ISIS threatens to kill British jihadists who want to go home


B00Mer
#1
ISIS threatens to kill British jihadists who want to go home



Many British jihadists who travelled to Syria and Iraq and became embroiled with the Islamic State (IS) now want to return home but have been threatened with death by senior figures in IS, The Observer reported.

The newspaper has cited a source, who “has extensive contacts among Syrian rebel groups,” as saying that dozens of British men in Syria and Iraq wanted to return home but were in effect being held against their will by Islamic State.

“There are Britons, who, upon wanting to leave have been threatened with death, either directly or indirectly,” the source said.

Former Guantanamo Bay detainee Moazzam Begg told The Observer that he knew of at least 30 people who had gone over to fight Assad but had become involved with IS, many for language reasons, as IS has more English speakers in its ranks.

“When it becomes solidified as an Islamic State, a caliph, and you swear allegiance, thereafter if you do something disobedient you are now disobeying the caliph and could be subject to disciplinary measures which could include threats or death,” said Begg.



Begg has called on the UK government to introduce an amnesty for jihadists and to set up rehabilitation programs, like in Denmark, which help young men coming back to get their lives back on track without being prosecuted. Some members of the British government, have however, suggested that returning British jihadists should instead be tried for treason.

Begg, as well as spending years in Guantanamo, has also spent seven months in Belmarsh prison after being arrested for a trip he made to Syria in 2013. Begg was released earlier this month after it emerged secret intelligence material had been withheld from police, suggesting a strong possibility he has been in contact with MI5 about his Syria trips.

Begg is outreach director for Cage, an independent human rights organization which campaigns against the so-called War on Terror, and says a lot of Britons who went out to fight in Syria and Iraq are “between a rock and a hard place”.

“Some of the guys I met in Belmarsh had gone to Syria to help in a humanitarian defensive role, stayed for a few weeks and, crucially, didn’t want to get involved with the infighting between rebel groups yet the British government imprisoned them. If you come back because of the infighting it means you are not ideologically attached to groups like Isis,” he said.

Brainwashed kids or committed fighters?
It was revealed Friday that a fourth young British Muslim from the south coast town of Portsmouth has been killed in Syria, from a group of six men who called themselves the “Pompey lads” who left the UK to fight for ISIS.

It is believed that Mohammad Medhi Hassan, 19, was killed in fighting to try and capture the border town of Kobani, which Kurdish fighters have refused to surrender.

Last Tuesday it was confirmed that another of the “Pompey lads”, 24 year old Manunur Roshid, had also been killed on the Syrian front line, most probably in Kobani. Of the six men who left Portsmouth to fight jihad in Syria, four are dead and one is prison.

Recently Hassan had phoned his mother and had tried to escape across the border to meet up with her in Turkey, The Daily Mail reports. He got within just a few kilometers of the Turkish border town of Urfa when he was reportedly recaptured by ISIS fighters who imprisoned him and threatened him with death should he try it again.

Hassan was not a typical disgruntled and ostracized youth, he attended an expensive private school in Portsmouth and was due to study international politics at Surrey University, before travelling to Syria over a year ago.

An estimated 500 British Muslims have already gone to Syria and Iraq. Of them, 24 are already believed to have died, according to King’s College London’s International Centre for the Study of Radicalization (ICSR).

Earlier this week, Sir Bernard Hogan Howe, the Metropolitan Police Chief Commissioner warned that at least five Britons were joining ISIS every week.

“Those are the minimum. Those are the ones we believe have gone. There may be many more who set out to travel to another country in a way that’s not always possible to spot when you have failed states and leaky borders,” he said, as quoted by the British media.

source: ISIS threatens to kill British jihadists who want to go home - report ? RT UK
 
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bill barilko
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You can check out any time you like.....but you can never leave.
 
Mowich
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#3
Be nice to know just what they did while they were there.
 
Sal
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#4
surprise!
 
bill barilko
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mowich View Post

Be nice to know just what they did while they were there.

My guess is the briddish spy service has a pretty good idea who did what and with whom-coins loosen lips.
 
taxslave
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#6
Looks like a win win to me.
 
taxslave
+3
#7
Looks like a win win to me.
 
relic
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#8
So, they don't have a good buy out deal OR a pension plan.
 
