Ford government admits they can't do what they promised


Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
+3
#391
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Another knee jerk reaction?

like bringing in the assault weapons ban they promised in their campaign platform.

That's a knee-jerk reaction to US violence. And an incorrect assumption of US violence as well. As well as an intentional misrepresenting what semi-automatic rifles are. Semi-auto does NOT equal military-style assault rifle no matter how stupid you are.


Meanwhile Groper is so out to lunch his ban insists that farmers and hunters don't use "military-style assault weapons". Which is interesting because the 3 most popular hunting rifles in Canada over the last several years have been semi-autos. The Norinco M14S or M305, the Norinco Type 97 and the Tavor TAR-21 which was available in Canada before it was available in the US. The so-called "assault weapons" ban is a knee-jerk reaction.


The best response I've heard to the semi-auto ban went like this: Anti-gun proponent- "If you need a semi-auto to hunt you must really suck at hunting." To which a pro-gun proponent responded, 'If you need to disarm a population in order to govern it, you must really suck at governing."



And Groper has amply proved he sucks at governing.
 
spilledthebeer
#392
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

950,000 kids out of school today as Ontario faces it's worst teachers strike since Harris.

Maybe the Prime Minister can step in and save the day.




OH POOR STUPID hemerHOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy Justin and his loser LIE-berals with their minority govt...................................


WILL BE OUT OF WORK and out of office..................................


LONG BEFORE there is peace in Ontari-owe between teacher HOGS and the general public!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hoid
#393
Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

That's a knee-jerk reaction to US violence.

That's a platform issue they have developed and campaigned on in public view and based on the beliefs of their voters.
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
+3
#394
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

That's a platform issue they have developed and campaigned on in public view and based on the beliefs of their voters.

You mean a whole 1/3 of Canadian voters. That's hardly overwhelming support. And look where the bulk of the votes were; Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver.


And again, if you have to disarm a population in order to govern it, you must really suck at governing. Trudeau took a majority govt and turned it into a minority govt. The gun ban will make no noticeable difference in the homicide by firearm rate since semi-auto rifles are RARELY used to shoot people in Canada. We already have a hand gun ban in Canada, doesn't really seem to be doing f*ck all in places like Toronto now, does it.


Here's the national stats.

2014- 155 homicides by firearm; 103 were handguns and 34 were long guns* (189 stabbing deaths)



2015- 179 homicides by firearm; 102 were handguns and 37 were long guns (216 stabbing deaths)



2016- 223 Homicides by firearm; 130 were handguns and 50 were long guns. (175 stabbing deaths)



2017- 267 homicides by firearm; 145 were handguns and 65 were long guns. (203 stabbing deaths)



2018 -249 homicides by firearm; 143 were handguns and 56 were long guns. (183 stabbing deaths)



*Long gun denotes rifles and shotguns but does not differentiate between semi-auto and single shot. The posted numbers also don't include sawed-off long guns, which are already illegal. I also added stabbing deaths as a comparison. Note also how much homicide by firearm increased AFTER Groper was elected. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1...pid=3510006901



So if I'm to understand, it's the fewer than 65 per year that have Groper's and your panties all in a twist? Is that about right? Maybe the Liberals should just step down as the stats tend to show that gun crimes increase under Liberal govts.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+2
#395
LINK

Here's what's keeping the Ford government and unions apart


Quote:

The government wants to limit the wage increase to one per cent annually, while the union wants a wage hike that meets the inflation rate.
The government wants to change a rule that requires principals to choose from only the most senior teachers in the supply pool when hiring for long-term and permanent teaching jobs.
The union says the government's proposal for special education funding is less than half what was in its 2017 collective agreement.
The union wants enhancements to benefits. It's not clear how big an ask this is, but government officials hint that it's on the pricey side.
These gaps are not impossible for the two sides to bridge. But it's hard to conceive how it actually happens.

 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
+4
#396
Unions; "All we want is less to do, more time to do it in and more money for not getting it done".
 
Hoid
#397
In Canada public support for weapons bans is widespread and well-known.

It's ridiculous to argue that it isn't.

The NDP/Greens and Bloc are all just as pro ban as are the Liberals.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+2
#398
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

In Canada public support for weapons bans is widespread and well-known.

It's ridiculous to argue that it isn't.

The NDP/Greens and Bloc are all just as pro ban as are the Liberals.


