Canadians prefer Trump over trudeau


taxslave
Free Thinker
#571
Having two official languages is offensive.
 
bluebyrd35
No Party Affiliation
#572
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Well for a change you are partly right. The voters were intelligent enough not to let Clinton grab power.




I'm in favor of a Canada that doesn't include Quebec getting special status and syphoning the money out of the rest of the country.

hmmm,,,,,,,so you didn't compare both hers and Trump's accomplishments before the election. I also see it is mostly men who do not like the notion of a women who is not a sexy fluff head in charge but will accept a very nasty man as better alternative. As a Canadian I feel somewhat saddened by the attitude of some of our "men"
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
+2
#573
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

hmmm,,,,,,,so you didn't compare both hers and Trump's accomplishments before the election. I also see it is mostly men who do not like the notion of a women who is not a sexy fluff head in charge but will accept a very nasty man as better alternative. As a Canadian I feel somewhat saddened by the attitude of some of our "men"

Are you sure you really want to compare their accomplishments?
 
bluebyrd35
No Party Affiliation
#574
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Having two official languages is offensive.

LOL Of course you are not biased at all........Are you aware the US has no official language constitutionally but many states have declared second and in some three or four legal languages other than English.

As to comparing their accomplishments.....I already did a couple of posts above. So read & weep!
 
JLM
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#575
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

LOL Of course you are not biased at all........Are you aware the US has no official language constitutionally but many states have declared second and in some three or four legal languages other than English.

As to comparing their accomplishments.....I already did a couple of posts above. So read & weep!


I know New Mexico recognizes Spanish! What are the others?

Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

Geez I must have missed the borders between Que/Ont and Que/New Brunswick. So it offends you to have both official languages on your cereal box?


How much does it add to the price of a box of cereal? In B.C. we speak English!

Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

Oh I see......So you would trust no Judge, lawyer or even professors teaching the laws enacted by those you elected?? A blanket statement is not helpful.

Mowich: Well it seems that I remember things quite differently.

https://www.thebalance.com/hillary-c...hments-4101811

Now compare

Donald Trump's "Accomplishments " Before Becoming President .

Most of these I remember so I am leaving it up to you to find the sources of each event.

Mowich

"And what, you see that as a bad thing? "

I am not in favor of having a two part Canada....are you?

And anyone the Democrats choose would be head and shoulders better than what they now have as President.


Defense lawyers are the worst!


Those comparisons are pretty subjective! Best to stay away from them, especially Hillary fans!

Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Are you sure you really want to compare their accomplishments?


Careful taxslave...........................when she discovers the truth she could have a stroke.


At what point in Hillary's life did she employ 23,000 people?
 
bluebyrd35
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Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

LOL Of course you are not biased at all........Are you aware the US has no official language constitutionally but many states have declared second and in some three or four legal languages other than English.

As to comparing their accomplishments.....I already did a couple of posts above. So read & weep!

Language situation in the U.S. | About World Languages
 
Mowich
Conservative
#577
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

Mowich: Well it seems that I remember things quite differently.

https://www.thebalance.com/hillary-c...hments-4101811

I do not deny that the woman accomplished a lot during her political life, Blue. Accomplishments however say nothing about the true nature of the person. I give as an example the latest to fall from grace - Harvey Weinstein - he too accomplished much but the harm he did while doing so is now his undoing, just as it was for that Hilary creature.

Quote:

Mowich

"And what, you see that as a bad thing? "

I am not in favor of having a two part Canada....are you?

If such is the case they why would you write this? "Now the separatists will not even have enough to form a small party for the next election." For you see, if they don't have enough votes to form a small party, then what threat to they pose to furthering their goal of separation?

Quote:

And anyone the Democrats choose would be head and shoulders better than what they now have as President.

That remains to be seen, Blue especially considering how complicit many Democrats were in keeping Weinstein's secrets while gleefully accepting funds for their own campaigns. The Dems will wear that for awhile.
 
JLM
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#578
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

They could run that pig in Trump's place and his supporters wouldn't know the difference.


Could you do a better job than what Trump is doing?
 
Cannuck
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#579
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Could you do a better job than what Trump is doing?

Anybody could. Even a doddering old fool like you could.
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
#580
Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

Anybody could. Even a doddering old fool like you could.

Did the grant for the recycling depot fall through and leave you with no job?
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#581
You still a naturopathic/homeopathic wackjob?
 
spilledthebeer
#582
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post



Can you tell the difference?

SURE I can! Too bad LIE-berals are not so discerning!

Here is another article illustrating that Our idiot Boy Justin is apparently- at heart- a ROYAL BIGOT with substantial disdain for ordinary Cdns! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Trudeau says we’re disorganized — by blood

POSTMEDIA NETWORK. First posted: Monday, July 10, 2017 07:46 PM EDT | Updated: Monday, July 10, 2017 07:52 PM EDT

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau greets German Chancellor Angela Merkel during a bilateral meeting at the G20 summit Friday, July 7, 2017 in Hamburg, Germany. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Ryan Remiorz

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has done it again.

During a friendly interview with Germany’s second-largest newspaper, BILD, last week, Trudeau, in Hamburg for the G20 meeting, was asked by the popular tabloid: “Just very briefly, what is your view on Germany?”

Trudeau starts off well enough, describing Germans as “wonderful, thoughtful people” adding, “my stepfather was born in East Germany. I was raised to love German culture and German food – even the red cabbage. It’s something I feel a tremendous kinship to.”

OK, silly, but harmless.

