Quote: Originally Posted by pgs
What is more fun says the idiot. . Proof reading is your friend .
Electric cars will be sold ONLY so long as LIE-berals throw MASSIVE subsidies at businesses and at buyers! No subsidies means NO electric cars! Consider:
Here is a nice article illustrating ALL that is wrong with LIE-beral energy policy, along with some comments of my own in brackets):
General Motors Co. stands to lose as much as $9,000 on every Chevrolet Bolt that leaves a showroom once the all-electric subcompact starts rolling out. Sounds crazy, but the damage makes perfect business sense under the no pain, no gain policy driving the electric-vehicle boom in the U.S.
(Yes, its LIE-beral logic to TRY to force people to buy something they don’t want and which they cannot use as necessary because the piece of crap lacks the range or cargo carrying capacity necessary for Cdn living!)
California crafted the doctrine, with tough clean-air rules and a mandate that automakers sell some non-polluting vehicles if they want to do business in the Golden State. Nine others have adopted it, New York and New Jersey among them, and all told they make up close to 30 percent of the U.S. market. That goes a long way to explaining why zero-emissions models from more than 10 brands are on the roads, with more on the way. Most are destined to be loaded with red ink for their makers, but they’ll be great deals for consumers as companies unload them to meet their targets.
(Lets consider some of the things electric cars WON’T do: We have all seen gas cars towing trailers, all seen gas cars with bicycles strapped to roof or trunk, all seen cars with cargo carriers strapped to the roof-and WHO has done ANY REAL calculations regarding how far your electric car will go on one charge AFTER you screw up the aerodynamics and load it for a holiday? Then there are all those questions about how to car pool with something that WON’T hold a group of kids because there ain’t enough room for kids and sports gear etc? That translates into MORE cars on the roads. )
BC-GM-S-READY-TO-LOSE-9-000-A-POP-AND-CHASE-THE-ELECTRIC- CAR-BOOM© David Welch and John Lippert
While the Trump administration may dilute federal programs that take aim at carbon-dioxide spewing cars, California won’t be backing down, certainly not during Governor Jerry Brown’s term. The most populous state is such a powerhouse -- roughly one in eight new vehicles was registered there in the first half of the year -- that companies will keep spitting out electrics for the privilege of selling everything else in their lineups.
“California will continue to act as the ballast, as the center of gravity, for clean air and climate policies in the U.S.,” said Levi Tillemann, author of “The Great Race,” a book on the future of automobile technology. “Trump will thrust the state back into the role of clean-air crusader, and that’s a banner a lot of people in California don’t mind carrying.’’
(I say yes! Airplanes currently produce 75 percent of all pollution related to transportation-that means, trains, buses, ships, cars and trucks-whether hauling people or cargo. We can clear the air simply by discouraging people from flying so often and we do that by cutting back on civil service Hog gravy-NO NEED to screw up the lives of countless people over this electric car crap since the only people who will buy electric cars are the wealthy Hogs who have the shortest commute anyway! What Cdn would buy an electric car knowing that his commute was very close to the maximum range of an electric car and knowing that batteries become less efficient as they age? If your gas car runs out of fuel you can get a gas can to refuel easily-but if you get caught in a snow storm or road closure due to accident ahead and your battery dies then what? Other than to call a tow truck and wait while YOUR dead car blocks the road and screws up the commute for others in THEIR electric cars with wilting batteries-talk about a domino effect! Nobody is asking: what happens if you run the heater/defroster and headlights for a extra hour or two as often happens in Toronto on snow days?)
Where it’ll get interesting is over the next decade or so. The states’ rules are set to tighten so that zero-emission vehicles, or ZEVs, will have to rise to an estimated 15.4 percent of sales by 2025, some five times the current level.
(There is the BIG LIE-zero emission cars that actually have a substantial carbon foot print! LIE-berals are touting their green energy bullshit as a way to clean the air but its carbon crap they are producing-green energy actually has a HIGHER carbon footprint than natural gas fueled electric generation thanks to how unreliable green energy is-LIE-berals must keep natural gas plants fully fueled and ready to take over when green energy fails-the sun behind a cloud or a gust of wind fades. LIE-berals are trying to FORCE a ZEV market into existence so they can use green energy as a giant slush fund to reward their pals! It was NEVER about the environment-its ALL MONEY FOR HOGS!)
