Manson follower Leslie Van Houten again seeks parole


spaminator
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Manson follower Leslie Van Houten again seeks parole
Associated Press
Published:
January 29, 2019
Updated:
January 29, 2019 11:49 PM EST
In this Sept. 6, 2017, file photo, Leslie Van Houten attends her parole hearing at the California Institution for Women in Corona, Calif. (Stan Lim/Los Angeles Daily News via AP, Pool, File)AP
CHINO, Calif. — The woman who was the youngest follower of murderous cult leader Charles Manson will again ask to be freed from prison.
Leslie Van Houten, now 69 and serving a life sentence, has a parole hearing Wednesday at the California Institute for Women.
Van Houten was twice recommended for parole, but then-Gov. Jerry Brown blocked her release. Brown said Van Houten still laid too much blame on Manson for the 1969 stabbing deaths of wealthy grocer Leno LaBianca and his wife, Rosemary.
Van Houten, then 19, was among those who murdered the couple a day after other Manson followers killed pregnant actress Sharon Tate and four others in Los Angeles.
In prison, Van Houten has been a model inmate, earned a master’s degree in counselling and headed programs to help inmates.
http://torontosun.com/news/crime/man...n-seeks-parole
 
Walter
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#2
She woulda bin released from a Canadian jail in the 70s.
 
spilledthebeer
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

She woulda bin released from a Canadian jail in the 70s.


Congratulations Walter- You got that one RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!


Our LIE-beral overlords consider crime fighting efforts to be a WASTE of THEIR GRAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Hoof Hearted
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#4
She was a young brainwashed cult member...and she's already done 50 years of hard time. I say let her go.
 
NZDoug
#5
Its hard to believe Milhouse had childrens.
I1m getting` old.
 
spaminator
#6
Parole recommended for Manson follower Leslie Van Houten
Associated Press
Published:
January 30, 2019
Updated:
January 30, 2019 11:58 PM EST
In this Sept. 6, 2017, file photo, Leslie Van Houten attends her parole hearing at the California Institution for Women in Corona, Calif.Stan Lim / Los Angeles Daily News via AP, Pool, File
LOS ANGELES — A California panel on Wednesday recommended that Charles Manson follower Leslie Van Houten be paroled after serving more than four decades in prison.
After a hearing at the women’s prison in Corona, California, commissioners of the Board of Parole Hearings found for the third time that the 69-year-old Van Houten was suitable for release.
If her case withstands a 150-day review process, it will rest in the hands of California’s new Gov. Gavin Newsom. Van Houten was recommended for parole twice previously, but then-Gov. Jerry Brown blocked her release.
This March 29, 1971, file photo shows Leslie Van Houten in a Los Angeles lockup. AP, File
Van Houten was among the followers in Manson’s murderous cult who stabbed to death wealthy grocer Leno LaBianca and his wife, Rosemary, in 1969. Van Houten was 19 during the killings, which came a day after other Manson followers killed pregnant actress Sharon Tate and four others in Los Angeles.
Tate’s sister attended Wednesday’s proceedings and said afterward that she vehemently disagrees with the parole recommendation.
“I just have to hope and pray that the governor comes to the right decision” and keeps Van Houten behind bars, Debra Tate said. Newsom’s office didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.
Van Houten’s lawyer, Rich Pfeiffer, said he was pleased with how the commissioners focused on making sure that she took “full responsibility” for her role in the killings.
“She chose to go with Manson. She chose to listen to him. And she acknowledges that,” Pfeiffer said. He predicted that it “will be much more difficult” for Newsom to block parole than it was for Brown.
Charles Manson is escorted to his arraignment on conspiracy-murder charges in connection with the Sharon Tate murder case in 1969. AP
In his decision last year, Brown acknowledged Van Houten’s youth at the time of the crime, her more than four decades of good behaviour as a prisoner and her abuse at the hands of Manson. But he said she still laid too much blame on Manson for the murders.
At her last hearing, Van Houten described a troubled childhood. She said she was devastated when her parents divorced when she was 14. Soon after, she said, she began hanging out with her school’s outcast crowd and using drugs. When she was 17, she and her boyfriend ran away to San Francisco’s Haight-Ashbury District during the city’s Summer of Love.
She was travelling up and down the California coast when acquaintances led her to Manson. He was holed up at an abandoned movie ranch on the outskirts of Los Angeles where he had recruited what he called a “family” to survive what he insisted would be a race war he would launch by committing a series of random, horrifying murders.
Van Houten said she joined several other members of the group in killing the LaBiancas, carving up Leno LaBianca’s body and smearing the couple’s blood on the walls.
No one who took part in the Tate-LaBianca murders has been released from prison.
Manson died in 2017 of natural causes at a California hospital while serving a life sentence.
Earlier this month, a California parole panel recommended for the first time that Manson follower Robert Beausoleil be freed. Beausoleil was convicted of killing musician Gary Hinman.
http://torontosun.com/news/crime/man...n-seeks-parole
 