I call "bull shit". Do you REALLY think everyone is stupid?
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
+2
#399
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

In Canada public support for weapons bans is widespread and well-known.
It's ridiculous to argue that it isn't.
The NDP/Greens and Bloc are all just as pro ban as are the Liberals.

Funny that hunters would be in favour of a gun ban. Maybe you just don't ask the right people how they feel about gun grabbers.
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
+2
#400
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

I call "bull shit". Do you REALLY think everyone is stupid?

He is so of course everyone else must be equally stupid.
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
+2
#401
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

In Canada public support for weapons bans is widespread and well-known.

It's ridiculous to argue that it isn't.

The NDP/Greens and Bloc are all just as pro ban as are the Liberals.

So they're just as stupid and gullible as you. Did you even bother looking at the stats I posted from StatsCan? The stats betray the lie that is the underlying reason for the gun grab. Fewer than 65 people per year are killed by someone with a semi-automatic rifle.
Groper wants to spend $250 million over 5 years to combat gang violence, of which hand guns play a major role. Yet he's willing to spend $600 million taking legally owned semi-automatic rifles from law-abiding citizens.


Unless you can come up with a much better reason than "me no like guns" to ban them, then the ban is senseless and pointless and driven entirely by ideology.


Smoking is the leading cause of preventable death in Canada. No ciggy ban though.


Accidents are the 5th most preventable cause of death in Canada, most of which are MVAs. An average of 1800 people die every year in MVAs but you leftard pussies are pissing your panties over fewer than 65 deaths a year.


I guess we should leave guns only in the hands of professionally trained, responsible people like the cop who shot and killed Sammy Yatim, or the Lieutenant-Colonial who had an accidental discharge boarding a plane. Or how about the 918 soldiers just between 2007-2009 that faced summary trial for negligent discharge of a firearm, the majority of which did NOT occur in a war zone. I owned firearms for over 25 years and never had an accidental discharge.



It's also interesting how the MSM plays the game as well. When a cop gets a rifle stolen from his car, the MSM calls it a semi-automatic rifle. But that exact same rifle in a private citizen's possession magically turns into a "military-style assault weapon".


You've been lied to bud. Look up the stats yourself. Google "homicide by type in Canada" and you can see them for yourself instead of listening to the lies of ideology. I already posted the link breaking down homicides by firearm type. I bet you didn't bother clicking it though. God forbid you read anything you know isn't going to confirm your bias.
 
spilledthebeer
#402
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Another knee jerk reaction?

like bringing in the assault weapons ban they promised in their campaign platform.






POOR hemerHOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HIS KNEES MUST BE GETTING SORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


with all those responses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And as the attached photo reveals ..........................


IMAGE IS EVERYTHING with LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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JLM
No Party Affiliation
+1
#403
Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

So they're just as stupid and gullible as you. Did you even bother looking at the stats I posted from StatsCan? The stats betray the lie that is the underlying reason for the gun grab. Fewer than 65 people per year are killed by someone with a semi-automatic rifle.
Groper wants to spend $250 million over 5 years to combat gang violence, of which hand guns play a major role. Yet he's willing to spend $600 million taking legally owned semi-automatic rifles from law-abiding citizens.


No use getting too upset over Hoidie! His field of expertise is limited!
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#404
Why are the unions taking a hardline over seniority?

Why teacher seniority in hiring is now a key factor in Ontario strikes
 
mentalfloss
#405
Those Ford numbers are taking a beating!
 
spilledthebeer
#406
Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

Unions; "All we want is less to do, more time to do it in and more money for not getting it done".




BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


YOU NAILED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Another way to say it is the teacher "HOGS want all the money and all the power AND NO RESPONSIBILITY for the results"!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Ontario teachers walkout comes down to who should control the school system



The unions’ desire to set the rules for hiring is part of a creeping takeover of management and government responsibility that began during the Liberal years

By Randall Denley, From National Post

Published February 6, 2020, 7:16 PM EST

Filed under: Full Comment

(With some comments of my own in brackets):

For months, Ontario’s elementary teaching union has said its unwillingness to sign a new contract is all about protecting children and public education. That argument deflated rather seriously when the union walked away from the latest round of bargaining, with its president complaining about the province’s plan to normalize how teachers are hired.

