Is Canada ready for the coming electric vehicle revolution?


Curious Cdn
#1081
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

Do you have one???????

No.

いいえ
 
JLM
#1082
It's only simpletons who can't see that Canada will never be ready for electric cars in the sense people are thinking. Which river do you want to see dammed up next? Do you have habitat available to replace it? We are already running short of land on which to feed beef and hogs!
 
Curious Cdn
#1083
We'll need to build another one of these ...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darli...rating_Station
 
JLM
#1084
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

We'll need to build another one of these ...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darli...rating_Station


I agree but 90% of the population probably won't. Two mishaps have people scared shitless!
 
Curious Cdn
#1085
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

I agree but 90% of the population probably won't. Two mishaps have people scared shitless!

What? A tsunami in Japan and a drunken control room operator in Belarus? Hardly what is going to happen, here. It's amazing how few accidents there have been in eight decades of nuclear reactor operation.
 
JLM
#1086
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

What? A tsunami in Japan and a drunken control room operator in Belarus? Hardly what is going to happen, here. It's amazing how few accidents there have been in eight decades of nuclear reactor operation.


I was thinking of Chernobyl and Three Mile Island.
 
Hoid
#1087
You were thinking?

Seems unlikely
 
spilledthebeer
#1088
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Electricity is a finite resource. I would agree with them when the technology is developed to the point of them being able to run from Solar panels mounted on the roof.




Sorry JLM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Electricity is an INFINITE RESOURCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


There are many ways it can be produced!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


Sadly- the item that IS LIMITED - is cash to pay for LIE-beral electricity price gouging!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


One has only to look at the financial disasters Toronto Silly Hall has created as it struggles to buy Green Buses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In spit of what a LIE-beral Shill like Hoid tells us- LIE-beral electric TOY vehicles are not ready fopr general use!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Consider:::::




And the THREE GREAT weaknesses of electric Toy vehicles STILL REMAIN IN PLACE!!!

First is COST- a Tesla model 3 costs $35 grand in U.S. dollars and a Nissan Qashqai costs $20 grand in Cdn dollars- TESLA is TWICE THE COST!

Second is battery range- which a we now know is BADLY compromised when the weather cools! AS for usable battery range after 2-3 months in daily sub zero temperature- NOBODY has tested that- EXCEPT our TTC that bought battery buses and then SCRAPPED THEM!

Third is refueling speed- which REMAINS CUMBERSOME! The LIE-beral program to get fast chargers installed in Toronto area has so far FAILED! At last report- Less than half the chargers LIE-berals contracted for were actually installed! In addition a significant number were BROKEN! Others FAILED to give top level charging speed and instead delivered charging rates that took many hours to complete!

It would cost at least $3 grand to get a first class fast charger installed in a typical Cdn house- and that does not count the assorted subsidies that LIE-berals offered nd which Doug Ford has cancelled while dealing with the $16 billion dollar debt left by Wynne-bag!!!!!!!!!

But few people are ALLOWED to alter the electrical system in a town house complex and certainly NO RENTER would be allowed to install a fast charger!!!!!
Various fire insurance laws and condo corporations would prevent it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Govt has enough toruble getting around to doing safety inspections of gas and propane stations -as witness the Sunrise Prpane blast of a decade back! How can govt possibly enure that all the electrical chargers that would be needed could be inspected as necessary if we all switched to electric cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This electric Toy vehicle crap is NOT innovative technology- it is a HUGE LIE-beral GRAVY GRAB by LIE-berals seeking ONLY to suck off enough gravy from their mouldy green energy scam so they can buy civil service Hog votes and cling to power at any price!

And interested taxpayers should beware of NDP since ETFO- our elementary school teachers union has thrown its support behind NDP!

Not only is there no loyalty between Hogs -it appears that NDPers have offered MORE GRAVY to ETFO than LIE-berals did- meaning another round of mad tax and spend Rae Days MADNESS if Horvath should become premier!
 
Hoid
#1089
Fears that e vehicle charging will overload electric grids seems to be unfounded.

In fact there is a good possibility that the energy stored in vehicle batteries can be sold back to the grid.

Well, what do you know? Who ever would have believed that a battery could store energy?


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKCN1PF0IT
 
MHz
#1090
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

We'll need to build another one of these ...

Right idea, wrong size. City size, every city has one and a back-up, . . . . pre-buried.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclea...Future_designs
Future designs
Russia is well advanced with plans to build a floating nuclear power plant for their far eastern territories. The design has two 35 MWe units based on the KLT-40 reactor used in icebreakers (with refueling every four years). Some Russian naval vessels have been used to supply electricity for domestic and industrial use in remote far eastern and Siberian towns.
Lloyd's Register is investigating the possibility of civilian nuclear marine propulsion and rewriting draft rules (see text under Merchant Ships).
 
MHz
#1091
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Fears that e vehicle charging will overload electric grids seems to be unfounded.

