MEGXIT - Prince Harry, Meghan move to Canada 🇨🇦


Blackleaf
#61
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

And that role is "Ceremonial only"
She has no legal say in the laws and the running of the country!


So just like the the other 15 Commonwealth Realms, then.

Of course, your monarch does have powers they can use. Your monarch can fire a PM. Your monarch can free any prisoner from jail if they decide to do so. That's just two examples.

Your PMs and governments can only take power with your monarch's approval. There's another one.

So your monarch isn't entirely "ceremonial".

As for Harry and Meghan, if you want to welcome them with open arms after they fled another of their Realms supposedly because of the nasty British press then you can pay for them. Why should we pay for them when they don't live here?
 
Tecumsehsbones
+1
#62
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

You have to bear in mind that Canada is not ruled by the British monarchy. It's ruled by the Canadian monarchy, which is separate and independent from the British monarchy.
Canada is a constitutional monarchy in its own right, like Britain and the Netherlands, and has nothing to do with the British monarchy.

And why should I "bear in mind" your jejeune blather? What does it have to do with the full, formal name of Canada?

Oh, right, nothing.
 
petros
+2
#63
I'm sure they wont be residing here so they wont be my problem.
 
taxslave
+1
#64
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

I was under the impression that Canada is a constitutional monarchy.
Can you tell me in what year Canada became a republic?
What's your Governor General's role?

Waste money.
 
taxslave
+1
#65
Quote: Originally Posted by NZDoug View Post

GOOD IDEA !
We aint got no money, Honey.
As Kiwis say when NZers move to Australia, both sides I.Q. gets raised.
I would view the displaced royals as a coup.
I'm sure they would generate their keep.
KIA KAHA ! (Be Strong).

What are you planing? Put them on display and charge admission.?
 
taxslave
+1
#66
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

I'm sure they wont be residing here so they wont be my problem.

Not in meythville for sure, but if the media is to be believed Victoria is a possibility and that is just too close to home. Let them live in Montreal or somewhere..
 
mrhill
#67
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

So I can tell I'm not exactly dealing with Einsteins on this forum.

That's how I feel with the people here too.
 
mrhill
#68
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

You're a constitutional monarchy, so what you said isn't true.

They don't recognize anything that cost them money but when it doesn't, they will.
 
DaSleeper
+1
#69
The sovereign similarly only draws from Canadian funds for support in the performance of her duties when in Canada or acting as Queen of Canada abroad; Canadians do not pay any money to the Queen or any other member of the Royal Family, either towards personal income or to support royal residences outside of Canada.


Where is costs us money is the governor general salary and residence and all the provincial lieutenants ....


Look it up like I did..
 
spilledthebeer
#70
Quote: Originally Posted by Gilgamesh View Post

Actually our form of government means that we do just that.
The sooner we become a Republic, the better.




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


BETTER WE STAY AS WE ARE THAN REOPEN THE CONSTITUTIONAL TALKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THE MEECH LAKE CRAP WAS KILLED OFF BY NATIVE MP ELIJAH HARPER.................................


CASTING THE CRITICAL DECIDING against VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I APPLAUD THE DEATH OF MEECH LAKE........................................


BUT DEPLORE HARPERS REASON FOR KILLING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


MP Elijah Harper wanted THE RIGHTS OF EVEN MORE SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS enshrined................................


in our already poisoned Cdn Constitution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


one only has to look at the LIE-beral loopholes that permit our Human Rights but too often Wrong Kangaroo Courts....................


to bully and harass and silence Cdns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our CBC/Communist Broadcasting Corp routinely CENSORS views unsatisfactory to LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our LIE-beral loving Cdn news media whores routinely repeat LIES regarding our allegedly "BOOMING ECONOMY"......................



even as our economy SETS NEW RECORDS for deficits and debt.............................


followed by deplorable tales of woe from RAPIDLY GROWING HOMELESS CAMPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Other news articles GRUDGINGLY reveal the exponential growth of opiod addiction in communities that lose a major employer such



as an auto plant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



News media chirp that "ALL IS WELL" even as our infrastructure collapses - with sewage floods during every rain storm...................


with scandalous exposure of the amount of TOXIC LEAD PIPE carrying our drinking water - with NO PLAN TO REMOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ontari-owe pays the just about the HIGHEST ELECTRICAL RATES IN NORTH AMERICA - courtesy of LIE-beral PRICE GOUGING



that was designed ONLY to GRAB GRAVY to throw at fabulously GREEDY CIVIL SERVICE UNION HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ontari-owe drivers pay the HIGHEST AUTO INSURANCE PREMIUMS IN ALL OF CANADA ................................