(Previously teacher HOGS went to war with Ford govt over the sex education curriculum - which many parents considered taught to much to kids who were too young - and which too strongly promoted “alternative lifestyles”!! As a parent I say that an 11 year old is too young to decide much about anal sex and that trans-gender issues are rather vague and unformed at that same age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(I suggest that kids who are in need of advice on such subjects as anal sex and oral sex at age 11 - ARE IN GREATER NEED of responsible parental supervision - which is difficult for many parents due to the relentless need to dig up gravy for LIE-beral govt and greedy HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Thworst of it is that teacher HOGS told us they would not have taken legal action if Ford had not ordered them to use the altered Ford curriculum - so again - WHO RUNS THE EDUCATION SYSTEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Of all the things the union could choose to cite as a deal breaker, this was probably the weakest. What union president Sam Hammond was defending is a bizarre 2012 provincial regulation that does nothing for students and acts as an impediment to hiring the most qualified teachers.

(Some Cdns will recall a phrase made popular some years back - “Passing the trash”!! Meaning BAD TEACHERS got passed on to other school boards!! This meant there was a certain amount of DECEPTION involved in giving the “Trash” good job reviews - and avoiding the reason for the layoff of the trash!! Such teachers SHOULD NOT be allowed to remain in the system simply because of union greed and seniority!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Those who don’t follow arcane education rules carefully might assume that new teachers would be hired on merit, perhaps with a nod to expanding diversity. Not in Ontario. In 2012, the Liberal government decided that hiring should be based on how long applicants had been waiting to get a job, not on principals’ judgment about who was best qualified. One union wanted this because of perceived nepotism. Now, it’s an entitlement.

(Merit is an OBSCENITY to any union since BASIC union philosophy dictates that ALL dues paying members ARE EQUAL!! Thus to single out one member for being inferior VIOLATES every value the union stands for!! It is this elephant in the room that is crippling ALL govt performance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

While the idea of seniority is common once people are hired, it’s difficult to think of any other workplace where it is used as a hiring tool. The Ford government wants to fix this mess, but Hammond and his union will have no part of it. It’s not the only remaining issue, but apparently it’s more important than getting children back into schools.

(In the private sector - seniority is equated with TALENT and ability demonstrated to the BOSS!! Our union HOGS turn that basic value on its ear as they DEMAND grand new gobs of gravy from the most indebted province in the world - even as Ontari-owe student test scores DROP STEADILY!! Teacher HOGS now demand MORE GRAVY FOR LESSER PERFORMANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The idea is offensive to the union because it re-introduces the idea of merit. For an old-school union like the one that represents the province’s elementary teachers, merit is a concept to be avoided at all cost. It’s all right for some teachers to get paid more than others, but only because of years of seniority or completion of courses that are said to upgrade their skills.

The idea that teachers would earn more than their colleagues simply because they are better teachers is abhorrent to the unions. That’s why it’s important to stamp out the cancer of merit at the earliest possible moment, the day of hiring, before it spreads through the whole system.

The unions’ desire to set the rules for hiring is just part of a creeping takeover of management and government responsibility that began during the Liberal years. Unions have also gained a measure of control over spending priorities and the way learning is delivered.

(TRUE DAT!! Under LIE-beral Wynne-bag - the education budget GREW FIFTY PERCENT FASTER than the health care budget - and yet THERE ARE LESS KIDS NOW IN OUR SCHOOLS while there are way more hospital patients!! Our teacher HOGS are so greedy - they are FORCING govt to ration health care!!!!!!!)

The union determination to control spending is evidenced in the other issue cited by the elementary teachers when they walked away from negotiations. They said the government is offering “less than half the priority and special education funding negotiated in 2017.”

That makes it sound like big special education cuts, but the money in question isn’t even part of the special education budget. That stands at $3.1 billion this year, up more than $90 million over the previous year. Rather, the issue is an attempt to restore a temporary sweetener the Liberals gave unions to help secure the last contract. They provided money for two years only and last year the amount was $230 million a year, to be used for special education, helping children at risk or adult education, according to boards’ priorities.

(Ah- ADULT EDUCATION- meaning money NOT SPENT on our kids - but instead lavished on illegals that many Cdns DO NOT want to come here!! Such spending is the usual LIE-beral back door approach to both HIDING and imposing policy that Cdns generally DO NOT WANT to pay for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The government is clearly willing to restore much of that money and has already committed $60 million to the two unions that have signed deals. There will be money in the ultimate elementary deal, too, but for now, the union is willing to close schools over a fraction of one per cent of overall education spending.

