Fentanyl

spilledthebeer
#91
Quote: Originally Posted by Dixie Cup View Post

Roy Greene has addressed this issue repeatedly and in depth and has interviewed, on the radio with pain specialists (who are willing to talk publicly) and those who are not for fear of losing their licenses and other individuals who are involved in prescribing these pain medications and authorities and they will all tell you the same thing. While there may be SOME prescription drugs involved, MOST of the deaths due to opioids are from illegally sourced drugs.


It is extremely disingenuous to say that MOST deaths are caused by prescribed drugs because that is factually wrong! Ask any Border agent about how much "fentanyl" has been captured trying to come into our country and they'll tell you that they only get a small portion of what is coming into the country, mostly from China.


In the meantime, the people who actually need these opioids and who have tried everything else before even getting them prescribed, are suffering because doctors are no longer prescribing them which has left them in extreme pain - pain that nothing else will relieve.


Insofar as prescribed opioids, since most (if not all) doctors won't prescribe them anymore because their Medical Associations will take their licenses, why is it that these so-called prescribed drugs are supposedly still killing? It's because they're not. It's the crap that is being imported that is doing the killing. Doctors have not been prescribing these pills for at least 2 years now and I hear that the situation is only becoming worse. How is that happening?


So, the politicians and medical associations have completely missed the mark on all these deaths and have, in fact, condemned those who need these medications to a life of constant and extreme pain simply because people on the street are dying. It's all well and good to try to do something about these deaths but putting one segment of our society over another is not the way to do it.


The whole thing has been handled badly by those who have jumped to conclusions and refuse to take the advice of the people who actually know what they're talking about.


JMHO


Yes- Dixie- HOID is a spectacularly NASTY LIE-beral propaganda spreader!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


One has only to read about the Opiod crisis on a typical native reserve to understand how badly LIE-berals are failing us all!!!!!!!!!!!


As the article I posted below describes- there seems to be NO EFFORT on the part of cops to trace where or how native addicts are getting their "prescription"s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


Corrupt doctors???????????????????


Bribery??????????????????????????


Intimidation???????????????????????????


LIE-berals DO NOT consider it worth spending THEIR GRAVY on any solutions or real investigations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals want to BUY VOTES- not argue with drug addicts about dangerous habits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Officials declare state of emergency over drug crisis on Stoney Nakoda First Nation.

By Michele Jarvie, Postmedia. First posted: Sunday, July 24, 2016 07:10 PM EDT | Updated: Monday, July 25, 2016 11:26 AM EDT

(With some comments of my own in brackets):

Topic: The opioid crisis. The three First Nations bands near Morley are in a crisis situation over extremely high rates of prescription drug addictions and overdoses among members. With addiction rates surging as high as 60% among adult members of the reserve, Stoney Nakoda has declared a state of emergency.

(How can people be referred to as a `nation` when the `national` income is almost entirely welfare money sent over from another `nation`?)

“We had something like 139 deaths attributed to opiates within a two-year period on the nation,” said Lindsay Blackett, CEO of the Chiniki band, one of three that comprise Stoney Nakoda. “There’s only 6,000 people on the whole reserve so that’s a significant number vis-à-vis the population.”

He said fentanyl is the No. 1 culprit on the reserve — the same deadly drug that is devastating communities across Canada. More than 270 Albertans died from fentanyl overdoses last year with at least 20 deaths on the southern Blood Reserve alone since the summer of 2014.

A prescription painkiller, fentanyl is up to 100 times more potent than morphine and is often passed off as a new form of OxyContin. “A lot of people are abusing it. And once you’re hooked, that’s a jealous mistress. Once it hooks you, it wrecks your life,” said Blackett.

“It’s not a reflection on one particular community. It’s not like we’re the only ones dealing with it. It’s widespread and not just in the native population. It’s just more pronounced in the native population.” Blackett noted the opiate crisis is just part of a larger drug and alcohol challenge being faced on the reserve.

Health Canada officials say they have been working with First Nations’ chiefs and administration and the Alberta government to support the communities and address complex issues of mental illness and suicide, addictions, chronic disease and improve access to quality health care.

(There is no practical way to improve access to health care on tiny reserves when Ontari-owe LIE-berals are closing hospitals in moderate sized CITIES! And LIE-berals were caught lying about how many hospitals were actually closed! But not to worry- the money saved was spent on Muslim `invaders` crossing our borders!)

On June 17, federal Health Minister Jane Philpott announced new actions to address opioid misuse, which includes better prescribing practices and treatment options, reducing easy access to unnecessary opioids and improving the national evidence base.

Health Canada funds $86 million annually for addictions support for First Nations and Inuit communities through the National Native Alcohol and Drug Abuse Program and the National Youth Solvent Abuse Program. Through these programs, a network of 43 treatment centres is supported, as well as drug and alcohol prevention services in the majority of First Nations and Inuit communities.

Alberta Health Minister Sarah Hoffman says the province has been working with First Nations on responding to the fentanyl crisis, with addictions treatment and education. Government officials are also sharing electronic data to help First Nations roll out immunization programs.

(What does child immunization have to do with adults being a drugged up mess?)

“We know that First Nations peoples are struggling with higher rates of diabetes, addictions and poverty — all of which contribute to poorer health outcomes.”

(Drugged up addicts just don’t have a proper work ethic! Nor do they eat well since drugs and alcohol take up so much of their budget! Perhaps LIE-berals can somehow BUY a solution for them?)