IN SPITE OF DEMONSTRATED PROOF THAT ONTARI-OWE HAS LESS ACCIDENTS..................................


THAN PEOPLE IN OTHER PROVINCES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There is so much laundered criminal money funneled into B.C. that it has completely distorted the real estate market there...........


and left condo corporations at the mercy of insurance company price gouging as the value of the real estate...............................


and the cost to replace it SOARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals tell us that insurance rates ARE SO HIGH IN ONTARI-OWE BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH CRIMINAL FRAUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But what are LIE-berals doing about insurance fraud and criminal money laundering???????????????


THE ANSWER OF COURSE IS NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


A very recent news report out of B.C. indicates that the LIE-beral provincial govt DISBANDED a special RCMP task force..............


whose job it was to hunt down and prosecute criminals laundering money at B.C. Casinos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals HAVE MADE THEIR CHOICES KNOWN TO US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals have decided that logic and order and sensible behaviour ARE NOT USEFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


TO THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
 
Blackleaf
#71
Racism isn’t to blame for Meghan Markle’s soaring unpopularity — her treatment of the Queen and taxpayer is

COMMENT
The Sun
16 Jan 2020

WHAT is it that leftie nitwits still cannot grasp as they blame racism for Meghan’s plight — and lazily defame the most *welcoming nation on Earth?

Skin colour has nothing to do with it. She and Harry broke the simple contract between the Royals and the public: We pay the money. They do their duty.

Racism isn't to blame for Meghan Markle's soaring unpopularity — her treatment of The Queen and taxpayer is, The Sun says

Many of those attacking our people and Press simply don’t understand the deal. This entitled pair want the lifestyle without the work.

And they have treated the Queen abysmally — as well as the taxpayers who bankrolled their lavish, *joyous wedding and their luxury home.

Meghan’s soaring unpopularity is down solely to that. She could shore it up, if she still cares, by admitting racism played no part.

There is no evidence it did. But then it suits her political soulmates to pretend there can be no *reasonable objection to her behaviour.

That may change once her case against the Mail on Sunday begins. It now seems her father was shabbily treated by this “woke” couple too.

And that Meghan’s pals used the dastardly Press to put out her own manicured version of the story. Indeed that seems to be all she thinks journalists exist to do: her PR.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/107500...ueen-taxpayer/
 
Blackleaf
#72



ROD LIDDLE Maybe in a year or two Prince Harry will wake up and think: Crikey, what have I done?


COMMENT
Rod Liddle
The Sun
16 Jan 2020

HER Majesty The Queen has agreed to give Harry and Meghan time to sort out the details of their famous “step back” from royal life.

But that should surely be a fairly simple matter. Harry and Meghan have said they wish to be “independent”. A lot of time has been spent working out how that independence can be achieved.

Well, here’s the thing. I have a cunning plan for the Sussexes as to how they might be “independent”.

What you need to do is get something called a “job”.

If you get one of those they give you money which you can use to buy things — a house, some Pot Noodles, a Hot Wheels car racing set — anything, really, within reason. Remarkable, isn’t it?

It probably wouldn’t pay for the £8million Canadian mansion Meghan is holed up in right now — but they can always ponce a few freebies off their mega-rich friends.

It might not quite cover the legal costs Meghan may incur from her upcoming court case. She’s suing a newspaper and her dad is set to testify AGAINST her.

You have to say she has a knack, this lass, of getting on the wrong side of quite a few people.

I think it’s fair to guess that the Royal Family are not entirely happy with her right now. So she’s hacked off her new family much as she’s hacked off her own one.