spilledthebeer
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Quote: Originally Posted by Hoof Hearted View Post

She was a young brainwashed cult member...and she's already done 50 years of hard time. I say let her go.



BRAINWASHED Cultist?????????????????????????


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Before you make an even bigger FOOL of yourself- I suggest you head down to the public library - or do some serious online research- doing a CAREFUL INSPECTION of the crime scene photos presented in the old book Helter Skelter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The ENTIRE Manson clan was MENTALLY ILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Anybody who would voluntarily participate in the Manson clan slaughter MUST be mentally ILL and should have their freedom restricted for thir own protection and that of the public!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Sharon Tate was about 6 months pregnant and could not run when they invaded her house and slashed her to ribbons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Along with half a dozen of her friends thanks to the Manson Clan being inspired by "demonic messages" heard in Beatles music played backwards while under the influence of massive doses of HARD drugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



THE ONLY reason LIE-berals have for letting such a diseased mind back out into society is TO SAVE ON GRAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is probably MARGINALLY CHEAPER to set Van Houton up in a fleabag room with a regular welfare cheque than to keep her in jail!!!!!!!!!!!!


Letting Van Houton loose is on a par with releasing Paul Bernardo, Clifford Olson and the guy who shot those women at the Ecole Polytechnique in Montreal several decades back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And yes- I know that only Bernardo is the only one of the three still alive- but I cannot think of any other truly vile murderers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As for Van Houton- she was mentally defective going in to jail- can 50 years imprisonment have improved her???????????????????


Why even bother with a parole board hearing at this point???????????????????
 
Hoof Hearted
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Again...she was a brainwashed teenage cult member. She's done almost 50 years of hard time. It's time to let her go in my opinion...and the parole board agrees with me.
 
petros
#9
I remember watching a 60 Minutes or 20/20 back in the late 80's or early 90s when her parole first came up. She was a model prisoner at that time but until Mason was dead she went going anywhere.

That bastard held everyone he f-cked over hostage by living too goddam long.
 
spilledthebeer
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoof Hearted View Post

Again...she was a brainwashed teenage cult member. She's done almost 50 years of hard time. It's time to let her go in my opinion...and the parole board agrees with me.


Hoof hearted???????????????


More like Hoof in the headed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Van Houton hung out with a pack of LOONS in the desert -stoned out of her mind and discussing Satanic messages and the need to spill blood!!!!!!!!!!!


And you DO NOT participate in a major crime like butchering half a dozen people with knives and then writing assorted political idiot slogans on the wall in the BLOOD of your victims unless you are a MAJOR LUNATIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Lynnete (Squeaky) Fromme- another member of the group went on to shoot and wound a Yankee president!!!!!!!!!!!! I dont recall if it was Ford or Reagan but the force of insanity is STRONG with the Manson Clan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Just because a pack of soft on crime- look for any excuse to release the killers just to save a dollar - idiot LIE-berals think Van Houton should be released does NOT mean the rest of us agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral handling of the mentally ill is a disgrace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!