But then Trudeau, unprompted, follows up with this gem. In a bid to compliment his German hosts, according to the transcript of the interview published by BILD, Trudeau says:

“You are perhaps a little more … I’m looking for the right word – predictable? No, you’re more organized, maybe, than Canadians can be. We’ve got enough French and Latin blood in us to be less organized.”

Um, beg your pardon, Prime Minister?

Canadians are less organized than Germans because of our “French and Latin blood?”

Isn’t that making exactly the kind of stereotypical and sweeping generalizations you’re always scolding Canadians about?

(Sure sounds “sweeping and generalized’ to me! And why is our Human Rights- but too often wrong gang not publicly correcting Our idiot Boy?)

Why does Trudeau seem to feel the need to put down Canadians — or some Canadians — when he’s complimenting someone else?

For example, when he told CTV in a Canada Day interview he was “jealous” of immigrants who chose Canada, as opposed to those born here whom he called, “Canadians by default.”

Warming to that theme, Trudeau mocked what he described as the intolerant minority of native-born Canadians who think of others, “Go back to your own country”, before virtue signalling his own tolerance by admonishing: “No. You immigrants chose this country. This is your country more than it is for others, because we take it for granted.”

(I suggest that is one thing- and racist at that, to tell people “go back to your country” simply because of the way they look. But IS it racist- or just common sense- to tell radical Muslims to go home because we are genuinely afraid they will stab us, blow us up or run us over? Is it bigotry to ask “ how much will it cost to deal with the tens of thousands of illegals flooding over our border - with so many of them lacking in education and language skills that they will require major govt aid for years or decades to come”? Our idiot Boy does Not bother with the fine print as he insults anybody who disagrees with him!)

Talk about turning the idea we’re all equal as Canadians, no matter if we were born here or came from somewhere else, on its head.

Then again, maybe that’s because of our “French and Latin blood” which makes us less organized in our thinking than Germans. Right, prime minister?

It almost sounds as if Trudeau has an inferiority complex about being Canadian. Either that, or his ideas on the subject are a mile wide and an inch deep. You decide.

(I suggest his views are all about following in his fathers vile footsteps. Pierre Trudope once publicly told reporters that if he became prime minister, he wanted to “take Canada from the past into the future via the route of radical socialism”! Trudope values are so vile that Pierre actually told people that the “war against Nazi Germany was British Imperialism”! Later he went on to praise Chinese leader Mao for “his genius in rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows” in his book “Two Innocents in Red China”! The Trudope clan- as their various writings and public statements are proven Not to be people who will offer a strong defense of capitalism or democracy-in fact they will offer the OPPOSITE and undermine it regularly!)

[QUOTE=bluebyrd35;2516489][QUOTE=Murphy;2516482]
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

When Harper announced that the retirement age was going to be 62 or 67 to receive the same amount of funds as those of 60 & 65 were receiving then, I know of at least 3 people who cheered upon hearing Trudeau cancelled that ruling. I am sure just a short question addressed to the government of Canada would bypass the need to research outside findings and you can even do that through Google and save a stamp.

Do charts proving that Harper was the worst Prime Minister Canada has ever had in all areas prove anything to you.
http://www.unifor.org/sites/default/...ique_eng_0.pdf

These are some of the promises that the Liberals promised to do and that the J,Trudeau government kept.

Harper was NOT monkeying with pension payouts to make 60 year old`s equal to 67 year old`s- its just YOUR usual LIE-beral version of the truth!

The bottom line on Isis and Syria and Muslims and immigration generally-once you dig down to the opinions of REAL Cdns-as opposed to the thoughts of special interest groups such as immigration lawyers, poverty pimps/social workers and Lie-beral party swine who want to exploit immigrants in exchange for votes and power and be damned to the welfare of Canada is this::::

HARPER WAS RIGHT!!!! The ordinary Cdn wants to see an end to the suffering in the Middle East, wants to see a happy and prosperous end to the violence......AND ordinary Cdns want to see Muslims STAY in their home countries and not come to Canada!

Cdns are concerned that too many immigrants now come to Canada simply looking for access to OUR money. Special interest groups of various stripes already demand too much of our money for affordable housing, special training, welfare and support for a mob of kids often coming in numbers far in excess of what the parents can reasonably support.

Cdns especially fear that radical Muslims will alter life in Canada with their rabid religious demands. Muslims here in Ontari-owe have already approached the Lie-beral govt in hope of getting their Sharia Law imposed on Muslims in Ontari-owe. As Sharia Law is a harsh backward step for women’s rights, Lie-berals realized they had been handed a political time bomb and refused.....but if enough Muslims immigrate to Ontari-owe then Sharia Law WILL be voted in......and with enough votes Sharia Law will be imposed on ALL Cdn women-not just Muslims!

And Cdn government is currently spending something like 250-350 MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR to keep full time security eyes on approximately 250 suspected terrorists that our Lie-beral dominated immigration system has let into the country but who are deemed by security experts as too dangerous to be allowed loose unsupervised and yet the Lie-berals scream racist if Harper govt moves to deport any of these dangerous types.

Lie-beral minded hypocrites want to cosy up to potentially dangerous newcomers in exchange for votes and yet it will be Lie-berals who scream loudest and accuse the govt and cops of incompetence if a terror attack occurs here!

So, the Harper Conservative policy of helping to contain Isis by bombing and trying to create safe areas for Middle Eastern inhabitants is the right one and best for Canada. If Muslims are safe and happy in their current homes then they won’t want or NEED to come here and wont be out on the ocean in flimsy boats risking life and limb in desperation!

