Trump World -USA-2019


Walter
#3811
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Fake meme.
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
-1
#3812
Wally loves blithering idiots.
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
+2
#3813
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Nothing wrong with werking as much as you need to to make ends meet.




So you're okay with people working to exhaustion, putting pressure on an already strained medical system and employment system, and assistance system when they suddenly burn out and can't work?


Cause for some, that's what things are like. You can't work enough to cover the ends what so ever.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+2
#3814
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

So you're okay with people working to exhaustion, putting pressure on an already strained medical system and employment system, and assistance system when they suddenly burn out and can't work?


Cause for some, that's what things are like. You can't work enough to cover the ends what so ever.

Are you slightly over exaggerating a situation? There are many reasons for a second job . Lots of people work a job for wages in the day , and contract work after hours, trying to get enough business to go it alone . Most firefighters I know work a second job of sorts with the four on four off schedule.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+2
#3815
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

So you're okay with people working to exhaustion, putting pressure on an already strained medical system and employment system, and assistance system when they suddenly burn out and can't work?


Cause for some, that's what things are like. You can't work enough to cover the ends what so ever.

Minimum wage is not meant to be a live style . If there are only minimum wage jobs available in your area maybe it is time to move . People have been migrating toward greener pastures since the dawn of time .
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#3816
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Minimum wage is not meant to be a live style . If there are only minimum wage jobs available in your area maybe it is time to move . People have been migrating toward greener pastures since the dawn of time .


You got that right!
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#3817
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

So you're okay with people working to exhaustion, putting pressure on an already strained medical system and employment system, and assistance system when they suddenly burn out and can't work?


Cause for some, that's what things are like. You can't work enough to cover the ends what so ever.


Maybe some of the problems start back in grade school. A lot of kids aren't taught the rudiments of planning and budgeting both of which are so important.
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
+3
#3818
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Maybe some of the problems start back in grade school. A lot of kids aren't taught the rudiments of planning and budgeting both of which are so important.


Or maybe it's because of other reasons, like lack of business, lack of industry, lack of advanced education, lack of a lot of things including a lack of business CEO's giving a crap that their employees barely exist on what they make because it'll cut into their profits?
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#3819
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

Or maybe it's because of other reasons, like lack of business, lack of industry, lack of advanced education, lack of a lot of things including a lack of business CEO's giving a crap that their employees barely exist on what they make because it'll cut into their profits?

No one is forced to work for unscrupulous employers .
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
+2
#3820






Disinformation in the age of Trump: 'Meet the Press' examines the search for truth in an era of 'alternative facts'






https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pre...l_nbn_20191229
 
AnnaEmber
No Party Affiliation
#3821
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Except that is not really true .

Baloney.
The numbers of families that have more than one breadwinner or one job has increased over the decades.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...hen-both-work/

Why? Mainly because their buying power isn't what it used to be. And commercialism and high education costs have helped that number of families rise. People can't afford families with 12 kids like they used to.
 
AnnaEmber
No Party Affiliation
#3822
Grow up.
 
AnnaEmber
No Party Affiliation
-1
#3823
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Nothing wrong with werking as much as you need to to make ends meet.

Exactly. But average wages haven't kept up with higher production and higher profits as buying power decreases.
 
AnnaEmber
No Party Affiliation
-1
#3824
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Are you slightly over exaggerating a situation? There are many reasons for a second job . Lots of people work a job for wages in the day , and contract work after hours, trying to get enough business to go it alone . Most firefighters I know work a second job of sorts with the four on four off schedule.

Biggest reason is to make enough for a decent living and save for a retirement. Haven't you ever wondered why most people can't afford huge families any more?
Whatcha gonna do for four days off? Unless you have several hobbies, you're going to get bored or else turn into a blob from watching tv a lot.
 
AnnaEmber
No Party Affiliation
#3825
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Minimum wage is not meant to be a live style . If there are only minimum wage jobs available in your area maybe it is time to move .

