Irexit: New Irish political party aims to take Ireland out of the EU


Blackleaf
#1
A new political party has been launched in Ireland which aims to take the country out of the EU in the wake of Brexit.

Irexit Freedom is campaigning on the platform of quitting Europe and maintaining close ties with the UK...

IREXIT NEXT? Irish Eurosceptics launch new political party bidding to take country out of the EU

Irexit Freedom is set to launch this weekend on a platform of the Republic of Ireland leaving the EU

By Hugo Gye
3rd September 2018
The Sun

A NEW political party has been launched in Ireland which aims to take the country out of the EU in the wake of Brexit.

Irexit Freedom is campaigning on the platform of quitting Europe and maintaining close ties with the UK.


Ireland's PM Leo Varadkar is strongly pro-European

The party will launch this weekend in a bid to build momentum behind the Irexit movement.

It is led by a university professor, an ex-ambassador and the spokesman for Nigel Farage's group in the European Parliament.

The group insist that Irexit is the best way to cope with the potential problems of Brexit - such as the possibility of a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic.

They say the UK and Ireland should form their own free-trade and customs zone separate to the EU arrangements.


Hermann Kelly is one of the leading figures in Irexit Freedom

And they also argue that Ireland will lose its traditional neutral stance in military matters as a result of being involved in the European army.

Hermann Kelly, who works for Mr Farage's Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy in Brussels, says casting off EU supervision will be similar to when Ireland gained independence from Britain.

And he told the Irish Sun the EU had taken out €200billion worth of fish from Irish waters.



Nearly all mainstream politicians in Ireland are passionately pro-EU and PM Leo Varadkar has encouraged Brussels to take a hard line in Brexit talks.

But some voters want the country to prioritise its relationship with Britain over ties to to the continent.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/716615...out-of-the-eu/
 
MHz
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#2  Top Rated Post
It appears a vote doesn't mean anything, Scotland should take another run at it.
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#3
By "Hug o'Guy" Haha.


...and NO, votes only count when the globalists get their way.
 
Blackleaf
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

It appears a vote doesn't mean anything, Scotland should take another run at it.

Interesting to note that a third of SNP voters voted Leave.

Of course, it is that third who are the REAL Scottish nationalists, unlike the Remain supporting ones.
 
Bar Sinister
No Party Affiliation
#5
Reminds me a lot of the Western Canada Concept; a bunch of dimwits who wanted to take Western Canada out of Confederation. They are extinct now.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#6
Fortunately, the Irish aren't as stupid as the Brits. Or as terrified.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Fortunately, the Irish aren't as stupid as the Brits. Or as terrified.

If they stay in the EU they'd certainly live up to the thick Paddies stereotype.
 
White_Unifier
#8
If the Irish ever have an Irexit referendum, let's just hope the referendum options are more competently worded as to avoid too much ambiguity as to what the nebulous 'leave' option would mean.
 
White_Unifier
#9
If I were writing it, I'd probably write the leave option as:

'Adopt unilateral free trade within the next seventy years.'

this would allow the government to draft a lonog-term irexit plan. That way, the government could negotiate a soft Irexit with the idea tht future governments could negotiate gradually harder Irexits over time.

The EU, not wanting to put up with renegotiating every few years would probably prefer to agree to a long-term gradual hard Irexit since the stability that would provide would be in the EU's interest too if Irexit must happen.

It would also clarify to the Irish voters what would replace Irexit. That way, they'd have at least a vague understanding of what they are voting for. Heck,even Farage had no clue what was to replace Brexit!
 
Bar Sinister
No Party Affiliation
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

If they stay in the EU they'd certainly live up to the thick Paddies stereotype.


Right, the Irish are so thick that they would willingly give up the numerous EU subsidies the country receives. After the incredible Brexit fiasco they would have to be almost brain dead to vote to leave.
 
Blackleaf
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#11
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

If the Irish ever have an Irexit referendum, let's just hope the referendum options are more competently worded as to avoid too much ambiguity as to what the nebulous 'leave' option would mean.

There was nothing nebulous about the Leave vote - 17,410,942 people voted to Leave the EU. It really is as simple as that.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

If I were writing it, I'd probably write the leave option as:

'Adopt unilateral free trade within the next seventy years.'

this would allow the government to draft a lonog-term irexit plan. That way, the government could negotiate a soft Irexit with the idea tht future governments could negotiate gradually harder Irexits over time.