And they DON’T really want to come here-one has only to look at the experience of Mohammed Shafia who brought his 2 wives, 2 daughters and 1 son to Canada and ended up murdering the first wife and both daughters......Muslim women who get a look at the way Cdn women live often undergo a crisis of faith-they no longer want to strictly follow Muslim Sharia law and want to live with the freedoms enjoyed by Cdn women.....which prompts sometimes violent conflict within the family. Letting Mohammad Shafia into Canada is going to cost us about FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR in jail house expenses to keep Mohammed, his son and surviving wife locked up for the murders they committed! At $125,00.00 EACH per year for jail costs plus about 3 MILLION DOLLARS for the murder trial to lock them away, they are not a bargain! And we cannot afford any more such `deals`!

Nobody wants to see refugees suffer and we CAN help with that....sending winter coats to Syria as the boy with the nice hair has suggested is a fine start, but what they really need is peace and stability and steady jobs in THEIR homelands and defeating groups like Isis and deposing brutal Syrian dictator Assad who likes to lob poison gas at his enemies will help! Very few Cdns want more Muslims to come to Canada as its like mixing oil and water.....and not good for either one! Only NDP and Trudope support the policy of do nothing and let the economy and world messes sort themselves out!

Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

hmmm,,,,,,,so you didn't compare both hers and Trump's accomplishments before the election. I also see it is mostly men who do not like the notion of a women who is not a sexy fluff head in charge but will accept a very nasty man as better alternative. As a Canadian I feel somewhat saddened by the attitude of some of our "men"


HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Both bluebyrd and tax slave are exposed as LIARS! Both bill themselves as having NO party affiliation! And then proceed to slag anybody who points out obvious holes in LIE-beral and NDP policy!
 
Cannuck
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#583
Here's an idea. Can you actually promote your own political beliefs without criticizing others? More importantly, are your political beliefs logically consistent?
Last edited by Cannuck; Oct 14th, 2017 at 03:10 PM..
 
spilledthebeer
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

Here's an idea. Can you actually promote your own political beliefs without criticizing others? More importantly, are your political beliefs logically consisent?

You spelled consistent wrong. And yes- my position is entirely consistent-I am consistently exposing the gross holes in LIE-beral logic!

Consider whats wrong with LIE-beral spending- with comments from National Post and David Frum- with comments of my own in brackets as usual:

Frum said: I want to examine the Trudeau record in 3 dimensions: What Trudeau did to the Canadian economy, what Trudeau did to Canada’s standing in the world, and what Trudeau did to Canadian political stability.

I’ll conclude by offering some thoughts about the personal and intellectual traits that animated Trudeau’s destructive career. And I hope you’ll agree with me at the end that Trudeau deserves at least this much credit: There was nothing small-scale or parochial about him. As a political wrecker, he was truly world class.

Pierre Trudeau inherited a strong, growing and diversified Canadian economy.

When Trudeau at last left office for good in 1984, Canadians were still feeling the effects of Canada’s worst recession since the Great Depression. Eight years later, the country would tumble into another and even worse recession.

The two recessions 1981-82 and 1992-93 can both fairly be laid at Trudeau’s door.

Pierre Trudeau took office at a moment when commodity prices were rising worldwide. Then as now, rising commodity prices buoyed the Canadian economy. Good policymakers recognize that commodity prices fall as well as rise. A wise government does not make permanent commitments based on temporary revenues. Yet between 1969 and 1979 – through two majority governments and one minority – Trudeau tripled federal spending.

Nemesis followed hubris. Commodity prices dropped. Predictably, Canada tumbled into recession and the worst federal budget deficits in peacetime history.

Trudeau’s Conservative successor Brian Mulroney balanced Canada’s operating budget after 1984. But to squeeze out Trudeau-era inflation, the Bank of Canada had raised real interest rates very high. Mulroney could not keep up with the debt payments. The debt compounded, the deficits grew, the Bank hiked rates again – and Canada toppled into an even worse recession in 1992. By 1993, default on Trudeau’s debt loomed as a real possibility. Trudeau’s next successors, Liberals this time, squeezed even tighter, raising taxes, and leaving Canadians through the 1990s working harder and harder with no real increase in their standard of living.

Do Canadians understand how many of their difficulties of the 1990s originated in the 1970s? They should.

To repay Trudeau’s debt, federal governments reduced transfers to provinces. Provinces restrained spending. And these restraints had real consequences for real people: more months in pain for heart patients, more months of immobility for patients awaiting hip replacements.

If Canada’s health system delivers better results today than 15 years ago, it’s not because it operates more efficiently. Canada’s health system delivers better results because the reduction of Trudeau’s debt burden has freed more funds for healthcare spending. The Canadian socialist Tommy Douglas anticipated the Trudeau disaster when he said that the great enemy of progressive government was unsound finance.

(And “unsound finance” is a delicate way of describing GOVT GREED!)

Pierre Trudeau was a spending fool. He was not alone in that, in the 1970s. But here’s where he was alone. No contemporary leader of an advanced industrial economy – not even the German Social Democrat Helmut Schmidt or the British socialist James Callaghan – had so little understanding as Pierre Trudeau of the private market economy. “Little understanding?” I should have said: “active animosity.”

Trudeau believed in a state-led economy, and the longer he lasted in office, the more statist he became. The Foreign Investment Review Agency was succeeded by Petro-Canada. Petro-Canada was succeeded by wage and price controls. Wage and price controls were succeeded by the single worst economic decision of Canada’s 20th century: the National Energy Program.