Not content to seek control over spending and hiring, unions also want a veto over how learning is delivered by rejecting the province’s proposal that two of 30 credits be delivered online. One would have thought that would be up to school boards or the education ministry.

(Unions wish to control every aspect of education - after all there is a chance that those who deliver online courses MAY NOT be part of the union and thus not be paying union DUES!! And of course numbers count - HOGS want the largest union presence possible during strikes and elections!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(In other news- Ford govt MUST start to micro-manage much of the school system in order to ensure HONEST USE of govt funding!! Ford govt is giving cash for the REPAIR of our ramshackle schools - and DOES NOT intend to stand by - as LIE-berals did - while repair cash was shunted over to the HOG GRAVY TRAIN while schools fell apart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Nor is Ford govt happy with the UNFUNDED EXTRA teacher assistants who infest the Toronto school system!! LIE-berals made allowance for a specific number of teacher assistants and one reason for TDSB fiscal problems is AN EXCESS of hired assistants as they try to booast flagging EQAO test scores!!!!!!!)

(Toronto school board is well aware of the huge BRIBES Wynne-bag LIE-berals gave to Toronto and Ford is reducing that grand gravy - so TDSB and Silly Hall allies are fighting tooth and nail to claw back every undeserved penny!!!!!!!!)

(In the most recent news - the number of bankruptcies in Canada approached RECORD LEVELS in 2019!! LIE-beral claims about our “booming economy” are DEMONSTRATED AS A LIE!! As if our RECORD DEBT LEVELS were not proof enough of LIE-beral deliberate fiscal blindness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Those who don’t follow arcane education rules carefully might assume that new teachers would be hired on merit. Not in Ontario

Sixty-thousand Ontario students already choose to take online courses and the number is going up by about 17 per cent a year. The provincial plan is for courses created by Ontario teachers and Ontario teachers will be able to assist students electronically. Some people are concerned about lack of internet access, but the government will have all secondary schools fully connected by September. Students who don’t have good access at home can do their work in school.

(In a WILD IRONY - George Brown College specifically ADVERTISES THE CONVENIENCE of online courses for those pressed for time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

If teaching unions don’t like something, they think it’s their job to prevent it. One can see the same kind of thinking in strike actions that eliminated teacher training for an improved math curriculum and disrupted standardized tests.

(Teachers are hugely short sighted - they are prepared to produce an ill - educated generation of kids as the HOGS fight for more gravy NOW - without considering the long term employment and tax revenue situation for future dead broke tax payers!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The unions say this labour dispute is about the kids. The government says it’s about money. Really, it comes down to who should control the school system, the people you elect or the people teachers elect?

Randall Denley is an Ottawa political commentator and former Ontario PC candidate.

(Teachers scorn the govt statement that their strike is about gravy - yet teachers are DEMANDING A HIGHER PAY RAISE THAN FORD IS OFFERING!! In addition - teacher HOGS DO NOT wish to discuss the massive hiring spree and smaller class sizes arranged by Wynne-bag LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Teacher HOGS are doing as any other Soviet Socialist Party would do - they are RE-WRITING HISTORY to suit themselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 
Hoid
#407
Ford has managed to parlay a number of problems and rotating strikes into a complete work stoppage scheduled for the 21st. Who knew a high school drop-out could unite 4 teachers unions.

Worst education problem since the last time the conservatives were running the show (into the ground)
 
spilledthebeer
#408
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Ford has managed to parlay a number of problems and rotating strikes into a complete work stoppage scheduled for the 21st. Who knew a high school drop-out could unite 4 teachers unions.

Worst education problem since the last time the conservatives were running the show (into the ground)




Oh dont you worry hemerHOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals Fake News really cannot cover up the rising tide of Cdn anger at union HOGS and other radicals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Here is an article that illustrates the TRUE level of interest teacher HOGS have in the welfare of our kids!! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Boy with stroke-like symptoms at school told to go home, Abbotsford mom says

By Jon Azpiri, Global News

Published September 26, 2019 10:22 pm

An Abbotsford mother wants answers from her son’s school about why her 11-year-old was sent home alone with what appeared to be stroke-like symptoms.