The EU, not wanting to put up with renegotiating every few years would probably prefer to agree to a long-term gradual hard Irexit since the stability that would provide would be in the EU's interest too if Irexit must happen.

It would also clarify to the Irish voters what would replace Irexit. That way, they'd have at least a vague understanding of what they are voting for. Heck,even Farage had no clue what was to replace Brexit!

I don't see the point in leaving an organisation because you no longer want to be a part of it because it is corrupt and economically sclerotic and damaging your economy and fishing industry and it is become more federalist and taking away more and more of your sovereignty away each year only to have that leaving dragged out over years and years in a gradual process. You need to get out quickly.
 
White_Unifier
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

I don't see the point in leaving an organisation because you no longer want to be a part of it because it is corrupt and economically sclerotic and damaging your economy and fishing industry and it is become more federalist and taking away more and more of your sovereignty away each year only to have that leaving dragged out over years and years in a gradual process. You need to get out quickly.

Do you realize how long it can take for a complex business organization to adapt to rapidly-changing economic policy?

Also, seeing how Brexit's been going lately, maybe a gradual evolutionary process would bring more results than deadlock caused by an irrational insistence on revolutionary change, wouldn't you think?
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

Do you realize how long it can take for a complex business organization to adapt to rapidly-changing economic policy?

Also, seeing how Brexit's been going lately, maybe a gradual evolutionary process would bring more results than deadlock caused by an irrational insistence on revolutionary change, wouldn't you think?

Maybe Canada should come under British rule again considering how much you disagree with a country becoming independent and sovereign.
 
Blackleaf
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

Do you realize how long it can take for a complex business organization to adapt to rapidly-changing economic policy?

Also, seeing how Brexit's been going lately, maybe a gradual evolutionary process would bring more results than deadlock caused by an irrational insistence on revolutionary change, wouldn't you think?

Maybe Canada should come under British rule again considering how much you disagree with a country becoming independent and sovereign.
 
White_Unifier
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Maybe Canada should come under British rule again considering how much you disagree with a country becoming independent and sovereign.

To be honest, while I would oppose British rule in Canada, I would support Canada and the UK sharing a common citizenship.
 
Bar Sinister
No Party Affiliation
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Maybe Canada should come under British rule again considering how much you disagree with a country becoming independent and sovereign.


Considering how poorly Britain has been governed in the last few years I doubt anyone would support that. And your reply makes no sense in any case.
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#18
Possibly just not to people who have trouble making sense.

WE have seen how the globalists operate....no one should accept such UNDEMOCRATIC crooked tyranny.
 
Blackleaf
#19
Exiting the EU cult

Patrick West
Columnist

The EU is terrified that other member states will follow Britain.

14 September 2018
250 comments
Spiked



Whatever comes to pass at the conclusion of the Brexit talks, the absolute priority is that Britain must leave the European Union, or at least get a deal that will allow it to push further for total separation. It is not just because the EU is in a moribund state and destined to disintegrate, as has been the fate of all multilingual, multinational states, from Austria-Hungary to Czechoslovakia, the USSR and Yugoslavia. It is not just because of the EU’s democratic deficit or its economic protectionism. It is more serious than that. The UK must leave the EU because the organisation is becoming a cult.

You might think I exaggerate. But consider the words of Guy Verhofstadt, the European Parliament’s representative in the Brexit negotiations, earlier this week. The MEP who supports a United States of Europe boasted in a French newspaper that the tortuous process of Brexit has become a cautionary tale about the perils of Euroscepticism. While Brexit ‘illustrates the populist wave’, he told Ouest France, ‘it has also provoked a renewed affection for the EU’. ‘In Denmark, polls clearly say that people do not want to jump ship any more. We see the difficulties, the chaos created by Great Britain’s exit.’ And here’s the clincher: ‘Even the populists do not dare to say that they want to leave the EU… We see a change in their language. They all wanted to get out… and now they are staying.’ Pro-Europeans should ‘seize upon this opportunity’, he said.

We all know that the EU has taken a punitive and prohibitive line with Britain because it is terrified of other countries following our example. The leaders of an organisation don’t want its members to leave and so will do anything to prevent this happening. This means making an example to those who are thinking of doing so. This is one of the classic hallmarks of a cult.