The NEP tried to fix two different prices of oil, one inside Canada, one outside. The NEP expropriated foreign oil interests without compensation. The NEP sought to shoulder aside the historic role of the provinces as the owner and manager of natural resources. I’ll return in a moment to the consequences of the NEP for Canada’s political stability. Let’s focus for now on the economic effects.

(The NEP also virtually DOUBLED un-employment in Alberta in a matter of months and led directly to those “let the eastern bastards freeze in the dark” bumper stickers! And it explains why LIE-berals STILL don’t get a lot of votes west of Ontari-owe!)

Most other Western countries redirected themselves toward more fiscal restraint after 1979. Counting on abundant revenues from oil, the Trudeau government kept spending. Other Western governments began to worry more about attracting international investment. Canada repelled investors with arbitrary confiscations. Other Western governments recovered from the stagflation of the 1970s by turning toward freer markets. Under the National Energy Policy, Canada was up-regulating as the US, Britain, and West Germany deregulated. All of these mistakes together contributed to the extreme severity of the 1982 recession. Every one of them was Pierre Trudeau’s fault.

(Interest rates in Canada hit 21 percent in the 1981 period and stayed above 12 percent well into the 1990`s!)

Pierre Trudeau had little taste for the alliances and relationships he inherited in 1968. Canada had taken a lead role in creating the institutions of the postwar world, from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization to the General Organization for Tariffs and Trade. Those institutions were intended in great part to contain the aggressive totalitarian regimes in the Soviet Union and China. In 1968, Canada remained a considerable military power and an important voice in the councils of the West.

Trudeau repudiated that inheritance. His spending spree did not include the military. He cut air and naval capabilities, pulled troops home from Europe, and embarked on morale-destroying reorganizations of the military services. In 1968, Canada was a serious second-tier non-nuclear military power, like Sweden or Israel. By 1984, Canada had lost its war-fighting capability: a loss made vivid when Canada had to opt out of ground combat operations in the first Gulf War of 1990-91.

Something more was going on here than a left-of-center preference for butter over guns. Throughout his life – now better known than ever thanks to John English – Pierre Trudeau showed remarkable indifference to the struggle against totalitarianism that defined the geopolitics of the 20th century.

Indifference may be too polite a word.

(Our Pet praised Chairman Mao for “his genius in rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows” during the “Great Leap Forward”!)

Pierre Trudeau opted not to serve in World War II, although of age and in good health. He traveled to Josef Stalin’s Soviet Union to participate in regime-sponsored propaganda activities. He wrote in praise of Mao’s murderous regime in China. Trudeau lavishly admired Fidel Castro, Julius Nyere, and other Third World dictators. The Soviet dissident Andrei Amalrik scathingly recalled Trudeau’s 1971 prime ministerial visit: Trudeau visited the Siberian city of Norilsk and lamented that Canada had never succeeded in building so large a city so far north – unaware, or unconcerned, that Norilsk had been built by slave labor.

As prime minister, Trudeau to the extent he could tried to reorient Canada away from the great democratic alliance.

(Meaning away from United States and Great Britain. Our Pet referred to the war against Hitler as “British Imperialism”!)

It’s telling I think that Trudeau came to the edge of endorsing the communist coup against Solidarity in Poland in December 1981. Hours after the coup, Pierre Trudeau said: “If martial law is a way to avoid civil war and Soviet intervention, then I cannot say it is all bad.” He added “Hopefully the military regime will be able to keep Solidarity from excessive demands.”

(Our idiot Boy Justin holds the same destructive socialist values. In fact the entire trudope family is a nest of vipers- with other son Sacha telling the world that bloody handed Cuban dictator Castro was a better man than any elected South American leader!)

Trudeau’s neutralism negated Canada’s former influence. Probably few remember now his farcical “peace initiative” of 1982. Convinced that Ronald Reagan was leading the world toward nuclear war, Trudeau shuttled between Western capitals to appeal for some kind of concession to soothe the Soviets. Results? Unconcealed disdain from the Americans, unconcealed boredom from the Soviets.

Canada had often before played an important go-between role. Not this time. Canada’s most important geopolitical asset is its unique relationship with the US. Trudeau had squandered that asset, and with it, his own influence.

(And now Our idiot Boy is screwing up national security by bringing in tens of thousands of Muslims secure in the knowledge that he is pissing off trump and Yankees! The idiot Boy is risking our national trade and our safety with his support for these future Jihadists who want to force Canada to adopt Sharia Law and join the Muslim Caliphate just as soon as they get the necessary votes!)

Obviously, Canada and the United States will disagree sometimes. Canadians of different points of view will favor a more or less intimate relationship with the United States. But even the most US-skeptical Canadian nationalist would agree: it’s reckless and foolish to offend the Americans gratuitously. In fact, the more nationalist the Canadian prime minister, and therefore the more likely to conflict with the Americans on large issues – the more carefully you would expect that prime minister to avoid giving offense over inessentials.

Yet Trudeau made it clear to Presidents Nixon and Carter that he personally disliked them, and to President Reagan that he personally despised him. When it came to foreign affairs, there was always a deep strain of frivolity and irresponsibility in Pierre Trudeau.

(And why not be so rude? Our Pet expects HE will be IMMUNE to any fallout- just like Our idiot Boy! They will take their trust funds and run if things go sour!)

What Trudeau did take seriously was our third ground of indictment: the stability and unity of the country. And it was here that he did perhaps his greatest harm.

