It's Climate Change I tell'ya!! IT'S CLIMATE CHANGE!!


pgs
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#121
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

150 glaciers in Glacier National Park in 1850.

25 active today.

Why are stupid people so stupid?

Yes please explain why you are ?
 
captain morgan
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#122
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Yes, It's Due to Human Activity: New Research 'Should Finally Stop Climate Change Deniers'

European and US scientists have cleared up a point that has been nagging away at climate science for decades: not only is the planet warming faster than at any time in the last 2,000 years, but this unique climate change really does have neither a historic precedent nor a natural cause.
Other historic changes — the so-called Medieval Warm Period and then the “Little Ice Age” that marked the 17th to the 19th centuries — were not global. The only period in which the world’s climate has changed, everywhere and at the same time, is right now.
And other shifts in the past, marked by advancing Alpine glaciers and sustained droughts in Africa, could be pinned down to a flurry of violent volcanic activity.
The present sustained, ubiquitous warming is unique in that it can be coupled directly with the Industrial Revolution, the clearing of the forests, population growth and profligate use of fossil fuels.
The finding is part of a sustained examination of global climate history, based not just on written and pictorial records but also studies of ancient lake sediments, ice cores, tree rings and other proxy evidence assembled by an international partnership called the Past Global Changes Consortium. It is reported in the journal Nature.
Research like this is a tidying-up operation. Climate scientists, conservationists, glaciologists, marine biologists, geologists and economists all know that climate change is happening, and that it is happening as a consequence of accelerated human activity over the last two centuries.
But from the start, there have always been gnawing questions: hasn’t the climate always changed? If global temperatures rose between 700 AD and 1400 AD, and then fell again, is what is happening now not part of some similar long-term cycle? And until now, that has remained without a confident, categorical answer.
So the latest study surprises nobody. But it matters, because the Nature study clarifies a point of possible confusion. There have been changes in modern human history, but none of them global and synchronous (happening at the same time). They were random fluctuations within the climate system, and even changes in solar activity or volcanic surges could not affect all of the planet at any one time.
“It’s true that during the Little Ice Age it was generally colder across the whole world,” says Raphel Neukom of the University of Bern in Switzerland, and first author, “but not everywhere at the same time. The peak periods of pre-industrial warm and cold periods occurred at different times in different places.”
And his Bern colleague Stefan Brönnimann clears up another point in a related study in the pages of Nature Geoscience.
Volcanic influence

The Little Ice Age began in Europe with no obvious trigger, but it was certainly reinforced and extended by more violent than usual volcanic activity in the tropics between 1808 and 1835. Mt Tambora in what is now Indonesia put so much ash into the stratosphere to screen sunlight and drop temperatures that 1816 became known as the Year without a Summer.
But there were also four other eruptions. Between 1820 and 1850, Alpine glaciers — now in alarming retreat — actually advanced. African and Indian monsoon systems weakened, and rain that should have fallen on hot soils dropped as more snow over Europe.
“Given the large climatic changes seen in the early 19th century, it is difficult to define a pre-industrial climate, a notion to which all our climate targets refer,” said Professor Brönnimann. “Frequent volcanic eruptions caused an actual gear shift in the global climate system.”
Commenting on the Nature finding, Mark Maslin, a climatologist at University College London, said: “Over the last 2000 years the only time the global climate has changed synchronically has been in the last 150 years when over 98 percent of the surface of the planet has warmed. This paper should finally stop climate change deniers claiming that the recent observed coherent global warming is part of a natural climate cycle.”
“This paper shows the truly stark difference between regional and localised changes in climates of the past and the truly global effect of anthropogenic greenhouse emissions.”



More: https://www.desmog.co.uk/2019/08/19/...change-deniers




it all sounds so sciencey... it's gotta be true.


PS - Ice free north pole since 2013 is proof enough for me
 
DaSleeper
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#123
Repeat a lie often enough............................................ .........
 
spilledthebeer
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#124
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

If you look on a map there is plenty of water between the Arctic and South SK.

Maybe Toontown and N Battleford are in river valleys?

Maybe? Who knows?

When did this guy move here from Ontario?




Here is a relevant little FUN FACT................................


the KASHETCHEWAN native reserve in sited on the Hudson`s Bay Lowlands..........................................


meaning it is WELL ABOVE the general Arctic tree line...........................................


SO WHY are there WILLOW TREES growing up there in the larger river valleys?????????????????????


If somebody were to GUESS that warmer waters from the SOUTH.....................................


were flowing through the area........................................


and keeping the trees alive......................................


you would be RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


When the weather turns suddenly COOL........................


local water sources MODERATE THE TEMPERATURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!


Saskatchewan IS NOT suddenly shivering because parts of it are near rivers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Curious Cdn
#125
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

Repeat a lie often enough............................................ .........

No, most people don't buy into the Alt Right lies.

You guys are freaks, actually.
 
captain morgan
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#126
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

Repeat a lie often enough............................................ .........