It’s no huge surprise they’re both heading off to “Canada” (or “Los Angeles” as it’s more familiarly known).

Meghan seems not to like the UK very much. She doesn’t spend much time in it and my suspicion is that the local people haven’t entirely taken to her.

We had a bit of time for Harry, once. He seemed an amiably thick rugger-bugger with a mischievous sense of humour. Not any more, sadly.

EXTORTIONATE SUM

He seems to spend half of his time crying. And he also seems to have swallowed whole the air-headed, ultra-woke, touchy-feely drivel his wife has imported from the United States.

Still, we were happy to spend an extortionate sum doing up their “cottage” with the most expensive materials money could buy. And we were delighted to see photographs of young Archie — once we were allowed to by madam.

For someone who dislikes the starchy formality of the Royal Family, Meghan displays quite a few airs and graces, doesn’t she?

Hates being photographed and gets her bullying minders to stop people taking snaps. Loves being photographed when she’s promoting herself or her vacuous ideas.

But hey, they love each other and that’s the important thing.

Let them move to Canada or LA, where they can jabber to each other about climate change and how everyone who doesn’t like her is racist, until the cows come home.

But let them do it entirely independently. No money from the Duchy of Cornwall Estate. No royal stipend. No security staff paid for by the taxpayers, either here or there.

Let them be truly independent, which is what they seem to wish for.

Maybe they’ll find it liberating. Or maybe in a year or two Prince Harry will wake up and think: Crikey, what have I done.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/107491...i-done-liddle/
 
spilledthebeer
#73
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Racism isn’t to blame for Meghan Markle’s soaring unpopularity — her treatment of the Queen and taxpayer is

COMMENT
The Sun
16 Jan 2020

WHAT is it that leftie nitwits still cannot grasp as they blame racism for Meghan’s plight — and lazily defame the most *welcoming nation on Earth?

Skin colour has nothing to do with it. She and Harry broke the simple contract between the Royals and the public: We pay the money. They do their duty.

Racism isn't to blame for Meghan Markle's soaring unpopularity — her treatment of The Queen and taxpayer is, The Sun says

Many of those attacking our people and Press simply don’t understand the deal. This entitled pair want the lifestyle without the work.

And they have treated the Queen abysmally — as well as the taxpayers who bankrolled their lavish, *joyous wedding and their luxury home.

Meghan’s soaring unpopularity is down solely to that. She could shore it up, if she still cares, by admitting racism played no part.

There is no evidence it did. But then it suits her political soulmates to pretend there can be no *reasonable objection to her behaviour.

That may change once her case against the Mail on Sunday begins. It now seems her father was shabbily treated by this “woke” couple too.

And that Meghan’s pals used the dastardly Press to put out her own manicured version of the story. Indeed that seems to be all she thinks journalists exist to do: her PR.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/107500...ueen-taxpayer/






NO THANKS TO YOU FOR THAT BIG BAG OF HORSESH+T YOU CALL COMMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Harry is THIRD IN LINE FOR THE THRONE...................................


and considering how long Prince Charles has waited for his throne place.......................


Harry simply IS NOT NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Not unless somebody gets whacked by the IRA or Mujahideen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Royal family life style is obviously hugely awkward for a young guy............................


Harry went through army training like a regular guy and thus demonstrated personal competence ..........................


that makes him to independent for conventional royal life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


After the messes that came with the personal lives of previous Royal generations........................


Prince Charles, Prince Edward, Princess Margaret, Prince William........................


it was pretty obvious that some CHANGES to the way Royal kids were raised WERE BADLY NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



So they got what they got what they wanted - a strong minded, decisive and stable minded Royal.............................


and now the LEFTIE PRESS is attacking him because of what he IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Lefties find it DEPLORABLE that a Royal family should exist in THEIR MODERN WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral lefties believe we would be better off with an ELECTED PRESIDENT - which LIE-berals ASSUME WILL BE CHOSEN.......


