberty and human rights. And Trump has determined that the United States no longer requires honesty and shared values from its global partners.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ational&wpmk=1


Indeed..stating the obvious.
 
MHz
#744
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

In your dreams. The Saudis put Trudeau right in his place and showed him that he doesn't have the muscle to push anyone around. From coast to coast Canadians were screaming for Justin to unscrew what he did. It was a panic. Trudeau buckled quick.

Seems to be a pattern, buy weapons from us and you can kill your own or others and the weapons will keep coming. Our high moral standards allow us to do that and have a clear conscience at the end of the event.

Sometimes progress is in the wrong direction and of you don't back-track it will get worse, a lot worse and then the same changes are implemented. At least we don't make them put that part into the news reports on how good the bombs work like is done with the US and Israel.
 
MHz
#745
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

Indeed..stating the obvious.

You not find a 2nd recording being found to not proof the murder never happened??
The message was to 'reporters' that they will be disappeared if they 'reveal what should remain hidden'.
 
Hoid
#746
Trudeau should just scuttle the arms deal and take the criticism.

I think Canadians would be okay with eating the costs.
 
MHz
#747
Like NATO would support us over the KSA. This is good in that it shows Canadians just what position we have on the world stage, very bottom of the pile, any smart people move away as soon as they can. That should speak volumes about what the future of the place will be. New Orleans of the north.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#748
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Like NATO would support us over the KSA. This is good in that it shows Canadians just what position we have on the world stage, very bottom of the pile, any smart people move away as soon as they can. That should speak volumes about what the future of the place will be. New Orleans of the north.

So what would you suggest CDA do in order to elevate its position in your eyes??
 
MHz
#749
We are as high in NATO as we will ever be going. We can take our marching orders from the Queen or DC. We won't be breaking tanks either unless you want to see us become 'Cuba II'. Couple of major crop failures or sudden lack of spare parts would see us become 'Venezuela III'.

Don't expect the KSA to be coming to our rescue either.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
-1
#750
She asked what you would do Mhz, but I guess you answered it alright the best you could by not understanding the question and just went on to blather about NATO

HEY did you or Torchlight or Selfsame participate in this auction

Child bride auction in South Sudan goes viral , sparks anger

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Juba, South Sudan - Five hundred cows, two luxury cars, $10,000, two bikes, a boat and a few cellphones made up the final price in a heated bidding war for a child bride in South Sudan that went viral after the auction was pointed out on Facebook. It is the largest dowry ever paid in the civil war-torn country, the government said.

The highest bidder was a man three times the 17-year-old's age. At least four other men in Eastern Lakes state competed, said Philips Anyang Ngong, a human rights lawyer who tried to stop the bidding last month. Among the bidders was the state's deputy governor.
"She has been reduced to a mere commodity," Ngong told The Associated Press, calling it "the biggest test of child abuse, trafficking and auctioning of a human being." Everyone involved should be held accountable, he said.
Earlier this month, Nyalong became the man's ninth wife. Photos posted on Facebook show her sitting beside the groom, wearing a lavish dress and staring despondently at the floor. The AP is using only her first name to protect her identity. The groom did not respond to requests for comment.
South Sudan has a deeply rooted cultural practice of paying dowries for brides, usually in the form of cows. It also has a long history of child marriage. Even though that practice is now illegal, 40 per cent of girls still marry before age 18, according to the United Nations Population Fund. The practice "threatens girls' lives" and limits prospects for their future, said Dr. Mary Otieno, the agency's country representative.
The bidding war has caused local and international outrage. It took several days for Facebook to remove the post that first pointed out the auction, and after it was taken down other posts "glorifying" the situation remained, George Otim, country director for Plan International South Sudan, told the AP.
"This barbaric use of technology is reminiscent of latter-day slave markets. That a girl could be sold for marriage on the world's biggest social networking site in this day and age is beyond belief," he said. The auction was discussed, not carried out, on the site.
While South Sudan's government condemns the practice of child marriage it says it can't regulate communities' cultural norms, especially in remote areas.
"You can't call it bidding as if it was an auction. It's not bidding. If you see it with European eyes you'll call it an auction," government spokesman Ateny Wek Ateny told the AP. "You have to see it with an African eye, as it's a tradition that goes back thousands of years. There's no word for it in English."
Some local lawmakers and activists disagree. In a statement released this week, the National Alliance for Women Lawyers in South Sudan called upon officials to comply with the government's plan to end child marriage by 2030. Ending the practice includes putting a stop to the auctioning of girls.
South Sudan's anti-human trafficking chief called the case reminiscent of others he has seen across the country, in which girls are forced or tricked into marriage after being told they are going to live with relatives and go to school instead.
"It is clear that some human trafficking practices are hidden in our culture," John Mading said.
In other cases, some girls who grow up in the South Sudanese diaspora are brought back to the country and forced to marry. The AP spoke with several people who know girls who arrived for what they thought was a vacation, only to have their passports taken away and forced into marriage by their families.
"Some families want children to marry in their countries and in their ethnic communities, but most do it if the kids are misbehaving," said Esther Ikere Eluzai, undersecretary for South Sudan's ministry of gender.

I thought you said there is no slavery in the faith of Islam?