B00Mer
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#9
 
damngrumpy
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The thing is we can exploit this let some come home and use them as a
window into the enemy let them kill a few as well that way the infighting
begins and the ISIS movement may turn on itself But don't let too many
come home
 
Praxius
+5
#11
.... and we care about their problems..... why?

Leave them there with the ISIS. Maybe then others will start having second thoughts of joining them when they realize that their home countries won't bail them out and give them a pat on the azz when things get tough.

It'll also prevent these clowns coming back into our nations whom could still be devoted to ISIS and end up committing an attack.
 
grainfedpraiboy
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#12
I'd love the story to be true and for my money, you just can't get enough Muslim extremists killing one another. However, this has a whiff of propaganda to it as a way of sowing doubt in the the minds of Muslims in Britain and trying to influence fence sitters as to whether they should go or not.
 
MHz
#13
Luckily MI6 will come up with a plan the gives them a task and ISIS will appreciate all the shopping spots they bring to the table.

Now you want ISIS hacking Brits to bits but a few weeks ago you were all in tears over a Brit whacking heads off. No really mentally stable are you? (rhetorical question)
 
WLDB
+5
#14
No one likes a deserter.
 
MHz
#15
That isn't how it works. The Brits who went to join did join and their mission is go go back to the UK as 'sleepers' and the way to get them back is is to put out some media releases saying what danger they are in from 'the real ISIS' and they get a fac=st track home if they promise to 'mend their ways'. They start by giving all the 'details of their trip' that they have memorized.
 
Praxius
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#16
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

That isn't how it works. The Brits who went to join did join and their mission is go go back to the UK as 'sleepers' and the way to get them back is is to put out some media releases saying what danger they are in from 'the real ISIS' and they get a fac=st track home if they promise to 'mend their ways'. They start by giving all the 'details of their trip' that they have memorized.

Yes, that will surely excuse all the beheadings, tortures, selling of women and children, killings, recruitments, etc. that they were either directly involved with, or otherwise supported while in the ranks of the ISIS.

"I changed my mind about the ISIS and want to go home now.... I miss my reality TV shows and missing out on the iPhone 6. I'll tell you the tales of what I did while working for the ISIS and we can forget all of it like nothing happened."

At the worst, they're murderous traitors to the nations they want to run back to.

At the least, they're collaborators.

If these sorts of things were so easily forgiven, then why is the world still trying to hunt down and execute 97 year old men who were teenagers who locked the door at night at concentration camps? They were Nazis who helped facilitate the genocide of many during WWII.... and even if they came forward to tell their stories, do you think they'd get the same treatment as these ISIS supporters who lost their stomach to the slaying and beheading of thousands of innocent people in the name of the Caliphate?

Fk'em all.

Sure, let them send these so-called "Sleepers" who say they turned a new leaf and want to come give us all a hug.... then we can easily round them up at the border and put a bullet in their heads.

Saves us having to hunt them down in the middle of a desert.
 
bill barilko
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Quote: Originally Posted by grainfedpraiboy View Post

....this has a whiff of propaganda to it as a way of sowing doubt in the the minds of Muslims in Britain and trying to influence fence sitters as to whether they should go or not.

Yes that's part of the battle but it's also true that the only leverage ISIS has with these people is their own lives-in ME countries they can threaten the fighter's families-and I'm sure they do.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mowich View Post

Be nice to know just what they did while they were there.

Drugs
 
MHz
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by Praxius View Post

Saves us having to hunt them down in the middle of a desert.

You do know the one hacking off the head was from the UK and not the Mid-East Right?
 
Tecumsehsbones
#20
Well, desertion is a death-penalty offence.
 
Praxius
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

You do know the one hacking off the head was from the UK and not the Mid-East Right?

Yes, point?
 
Nuggler
#22
Killem all.
 
sultana
+1
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

ISIS threatens to kill British jihadists who want to go home



Many British jihadists who travelled to Syria and Iraq and became embroiled with the Islamic State (IS) now want to return home but have been threatened with death by senior figures in IS, The Observer reported.

The newspaper has cited a source, who “has extensive contacts among Syrian rebel groups,” as saying that dozens of British men in Syria and Iraq wanted to return home but were in effect being held against their will by Islamic State.

“There are Britons, who, upon wanting to leave have been threatened with death, either directly or indirectly,” the source said.

Former Guantanamo Bay detainee Moazzam Begg told The Observer that he knew of at least 30 people who had gone over to fight Assad but had become involved with IS, many for language reasons, as IS has more English speakers in its ranks.