FROM AMONG THEIR RANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals also expect to STAFF THE NEW PRESIDENTIAL PALACE with hacks and flacks and fatr catchers of every description....


and ALL WILL BE SPECIALLY CHOSEN FROM THE RANKS OF CIVIL SERVICE UNION HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are trying to organize a POLITICAL REVOLUTION AND ANOTHER MAJOR GRAVY GRAB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HOW INSULTING TO LIE-BERALS THAT THEY HAVE NO SAY IN WHO THE ROYAL FAMILY HIRES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NOR DO THEY GET A SAY IN PAY RATES FOR ROYAL SERVANTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ALWAYS HYPOCRITE LIE-BERALS REGARD THE ROYALS AS BEING BIASED AGAINST THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
B00Mer
+2
#74
Today Trudeau offered to pay the 10 million yearly security bill.

Why not eh! It's only taxpayers money
 
DaSleeper
+2
#75
About the same as he gave a convicted terrorist!
 
DaSleeper
+2
#76
Maybe that's the cost of getting rid of Trudeau at the next election!


And maybe the Monarchy too!
 
Blackleaf
#77
Bong out of order

Rod Liddle
The Sun

THERE was a rather cheering plan to ring out the church bells across the land to mark our escape from the European Union at the end of the month.

But a bunch of bishops have said we shouldn’t do that because the bells should only be used to summon the faithful to worship.

With the greatest of respect, your reverend, b*****ks. You can tell it’s nothing to do with that by their comments.

One said: “Two thirds of the population never voted for Brexit in the first place. It’s deeply divisive to ring church bells for something like this.”

Yeah, Bish – we have a habit in this country of only counting the votes of people who voted, you mimsy frock-wearing halfwit.

Another said: “I think we should be ringing bells on February 1, not to celebrate Brexit but to call people together to pray for our nation at this critical time.”

Ah, go shove your bells up your cassock, you miserable Remoaner God-bothering bores.

Cheer him up

HERE is yet another Remoaner head case for you. Liberal Democrat peer Lord Greaves.

He has said he fears Britain will be reminiscent of Nazi Germany when we finally leave the European Union. Yup, that’s a sane and rational judgment, you bearded loon.

He added: “People are crying when they go to sleep at night and when they wake up in the morning, and all they get from the unfeeling, hard-headed Tories is moans.

“They are feeling a sense of loss which is akin to bereavement, and a grieving process has only just begun.

“In these circumstances, triumphalistic behaviour, festivals of Brexit and all the rest will simply make things worse.”

Who is crying? What bereavement process? What kind of drugs is Lord Greaves taking?

Let’s all go round to his gaff on January 31 with a few cans of Stella and try to cheer him up.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/107491...i-done-liddle/
 
Ron in Regina
+1
#78
I’m going to ramble here a bit. This couple wants their independence, and they want to divide their time and have residence’s in Canada & Britain. They also want to grow up and have financial independence, As we as we did we did at one point when we where becoming adults. I get it.
They want to swim with the “Woke” crowd with the Trudeau’s in the Mulroney’s in Canada, & perhaps find financial independence based upon their royalty status etc. with maybe speaking engagements & a tell all book or what have you. Perhaps some kind of a charitable foundation that they can manage kind of like the Clinton Foundation??

I wonder what Greta Thunberg thinks that this? They want to live on two continents (?) & split their time between these two places? “How dare they!!” are they going to commute back-and-forth between residences in their steam powered Areoplane (?) or carbon fibre canoe to minimize their carbon footprint in a do as I do, not as I say, at least by example sort’a way (?) or are they going to make their money by preaching that the rest of us should minimize our carbon footprint’s while they commute back-and-forth between residences on different sides of the Atlantic??

Is anybody else predicting something woke and enlightening along these lines to lead to their financial independence??


Well, I dreamt I went away
On a steam powered aereoplane
I went and I stayed and
I damm near didn't come back again

And I didn't go very fast
On a steam powered areoplane
Oh, the wheel went around and up and down
And inside and then back again

Sittin' on a 747 just a watchin' them clouds roll by
Can't tell if it's sunshine or if it's rain, rain, rain
Rather be a sittin' in a deck chair high up over Kansas City
On a genuine ol' fashioned authentic steam powered aereoplane

Well I'd like ot be a pilot
of that steam powered aereoplane
Well, I'd pull that pilot wheel around
and then back again

And I'd wear a blue hat, yeah
That says 'steam powered aereoplane'
In…
Last edited by Ron in Regina; Jan 18th, 2020 at 08:45 AM..Reason: spacing
 
petros
+2
#79
Why stay in the UK? Canada was founded on fleeing England.
 