AND IT WILL be an election issue thanks to the lunatic Muslim Danforth shooter, thanks to the lunatic Muslim woman from Cdn Tire who failed to actually kil anybody but certainly tried, thanks to that lunatic Muslim woman who stabbed a Cdn woman in the neck in the Toronto Subway system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thanks to the lunatic Muslim man who attacked people in Edmonton a few years back with no news as to when he will be released- LIE-berals do not think it is our business to know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


On the other hand- WE DO KNOW that the Muslim lunatic who walked in to a Cdn Forces recruiting centre on Young St IS BACK OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And we know that Richard Kashkar the loon who stole a snow plow and ran over a cop with it- also happens to be OUT NOW!!!!!!



And we know that Terry-lyn McClintick who lured 8 year old Tory Stafford away from school so she could be raped and murdered - would be in a native healing lodge being "prepared for eventual release" as the Corrections people tell it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Fortunately the public kicked up enough fuss that McClintick was sent back to a medium security prison.......at least until the public looks away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
....................

And the guy who actually raped Tory Stafford WOULD ALSO BE DOING EASY TIME IN PREPARATION FOR EVENTUAL RELEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But again- enough public pressure was brought to bear that the guy was sent back to his cell.............FOR NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Tory Stafford was 8 years old when she was kidnapped and raped- and the attacker managed to BREAK SEVERAL OF HER RIBS AS HE RIPPED INTO HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




The guy raped her and then had a little rest with Tory whimpering and bleeding and begging for help from McClintick- and probably in considerable pain as well.................


And when the guy wanted to rape her again Tory began really LOUDLY begging and pleading while McClintick dragged her back to the car for another go round............


And when the fun was over - the guy used the hammer that McClintick had bought just for the purpose- to BEAT TORY to death..........


Yes- apparently multiple blows were required to stop the crying and screaming...........................


Now- you just cannot hate these people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


A guy that ALREADY HAS an adult girlfriend who will do ANYTHING for him has to be DISEASED to get excited over raping an 8 year old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And a woman like McClintick has to be diseased to go along with a plan to help STEAL an 8 year old and let her boyfriend rape the child and then murder the kid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Now lets talk about how the guy raped the child a SECOND TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HOW IN HELL could anybody get excited about doing the kid AGAIN??????????????????


The pain and horror the kid suffered the first time must have been bad enough- as I mentioned he broke two of her ribs while forcing into her..............................



The cries, the blood, the obvious pain from torn genitals and broke ribs..............and he wants ANOTHER GO because this is a turn on??????????????????


He is going to ENJOY forcing her again??????????????????????????


And LIE-berals want to waste our money and parole board time considering letting either of the child killers loose on the street??????


This is why the public sneers at LIE-berals and their parole board crap, their hug a thug judges and their catch and release legal system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The ugly hard truth that LIE-berals are working SO HARD to deny is that a few people should be locked up and kept carefully incarcerated FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral refusal to recognize this truth is GOING TO COST VOTES in the next election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
petros
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Breath
 
spilledthebeer
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Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Breath


I am typing....................... not running knucklehead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

 
spilledthebeer
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

I remember watching a 60 Minutes or 20/20 back in the late 80's or early 90s when her parole first came up. She was a model prisoner at that time but until Mason was dead she went going anywhere.

That bastard held everyone he f-cked over hostage by living too goddam long.


I CALL BULLSH+T on petros!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


To bad you dont recall that Time magazine front page showing Manson with the swastika he carved into his forehead after he had been in prison for a few years and got bored!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!


