Canada's Federal Election Polls


Liberalman
Free Thinker
#61
April 10

The numbers in parentheses denote the change from the three day rolling average
of the Nanos Nightly Tracking ending on April 10th (n=1,200; committed voters
only n=982). *Undecided represents respondents who are not committed voters
(n=1,200).

Canada (n=990 committed voters)
Conservative 39.7% (-1.5)

Liberal 31.2% (+0.8
NDP 16.8% (+1.6)
Bloc Quebecois 7.8% (NC)

Green 4.0% (-0.6)

*Undecided 17.5% (-0.6)
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#62
Quote: Originally Posted by Liberalman View Post

April 10

The numbers in parentheses denote the change from the three day rolling average
of the Nanos Nightly Tracking ending on April 10th (n=1,200; committed voters
only n=982). *Undecided represents respondents who are not committed voters
(n=1,200).

Canada (n=990 committed voters)
Conservative 39.7% (-1.5)

Liberal 31.2% (+0.8
NDP 16.8% (+1.6)
Bloc Quebecois 7.8% (NC)

Green 4.0% (-0.6)

*Undecided 17.5% (-0.6)

There's only one poll that counts and that is on May 2.
 
TenPenny
#63
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

There's only one poll that counts and that is on May 2.

Other famous CC quotes:

There's only one Pole that counts, and that is YukonJack.

There's only one Count in the polls, and that is Ignatieff.
 
mentalfloss
#64
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny View Post

Other famous CC quotes:

There's only one Pole that counts, and that is YukonJack.

There's only one Count in the polls, and that is Ignatieff.

There's only one **** on the pole and that is...
 
YukonJack
Conservative
#65
[QUOTE=TenPenny;1408299]Other famous CC quotes:

There's only one Pole that counts, and that is YukonJack./QUOTE]

Another famous CC quote:

Today ten penny isn't worth a plugged nickel.
 
Liberalman
Free Thinker
#66
April 11

The numbers in parentheses denote the change from the three day rolling average
of the Nanos Nightly Tracking ending on April 11th (n=1,200; committed voters
only n=990). *Undecided represents respondents who are not committed voters
(n=1,200).

Canada (n=989 committed voters)
Conservative 39.9% (+0.2)

Liberal 30.4% (-0.8
NDP 16.3% (-0.5)
Bloc Quebecois 9.1% (+1.3)

Green 3.8% (-0.2)

*Undecided 17.7% (+0.2)
 
TenPenny
#67
[QUOTE=YukonJack;1408875]
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny View Post

Other famous CC quotes:

There's only one Pole that counts, and that is YukonJack./QUOTE]

Another famous CC quote:

Today ten penny isn't worth a plugged nickel.

Why would you respond to that with an insult.
 
YukonJack
Conservative
#68
[QUOTE=TenPenny;1408893]
Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJack View Post


Why would you respond to that with an insult.

Not an insult at all. You posted a pun, which might have been clever, if I were Polish, which I am not. I also posted a pun, which - with inflation and such - might just be true.
 
Liberalman
Free Thinker
#69
April 12

The numbers in parentheses denote the change from the three day rolling average
of the Nanos Nightly Tracking ending on April 12th (n=1,200; committed voters
only n=989). *Undecided represents respondents who are not committed voters
(n=1,201).

Canada (n=1019 committed voters)
Conservative 38.9%
(-1.0)
Liberal 31.1% (+0.7)
NDP 18.3% (+2.0)
Bloc Quebecois 7.5%
(-1.6)
Green 3.1% (-0.7)

*Undecided 15.2% (-2.5)
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#70
Quote: Originally Posted by Liberalman View Post

April 12

The numbers in parentheses denote the change from the three day rolling average
of the Nanos Nightly Tracking ending on April 12th (n=1,200; committed voters
only n=989). *Undecided represents respondents who are not committed voters
(n=1,201).

Canada (n=1019 committed voters)
Conservative 38.9%
(-1.0)
Liberal 31.1% (+0.7)
NDP 18.3% (+2.0)
Bloc Quebecois 7.5%
(-1.6)
Green 3.1% (-0.7)

*Undecided 15.2% (-2.5)

I'm not quite sure what the point of all these stats are- Conservatives appear to be holding fairly steady at between 38 and 41% and I'll bet it will be close to that on election day.
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#71
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

I'm not quite sure what the point of all these stats are- Conservatives appear to be holding fairly steady at between 38 and 41% and I'll bet it will be close to that on election day.

How do we get the undecided to swing in any direction but conservative and how do we get those who don't plan to vote, to vote? The young, especially after the G8/G20 fiasco, think that governments are just plain phuqued and feel their input will be ignored just like their parents voices are.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#72
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

How do we get the undecided to swing in any direction but conservative and how do we get those who don't plan to vote, to vote? The young, especially after the G8/G20 fiasco, think that governments are just plain phuqued and feel their input will be ignored just like their parents voices are.