Blackleaf
#80
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

I agree. From what I can tell.....Most of this falls on Megahan.........but Harry is complicit too. Personally I don't think that relationship will last.

Yes.Will and Kate seem to do everything right........and effortlessly. Both are very classy sophisticated people......and seem to be doing a great job raising their kids. ...........

IMHO....... if they want financial independence........then they should be cut of all the money they are getting from Charles and their other source. Stripping them of the HRH title might be an option too.........as they can't use that status in their earning ability.

Well they say they want independence and no longer be full members of the Royal Family - but they don't want financial independence.
 
Blackleaf
#81
JANE MOORE Let’s not pretend Meghan Markle has been pitchforked off Britain by racists

Comment
Jane Moore
14 Jan 2020

IF you fancy a guilty pleasure, check out 90 Day Fiance on TLC.

It follows the fortunes, or rather, misfortunes, of Americans who fall in love with foreigners and have just over three months to get married or send them home.


Let's not pretend Meghan Markle has been pitchforked off Britain by racists Credit: Getty - Contributor

A massive leap of faith, it’s usually a matter of days — sometimes hours — before the clash of cultures, personalities, values and expectations make this the television gift that keeps on giving.

Perhaps Meghan and Harry should sign up for season eight. For how much did they really know about each other before walking down the aisle?

Prince William apparently advised his more impetuous brother to wait so he could really get to know his American bride first, but Harry took umbrage and didn’t listen.

Perhaps if he had, he might have worked out in advance that an independent spirit joining such a restrictive institution wasn’t going to end well.

Instead, they leapt before they looked and, with the “19-month bride” having packed her bags already, have saddled the 93-year-old Queen with yet another constitutional crisis.

Back in 2017, I wrote a piece defending Meghan after she was criticised by old school friend Ninaki Priddy for being “calculated in the way she handled people and relationships” and a “curator of a beautiful life”.

But following the lavish baby shower, the jet-setting with A-listers and the swift jettisoning of inconveniently outspoken family members, the latter sentiment now rings true.

And, of course, becoming a member of the most famous royal family in the world was the cherry on the top of that beautiful life.

GENUINELY SICK

But Meghan soon discovered it was nothing like the membership of her beloved Soho House.

The rooms are draughty, the decor chintzy and, instead of reading the morning papers in your cashmere loungewear, you have to rise early, put on a frock and make your way to some rain-lashed outpost to open the new wing of a community centre where “live your best life” sentiments, however well-meaning, aren’t required.

Here’s what is required as a member of the British Royal Family: Turn up on time, shake hands, smile, say little more than “have you come far?” Repeat.

Not because the royals don’t have anything to say. They do, and air their views in private.

But in public, their job is to shine a light on whatever project they’re visiting, not themselves. To show — via action, not virtue-signalling statements — a strong sense of duty.

And in return they get to keep their various mansions, hundreds of staff, personal bodyguards etc without any whiff of civil unrest.
That’s the deal.

But those still in Meghan’s social circle glowingly describe her as organised, focused, and opinionated — very much an independent woman used to having her voice heard.

As Prince Harry told courtiers just before their wedding: “What Meghan wants, Meghan gets.”

An admirable quality when it comes to breaking through the glass ceiling of corporate life or securing the best table in the best restaurant, perhaps.


Meghan was criticised by old school friend Ninaki Priddy Credit: Getty - Contributor


But the monarchy is an institution steeped in hundreds of years of tradition, and Meghan — who claimed she “didn’t know much” about Harry when they first met — clearly thought she’d mould it to her way of thinking . . . then rapidly discovered that it ain’t for turning.