Amanda Broad says her son Caleb told his teacher at Abbotsford Middle School that his left arm and face were tingling just before the end of the school day on Monday.

She says the teacher remarked that Caleb was slurring and the left side of his face looked frozen.

(After all the tv commercials that govt has paid for - and some HOG does not recognize the signs of a kid in medical distress?? But its at the end of the day so no need for further responsibility for HER - like phoning a parent etc!! Just tell the kid to walk it off and she can go home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

When the teacher asked Caleb if he felt okay, the 11-year-old said yes. His teacher told him to go home and tell his mother.

“My son did not make it home,” Broad said. “He ended up calling me dazed, confused, very scared, shaken up and just like, ‘Mom I’m lost. I don’t know how I got here. I thought I was walking straight. What’s happening with me? What’s wrong with me?'”

READ MORE: B.C. dad issues warning after son, 8, ingests unknown substance at school

Broad eventually found him wandering quite a distance from school.

“Caleb was extremely pale,” she said. “His eyes were dilated. He didn’t have any memory of how he got to where he was, and he just kept saying, ‘Mom, I’m scared, I’m scared.'”

Caleb was rushed to Abbotsford Hospital, then transferred to BC Children’s Hospital in Vancouver. While it initially appeared he had suffered a stroke, Caleb has since been diagnosed with a hemiplegic migraine, which is rare in children.

(So he is sick and got shoved out the school door - with no warning to parents - because teacher HOGS are TOO BUSY - going HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Broad is relieved to have a diagnosis, but now she wants to know why the school didn’t call her.

“The protocol for a child in any kind of medical distress – even the smallest flu-like symptoms – a parent should be called and they are not allowed to leave the school,” she said.

“I think I deserved the decency and the respect for a phone call.”

(Yes - an obviously ill kid should get more attention than he did - but then HOGS sre much better at spouting costly platitudes than taking action !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Broad insists that she doesn’t want the teacher to suffer any repercussions from the incident. Instead, she wants to ensure that staff follow the proper protocols.

(The teacher is not a doctor and could not know what exactly was wrong but the symptoms the kid was exhibiting should have been a concern!! No doubt if the kid had become so ill at 11am - he would have been sent to the office and a phone call made to Mom - but it was at days end and the chance to dump responsibility was clearly too strong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

“You don’t want the teacher in trouble because this could have happened to anybody. We just want to make sure that the awareness is out there.”

In a statement to Global News, the Abbotsford School District said it is “actively working with our school administration to examine the situation to ensure that district policies for managing student emergencies and health incidents are properly followed.”

(Yes- HOGS have a fine set of sincere BUT MEANINGLESS platitudes for every occasion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Broad says Caleb is recovering and can’t wait to return to the classroom.

“He wants to go back to school,” Broad said. “He loves school.”

(Yes- and the teacher HOGS love having the little boy in their classes - AS A CASH COW TO BE MILKED - just like all the other kids who are being held to ransom by HOG UNIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

— With files from Jennifer Palma
 
Hoid
#409
Premier Doug Ford curiously silent on the railroad blockades in Ontario - or elsewhere.

The last conservative premier had indians shot for less.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+1
#410
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Premier Doug Ford curiously silent on the railroad blockades in Ontario - or elsewhere.

The last conservative premier had indians shot for less.


Please list two Indians who were shot by Ernie Eves.
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
+1
#411
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Ford has managed to parlay a number of problems and rotating strikes into a complete work stoppage scheduled for the 21st. Who knew a high school drop-out could unite 4 teachers unions.
Worst education problem since the last time the conservatives were running the show (into the ground)

The education problem is completely the fault of the teachers unions and their supporters. It is a battle over who runs things, the duly elected government or a self interest group.
 
Hoid
#412
This is why nobody wants you on their team.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#413
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

This is why nobody wants you on their team.


But they are just chomping at the bit to get YOU in their corner.
 
spilledthebeer
#414
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Premier Doug Ford curiously silent on the railroad blockades in Ontario - or elsewhere.

The last conservative premier had indians shot for less.




POOR STUPID HEMERHOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He thinks we have NOT NOTICED HOW DESPERATELY.......................