Is there any point in getting uninformed, disinterested people to vote?
 
wulfie68
No Party Affiliation
#73
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Is there any point in getting uninformed, disinterested people to vote?

You're framing the issue the wrong way. It should be more along the lines of how do we inform and interest people in their gov't and how it operates. The actions the gov't takes affect us all, thus we all have a stake in what goes on, and people need to be aware of that. I'm not saying they need to be socialist-anarchists like Cliffy or libertarians like Colpy, but they need to become aware of the issues, how they are affected and to vote for the policies that reflect their wishes. I also don't believe the extremists (i.e. those who want to claim Harper is a Nazi or any more dictatorial than his predecessors and their opposite numbers) help this but instead fill moderates with distaste at their extremism.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+1
#74
Quote: Originally Posted by wulfie68 View Post

You're framing the issue the wrong way. It should be more along the lines of how do we inform and interest people in their gov't and how it operates. The actions the gov't takes affect us all, thus we all have a stake in what goes on, and people need to be aware of that. I'm not saying they need to be socialist-anarchists like Cliffy or libertarians like Colpy, but they need to become aware of the issues, how they are affected and to vote for the policies that reflect their wishes. I also don't believe the extremists (i.e. those who want to claim Harper is a Nazi or any more dictatorial than his predecessors and their opposite numbers) help this but instead fill moderates with distaste at their extremism.

I hear you Wulfie- possibly the media is partly responsible for the disinterest. About 95% of what they report involves some sort of sleaziness or thuggery, so whenever new news happens, the first question many have at the get go is "What now"? When there is contraversy in politics most of them act like a bunch of kids. There have been a few solid politicians in the past but damn few- John Diefenbaker, Tommy Douglas, Stanley Knowles, W.A.C. Bennett, Joe Clark, Gordon Gibsons Sr. and Jr. - but we haven't seen many of this stature for awhile. When one or two immerge then interest will pick up.
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
+1
#75
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

How do we get the undecided to swing in any direction but conservative ...

By giving them a reason to vote for another party. Generally speaking, the other parties have done a horrible job of this. Consequently, the other parties and their supporters have chosen to attack the Conservatives instead. That is also failing miserably as it usually does.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#76
Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

By giving them a reason to vote for another party. Generally speaking, the other parties have done a horrible job of this. Consequently, the other parties and their supporters have chosen to attack the Conservatives instead. That is also failing miserably as it usually does.

Yep, if they spent as much time fine tuning their platforms as they do mud slinging, we might have something worthwhile to vote for.
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#77
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Yep, if they spent as much time fine tuning their platforms as they do mud slinging, we might have something worthwhile to vote for.

I was embarrassed for Jack during the debate. Is it any wonder the Dippers have no hope of expanding their base when that is what they rely on.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#78
And yet I've seen some news reports depicting Jack to be the most favourable.
 
petros
#79
They'll have a new leader shortly after the coalition gov is formed.
 
Omicron
#80
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

And yet I've seen some news reports depicting Jack to be the most favourable.

Well, there's two aspects to government.

There's the flashy stuff that gets all the press, but that only constitutes about 3% of what cabinet does.

Then there's the 97% of being government, which is an incredibly tedious grind of doing dull day-to-day management and administration of piles of super-boring paper work.

That's what keeps hamstringing the hot-headed elements of groups like Hamas. They fight for control of Gaza, and when they get it, they choke into a state of catatonic stupor when they find out just how boring most of being a government really is.

Jack's high rating is based on how he's got the most experience with, and seems to have the highest tolerance for, doing the boring day-to-day grind aspect of government, which is the part of government that most citizens find themselves dealing with most of the time.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#81
Quote: Originally Posted by Omicron View Post

Well, there's two aspects to government.

There's the flashy stuff that gets all the press, but that only constitutes about 3% of what cabinet does.

Then there's the 97% of being government, which is an incredibly tedious grind of doing dull day-to-day management and administration of piles of super-boring paper work.

That's what keeps hamstringing the hot-headed elements of groups like Hamas. They fight for control of Gaza, and when they get it, they choke into a state of catatonic stupor when they find out just how boring most of being a government really is.

Jack's high rating is based on how he's got the most experience with, and seems to have the highest tolerance for, doing the boring day-to-day grind aspect of government, which is the part of government that most citizens find themselves dealing with most of the time.

I can buy that, I suppose. There's many dimensions to politics.
 
Omicron
#82
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Is there any point in getting uninformed, disinterested people to vote?

I was listening to a poll focused on voters too apathetic to vote, and they found the number one cause was belief by the apathetics that their vote would not count.

The irony was, the majority of the apathetics said they'd vote Green if they thought it would make a difference, such that when the numbers were tallied, it turns out they'd probably get about as many seats in parliament as the NDP if they'd all turn out.