Not that The Queen didn’t try very hard to accommodate the wants and needs of the newly anointed Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

Contrary to royal tradition, they were permitted to keep the christening of baby Archie as a private affair and, despite there being a perfectly nice home at Kensington Palace they could have used, a publicly funded, £2.4million renovation of Frogmore Cottage was authorised.

A “cottage” I might add, that used to be five homes but has now been knocked in to one because they managed to dodge the usual ban that prevents such moves because of the UK’s housing crisis.

Shortly after, Prince Charles launched his blueprint to try to solve the dilemma faced by millions of young people struggling to find a home of their own. Oh the irony. And after all that, they now want to use it part-time as they flit back and forth across the Atlantic.

Meghan is feeling disillusioned and homesick. We get it, and sympathise.

But let’s not pretend, as some claim, that she’s been practically pitchforked off this island by racist bigots.

This is not a racist country and, besides, the British public initially greeted her engagement and later marriage to Harry with unbridled joy.

We love Harry. He’s a thoroughly decent person and deserves particular praise for the work he’s done with the Armed Forces, both while serving and afterwards.

No, the disconnect has come from the fact that Meghan is still a Hollywood celebrity at heart and, consequently, never truly settled in her often boring and restrictive new role.

LAVISH LIFE

She misses the relative freedom of her old life, not to mention her family and friends.

Again, we get it. But was it really necessary to flee these shores as if escaping for her life?

Clearly besotted with her, Harry faces the stark decision of giving her what she wants or losing her for ever. Or perhaps he’s genuinely sick of royal life and wants out too.

If so, let’s wave goodbye and wish them luck.

But. The have-cake-and-eat-it plan to stop being a “senior royal” and just dip in and out of duties that suit them simply isn’t going to work.

SussexRoyal — which Harry and Meghan have registered as an official trademark for everything from “emotional support services” to clothing and magazines — is a title and privilege that comes with duties and conditions attached, not a brand, be it charitable or otherwise.

The future of the monarchy depends on the goodwill, support and interest level of the public, and a recent survey showed that, while the majority have no issue with their decision to go, they were strongly against any continued taxpayer funding of their lavish lifestyle.

So if — as early indicators go — The Queen allows Harry and Meghan to call the shots while keeping their royal titles, their taxpayer-funded security and an allowance from the Duchy of Cornwall, then one suspects this will be discussed by students for centuries to come as the turning point at which the British monarchy began its steady decline to irrelevance and, ultimately, abolition.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/107404...forked-off-uk/
 
Blackleaf
#82
DAN WOOTTON Meghan and Harry’s pals are toeing the line by attacking the monarchy in the press

Comment
Dan Wootton, Executive Editor
16 Jan 2020
The Sun

ON Monday the Queen made a historic capitulation to the two most selfish members of the Royal Family.

How was she repaid for such a personally devastating decision? A respectful public silence, you would imagine.

Friends of Meghan and Harry branded the monarchy toxic in a press attack on Tuesday Credit: Getty - Contributor

Ha, don’t be ridiculous! This is petty Prince Harry and duplicitous Meghan we are talking about.

So on Tuesday morning, the Monarch woke up to yet another blistering attack on her institution as “toxic” by friends of these professional victims in People magazine.

This was, after all, Meghan’s fave celeb mag where five of her closest pals had earlier revealed details of a letter she sent to her father Thomas Markle, almost certainly with her permission.

Was the latest attack in People approved by Meghan directly? I can’t prove that but I have my suspicions.

Meghan is famous for dropping people – including her own family members – for even the smallest indiscretion Credit: AFP or licensors

Her friends are so terrified of being ghosted by a woman famous for dropping people – including her own family members – for even the smallest indiscretion that it’s very unlikely they’re going to go rogue during such an important week.

Prince Charles needs to man up and take some responsibility for this mess too. For the past few years, he’s become increasingly jealous of the star power of his two sons and moaned about the media attention they receive.

That meant when the Prince of Wales needed to step in and calm such a sensitive situation, Harry and Meghan didn’t trust him.

So where to now? My analysis is that the Sussexes will get virtually everything they wanted. They’ll keep the funding from Charles.

They’ll keep the Frogmore mansion. They’ll probably even keep their HRH titles.