LIE-berals are trying to get FORD TO DO THE LIE-beral DIRTY WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Here is an article illustrating how desperate LIE-berals and their media allies are becoming as they frantically try to shift blame for the cost and consequences of the pipeline fiasco -that is the crappy capper to several decades of insanely irresponsible LIE-beral policy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Specifically some ASSHAT National Post reporter has just written an article blaming Doug Ford for the native blockades!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YES - according to the Asshat - all would be well if only Doug Ford would get the Ontari-owe Provincial Police to remove the Tyendinaga blockades!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes- never mind that the blockades are the result of FEDERAL ACTIONS TAKEN OUT WEST!! And never mind that Tyendinaga Reserve IS ADMINISTERED BY FEDERAL INDIAN AFFAIRS MINISTRY and thus it ought to be federal RCMP that clears the Tyendinaga blockades!! And never mind that Ford HAS NO AUTHORITY TO DEAL WITHE THE ISSUES IN BRITISH COLUMBIA THAT TRIGGERED THE NATION WIDE PROTESTS!!!!!!!!!!

In related news - the Asshat reporter suggests that OPP are lazy and failing in their duty to remove the blockades - and NEVER MIND that OPP is still working with the fallout from IPPERWASH - which taught OPP very well - that politicians delight in issuing orders - but those same so called leaders become the most craven of FOLLOWERS once it comes time to assign BLAME for the unhappy fallout of issuing those orders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OPP does NOT intend to be hung out to dry by craven coward LIE-berals as they were after Ipperwash - and Doug Ford does NOT INTEND to walk carelessly into a future where he is called to a court of inquiry to answer STUPID QUESTIONS about why he took it upon himself to resolve a FEDERAL ISSUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ipperwash was the result of federal LIE-beral Jean Chretien NOT RESPONDING TO LEGITIMATE NATIVE LAND CLAIMS!! During WW2 -the LIE-beral govt of Mackenzie King took over a native reserve near Ipperwash for a military training base- apparently because the terrain looked similar to where Cdns would eventually be fighting - and LIE-berals PROMISED TO GIVE THE LAND BACK -after the war - and of course FIFTY YEARS LATER - natives were still waiting - and such is the value of a LIE-beral PROMISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So as LIE-berals stone-walled - some bored and mostly unemployed natives decided to occupy the provincial park that was near the old base near Ipperwash - and the natives were likely PISSED at the Mike Harris govt anyway since he had recently LOWERED the welfare payments for ALL ontari-owe recipients and natives thus got LESS GOVT GRAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The park near Ipperwash was a very popular one and the native occupation got IMMEDIATE GOVT ATTENTION and a close guard of OPP constables!! The occupation dragged on for months - with occasional calls by Harris govt to LIE-beral prime minister Chretien and to the LIE-beral defense minister to honour the LIE-beral promises made by KING and the pleas were IGNORED- such is the value of a LIE-beral promise -even though the military base WAS NOT IN USE - LIE-berals refused to give it back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The local economy was suffering as thousands of tourists who usually came to the park EVERY SUMMER - stayed away because of the occupation and eventually Harris ordered the OPP to clear the park - and because the natives had openly and repeatedly displayed their guns and indicated they would fight if cops moved in -the OPP stationed snipers at various locations -native threats were taken seriously!

As OPP moved in under cover of darkness - and the natives awoke and milled about trying to decide how best to respond - several groups of armed protestors were tracked and an OPP sniper fired at one group - and protestor Dudley George was hit and killed - and later at trial it was claimed that he was unarmed - and OPP was accused of murdering the man - even though HE WAS in the midst of an armed group that HAD A HISTORY OF BEING WILLING to shoot at cops!!!!!!!

OPP was censured and punished by the LIE-beral govt that had been elected later in Ontari-owe and which promptly launched an inquiry and imposed LEGAL CHARGES on OPP for doing its job as ordered by our elected leaders!!!!!!!!!!!!

And now we have history REPEATING ITSELF!! Ford provincial govt is facing ANOTHER NATIVE BLOCKADE that is the usual result of LIE-beral blatant HYPOCRISY and short sighted policy that ends up having far reaching and nasty consequences!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The causes of the Tyendinaga blockade ARE FAIRLY LAID AT THE FEET OF FEDERAL LIE-berals!! The SOLUTIONS TO THE BLOCKADE are also in federal LIE-beral hands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ford HAS NO AUTHORITY to resolve the issues put forward by natives across the country!! And yet some ASSHAT REPORTER THINKS FORD should send in the OPP with guns blazing to HAUL LIE-beral political fat out of the fire!!!!!!!!!!