This implies that parties like Reformacon would *not* want to see something similar to the Australian system, where people must vote or they get a $15 fine.
 
petros
+1
#83
Then the Greens should be running around in a bus sized Prius picking people up and taking them to the polling stations.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#84
Quote: Originally Posted by Omicron View Post

I was listening to a poll focused on voters too apathetic to vote, and they found the number one cause was belief by the apathetics that their vote would not count.

The irony was, the majority of the apathetics said they'd vote Green if they thought it would make a difference, such that when the numbers were tallied, it turns out they'd probably get about as many seats in parliament as the NDP if they'd all turn out.

This implies that parties like Reformacon would *not* want to see something similar to the Australian system, where people must vote or they get a $15 fine.

That makes sense to me. Obviously many of these people have contempt for the mainstream parties............but I don't think that would solves most of the problems. From what I can gather "Green" has one main focus, but what would be the use of being Green while we are starving to death. What would be Green's influence on the International scene? How would Green deal with the contraversy with the military?
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#85
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

That makes sense to me. Obviously many of these people have contempt for the mainstream parties............but I don't think that would solves most of the problems. From what I can gather "Green" has one main focus, but what would be the use of being Green while we are starving to death. What would be Green's influence on the International scene? How would Green deal with the contraversy with the military?

Perhaps you should read their platform. It is pretty comprehensive on all fronts. The Greens have moved a lot closer to the centre than most people realize because the press ignores them.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+1
#86
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Perhaps you should read their platform. It is pretty comprehensive on all fronts. The Greens have moved a lot closer to the centre than most people realize because the press ignores them.

I just looked over their 12 page platform and agree with it (what sane person wouldn't) A lot of it is good stuff, finding new energy sources, recycling etc. But there are flaws too, organic farming is excellent for the home vegetable patch, but it's been reported over and over by reputable scientists that it won't work as far as feeding the world is concerned. They allude to generating "green jobs", but no mention of how they are going to do this. We can replant forests and work at killing the Mountain Pine Beetle but they're moot points if there is no market for our wood. Several items in their platform coincide with the
Conservative philosophy. Freight trains, going the way of the Dodo bird because customers want faster delivery. Good ideas for sure Cliff, but the plan needs a lot of fine tuning before they qualify to be Gov't. Hope I'm not p*ssing on your day.
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#87
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

I just looked over their 12 page platform and agree with it (what sane person wouldn't) A lot of it is good stuff, finding new energy sources, recycling etc. But there are flaws too, organic farming is excellent for the home vegetable patch, but it's been reported over and over by reputable scientists that it won't work as far as feeding the world is concerned. They allude to generating "green jobs", but no mention of how they are going to do this. We can replant forests and work at killing the Mountain Pine Beetle but they're moot points if there is no market for our wood. Several items in their platform coincide with the
Conservative philosophy. Freight trains, going the way of the Dodo bird because customers want faster delivery. Good ideas for sure Cliff, but the plan needs a lot of fine tuning before they qualify to be Gov't. Hope I'm not p*ssing on your day.

Not at all. I don't see them forming a government, but like the NDP, they could be a valuable asset to Canada as backup and instigators that influence government policy for the better. We need a dozen or so Greens to be in the governments face when it gets too far off track (kinda like the Cons are on environmental issues).
 
TenPenny
#88
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Is there any point in getting uninformed, disinterested people to vote?

You must be referring to the people in the House of Commons, are you?
 
Omicron
#89
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

That makes sense to me. Obviously many of these people have contempt for the mainstream parties............but I don't think that would solves most of the problems. From what I can gather "Green" has one main focus, but what would be the use of being Green while we are starving to death. What would be Green's influence on the International scene? How would Green deal with the contraversy with the military?

I know some people in the Green party, and actually you just touched on something that bugs them, which is that of being pegged as a single-issue party.

They're actually one of the most motley crews you'll have ever seen, but most of them fall into one of two major "planks" within their platform.

What they all have in common is the concept of "sustainability".

One major "plank" is focused on environmental sustainability; they hate the way we're driving over the cliff of global warming. The other is focused on economic sustainability; they hate financial bubbles like the one that plowed us into the recession we're still in.

It's funny to watch them in their meetings, because you'll have calico-and-lace clad earth-lovers sitting at a table with pin-striped spread-sheet readers, but they've come up with some cool ideas for how to make a profit out of returning the biosphere to stability.

You're thinking that they're about depriving people of jobs, which would lead to starvation because of no money to buy food, but they're seeing it as feeding people by putting those who lost manufacturing jobs to China to work growing organic food - which is more labor intensive than industrial farming.

In terms of defense, they're not the peaceniks you think... not all of them. You'd be surprised how many of them are very strait-forward about things like using the nuclear-shield protecting north America as defense of organic farmlands against the ravages of a starving planet, or how many of them think tactical strikes should be done against major carbon emitters in foreign nations.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#90
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny View Post

You must be referring to the people in the House of Commons, are you?

Good one, TP- I fully agree but you thought of it first.
 

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