All while being able to sell themselves and the Sussex Royal brand to the highest bidder.

The only responsible course of action is for Harry and Meghan to realise they must relinquish their HRH titles and take no money from the public or Prince Charles. The chances of that?

As likely as Meghan giving up on her penchant for allowing her friends to slag off her two families in People magazine.

Meghan's closest pals previously revealed details of a letter she sent to her father Thomas Markle in People Credit: Splash News

Harry and Meghan nned to realise they must relinquish their HRH titles and take no money from the public or Prince Charles.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/107561...press-attacks/


Orf you pop

IF Harry and Meghan have now moved away for good we wish them the best.

So long as they relinquish their titles, all handouts from the Duchy of Cornwall and Sovereign Grant, and refund £2.4million the public lavished on the house they abandoned in nine months.

The public happily paid £32million for Harry and Meghan's national celebration of a wedding Credit: Getty - Contributor

We are sorry Meghan found her “soul crushed” by Royal life so soon after she enthusiastically married into it.

And that she found Britain insufficiently welcoming despite her joyous national celebration of a wedding, for which the public happily paid £32million and to which a besotted Press devoted entire editions.

It is odd if Harry failed to warn her what she might expect, but there we are.

Happy mansion hunting, Mr and Mrs Wales!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/107661...-outside-no10/
 
Blackleaf
#83
Coffee House

What Meghan’s new fans like to ignore

Ross Clark




Ross Clark
14 January 2020
The Spectator

What would it take to convert Afua Hirsch to the cause of capitalism? We now know the answer because the Guardian columnist has enthusiastically backed the Duke and Duchess of Sussex as the couple seek ‘financial independence’, by such means as registering the trademark ‘Sussex Royal’.

As for those who have criticised the Duke and Duchess for doing this? According to Hirsch, writing in the New York Times:
“…by taking matters into their own hands, Harry and Meghan’s act of leaving — two fingers up at the racism of the British establishment — might be the most meaningful act of royal leadership I’m ever likely to see”.
The charge of racism made against those who have been critical of the Sussexes since their announcement last Wednesday is offensive and wrong.

Until recently the pair were especially popular members of the royal family. Their wedding in 2018 was widely praised for being less stuffy than previous such occasions. ‘Progressive’ values were enthusiastically received when they amounted to having a evangelical sermon or having a less formal attitude to public engagements.

That the Sussexes are now being criticised has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the Duchess’ family heritage. It has everything to do with what the public sees as the pair turning their backs on Britain and the Royal Family in order to live jet-setting celebrity lifestyles which will exploit their royal roles, building personal fortunes on the back of their constitutional roles.
Do those on the left really want to defend that?

They didn’t want to defend it when Tony Blair set up his company to exploit the connections he made while prime minister and use them to earn huge fees advising foreign governments. It didn’t want to defend it in the 1990s when Tory MPs were found to be pocketing fees for asking questions in the Commons. It didn’t want to defend it when George Osborne landed his six plum jobs, among them advising fund managers, on the back of his career as chancellor.

Nor do I think the left would be terribly impressed if Boris Johnson started flogging personally-branded mugs, charged for after-dinner speeches while he is Prime Minister or launched a range of hair-styling products (although in the latter case maybe the potential customers wouldn’t be that impressed either). But so desperate are people like Hirsch to prove that Britain is a country stuffed with vile racists that they will end up in all kinds of philosophical contortions.

The narrative that Meghan Markle is a victim of an establishment plot is so important to the likes of Hirsch that Markle could do virtually anything – bite the head off the Queen, maybe – and still they would have to support her.

I just wish the hard left’s conversion to capitalism was inspired by activities which are a little more entrepreneurial than exploiting one’s royal brand.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2020/0...ike-to-ignore/
 
taxslave
#84
Ho Hum.
 
Serryah
#85
So Harry and Meghan won't use royal titles, and they'll be paying back the money used to redo their home in the UK.


Interesting...


Personally I hope they do as much as they can to be as independent as they can be. Their family is still their family and even if they don't use the titles, they're still 'Royals' and some things do need to be considered with that, but otherwise...