For Ford and for other provincial politicians - their part in this national LIE-beral social and economic FARCE IS CLEAR!! Provincial leaders ARE JUST LIKE ORDINARY CDNS - THEY ARE THE UNHAPPY AUDIENCE - forced against their will to watch several decades of LIE-beral social policy UNRAVEL - at considerable expense to the Cdn public!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All LIE-beral policy is FAILING - as the blockades and social unrest and rapidly mounting debts reveal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In the latest news - Our idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals are asking parliament for an EXTRA $2.1 BILLION DOLLARS to be given to natives for an array of social initiatives and the TIMING OF THIS REQUEST is suspicious -since LIE-berals are also in negotiations with natives to discuss HOW MUCH FEDERAL SUPPORT will be made later this year to SUBSIDIZE the shipping cost of food, building materials, vehicles and other heavy items into isolated native reserves!!!!

Yes- the same people who are blocking roads and railways because they despise oil and natural gas pipelines are also DEMANDING that govt SUBSIDIZE THEIR CARBON FOOT PRINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And the most truly insane result of LIE-beral policy is that “hereditary chiefs” from western tribes have hopped onto GAS GUZZLING JET AIR PLANES - and flown down to Tyendinaga to confer with their Mohawk brethern!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The old quote is PARTLY WRONG - thus the true quote ought to be “Those whom the Gods would destroy - are first made into LIE-berals”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In other news - there is now ample evidence that natives CANNOT BE NEGOTIATED WITH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Native political culture simply DOES NOT PERMIT OF PRODUCING A RESOLUTION TO THIS PIPELINE MESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Historical documents indicate clearly that white leaders found it very difficult to negotiate anything with natives as they DO NOT have a centralized sort of govt - thus each native reserves the right to be HIS OWN TRIBE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thus LIE-berals are trying to negotiate with a social entity that has a lot in common with The Gorgon of Greek legend- not only is her head full of nasty snakes- each head chopped off means TWO MORE GROW!!

LIE-berals HAVE AGREEMENTS with most bands and most ELECTED CHIEFS but LIE-berals have multiple heads popping up - the “hereditary chiefs” who are mostly self appointed “stewards of the land” and loudmouths claiming authority that other band members dispute - represent multiple new heads that LIE-berals cannot deal with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In addition the native Gorgon monster is growing NEW HEADS courtesy of militant others - many of whom are not even native!! To make matters more confusing - some natives who WANT those pipeline jobs - also DO NOT want to see Militant Mohawks getting shot by cops and thus although the pipelines are favoured -the same group does NOT want strong action taken to end the blockades and let them get on with the longed for jobs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Each govt action and each counter response produces new heads on the native Gorgon monster that was originally encouraged into life by Pierre Trudope and his Indian Affairs Minster Jean Chretien - who encouraged natives to DREAM BIG in hope that LIE-berals would shower natives with gravy in exchange for their votes!

LIE-berals paying any price to BUY native votes- and natives willing to BELIEVE LIE-beral pie-in-the-sky promises have led us here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To suggest that this mess is the fault of Doug Ford is to INSULT THE INTELLIGENCE OF ALL CDNS - INCLUDING NATIVE PROTESTORS!!!!!!!!
 
Hoid
#415
Still not much out of Doug Ford these days as he pretty much has hit the mattresses over the education fiasco.

Other than License Plategate

He did mention they intend to fix the problem with the new license plates in Ontario that are unreadable at night. A minor technical glitch.
 
spilledthebeer
#416
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Still not much out of Doug Ford these days as he pretty much has hit the mattresses over the education fiasco.

Other than License Plategate

He did mention they intend to fix the problem with the new license plates in Ontario that are unreadable at night. A minor technical glitch.






YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hard to see license plates ARE A MINOR TECHNICAL GLITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Compared to the various COSTLY WYNNE-BAG LIE-beral FIASCOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Such as the BAD ROAD ASPHALT that broke up after a few years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


Such as THE FAKE ASPHALT SAMPLES submitted to LIE-beral govt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Or the BAD BAD BRIDGE GIRDERS for spanning highway 401- THAT ALL HAD TO BE REPLACED......................


DUE TO FAULTY WELDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!