Pierre Trudeau had a unique approach to national unity. He ascertained what each of Canada’s regions most dearly wanted – and then he offered them the exact opposite.

Did Quebeckers want to live and work in French in Montreal? Trudeau said no to that – and instead promised that they could live and work in French in Vancouver.

Did Albertans want a less exploitive economic deal within Confederation? Trudeau said no – and instead offered a more exploitive economic deal within Confederation.

Unsurprisingly, Trudeau’s flip-them-the-finger approach to national unity did not yield positive results.

In fact, he nearly blew apart the country – and his own party.

At the beginning of the Trudeau years, separatism was a fringe, radical movement in Quebec. A decade later, Canada faced a referendum on “sovereignty-association.”

In 1968, Trudeau’s Liberals won 25 seats west of Ontario. In 1980, they won 2.

And in the end it was Trudeau’s own policies that destroyed his vision of the country. By dramatically increasing immigration, Trudeau made irrelevant his vision of a bilingual Canada. Lester Pearson famously expressed a hope that he would be Canada’s last unilingual prime minister. It’s very possible that sometime in the 2040s Canada will see its last bilingual prime minister, at least if the second language is French. On current trends, by the 2040s the proportion of French speakers in Canada will be lower than the proportion of Spanish speakers in the United States today.

(But not to worry, language controversy will continue in Canada between English and newly arrived Arabic speakers!)

Defenders of Trudeau’s disastrous governance habitually rally around one great accomplishment: the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

(Except that the Charter does not protect property rights as well as English Common law and it erodes freedom of speech as well- thus making it easier for LIE-berals to condemn people who speak strongly against their wretched polices! If LIE-berals have their way it may soon be illegal- and a hate crime- to criticize LIE-beral immigration policy since you would be hurting the feelings of the new Cdns who have been BOUGHT by the LIE-beral party!)

Well, Herbert Hoover had some excellent wilderness conservation policies, but we don’t excuse the Great Depression on that account.

Would it really have been impossible to combine the adoption of the Charter with a less destructive economic policy, a less destructive foreign policy, a less destructive national unity policy?

Yet there is a sense in which the Charter of Rights and Freedoms is a very characteristic Trudeau project.

The Charter addressed a deficiency in Canadian constitutionalism: checking the powers of government. It’s possible to imagine a lot of solutions to that problem. The solution contained in the Charter is to give unelected judges the power to void acts of Parliament.

Unelected judges chosen by the prime minister at the prime minister’s sole discretion, unscrutinized by any elected body.

(Yes- the LIE-beral hug a thug judges who just awarded terror poster Boy Omar Khadr $10 million dollars. The same judges who listened to the Muslim woman Cdn Tire terrorist with the knife and golf club who explained she hates Canada and Cdns and wants to give up Cdn citizenship and be sent home. She explained that if we keep her here she will launch MORE attacks on us. And the judge told her not to be in a hurry top abandon Canada!)

The Charter encapsulates the grand theme of Trudeau’s political life: his lack of respect for the people who returned him to office again and again – his instinctive sympathy for power, the less accountable the better.

One story sums up the man best.

1979. Trudeau had lost that year’s election. His career seemed finished. Reporters awaited in the driveway of 22 Sussex Drive as he stepped into his gull-winged vintage Mercedes to speed away into history.

One shouted: “Mr. Prime Minister – any regrets?”

Pierre Trudeau pondered. Perhaps he had planned, perhaps he remembered something that Richard Nixon had said after losing the California governor’s race in 1962. In an instant Pierre Trudeau revised Nixon’s words to his own very different purpose. “Yes,” he said. “I regret I won’t have you to kick around any more.”

It’s long past time that Canadians in turn resolved: no longer to be posthumously kicked by this bad man and disastrous prime minister.

National Post
 
Cannuck
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#585
I gave up reading after the first paragraph. I don't know who you think you're fooling
 
bluebyrd35
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#586
Sorry really screwed this one up!
Last edited by bluebyrd35; Oct 14th, 2017 at 09:54 PM..Reason: Wrong post.
 
Murphy
Conservative
#587
You might want to change the quote in your post above. That was not mine. It was spilledthebeer.
 
bluebyrd35
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Quote: Originally Posted by Murphy View Post

You might want to change the quote in your post above. That was not mine. It was spilledthebeer.

Hopefully I have!! Sorry/
 
JLM
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#589
Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

Here's an idea. Can you actually promote your own political beliefs without criticizing others? More importantly, are your political beliefs logically consistent?


Says the biggest hypocrite on the Forum! (If handing out "Reds" isn't criticizing I don't know what is)
 
Cannuck
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#590
You're such a snowflake.
 
Hoof Hearted
#591
Just when you think Cannuck is gone from the forum for good...

 
Cannuck
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#592
The wackjobs are just too entertaining.
 
JLM
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#593
Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

The wackjobs are just too entertaining.


Who do you entertain?
 
Cannuck
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#594
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Who do you entertain?

I'm sorry for embarrassing and upsetting you yet again. Look on the bright side. You'll most likely be dead in a few years at best
 
Murphy
Conservative
#595
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

Hopefully I have!! Sorry/

No problem. I just did not wish to be affiliated with his lengthy rants.
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#596

Speaking of whack jobs...
 
spilledthebeer
#597
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post


Speaking of whack jobs...


A LIE-beral asks me :who I think I am fooling here"? MY answer: "I am fooling exactly as many people as LIE-berals are"!

Problem for LIE-berals this: THEY ARE TRYING to fool people and \i am telling the facts and truth! Oh my!

