Latest Poll: Conservative Lead widens


Jersay
#1
SES Research January 03:

Lib: 33

Conservative: 36

NDP: 15

Bloc: 13

Green: 4

Seat Projection:

Lib:95

Con: 131

NDP: 19

BLOC: 62

Other: 1

Wasn't this basically the same NDP, Liberal, Conservative numbers in the last election just reverse?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion...ection%2C_2006

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadia...#Opinion_polls
 
yballa09
#2
Wow, i was really worried about the initial response to the conservative negative TV ads, but looks like it has done anything but hurt them. I dont see the Cons pulling away, and i still expect this election to be close until th bitter end. It will be interesting to see if in the final days if very many ndp supporters will switch to vote liberal to keep the cons out of power.
 
Jersay
#3
Better not. Like I said before and I will say again. NDP voters like I should vote for the NDP. The cons cannot do anything in a minority mandate that the NDP or Libs or Bloc don't like. So they can't do any far reaching right-wing legislation.
 
Texas1
#4
This is just the beginning, just wait till next weeks scandal breaks, 140+ seats for the CPC.

PM is done and so are the Liberals.
 
Jersay
#5
Once the Conservative get into majority territory, then NDP voters can vote for the Liberals. Or not even the Liberals you have a ton of parties to vote for in Canada. In Quebec, the Bloc, the Green and others in other places in Canada so the right can't get a majority.
 
Texas1
#6
Chiken %hits
 
pastafarian
#7
Looks good. A Reform minority government is just what the Libs need to clean house. Watching the two arch-enemies trying to draft legislation together might be good for a hoot, too. I wish there was some way to pump up the NDP numbers a bit, but I can't see canadians ready to get off the LIb-Reform see-saw for a while yet.
 
Texas1
#8
Who said anything about minority, itís a majority we are looking for, how else are we going to change this socialist country?
 
the caracal kid
#9
change it into what? a mini-america? no thanks there, texas1.

a harper majority.... that will see a lot of money leaving canada, and perhaps people leaving too (but who knows on that one). Harper is the bearer of economic disaster, the end of social programs, the end of equality of all. One thing harper would show the stupid voters is just how good they had it under martin and chretien (and i am not a fan of martin or chretien).
 
Texas1
#10
Change it into Canada instead of the UN.

I knew it would only take a little time before a NDPer would hit back.

Quote:

Harper is the bearer of economic disaster, the end of social programs, the end of equality of all

you better have data to back that up.
 
karra
Conservative
#11
Quote:

you better have data to back that up.

There isn't any - other then assorted musings and wishful thinking of the type found at babble - you know, that place deserting itself for higher peaks. . . .
 
Jersay
#12
Hey Texas1

It is pretty simple that he is at an end to social programs. If you make huge cuts into the money that you have, the programs you are proposing are going to gopple it up. So you will not be able to improve social conditions like poverty and health care. I have found his platform on these issues lacking. Along with Native issues.

He is against equality for all,

Same-sex marriage anyone.

The United Nations is one of the most progressive organizations in the world. So let me guess Texas, you want to turn Canada back into a death-penalty, discriminate shithole of a country which is always in the red because it is afraid of terrorists and 'enemies' of the state.

Go to Texas.
 
the caracal kid
#13
look at his platform and his history (and the history of the reform/alliance/crap which he was involved in).

and I am not an NDPer, thank you. Not mentioning this several times ever gets through to folks who work on the "left vs right" binary thought process.
 
Texas1
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by karra

Quote:

you better have data to back that up.

There isn't any - other then assorted musings and wishful thinking of the type found at babble - you know, that place deserting itself for higher peaks. . . .

Yep so true, they will be jumping off rooftops in a couple weeks.
 
Jersay
#15
Look conservative lovers.

No Canadian wants to stomach a majority. A majority liberal, a majority Conservative a majority NDP. The Bloc an picking up seats won't allow it so get it out of your small pea heads.
 
Texas1
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by Jersay

Hey Texas1

It is pretty simple that he is at an end to social programs. If you make huge cuts into the money that you have, the programs you are proposing are going to gopple it up. So you will not be able to improve social conditions like poverty and health care. I have found his platform on these issues lacking. Along with Native issues.