I say the same thing about Manson as I have said about the diseased pair that raped and murdered Tory Stafford- you just cannot hate them - they are so damaged and diseased it clearly is NOT THEIR FAULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


However- just as we can never allow rabid dogs to roam free- so we cannot allow Manson family members or the killers of Tory Stafford ever to go loose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals MUST RECOGNIZE that their refusal to deal honestly with savage criminals will COST THEM DEARLY in lost votes in October 2019 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


The public has simply LOST PATIENCE thanks to the hail of bullets flying around Toronto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And LOST PATIENCE with the mob of lunatic Muslim radicals who want to spill our blood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And LOST PATIENCE with the LIE-berals who insist that all drug addicts are objects of sympathy worthy of endless patience as they

trash their own lives and foul everything they come in contact with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cdns HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN that drug addiction starts out as a VOLUNTARY ACT of insanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
DaSleeper
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petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

I CALL BULLSH+T on petros!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


To bad you dont recall that Time magazine front page showing Manson with the swastika he carved into his forehead after he had been in prison for a few years and got bored!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
I say the same thing about Manson as I have said about the diseased pair that raped and murdered Tory Stafford- you just cannot hate them - they are so damaged and diseased it clearly is NOT THEIR FAULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
However- just as we can never allow rabid dogs to roam free- so we cannot allow Manson family members or the killers of Tory Stafford ever to go loose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-berals MUST RECOGNIZE that their refusal to deal honestly with savage criminals will COST THEM DEARLY in lost votes in October 2019 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
The public has simply LOST PATIENCE thanks to the hail of bullets flying around Toronto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And LOST PATIENCE with the mob of lunatic Muslim radicals who want to spill our blood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And LOST PATIENCE with the LIE-berals who insist that all drug addicts are objects of sympathy worthy of endless patience as they
trash their own lives and foul everything they come in contact with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cdns HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN that drug addiction starts out as a VOLUNTARY ACT of insanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would have shot him. No fuss no muss.
 
MHz
#16
You have the same solution for every problem that pops up?? Is there a certain magic number that makes it too much fuss and way too messy?? Feel free to round it off to the nearest million.
 
petros
#17
What would you have done to Charlie if in the position to choose his fate?

Made popcorn and filled the hot tub with JELL-O?
 
Hoid
#18
He was sentenced to death

It was his fate to have the sentence commuted when the DP was removed in California.

His long lingering degeneration in prison served to demystify him forever.

He was a criminal.
 
spilledthebeer
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Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

He was sentenced to death

It was his fate to have the sentence commuted when the DP was removed in California.

His long lingering degeneration in prison served to demystify him forever.

He was a criminal.



OH HOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!



I think YOU ARE DEGENERATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


How does letting a LUNATIC become "demystified" some how compensate for shameless LIE-beral vote buying and utter refusal to take real action against the criminals in our society?????????????????????????????????


And on a related theme- I ask if letting Manson. Bernardo and others like Jeff Dahmer and Clifford Olsen, and the killers of Tory Stafford- meaning Terry-lyn McClintick who lured the child to her death- and Rafferty- the guy who raped Tory twice and then beat her to death with a hammer, should be left to rot in prison for life- I ask if this is "humane" ???????



Such people who are so clearly and utterly DAMAGED might be better off being sent back to their Maker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yes- I ask if the death sentence should not be used from time to time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There is NO DOUBT about the guilt of Bernardo- he VIDEO TAPED HIS ATTACKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There is NO DOUBT about the guilt of Clifford Olsen- he did a deal with RCMP and they paid Olsen`s wife a nice little retirement fund in exchange for Clifford showing them where he buried his victims!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And as I recall- the evidence against McClintick and Raffterty was also COMPELLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


With McClintick testifying against Rapist Rafferty in exchange for more lenient treatment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I suggest these killers have so destroyed their lives -and their victims- that they can never be trusted if released back into society and I suggest that keeping them locked in a concrete cubicle for LIFE might be WORSE than a swift death penalty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Is it not ODD that LIE-berals consider it CRUEL to lock an animal in a concrete cubicle.................but they have NO PROBLEM consigning killers to such a cubicle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But of course in standard LIE-beral fashion a LIFE SENTENCE is a LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals will release the killers later on when nobody is looking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


And here we have HYPOCRITE HOID talking in circles around the issue in hopes people will get bored and look away from his LIE-beral Fake News!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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