Here is a story out of the Post Media detailing the hypocrisy and double- speak of LIE-beral money managers-along with some comments of my own in brackets):

It's time we tackled government debt. By Jim Warren.
Postmedia Network. First posted: Saturday, July 02, 2016 06:30 PM EDT | Updated: Saturday, July 02, 2016 06:39 PM EDT

The federal government should be dedicating specific tax revenues to reduce the debt of Canada’s provincial and municipal governments.

(Sorry-LIE-berals consider that buying votes and staying power is more important than fussing about reducing crippling debt loads!)

In addition, we should be placing restrictions on the total amount of debt provincial and municipal governments can borrow in order to force local politicians to make more realistic decisions about increasing taxes and reducing spending.

(Debt is BAD-one has only to look at the mess in the Pigs-Portugal, Ireland, Greece and Spain to see that debt can CRIPPLE an entire society! So who would speak in favour of MORE debts for Cdns? And WHY only put limits on provincial and municipal govt? Why not on federal clowns too?)

( Make a LIST and put on it the following who ALL want MORE debt: LIE-berals trying to BUY civil service Hog votes! LIE-berals such as Our brainless Boy prime minister Trudope who follows in his fathers footsteps and wants to DESTROY what he calls Cdn Imperialism! The civil service Hogs themselves who have more entitlements than we can EVER pay for and don’t care if they bankrupt us just so long as they get what they THINK they deserve! Various immigrant groups such as the Muslim supporters of the Cdn Caliphate who want us to collapse and be reborn as a Muslim nation under Sharia Law-the “most perfect system” as THEY call it; and they figure our collapse will come SOONER if we are BANKRUPT and not able to defend ourselves! Muddled reverse racists of groups like Black Lives Matter who don’t care what happens to white people just so long as its bad-and are not smart enough to figure out what will happen to gormless blacks if white govt fails! If the country is bankrupt then WHO will be buying the drugs and the `ho`s and other merchandise? And how will blacks be living if there is no more welfare? Throw in air head environmentalists who want our economy to collapse so we wont `oppress the Earth and its creatures any longer` -and so what if we few survivors of the collapse end up shivering in mud huts and eating our one daily meal of Dandelion greens RAW because trees are sacred and not for burning, building or heating!)

Parliamentary Budget Officer Jean-Denis Fréchette warned in a report last week that Canada’s provinces and sub-national governments are struggling with their finances and their debt levels are unsustainable.

(I have to ask: does this imbecile Frechette realize that our prime minister is all FOR massive debts? The more spending the merrier-so WHAT that the mad spending plan of Our foolish Boy is nothing more than a MASSIVE RETREAD of that old Ontari-owe NDP plan to make us rich by BORROWING MONEY! And we all remember how that worked out-with those Rae days and Hogs besieging Queens Park as replacement premier Mike Harris struggled to restore common sense and logic-while OPP “wacked and stacked” Brainless Hogs who did not know when they were well off!)

(Apparently Frechette has drunk the coolaid and BELIEVES that Our brainless Boy can perform a magic trick and somehow pull something valuable out of his ass! Fifty years of LIE-beral socialism and civil servants now figure robbing Peter to pay Paul and then screwing them both in favour of Hogs is standard govt business! But just what is it that Hogs figure can be collected from ALREADY bankrupt citizens is not clearly spelled out! Oh well, LIE-berals can always restore order by BORROWING EVEN MORE?)

The report looked at total government spending, revenue and debt levels for all levels of government, as well as the Canada Pension Plan and Quebec Pension Plan.

The PBO concluded that after the new spending and infrastructure announcements made by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, the federal government fiscal plan is sustainable.

However, it also concludes the total sub-national debt for the provinces and cities across Canada is not sustainable, and they require new revenue or spending cuts to bring their debt to sustainable levels.

(What the report tells us is that the provinces and cities are BANKRUPT-and that in a few years-after a series of those THIRTY BILLION PLUS BOOB RAE style Trudope deficits-the federal govt will ALSO be bankrupt. And NOBODY is asking what will happen to the provinces if Ottawa cuts back on transfer payments to bankrupt provinces- as WAS DONE by debt hobbled LIE-beral Jean Chretien? And no-after a certain point -as Boob Rae found out-YOU CANNOT BORROW ANY MORE!)

This presents a huge political and economic problem for Canada’s provinces and cities – and therefore an even bigger problem for Canadians.

When governments borrow money to invest in infrastructure programs like highways, bridges or transit, they build assets for the future with the costs spread out over several generations.

(But borrowing money so govt can buy Hog votes is clearly not sustainable!)

Our country needs this type of spending and Trudeau is working with the provinces and cities to implement the largest infrastructure program in Canadian history.

(Problem is that Boy is really only handing out enough money to REPAIR infrastructure-there will be NOTHING NEW built and certainly no critical new transit produced on his watch!)

The Alberta economy especially needs this shot in the arm, as does Ontario. It means spending money to make money as infrastructure spending helps grow both the economy and tax revenues.

(Apparently it would be useful for LIE-berals to purchase and WATCH the old TVO documentary on the bankruptcy of New Zealand! Infrastructure spending is STILL SPENDING! New Zealand hit the debt wall and had to STOP installing things like sewers in new subdivisions-yeah-picture-AND smell it-brand new houses and the toilets flush DIRECTLY into a trench out back cause there is NO money for pipes! Don’t like the smell and the swarms of vermin living on your shit piled out back of your NICE house? Too f***ing bad-it’s the PRICE of bankruptcy!)