“When it becomes solidified as an Islamic State, a caliph, and you swear allegiance, thereafter if you do something disobedient you are now disobeying the caliph and could be subject to disciplinary measures which could include threats or death,” said Begg.



Begg has called on the UK government to introduce an amnesty for jihadists and to set up rehabilitation programs, like in Denmark, which help young men coming back to get their lives back on track without being prosecuted. Some members of the British government, have however, suggested that returning British jihadists should instead be tried for treason.

Begg, as well as spending years in Guantanamo, has also spent seven months in Belmarsh prison after being arrested for a trip he made to Syria in 2013. Begg was released earlier this month after it emerged secret intelligence material had been withheld from police, suggesting a strong possibility he has been in contact with MI5 about his Syria trips.

Begg is outreach director for Cage, an independent human rights organization which campaigns against the so-called War on Terror, and says a lot of Britons who went out to fight in Syria and Iraq are “between a rock and a hard place”.

“Some of the guys I met in Belmarsh had gone to Syria to help in a humanitarian defensive role, stayed for a few weeks and, crucially, didn’t want to get involved with the infighting between rebel groups yet the British government imprisoned them. If you come back because of the infighting it means you are not ideologically attached to groups like Isis,” he said.

Brainwashed kids or committed fighters?
It was revealed Friday that a fourth young British Muslim from the south coast town of Portsmouth has been killed in Syria, from a group of six men who called themselves the “Pompey lads” who left the UK to fight for ISIS.

It is believed that Mohammad Medhi Hassan, 19, was killed in fighting to try and capture the border town of Kobani, which Kurdish fighters have refused to surrender.

Last Tuesday it was confirmed that another of the “Pompey lads”, 24 year old Manunur Roshid, had also been killed on the Syrian front line, most probably in Kobani. Of the six men who left Portsmouth to fight jihad in Syria, four are dead and one is prison.

Recently Hassan had phoned his mother and had tried to escape across the border to meet up with her in Turkey, The Daily Mail reports. He got within just a few kilometers of the Turkish border town of Urfa when he was reportedly recaptured by ISIS fighters who imprisoned him and threatened him with death should he try it again.

Hassan was not a typical disgruntled and ostracized youth, he attended an expensive private school in Portsmouth and was due to study international politics at Surrey University, before travelling to Syria over a year ago.

An estimated 500 British Muslims have already gone to Syria and Iraq. Of them, 24 are already believed to have died, according to King’s College London’s International Centre for the Study of Radicalization (ICSR).

Earlier this week, Sir Bernard Hogan Howe, the Metropolitan Police Chief Commissioner warned that at least five Britons were joining ISIS every week.

“Those are the minimum. Those are the ones we believe have gone. There may be many more who set out to travel to another country in a way that’s not always possible to spot when you have failed states and leaky borders,” he said, as quoted by the British media.

source: ISIS threatens to kill British jihadists who want to go home - report ? RT UK

They are already home in Iraq and Syria. They have made their choice. Good riddance!
 
EagleSmack
+1
#24
They wanted to go to Syria... and there they will stay... forever.
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by Praxius View Post

Yes, point?

The ISIS leaders also have close ties to 'Muslims' coming from the West, like their leader who was a guest of US intelligence for at least a few years. He popped up as the leader almost instantly and I'll bet he is lacking and torture wounds. That is a point that is never mentioned as it is promoted that ISIS is a home grown organization as if they just crawled out of the caves of Tora Bora.

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

They wanted to go to Syria... and there they will stay... forever.

Actually it is Jordan and Iraw but who give a fuk about facts when Syria is the target right? (if they went there they would be fighting against ISIS. I doubt Damascus Internationl has two gates, one for ISIS and one for fighters wanting to fight with Syria.
 
sultana
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Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpy View Post

The thing is we can exploit this let some come home and use them as a
window into the enemy let them kill a few as well that way the infighting
begins and the ISIS movement may turn on itself But don't let too many
come home

You are joking, right.
 
Twila
+1
#27
I hope they aren't allowed "home".

They were "big enough" to want to kill, they should be "big enough" to be killed.
 
shadowshiv
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#28
The second they left to join terrorists, that should be considered their new home. They should no longer be considered British citizens, they should be considered for the terrorists that they are. They are having second thoughts? Boo hoo! You should have thought of that before you left. Once you left, you began the journey down the one-way path, and there is NO turning back.