Or get more education so you can get a better job? What happens when you can't afford to move? Education is expensive. And maybe the real estate where one moves to costs more. etcetera
 
AnnaEmber
No Party Affiliation
#3826
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Maybe some of the problems start back in grade school. A lot of kids aren't taught the rudiments of planning and budgeting both of which are so important.

We always thought that was parents' responsibility and school was for learning what was needed for jobs and learning the technical aspects of jobs.
 
AnnaEmber
No Party Affiliation
#3827
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

No one is forced to work for unscrupulous employers .

Yeah, no-one is forced to work. Name me a business that isn't in it for profit. They are kind of far and few between, huh? And even those far-and-few-betweens are likely small- and medium-sized Mom and Pop businesses.
 
Walter
#3828
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Wally loves blithering idiots.

Rent free.
 
AnnaEmber
No Party Affiliation
+1 / -1
#3829
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post







Disinformation in the age of Trump: 'Meet the Press' examines the search for truth in an era of 'alternative facts'






https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pre...l_nbn_20191229

" 'if you want to propel your lie, just keep issuing falsehoods. The truth has one voice, but lies are infinite. You can continue to make more and more lies, which then wears out anybody trying to rebut them.' "
^ How Trump won the EC in 2016. His supporters actually thought his 'disinformation' was accurate and sincere. lmao He portrayed America as being full of crime and corruption so essentially it was a 'shithole country' and he was going to 'fix it'. In fact, he is simply a conman out for glory and more wealth and always has been and couldn't give two hoots about average people outside of needing their votes.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#3830
Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaEmber View Post

Biggest reason is to make enough for a decent living and save for a retirement. Haven't you ever wondered why most people can't afford huge families any more?
Whatcha gonna do for four days off? Unless you have several hobbies, you're going to get bored or else turn into a blob from watching tv a lot.

Exactly .
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#3831
Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaEmber View Post

Yeah, no-one is forced to work. Name me a business that isn't in it for profit. They are kind of far and few between, huh? And even those far-and-few-betweens are likely small- and medium-sized Mom and Pop businesses.

Come on I have travelled extensively through the Kootenays , It looks like a very prosperous area .Nice houses , cars in the driveways blocking their boats and trailers . Not many people appear hungry . Maybe looks are deceiving.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#3832
Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaEmber View Post

" 'if you want to propel your lie, just keep issuing falsehoods. The truth has one voice, but lies are infinite. You can continue to make more and more lies, which then wears out anybody trying to rebut them.' "
^ How Trump won the EC in 2016. His supporters actually thought his 'disinformation' was accurate and sincere. lmao He portrayed America as being full of crime and corruption so essentially it was a 'shithole country' and he was going to 'fix it'. In fact, he is simply a conman out for glory and more wealth and always has been and couldn't give two hoots about average people outside of needing their votes.

You obviously have not watched his campaign rallies .
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#3833
Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaEmber View Post

We always thought that was parents' responsibility and school was for learning what was needed for jobs and learning the technical aspects of jobs.


I know parents some in my own family who don't have a clue about planning or budgeting. How many people in their 40s and 50s borrow money to take a trip, flying to exotic places?
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
+2 / -1
#3834
Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaEmber View Post

" 'if you want to propel your lie, just keep issuing falsehoods. The truth has one voice, but lies are infinite. You can continue to make more and more lies, which then wears out anybody trying to rebut them.' "
^ How Trump won the EC in 2016. His supporters actually thought his 'disinformation' was accurate and sincere. lmao He portrayed America as being full of crime and corruption so essentially it was a 'shithole country' and he was going to 'fix it'. In fact, he is simply a conman out for glory and more wealth and always has been and couldn't give two hoots about average people outside of needing their votes.

Very well stated........captures the essence of the shallow , manipulating con man. Interesting that he loves power but can't handle it maturely or effectively.. as he is to much of a narcissist.
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
#3835
Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaEmber View Post

Or get more education so you can get a better job? What happens when you can't afford to move? Education is expensive. And maybe the real estate where one moves to costs more. etcetera


Some people should just stop going to the 'higher end' places and thinking that's how everyone lives.


Maybe take a drive near broken down towns, or neighborhoods and see how most of the rest of society lives.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+1
#3836
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

Some people should just stop going to the 'higher end' places and thinking that's how everyone lives.