In fact there is a good possibility that the energy stored in vehicle batteries can be sold back to the grid.

Well, what do you know? Who ever would have believed that a battery could store energy?


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKCN1PF0IT

City vehicles could use the trolley lines so they only need batteries for a few miles when they travel 100's of km/day. Interstates could have lines on the hills so batteries get charged when they would be getting drained the most as well as allow city cars to travel between cities.


Train scheduling software and Jersey barriers carrying the power could be used to almost entirely eliminate congestion and the accidents that come with it.
 
Curious Cdn
#1092
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Right idea, wrong size. City size, every city has one and a back-up, . . . . pre-buried.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclea...Future_designs
Future designs
Russia is well advanced with plans to build a floating nuclear power plant for their far eastern territories. The design has two 35 MWe units based on the KLT-40 reactor used in icebreakers (with refueling every four years). Some Russian naval vessels have been used to supply electricity for domestic and industrial use in remote far eastern and Siberian towns.
Lloyd's Register is investigating the possibility of civilian nuclear marine propulsion and rewriting draft rules (see text under Merchant Ships).

The Russians want a floating reactor so that they can scuttle it in the North Atlantic instead of safely storing it's hot remains, like they do with their spent nuclear submarines.

Look, Ma! No radioactive leftovers! Progress!
 
Hoid
#1093
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/02/12...la-powertrain/

Tesla denies they are in a deal with GM to produce the e power train for a GM pickup

GM has no comment

Because how can you sell gassers for the next 5 years when everyone knows you are going all electric?
 
MHz
#1094
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post


Look, Ma! No radioactive leftovers! Progress!

Might I suggest everybody use the trench just east of Japan and put lots of other garbage on top of it.
The floating one will be used in support of underwater mining, the icebreaker will get to the mine site.

Why don't we have mini ones for all the villages that dot the north?
 
spilledthebeer
#1095
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Fears that e vehicle charging will overload electric grids seems to be unfounded.

In fact there is a good possibility that the energy stored in vehicle batteries can be sold back to the grid.

Well, what do you know? Who ever would have believed that a battery could store energy?


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKCN1PF0IT




Oh HOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!


YOU are even goofier than MHz when it comes to designing Rube Goldberg type idiot machines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Certainly there WAS a recent news article on how some Yankee convenience stores are buying up worn out electric toy car batteries- for pennies- and installing them in banks behind the store and hooking them into solar panel arrays!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The idea being that electricity is generated in daytime- for the store to tap into at night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But such a scheme ONLY WORKS if the batteries are being thrown away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If the convenience store had to pay anything other than the cost of shipping- they would abandon the scheme!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The economics of large scale power storage using lithium batteries purchased at full price DO NOT FUNCTION in our society!!!!!!!!!!!!



Sadly for SCHEMING LIE-berals like HOID- such power generating deal will NOT become wide spread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Firstly- the number of worn out batteries from electric TOY cars will remain LIMITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The destruction of the Wynne-bag LIE-beral brand in Ontari-owe has very clearly signalled that WE ARE NOT willing to pay the huge subsidies that LIE-beral electric toys require for regular production!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Nor are we willing to pay the Vast subsidies that Wynne-bag LIE-berals offered to get their mouldy green wind and solar farms running!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Another reason for the disgrace thrown on Wynne-bag LIE-berals is the UGLY REALITY that they routinely SHUT DOWN WATER GENERATION PLANTS - to make room on the power grid for their hugely costly green crap- produced by friends of LIE-beral party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals tell us how dedicated they are to the environment and how they want to build the economy and then they SHUT DOWN the water powered generators -the CLEANEST AND CHEAPEST source of power available!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-beral green energy plans are being exposed as a costly scam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There WILL NOT be any new banks of batteries outside Cdn buildings to store mouldy green power in YOUR LIFETIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And now here is the part where you START to RETORT about how many electric TOY cars the Chinese are making!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Too bad you are not being HONEST with us about that either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Chinese electric Toy cars REALLY ARE TOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The great majority are MICRO CARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just like the TATA- made in India!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You remember the Tata dont you Hoid????????????????


The little gas powered car designed to hold Mom and Dad and 2 little kids that is the most fuel efficient gas powered car on the planet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But in order to make that Tatra passenger space they had to ABANDON ANY of the usual crash zone/crumple zone spacing that we have come to expect from North American cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


They had to abandon most of the passenger protection and frame reinforcing that North Americans expect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And the wheels on a Tata MUST BE TINY since there is no room for large fenders and bigger wheels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


Yes- Tata tires- as with ALL Micro cars- MUST BE TINY- to save space and weight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Tata has tires that are a TOTAL of 12 inches in diameter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yeah- the size of dinner plates!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1