But we need our cities and provinces to dedicate specific tax revenue to pay down these costs over time and to cover interest and debt repayment. They need specific rules to dedicate money to cover these costs and there needs to be limits to how much money can be borrowed.

While federal spending on infrasctructure is sustainable, that is not the case in the provinces.

The answer is not to toss more federal money to the lower levels of government.

Robbing Peter to pay Paul is just more money out of our pockets since there’s only one taxpayer. If your family faced this problem, you would get your fiscal house in order or you would lose your house.

In addition, the provinces are facing an aging population that requires more health care spending than ever before.

(In other words Warren is advocating that we dump LIE-beral clowns in favour of somebody with a spine and a frugal way with money!)

Education spending is more important than ever to ensure our young people can earn enough income to pay enough taxes to take care of the boomers as they retire.

(Other comments have been posted on this site to illustrate that LIE-berals would rather spend on teachers than on health care-even as student enrollment shrinks and numbers of people seeking health care soar-teachers are DEDICATED LIE-beral supporters-medical types are not and as always LIE-beral priorities are
SCREWED in favour of reliable supporters!)

But these fiscal realities come at a cost that today’s politicians must be honest about with taxpayers, instead of just borrowing more money. Taking on more debt to pay for health care is like burning your furniture to heat your house – it’s unsustainable.

We enjoy a standard of care in health and other services that we do not pay for. We have to spend less and live with that quality – or pay the true cost to keep the standards we have.

(I say that`s LIE-beral GARBAGE! LIE-berals have CHOSEN between gravy for Hogs and spending for health care! It’s a SIMPLE EQUATION-more money for gravy means MORE HOG VOTES for LIE-berals and LESS money for health care-which is already being rationed to ordinary people!)

If the federal government just sends more money to cities and provinces, we will not have a proper debate about paying the true costs of our society and the benefits we enjoy.

If the federal government has the fiscal room, it should be dedicated to infrastructure spending or debt relief for the provinces, while putting limits on how much more money they can borrow.

(Its been said before on this site-LIE-beral govt MUST chose between sensible budgets and more gravy for Hogs-and since LIE-berals CANNOT be elected without massive support from their Hog pals, we know LIE-berals will not handle our money wisely without having a gun put to their heads! What`s REALLY funny about the Frechette remarks about debt is that he is a federal Hog and yet he recognizes the heart of the LIE-beral problem. I guess he must be able to add and subtract well and is worried about his health care and his old age pension-WITH GOOD REASON!)

(And the KICKER regarding all these warnings and comments about debt? Brought to you courtesy of LIE-beral strategists Jim Warren-who worked on the Dalton McGinty campaign! Yes, Warren helped LIE-eral fools seeking power and apparently has now seen the light! Too bad Ontari-owe debt has DOUBLED since McGinty came to power with Warrens help!)
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#598
Nobody has time to read your hate filled diatribes, Beer.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

I'm sorry for embarrassing and upsetting you yet again. Look on the bright side. You'll most likely be dead in a few years at best


Embarrassing? Upsetting? Au contraire! If you don't change your ways, you little asshole, you won't last a few years!
 
bluebyrd35
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Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

SURE I can! Too bad LIE-berals are not so discerning!

Here is another article illustrating that Our idiot Boy Justin is apparently- at heart- a ROYAL BIGOT with substantial disdain for ordinary Cdns! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Trudeau says we’re disorganized — by blood

POSTMEDIA NETWORK. First posted: Monday, July 10, 2017 07:46 PM EDT | Updated: Monday, July 10, 2017 07:52 PM EDT

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau greets German Chancellor Angela Merkel during a bilateral meeting at the G20 summit Friday, July 7, 2017 in Hamburg, Germany. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Ryan Remiorz

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has done it again.

During a friendly interview with Germany’s second-largest newspaper, BILD, last week, Trudeau, in Hamburg for the G20 meeting, was asked by the popular tabloid: “Just very briefly, what is your view on Germany?”

Trudeau starts off well enough, describing Germans as “wonderful, thoughtful people” adding, “my stepfather was born in East Germany. I was raised to love German culture and German food – even the red cabbage. It’s something I feel a tremendous kinship to.”

OK, silly, but harmless.

But then Trudeau, unprompted, follows up with this gem. In a bid to compliment his German hosts, according to the transcript of the interview published by BILD, Trudeau says:

“You are perhaps a little more … I’m looking for the right word – predictable? No, you’re more organized, maybe, than Canadians can be. We’ve got enough French and Latin blood in us to be less organized.”

Um, beg your pardon, Prime Minister?

Canadians are less organized than Germans because of our “French and Latin blood?”

Isn’t that making exactly the kind of stereotypical and sweeping generalizations you’re always scolding Canadians about?

(Sure sounds “sweeping and generalized’ to me! And why is our Human Rights- but too often wrong gang not publicly correcting Our idiot Boy?)

Why does Trudeau seem to feel the need to put down Canadians — or some Canadians — when he’s complimenting someone else?

For example, when he told CTV in a Canada Day interview he was “jealous” of immigrants who chose Canada, as opposed to those born here whom he called, “Canadians by default.”

Warming to that theme, Trudeau mocked what he described as the intolerant minority of native-born Canadians who think of others, “Go back to your own country”, before virtue signalling his own tolerance by admonishing: “No. You immigrants chose this country. This is your country more than it is for others, because we take it for granted.”