Or the LIE-beral highway bridge through Nipissing area that BUCKLED A FEW MONTHS AFTER COMPLETION................


that was built by a LIE-beral hired Spanish company WITH NO EXPERIENCE BUILDING IN A FROST ZONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Or the pedestrian bridge in Pickering that LIE-berals arranged to have built over highway 401.......................


so Go train passengers living north of the highway could access the Go station more easily................................


and LIE-berals HIRED A COMPANY WITH NO EXPERIENCE BUILDING BRIDGES..........................


and the IDIOTS BUILT THE BRIDGE UPSIDE DOWN.................................


and then Wynne-bag LIE-berals PAID THE IDIOTS TO ATTEMPT REPAIRS............................


which were also beyond the ability of the idiots..........................


so LIE-berals PAID OTHERS TO PROP UP THE MESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


Or we could discuss the Wynne-bag road snowplowing contracts..................................


with companies that LACKED the equipment to do the job in a timely way.......................



even under the RELAXED LIE-beral standards...............................


so LIE-berals BOUGHT the companies the equipment they needed to do the job - at OUR EXPENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


or we could discuss the gas plant fiasco............................................


that ONLY COST US ONE AND A HALF BILLION DOLLARS..........................


or the shameless Sudbury bribery SCANDAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Or the spectacle of Wynne-bag LIE-berals PAYING FOR THE MEALS AND HOTEL ROOMS...........................


needed by TEACHER HOGS as new contracts were "negotiated" between govt and HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Compared to all that LIE-beral CRAP..................................


some hard to see license plates.....................................


that will be replaced at the expense of the company that made them..............................


REALLY DOES LOOK RATHER TRIVIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


UNLESS YOU ARE A TRULY BIASED LIE-beral HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
 
harrylee
Free Thinker
#417
Hmmmmmmmmm.....

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/christ...SAma1d0lFPsNMv
 
Hoid
#418
Ford will triple Ontario electricity emissions by scrapping green initiatives and going with gas and a plan that cannot succeed.
https://www.nationalobserver.com/202...ns-triple-2030
meanwhile in California progress is being made.
https://electrek.co/2020/02/27/tesla...-pge-approved/

Tesla’s massive 1GWh Megapack battery project with PG&E is approved
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
#419
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

In Canada public support for weapons bans is widespread and well-known.

It's ridiculous to argue that it isn't.

The NDP/Greens and Bloc are all just as pro ban as are the Liberals.

I'm not arguing it isn't. I'm saying the LEFTARD argument for banning them is erroneous at best and an outright lie at worst.


Read the stats. Something the typical leftard won't do because they let their ideological masters do their thinking for them.
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
#420
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Ford will triple Ontario electricity emissions by scrapping green initiatives and going with gas and a plan that cannot succeed.
https://www.nationalobserver.com/202...ns-triple-2030
meanwhile in California progress is being made.
https://electrek.co/2020/02/27/tesla...-pge-approved/

Tesla’s massive 1GWh Megapack battery project with PG&E is approved

Yes, because nothing's better than seeing thousands of derelict windmills falling apart after their short life expectancy reaches their end. It's already a problem. Companies are NOT removing dead turbines because it'll cost them too much.




And the top linked article is 100% horseshit. Mating gas power to wind power actually increases emissions. Meanwhile Ontario has an installed capacity of 13,000MW of nuclear that will be increased to almost 14,500MW once Bruce NPP is upgraded. We also have 9,000MW of hydroelectric capacity. During the Liberal years in Ontario after they went with their idiotic windmills, nuclear and hydro were contracted to only provide 3% of their generation to meet provincial needs in any given month. Given the fact that the Liberal govt was constantly dumping excess hydro and paying Hydro Quebec to take it off our hands, it's pretty clear Ontario doesn't need stupid f*cking wind turbines to generate emissions-free power.


Mating gas plants to wind power is like driving a car in the city. The constant up and down/start and stop increases fuel usage and thus increases emissions generated. Mating gas plants to traditional power grids is like driving a car on the highway. More constant speed travel even at a higher speed than city driving, and yet better fuel economy and fewer emissions. Because the wind isn't a constant, gas plants have to constantly micro-manage for the vagaries of wind. This is exactly like constantly stepping on and off the accelerator in your car.


But Doug Ford is changing all that so clearly it has to be bad for Ontario because he's not some simpering little ALT-left pussy bowing down to the UN.