What this means is that running a Tata at 60 KMH for more than a short distance will QUICKLY OVERHEAT the wheel bearings and allow the wheels to FALL OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Japanese have been making gas powered Micro cars -and some electric ones- for several decades now- and there are some COMPELLING REASONS why such cars are not for sale in North America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Micro cars are made for Asian cities- where people simply do not want to walk a few blocks in Monsoon weather!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Micro cars -either gas or electric - would be a DISASTER on Cdn roads and thus WILL NEVER BE ACCEPTABLE on North American roads due to a wide range of safety concerns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And the final point HOID - that General Motors is GIVING UP trying to sell sedans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And by amazing coincidence- Micro cars are virtually ALWAYS sedan or hatchback types!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


North Americans DO NOT WANT to deal with the LIMITED cargo capacity and lack of towing capacity of your vaunted electric Toy cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



By your persistence in trying to sell these UNWANTED, often unsafe and quite costly machines you are further damaging and disgracing the LIE-beral brand!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
MHz
#1096
Want a free battery?? I assume water from the Dead Sea would be worth a few coins while a plant there could bring Israel into the global energy market in a shockingly big way. Able to serve the Mid-east, Africa and the EU.
http://aquionenergy.com/
Aquion manufactures safe and sustainable saltwater batteries.
 
spilledthebeer
#1097
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Want a free battery?? I assume water from the Dead Sea would be worth a few coins while a plant there could bring Israel into the global energy market in a shockingly big way. Able to serve the Mid-east, Africa and the EU.
http://aquionenergy.com/
Aquion manufactures safe and sustainable saltwater batteries.


WHAT IS THIS????????????????????????????????


MHz actually saying something about Jews other than TOTAL HATE?????????????????????????????


Is your mental software down again?????????????????????????????????????


And considering the raving Jew baiting NONSENSE you usually spew......................would you actually buy a battery from a Jew???????


But how SAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


All the wonderful electric TOY car ideas that MHz dreams up .........are just that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


DRUG FUELED DREAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!



Tell me MHz.............what drugs do you take BESIDES THE LSD???????????????????????????????????????
 
Hoid
#1098
Tesla introduces the bare bones model 3 for $35,000 American.

https://www.wired.com/story/tesla-mo...tores-closing/
 
Curious Cdn
#1099
Wheels come in a higher trim package.
 
Hoid
#1100
It a lot of car or $35 K (minus many incentives still available)
 
JLM
#1101
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

Sorry JLM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Electricity is an INFINITE RESOURCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


There are many ways it can be produced!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


Actually you are quite right...…………..if we could capture and store the voltage from a single lightening storm, we'd be set for life at very little cost- problem is no one has figured out how to do that yet!
 
Curious Cdn
#1102
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Actually you are quite right...…………..if we could capture and store the voltage from a single lightening storm, we'd be set for life at very little cost- problem is no one has figured out how to do that yet!

Sure they have!

http://youtu.be/xMxsLKQidY4
 
spilledthebeer
#1103
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Actually you are quite right...…………..if we could capture and store the voltage from a single lightening storm, we'd be set for life at very little cost- problem is no one has figured out how to do that yet!




Which is why those LIE-beral sponsored electric TOY cars will NOT be coming to a street near me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ordinary people have better things to do with their limited resources than play with battery powered toys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Hoid
#1104
Science and technology are advancing at a rate we can't even begin to appreciate.

All concerns about e cars are being addressed and will all be left in the dust.

It is time to simply do it.
 
spilledthebeer
#1105
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Sure they have!

http://youtu.be/xMxsLKQidY4




And the ONE MAJOR OBSTACLE is that little deal breaker called HIGH COST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What killed the electric car?????????????????????????????????


Short range!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Awkward refueling system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!


The need for massive LIE-beral bribes to get even a few people to buy the little TOY CARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the LIES TOLD about how clean the electric TOY cars really are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And those other LIES about how badly the batteries suffer in cool weather!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
MHz
#1106
My bike goes 3x as far after I gave the battery a heating pad.
 
spilledthebeer
#1107
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

My bike goes 3x as far after I gave the battery a heating pad.


That`s nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why dont you wrap it around your head and see if it makes you 3x smarter????????????????????????


God knows you need the help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Hoid
#1108

vw debuts its new all electric full size suv for 2021
dual engines at 300plus HP 0-60 in 6.6 sec and a range of about 248 miles. Available with various self driving modes.
https://www.engadget.com/2019/04/14/...-electric-suv/
 
JLM
#1109
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post


vw debuts its new all electric full size suv for 2021
dual engines at 300plus HP 0-60 in 6.6 sec and a range of about 248 miles. Available with various self driving modes.
https://www.engadget.com/2019/04/14/...-electric-suv/




So why don't you buy one and shut up?
 
Curious Cdn
#1110
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post


vw debuts its new all electric full size suv for 2021
dual engines at 300plus HP 0-60 in 6.6 sec and a range of about 248 miles. Available with various self driving modes.
https://www.engadget.com/2019/04/14/...-electric-suv/

It was either that or continue using their funky tail pipe app.