The hurdles may go higher: Brown, a Democrat with two years left in his term, signed a law ordering greenhouse-gas emissions be 40 percent below 1990 levels by 2030. To get there, ZEVs, plug-in hybrids or fuel-cell cars like Honda Motor Co.’s Clarity may have to comprise 40 percent of sales, up from about 3 percent now, according to California Air Resources Board staff projections.
(That`s nice-LIE-beral Dalton McGinty signed a law saying “NO MORE tax increases” and then hit us with the health levy-the biggest tax hit in Ontari-owe history! And it’s a levy that HOGS DON’T PAY-its in their govt contract!
Can that really happen? “The idea that automakers will sell 40 percent of their vehicles at a loss in California is ludicrous,” said Eric Noble, president of the CarLab, a consulting company in Orange, California, who reckons most electric cars lose at least $10,000 per sale.
(Somebody ought to warn these LIE-beral morons that Lithium batteries are highly flammable-crack the battery case in a car crash-or the battery case in your now recalled SAMSUNG PHONE-and the exposed contents burst into flames-with NO fire dept currently equipped or trained to deal with Lithium battery fires! Right now-Tesla Motors is experimenting with battery cases to find out how THIN and CHEAP and LIGHT can they be made without causing too many fire balls when cars crash-as they inevitably do! Anybody happy about buying the 21st century equivalent of a Ford PINTO?)
(Even worse-Lithium is HIGHLY toxic and it appears we are simply replacing oil pollution with the Lithium version-at HUGE COST!)
The industry’s willing to take the hit on a small scale now. Fiat Chrysler Automobiles NV’s battery-powered Fiat 500e is made for California alone, and Chief Executive Officer Sergio Marchionne said in 2014 that it was losing $14,000 per sale. The company’s pretty much giving it away, at a monthly lease-rate of as little as $69. Nissan Motor Co. has advertised lease deals for the Leaf at as low as $149.
Of course, the industry might figure out how to make ZEVs into money makers, once the charging-station infrastructure is built out and as battery costs fall. Global demand seems sure to rise, with major economies, including China, having recognized climate change as a threat and tailpipe-emissions from gas-powered autos as a chief contributor.
(Sadly, battery costs are NOT falling at this time. Lithium is a rare element and with increased demand comes increased cost. Add in the extravagant engineering needed to make an ultra light battery and ultra light car for maximum range and you have HIGHER COSTS! Think of a highway speed collision between a Smart Car and a pickup truck-any guesses on which driver will be safer? And which driver maimed or dead? The smaller and lighter the electric car-the better the range and the POORER the crash safety rating!)
The U.S. has a ZEV incentive of its own, offering a $7,500 tax credit to buyers, and also gives credits to manufacturers to reward them for cars that meet greenhouse-gas reduction targets set by the Obama administration.
The Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, the industry’s main trade group, has asked Trump to consider their state ZEV costs when evaluating the feasibility of rules set under President Barack Obama to boost average fuel economy standards by 2025. Over the next eight years, the electric-vehicle demands will impose costs of up to $40 billion on companies that they’ll pass on to customers, according to the group. The miles-per-gallon standard, which is 35.3 for 2016, will under the rules go to 50.8 -- a number the industry contends could make cars prohibitively expensive.
(Sadly, the current generation of Ford pickup trucks has FAILED to meet the 2016 fuel ratings-admittedly by a quite small margin-but a fail is a fail-Dodge DID meet the fuel requirements for its trucks but did so using 8 speed transmissions and this maximum use of many gears to keep engine revs low seems to be the way of the future. Too bad Ford hasn’t learned this yet!)
On Wednesday, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency took a formal step that makes it harder for Trump to undo the Obama targets. EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy announced a preliminary determination that Obama’s 2025 targets are achievable, affordable and appropriate. If she finalizes this decision before leaving office, she’ll force Trump into a formal and protracted rule-making process to revise the rules.
(Yeah, so what if the vehicles being produced won’t carry the cargo you want or haul the gear you need! Nor travel as far as you want without the risk of being stranded with a dead battery!)
(And Ontari-owe LIE-berals have just “partnered” with private sector-meaning HANDED OUT MORE SUBSIDIES-to encourage a few businesses to install car chargers on their property for their employees and customers. If electric cars were such a useful deal then WHY the need for so much govt legislation and MASSIVE SUBSIDY? As gas cars became more efficient, people willingly bought them. That electric cars require legislation and govt money to get even a few of them bought indicates how NOT READY the ZEV is!)