Maybe take a drive near broken down towns, or neighborhoods and see how most of the rest of society lives.

Not much of that in these parts , downtown east side , but that poverty is mostly societies outcasts . Even the small dying towns in the interior have nice vehicles in the driveway .
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#3837
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Not much of that in these parts , downtown east side , but that poverty is mostly societies outcasts . Even the small dying towns in the interior have nice vehicles in the driveway .


The bottom 5-10% have problems for sure, but the rest of us are living fairly high on the hog and are probably in the top 10% of the world's population. You just have to stand by the check out till in the supermarkets and observe the shit that flows past the cash register. When you have complete aisles in the stores dedicated to chips, pop and candy and another half an aisle dedicated to cookies, that tells you something! (And it ain't starvation)
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
+1
#3838
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

The bottom 5-10% have problems for sure, but the rest of us are living fairly high on the hog and are probably in the top 10% of the world's population. You just have to stand by the check out till in the supermarkets and observe the shit that flows past the cash register. When you have complete aisles in the stores dedicated to chips, pop and candy and another half an aisle dedicated to cookies, that tells you something! (And it ain't starvation)


It says that horrible foods are cheaper than the foods that SHOULD be eaten more.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/cli...port-1.5383507


As pointed out to you before, eating healthy is expensive compared to buying crap food and living on that.


If I could spend what I needed at my local store to get the right foods every two weeks, it'd cost me $200 plus to do so. That's if I could do that. I don't. I try hard to keep my spending on food down to $150 or under because I can't afford more than that.


Thankfully I do have a vehicle that allows me to travel to get better deals.


Sadly, many in this town DON'T have that luxury.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#3839
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

It says that horrible foods are cheaper than the foods that SHOULD be eaten more.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/cli...port-1.5383507


As pointed out to you before, eating healthy is expensive compared to buying crap food and living on that.


If I could spend what I needed at my local store to get the right foods every two weeks, it'd cost me $200 plus to do so. That's if I could do that. I don't. I try hard to keep my spending on food down to $150 or under because I can't afford more than that.


Thankfully I do have a vehicle that allows me to travel to get better deals.


Sadly, many in this town DON'T have that luxury.


Pop and chips sure aren't any cheaper than nutritious food. Pop is just a very expensive way of buying sugar plus a little flavouring. I'd be interested in seeing the nutritional value of a large bottle of pop (1 litre) compared to two apples.
Last edited by JLM; Dec 29th, 2019 at 11:03 PM..
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
#3840
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Pop and chips sure aren't any cheaper than nutritious food. Pop is just a very expensive way of buying sugar plus a little flavouring.


Really?


Maybe where you live it's like that - here, not so much.


It depends on what you're looking for too.


Meat is hellishly expensive, even Pork and Chicken is up there unless you get 'sale' days which are few and far between.


Veg, the same.


See, around here, there's a captive market, so locally the grocers can put their price up because they have people who will buy it at whatever price. Those people are Students and locals plus seniors without cars to travel. And soon as there's an interest in something, the price surges.


Example - salmon trimmings used to be 2 and 3 dollars a tray package. Pretty damn cheap. Now? 5 and 6 because the Asian students started buying it to make their meals. So up in price it went.


Cans of tuna? Might go on sale at 1$ a can; mostly though it's three or more a can.


Even Kraft dinner is up near 2 bucks a box.


Milk? 4$ for a 2L.


Mr. Noodles - cheap, horrible Ramen? 65cents locally.

Eggs? 3$ a dozen.


Pop? 2 small bottles for 4 bucks.


Chips? small bag of them is 175ish but two big bags might be six bucks.


Energy drink? Bout same price as a pop.


Actual juice and not a drink? 3$ for the cheap brand.


Bread? 3$ or more.


Chocolate bar? 1$ each


Sugar cereals? On sale 3$; regular 6$


Oatmeal? 6$ and rarely on sale.


Fish? Forget fish at all. Even the 10$ bags aren't worth it anymore; they used to have six or more pieces in them, now they might have four or five.
 

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