The leaders of this cult like the alleged drunkard Jean-Claude Juncker have been able to get away with their autocratic behaviour because they are unelected and therefore unaccountable. They respond to dissent with threats and bullying. As Italy’s deputy prime minister, Luigi Di Maio, said at the weekend, the EU ‘has not learnt the lessons of Brexit’. Pre-Brexit, the EU’s attitude was ‘full of suspicion and arrogance’ towards anyone who considered voting Leave. And after the referendum, ‘nothing has changed’, he said. The unaccountability of the EU’s leaders explains its detachment from reality.

The Brexit vote is but the beginning. The rumblings of discontent in Hungary, Italy, Greece, and the rise of right-wing parties in Germany, Austria and Sweden, are all a response to the tyranny of this mad cult. The EU will undoubtedly respond with more diktats. And this will seal its fate.

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite...3#.W54xakYYFdc
 
Bar Sinister
No Party Affiliation
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Exiting the EU cult

Patrick West
Columnist

The EU is terrified that other member states will follow Britain.

14 September 2018
250 comments
Spiked



Whatever comes to pass at the conclusion of the Brexit talks, the absolute priority is that Britain must leave the European Union, or at least get a deal that will allow it to push further for total separation. It is not just because the EU is in a moribund state and destined to disintegrate, as has been the fate of all multilingual, multinational states, from Austria-Hungary to Czechoslovakia, the USSR and Yugoslavia. It is not just because of the EU’s democratic deficit or its economic protectionism. It is more serious than that. The UK must leave the EU because the organisation is becoming a cult.

You might think I exaggerate. But consider the words of Guy Verhofstadt, the European Parliament’s representative in the Brexit negotiations, earlier this week. The MEP who supports a United States of Europe boasted in a French newspaper that the tortuous process of Brexit has become a cautionary tale about the perils of Euroscepticism. While Brexit ‘illustrates the populist wave’, he told Ouest France, ‘it has also provoked a renewed affection for the EU’. ‘In Denmark, polls clearly say that people do not want to jump ship any more. We see the difficulties, the chaos created by Great Britain’s exit.’ And here’s the clincher: ‘Even the populists do not dare to say that they want to leave the EU… We see a change in their language. They all wanted to get out… and now they are staying.’ Pro-Europeans should ‘seize upon this opportunity’, he said.

We all know that the EU has taken a punitive and prohibitive line with Britain because it is terrified of other countries following our example. The leaders of an organisation don’t want its members to leave and so will do anything to prevent this happening. This means making an example to those who are thinking of doing so. This is one of the classic hallmarks of a cult.

The leaders of this cult like the alleged drunkard Jean-Claude Juncker have been able to get away with their autocratic behaviour because they are unelected and therefore unaccountable. They respond to dissent with threats and bullying. As Italy’s deputy prime minister, Luigi Di Maio, said at the weekend, the EU ‘has not learnt the lessons of Brexit’. Pre-Brexit, the EU’s attitude was ‘full of suspicion and arrogance’ towards anyone who considered voting Leave. And after the referendum, ‘nothing has changed’, he said. The unaccountability of the EU’s leaders explains its detachment from reality.

The Brexit vote is but the beginning. The rumblings of discontent in Hungary, Italy, Greece, and the rise of right-wing parties in Germany, Austria and Sweden, are all a response to the tyranny of this mad cult. The EU will undoubtedly respond with more diktats. And this will seal its fate.

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite...3#.W54xakYYFdc




I's say the writer of that article spent too much time with his head stuffed up his bum.
 
Said1
Free Thinker
#21
Remember when everyone was afraid of the EU "OMG one world government....part of the new world order" lol Of course it was going to fall apart. Stupid idea for the most part.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

If they stay in the EU they'd certainly live up to the thick Paddies stereotype.

Yeah. Ireland is more free and prosperous than it's been since St. Patrick. I understand that you want them to be poor and miserable again, but why would they go for it?
 
Bar Sinister
No Party Affiliation
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by Said1 View Post

Remember when everyone was afraid of the EU "OMG one world government....part of the new world order" lol Of course it was going to fall apart. Stupid idea for the most part.




Yes - like the United States. That didn't work out very well did it?
 
Said1
Free Thinker
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

Yes - like the United States. That didn't work out very well did it?


They had a good run.
 

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