He is against equality for all,

Same-sex marriage anyone.

The United Nations is one of the most progressive organizations in the world. So let me guess Texas, you want to turn Canada back into a death-penalty, discriminate shithole of a country which is always in the red because it is afraid of terrorists and 'enemies' of the state.

Go to Texas.

don't go off your meds.
 
the caracal kid
#17
no, we will be moving what money we have in canada OUT before the dollar devalues. tee hee!

edit: sheesh texas, is that all you have is "don't go off your meds". I guess you really are not interested in looking at the full platform.
 
Texas1
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by Jersay

Look conservative lovers.

No Canadian wants to stomach a majority. A majority liberal, a majority Conservative a majority NDP. The Bloc an picking up seats won't allow it so get it out of your small pea heads.

Says you. I feel different.

and it's Real Canadians to you
 
Calberty
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by pastafarian

Looks good. A Reform minority government is just what the Libs need to clean house. Watching the two arch-enemies trying to draft legislation together might be good for a hoot, too. I wish there was some way to pump up the NDP numbers a bit, but I can't see canadians ready to get off the LIb-Reform see-saw for a while yet.

The NDP will get more exposure if the party puts Svend Robinson out front and center now that he's thrown his hat into the 'ring'.
 
pastafarian
#20
Hey Texas1, don't you mean "how else are we going to change this into a socialist country?" :P That's what I'd like to see.
 
Texas1
#21
i'm sure, move to cuba then
 
pastafarian
#22
Quote:

The NDP will get more exposure if the party puts Svend Robinson out front and center now that he's thrown his hat into the 'ring'.

Agreed, but I'm not sure it will help their credibility.
 
pastafarian
#23
Quote:

i'm sure, move to cuba then

If I live in a socialist paradise, I want it to be one that isn't under an economic blockade by the US, where I can ski and where I can watch Corner Gas, in French!!!! :P
 
the caracal kid
#24
yes, pasta, canada needs to continue to develop its social consciousness.

the measure of a society is how it cares for its members, ALL its members.

Eventually we have to see an advancement of humanity beyond the self-serving greedy hunter-gatherer mentality.
 
Texas1
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by the caracal kid

yes, pasta, canada needs to continue to develop its social consciousness.

the measure of a society is how it cares for its members, ALL its members.

Eventually we have to see an advancement of humanity beyond the self-serving greedy hunter-gatherer mentality.


You too don't go off your meds, whats with this place everybody sick ?
 
the caracal kid
#26
texas,

i smell a troll......
 
pastafarian
#27
Quote:

yes, pasta, canada needs to continue to develop its social consciousness.

Agreed. With or without God :P .

Anyway, it seems that South America is leading the way, though Sweden and Denmark have been both positive and cautionary examples.

I hold out hope that 'Murca may begin to wise up: Chomsky always emphasizes that we in the NorthWestern hemispheres don't have a realistic sense of time when it comes to societies growing up. He uses abolitionism/civil rights and women's rights as examples, each of which was two hundred years or so of organised struggle, to get to the point we're at now.

Anyway, the socialism/capitalism thing is a bit of a red herring, IMO. The issue is democracy vs totalitarianism, and I don't mean just the opportunity to vote for well-heeled tools of business once every four years when I use the 'D" word.
 
I think not
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by the caracal kid

texas,

i smell a troll......

I have to agree with kid on this ( and I don't think I have yet), you're engaging in personal attacks and not even making a point Texas, get with the program!
 
Texas1
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by I think not

Quote: Originally Posted by the caracal kid

texas,

i smell a troll......

I have to agree with kid on this ( and I don't think I have yet), you're engaging in personal attacks and not even making a point Texas, get with the program!


Quote:

He is against equality for all,

WTF is that then ?
 
the caracal kid
#30
i agree with you pasta. socialism/capitalism/communism is the old false struggle of ideals, of which none work in their pure forms. It will be interesting to see the path canada takes to true democracy. I am very much interested in accelerating the rate of change to true democracy, but as with most things there is a lot of resistance. It is human nature to avoid/resist change.
 

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