Eh, who cares, leave them alone to do whatever, and bugger what the UK press feels about either of them.
 
NZDoug
#86
Once the Queen goes, sad is it will be, the rest of the British monarchy will fade into more of a cheap tourism stunt.
All this stuff will fade into oblivion, like the rest of us.
 
spilledthebeer
#87
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

Today Trudeau offered to pay the 10 million yearly security bill.

Why not eh! It's only taxpayers money




Well............................IT DOES PROVIDE GOOD JOBS FOR CDNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Aint that what LIE-berals are all about????????????????????????


BUYING GOOD JOBS WITH BORROWED GRAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!


AS I have said - we CAN TURN THIS TO OUR ADVANTAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our current Governor General - that bored former astronaut does not seem to have her heart in the job...........................


so appoint HARRY AS Governor General!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I am sure that the post of G.G. DOES ALREADY HAVE A SECURITY DETAIL IN PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And it will give Harry some income!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And he can become a useful tourist attraction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Though it might be an issue if Meghan went bac kto acting and made more money than HARRY?????????????????


OR NOT.....................he is a trained soldier AND MIGHT FIND EMPLOYMENT with our army????????????????


British military training involves exposure to an array of modern weapons that Cdns can only dream of.........................


our guys could get a good education by listening to Harry tell about stuff that other armies possess????????????????
 
Ocean Breeze
#88
Now that the Queen has made a statement about how this might work. .......can't help but wonder what Harry really feels...........He might feel a sense of victory for him and Meghan at teh moment.........but thereality of "independant " life will not hit them immediately.
Some components of the arrangement:

They cannot use HRH......
They will not receive public funds.
They will repay the money spent on refurbishing Frogmore House. Which will remain their London home

The situation will be re evaluated in one years time.

So it comes down.........what can Harry do that would translate into a wage earning job?? Megah;n might opt into resuming her acting career...... She now has a high profile name.........but not sure about her acting skills.

There is no adjustment for Meghan in this ......but Harry is moving into a world reality not familiar to him...........It will be a major adjustment for him....... and losses too. He is vulnerable as a personality...........and has been prone to depression. Prognosis for this relationship is guarded at best.
 
AnnaEmber
#89
Can't blame em for not wanting the crap and periphery. FFS, QE2 even has a special guy that just cuts the meat on her plate for her (it's his only job). It's absolutely ludicrous.
 
Blackleaf
+1
#90
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

Now that the Queen has made a statement about how this might work. .......can't help but wonder what Harry really feels...........He might feel a sense of victory for him and Meghan at teh moment.........but thereality of "independant " life will not hit them immediately.
Some components of the arrangement:
They cannot use HRH......
They will not receive public funds.
They will repay the money spent on refurbishing Frogmore House. Which will remain their London home
The situation will be re evaluated in one years time.
So it comes down.........what can Harry do that would translate into a wage earning job?? Megah;n might opt into resuming her acting career...... She now has a high profile name.........but not sure about her acting skills.
There is no adjustment for Meghan in this ......but Harry is moving into a world reality not familiar to him...........It will be a major adjustment for him....... and losses too. He is vulnerable as a personality...........and has been prone to depression. Prognosis for this relationship is guarded at best.

I saw a clip on the internet of Harry chatting to some Disney bigwig, trying to persuade him to give Meghan a voice part in an upcoming Disney movie, but he didn't seem that interested.

I don't know what's going to happen but Harry should have listened to his big brother's advice and got to know Meghan better first before marrying her. As for her, she seems out of her depth marrying into the Royal Family. I don't think she knew what she was getting herself into. This is unlike Catherine, who was prepped by the wiser William and even her family before they married.

Just to point out, Frogmore Cottage is in Windsor, Berkshire, to the west of London. It was built in 1801 on the direction of Queen Charlotte, George III's wife and Harry's great-great-great-great-great-great-grandmother.

The cottage was originally known as Double Garden Cottage, but took its current name from when Queen Victoria (George III's and Charlotte's granddaughter) had breakfast at the cottage on 28th June 1875 and noted an "immense number of little frogs" which she found "quite disgusting".