(I suggest that is one thing- and racist at that, to tell people “go back to your country” simply because of the way they look. But IS it racist- or just common sense- to tell radical Muslims to go home because we are genuinely afraid they will stab us, blow us up or run us over? Is it bigotry to ask “ how much will it cost to deal with the tens of thousands of illegals flooding over our border - with so many of them lacking in education and language skills that they will require major govt aid for years or decades to come”? Our idiot Boy does Not bother with the fine print as he insults anybody who disagrees with him!)

Talk about turning the idea we’re all equal as Canadians, no matter if we were born here or came from somewhere else, on its head.

Then again, maybe that’s because of our “French and Latin blood” which makes us less organized in our thinking than Germans. Right, prime minister?

It almost sounds as if Trudeau has an inferiority complex about being Canadian. Either that, or his ideas on the subject are a mile wide and an inch deep. You decide.

(I suggest his views are all about following in his fathers vile footsteps. Pierre Trudope once publicly told reporters that if he became prime minister, he wanted to “take Canada from the past into the future via the route of radical socialism”! Trudope values are so vile that Pierre actually told people that the “war against Nazi Germany was British Imperialism”! Later he went on to praise Chinese leader Mao for “his genius in rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows” in his book “Two Innocents in Red China”! The Trudope clan- as their various writings and public statements are proven Not to be people who will offer a strong defense of capitalism or democracy-in fact they will offer the OPPOSITE and undermine it regularly!)

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Harper was NOT monkeying with pension payouts to make 60 year old`s equal to 67 year old`s- its just YOUR usual LIE-beral version of the truth!

The bottom line on Isis and Syria and Muslims and immigration generally-once you dig down to the opinions of REAL Cdns-as opposed to the thoughts of special interest groups such as immigration lawyers, poverty pimps/social workers and Lie-beral party swine who want to exploit immigrants in exchange for votes and power and be damned to the welfare of Canada is this::::

HARPER WAS RIGHT!!!! The ordinary Cdn wants to see an end to the suffering in the Middle East, wants to see a happy and prosperous end to the violence......AND ordinary Cdns want to see Muslims STAY in their home countries and not come to Canada!

Cdns are concerned that too many immigrants now come to Canada simply looking for access to OUR money. Special interest groups of various stripes already demand too much of our money for affordable housing, special training, welfare and support for a mob of kids often coming in numbers far in excess of what the parents can reasonably support.

Cdns especially fear that radical Muslims will alter life in Canada with their rabid religious demands. Muslims here in Ontari-owe have already approached the Lie-beral govt in hope of getting their Sharia Law imposed on Muslims in Ontari-owe. As Sharia Law is a harsh backward step for women’s rights, Lie-berals realized they had been handed a political time bomb and refused.....but if enough Muslims immigrate to Ontari-owe then Sharia Law WILL be voted in......and with enough votes Sharia Law will be imposed on ALL Cdn women-not just Muslims!

And Cdn government is currently spending something like 250-350 MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR to keep full time security eyes on approximately 250 suspected terrorists that our Lie-beral dominated immigration system has let into the country but who are deemed by security experts as too dangerous to be allowed loose unsupervised and yet the Lie-berals scream racist if Harper govt moves to deport any of these dangerous types.

Lie-beral minded hypocrites want to cosy up to potentially dangerous newcomers in exchange for votes and yet it will be Lie-berals who scream loudest and accuse the govt and cops of incompetence if a terror attack occurs here!

So, the Harper Conservative policy of helping to contain Isis by bombing and trying to create safe areas for Middle Eastern inhabitants is the right one and best for Canada. If Muslims are safe and happy in their current homes then they won’t want or NEED to come here and wont be out on the ocean in flimsy boats risking life and limb in desperation!

And they DON’T really want to come here-one has only to look at the experience of Mohammed Shafia who brought his 2 wives, 2 daughters and 1 son to Canada and ended up murdering the first wife and both daughters......Muslim women who get a look at the way Cdn women live often undergo a crisis of faith-they no longer want to strictly follow Muslim Sharia law and want to live with the freedoms enjoyed by Cdn women.....which prompts sometimes violent conflict within the family. Letting Mohammad Shafia into Canada is going to cost us about FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR in jail house expenses to keep Mohammed, his son and surviving wife locked up for the murders they committed! At $125,00.00 EACH per year for jail costs plus about 3 MILLION DOLLARS for the murder trial to lock them away, they are not a bargain! And we cannot afford any more such `deals`!

Nobody wants to see refugees suffer and we CAN help with that....sending winter coats to Syria as the boy with the nice hair has suggested is a fine start, but what they really need is peace and stability and steady jobs in THEIR homelands and defeating groups like Isis and deposing brutal Syrian dictator Assad who likes to lob poison gas at his enemies will help! Very few Cdns want more Muslims to come to Canada as its like mixing oil and water.....and not good for either one! Only NDP and Trudope support the policy of do nothing and let the economy and world messes sort themselves out!




HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Both bluebyrd and tax slave are exposed as LIARS! Both bill themselves as having NO party affiliation! And then proceed to slag anybody who points out obvious holes in LIE-beral and NDP policy!

Bluebyrd 35 - For Gawd's sake will you get at least one thing straight. Before going off half-cocked on one of those long rants that make no sense look up what you do not believe & give up proof of why you do not believe the articles written by good sources!

Here is where Harper raised the retirement age to 67. After up having read it and looked up where Trudeau returned the age to 65 , I want an apology and in the email shouting you seem to be so fond of.

Budget reveals plan to raise retirement age to 67 - MoneySense

PS I know of several people who are quite happy with the reversal because they are able to retire two years early than if Harper had been elected.
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