.... And the gullible and self righteous will take the bait every time
Last edited by captain morgan; Aug 20th, 2019 at 07:25 PM..
 
pgs
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#127
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

.... And the gullible and self righteous will take the bait every time

You mean those self righteousness hypocrites ?
 
taxslave
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#128
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

it all sounds so sciencey... it's gotta be true.
PS - Ice free north pole since 2013 is proof enough for me

Note the source. A globull warming truthers group.
 
taxslave
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#129
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

No, most people don't buy into the Alt Right lies.
You guys are freaks, actually.

So globull warming truthers are alt-right now? I guess they are an alternative to being right.
 
petros
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#130
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

150 glaciers in Glacier National Park in 1850.
25 active today.
Why are stupid people so stupid?

Yes, why are people so stupid. In 1850, how old were those alleged 125 that disappeared?

350-400yrs old or was it ancient ice ?
 
captain morgan
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#131
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

You mean those self righteousness hypocrites ?


Yes sir.. You know exactly who we are talking about


Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Note the source. A globull warming truthers group.

Yep, the same gaggle of ecotards that annually scream that the sky is falling.... Mind you, it is great entertainment observing all of their flimsy predictions, projection and models fail in such a spectacular manner
 
petros
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#132
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Why are glaciers growing in Glacier National Park ?

20 years ago climate change was to empty the great Lakes. Today they are at record highs. WTF?


From just 7yrs ago but includes doomsday prophecies from 2002.


Warming Lakes: Climate Change and Variability Drive Low Water Levels on the Great Lakes
November 20, 2012
Low water levels expose the sandy lake bottom on Lake Michigan. Photo by Jeff J. Cashman.



For people living around the Great Lakes, water levels this past month have appeared much lower than many will remember. The upper Great Lakes reached near-record low water levels in October. This was most evident on Lakes Michigan and Huron, where lake levels dropped to less than two inches (4 cm) above record lows and 28 inches (71 cm) below the long-term average. All five lakes, plus Lake St. Clair, remain below their long-term averages.

Rock and sand recently exposed by low water levels made stretches of the northern Lake Michigan shoreline look like a moonscape. Recreational boaters had trouble navigating the shallow water this fall, and shipping companies lightened loads to compensate for low water. Lakes Michigan and Huron hovered just above a record low set nearly 50 years ago, and Lake Superior was within five inches (11 cm) of a record low set in 1925.

A 2002 National Geographic magazine story, Down the Drain: The Incredible Shrinking Great Lakes, documents declining lake levels and the potential economic and ecological consequences for the region. Ten years later, the story continues to unfold, as water levels remain lower than normal.

Experts blame the recent low water on the unusually warm and dry weather over the past year. Rain events in October, including Hurricane Sandy, delayed the inevitable, but forecasters predict Lakes Superior, Michigan, and Huron will likely reach historic low levels in the late fall or winter, a time of year that the lakes are normally already dropping due to high rates of evaporation
 
petros
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#133
Now we see:

Lake Superior's level set a new mark for June
Water levels in two of the Great Lakes are the highest ever recorded. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers said Tuesday that Lakes Erie and Ontario last month reached their highest points since record-keeping began in 1918.

Jul 10, 2019
 
pgs
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#134
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Now we see:

Lake Superior's level set a new mark for June
Water levels in two of the Great Lakes are the highest ever recorded. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers said Tuesday that Lakes Erie and Ontario last month reached their highest points since record-keeping began in 1918.

Jul 10, 2019

About the same time water levels were falling in the B.C. interior especially noticeable in the larger lakes , this was said to be the new normal . People owning lakeside moved their docks and built on the shoreline . When water levels returned to normal a couple of years ago you could hear the crying all the way to Victoria . The docks either broke apart or were rendered useless .
 
petros
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#135
Back when everybody bought dirt cheap AC and cranked em up to combat the heat of growing indoors in summer.

There wouldn't have been a need for Site C if it weren't for indoor weed supporting the economy of the interior.
 
spilledthebeer
#136
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Now we see:

Lake Superior's level set a new mark for June
Water levels in two of the Great Lakes are the highest ever recorded. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers said Tuesday that Lakes Erie and Ontario last month reached their highest points since record-keeping began in 1918.

Jul 10, 2019




GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And now LIE-berals are trying to think of some way..........................................


to label you as a Green lobbyist pressure group................................


and SILENCE YOUR VOICE....................................


so you will not interfere with their election FAIRY TALES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Curious Cdn
#137
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

About the same time water levels were falling in the B.C. interior especially noticeable in the larger lakes , this was said to be the new normal . People owning lakeside moved their docks and built on the shoreline . When water levels returned to normal a couple of years ago you could hear the crying all the way to Victoria . The docks either broke apart or were rendered useless .

Do you hatseeds really think that there is a connection between the water levels in the BC Interior and a fresh water Upper Great Lake thousands of kilometers away?

Reply?

You do?


AHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

 
pgs
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#138
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Do you hatseeds really think that there is a connection between the water levels in the BC Interior and a fresh water Upper Great Lake thousands of kilometers away?

Reply?

You do?


AHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Did anyone say that ? Comprehension isn’t your strong suit is it ?
 
taxslave
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#139
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Do you hatseeds really think that there is a connection between the water levels in the BC Interior and a fresh water Upper Great Lake thousands of kilometers away?
Reply?
You do?
AHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

The connection is that the same group of bullshitters predicted dire consequences for both. And they were wrong both times.
 
DaSleeper
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#140
Had to run the furnace again last night and this morning.....
Global warming? I Believe, I Believe, I Believe!
 
captain morgan
#141
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

Had to run the furnace again last night and this morning.....
Global warming? I Believe, I Believe, I Believe!


Won't be very long before we'll all be shoveling loads of global warming from the walk ways
 
NZDoug
#142
I remember Hurricane Hazel,in the 50s but I don't remember Toronto Islands and the Beaches constantly flooding annually.
Boiling frog syndrome.
No slur on Le Quebecois.
 
captain morgan
#143
Trends in climate are measured in aeons and millenia.... Observations made during our lives, while interesting, really don't amount to that much considering that our lifetime is less than a fraction of a blink of a nanosecond in the relative time of the Earth and its systems
 
NZDoug
#144
Seeing is believing in my life time, as its all I got to go on.
Maybe we are all in the same bad dream.
Everyone thinks there era was the golden one, I'm glad I was born when the world wasn't trashed.
 
spilledthebeer
#145
Quote: Originally Posted by NZDoug View Post

I remember Hurricane Hazel,in the 50s but I don't remember Toronto Islands and the Beaches constantly flooding annually.
Boiling frog syndrome.
No slur on Le Quebecois.


RED CHINESE JACKASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Storms in the 1850,s CHOPPED UP the Toronto PENINSULA ...............................


INTO THE TORONTO ISLANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!



Subequent construction of breakwaters.......................................


and alterations to both.............................................. ......


Humber and Don River Channels...........................


plus construction of the Island Airport with its concrete buttressed shoreline,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,


ALL CONSPIRE to make sure that the erosion and water levels of today..........................................


DO NOT have the same effect and influence from 100 years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is worth pointing out that the ENTIRE........................


lake shoreline has been SO ALTERED.......................


that Fort York.....................


which used to stand on the BEACH.......................


is now over a MILE INLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
captain morgan
#146
Quote: Originally Posted by NZDoug View Post

Seeing is believing in my life time, as its all I got to go on.


The continental plates are in perpetual movement.. Although it is continually in motion, we will never 'see' it, but it doesn't mean it isn't happening.



Quote: Originally Posted by NZDoug View Post

Maybe we are all in the same bad dream.


Are you saying that all people on the planet are exposed to hoid or curious cdn?


Egads!.... The humanity!!!



Quote: Originally Posted by NZDoug View Post

Everyone thinks there era was the golden one, I'm glad I was born when the world wasn't trashed.


No doubt and to add, each generation says something to the effect that of the world being more pristine during their tenure... Kinda human nature I guess
 
DaSleeper
#147
Quote: Originally Posted by NZDoug View Post

I remember Hurricane Hazel,in the 50s but I don't remember Toronto Islands and the Beaches constantly flooding annually.
Boiling frog syndrome.
No slur on Le Quebecois.

It all depends on how much snowfall we have in the central Ontario snow belt and how fast the spring melt down is.
Also how good the operators are at controlling the water flow at the various dams along the waterways..
 
spilledthebeer
#148
Quote: Originally Posted by NZDoug View Post

Seeing is believing in my life time, as its all I got to go on.
Maybe we are all in the same bad dream.
Everyone thinks there era was the golden one, I'm glad I was born when the world wasn't trashed.




SOVIET STOOGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The existence of people like YOU............................................... ......


trashed the place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
spilledthebeer
#149
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Yes please explain why you are ?




HemerHOID is a LIE-beral.....................................


LIE-berals PROFIT from having political power.......................................


whether it be DIRECT PROFIT from being employed as a politician.............................


or indirect profit from working in an industry.......................................... ..


that is heavily patronized by LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Follow the money trail.......................................


from taxes collected from ordinary people............................................


over to where the money ends up..............................................


far too often!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WAY TO MUCH GRAVY IS GRABBED................................


one way or another by LIE-berals and their pals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


Find out where hemerHOID gets most of or all of............................................


his income................................


and you will find his pockets STUFFED with Gravy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
pgs
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#150
Quote: Originally Posted by NZDoug View Post

Seeing is believing in my life time, as its all I got to go on.
Maybe we are all in the same bad dream.
Everyone thinks there era was the golden one, I'm glad I was born when the world wasn't trashed.

And it still isn’t. If you remember hurricane Hazel , you must rem ember hurricane Freda . Why is the air quality in the lower mainland of B.C. better know than it was back then ? The population has doubled since .