The high number of addicted adults on the Morley-area reserve is anecdotal at best as actual numbers are not known. Prescription opioid addiction numbers are not tracked, nor are deaths unless they are related to fentanyl — a drug that appeared on the streets in 2012 and has become the single-largest public health threat in Alberta.

(I say this lack of `numbers` indicates that some activists and poverty pimps DON’T WANT to `find` the numbers. Some appear worried that respect for natives will plummet if the extent of their addictions and troubles are fully known. Others appear concerned that full disclosure of troubles will result in White Govt taking away much of the power and authority of band councils and imposing decisions on bands in order to force more responsible govt into place-a course of action that IS desperately needed!)

(The spectacle of Atiwapiskat Chief Teresa Spence refusing to discuss how she and her political allies burned through ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS of govt money in five years without using a penny to build the housing that the cash was earmarked for-AND without being able to show a single receipt for all that cash-while band members lived in tents and shacks in the Arctic winter is a thing that leaves a BAD TASTE in the mouths of many Cdn tax payers!)

“We really do a poor job on surveillance of opioid overdose deaths and that’s a good way to measure addictions,” said Alberta addictions specialist Hakique Virani. “We don’t count it unless it’s fentanyl. Until we do that, we don’t have a handle on numbers.”

Virani was not surprised by the suggestion that 50 to 60% of Stoney Nakoda residents are prescription addicts. In fact, he suspects the number is higher in the adult population.

Asked how people can repeatedly get drugs prescribed, sometimes for years at a time, Virani said it often happens because no one asks questions. Or they’re ill-equipped to deal with the fallout.

(Or perhaps some drug company sales people and doctors are simply committing criminal acts by supplying drugged up natives and profiting nicely from it?)

“The patient may not even be complaining of anything wrong. When doctors inherit patients with prescription addictions, often they’ll just perpetually refill it because there may not be any complaint of side-effects.

(Or are some doctors being THREATENED if they do not refill the prescriptions? Doctors are sworn to “do no harm” and simply handing out drugs with no questions asked sounds a lot like harm and blackmail to me!)

“Even if they are demonstrating signs of dependency, would the best thing be to cut them off? No,” said Virani, who treats patients at an Edmonton methadone clinic and teaches at the University of Alberta. He has been critical of the government’s handling of the fentanyl drug crisis.

(What? Cutting off the supply of a dangerous drug is a BAD thing? How?)

“It’s a difficult dilemma. It is dangerous to keep prescribing but in the absence of safe and effective treatment for dependency, what do you do?”

(Its especially difficult to treat people who insist on staying in the same miserable, corrupt conditions that originally persuaded them to chemically alter their mood!)

Treatment for prescription opiate drug addiction includes stabilizing patients with other long-acting medications such as methadone or Suboxone. Counseling for underlying issues is also needed or more advanced therapy for psychiatric or psychological trauma.

(But of course there is no such handy stabilization option on benighted reserves!)

But methadone and Suboxone can be dangerous medications so use of them requires following monitoring protocols, which can be difficult to do in remote areas or First Nations reserves with limited access to health clinics and doctors.

“It’s unfortunately not a unique situation for First Nations in Alberta, it’s not a unique situation for some towns in Alberta. An entire provincial problem is poor access to treatment. And it’s not changing near fast enough.”

Virani said Alberta needs to rethink how local practitioners are supported. He pointed to a project that is working well in Slave Lake, where the province partnered with First Nations bands to provide telemedicine in co-operation with practitioners on site.

(One obvious obstacle to such a solution is GETTING practitioners on site! Natives who have the drive and determination to BECOME practitioners often are reluctant to return to the mess they worked so hard to escape! And they certainly would not want to bring their children to live in such an isolated and messed up place! If past news reports are correct then it is often unsafe for even armed police officers after dark in the worst off reserves in times of crisis!)

“If we’re creative and committed to addressing this problem, we can do it. Until we accept it’s a public health emergency, we’ll continue to bail out a sinking ship with a spoon.”
 
taxslave
#92
Quote: Originally Posted by Dixie Cup View Post

Roy Greene has addressed this issue repeatedly and in depth and has interviewed, on the radio with pain specialists (who are willing to talk publicly) and those who are not for fear of losing their licenses and other individuals who are involved in prescribing these pain medications and authorities and they will all tell you the same thing. While there may be SOME prescription drugs involved, MOST of the deaths due to opioids are from illegally sourced drugs.
It is extremely disingenuous to say that MOST deaths are caused by prescribed drugs because that is factually wrong! Ask any Border agent about how much "fentanyl" has been captured trying to come into our country and they'll tell you that they only get a small portion of what is coming into the country, mostly from China.
In the meantime, the people who actually need these opioids and who have tried everything else before even getting them prescribed, are suffering because doctors are no longer prescribing them which has left them in extreme pain - pain that nothing else will relieve.
Insofar as prescribed opioids, since most (if not all) doctors won't prescribe them anymore because their Medical Associations will take their licenses, why is it that these so-called prescribed drugs are supposedly still killing? It's because they're not. It's the crap that is being imported that is doing the killing. Doctors have not been prescribing these pills for at least 2 years now and I hear that the situation is only becoming worse. How is that happening?
So, the politicians and medical associations have completely missed the mark on all these deaths and have, in fact, condemned those who need these medications to a life of constant and extreme pain simply because people on the street are dying. It's all well and good to try to do something about these deaths but putting one segment of our society over another is not the way to do it.
The whole thing has been handled badly by those who have jumped to conclusions and refuse to take the advice of the people who actually know what they're talking about.
JMHO

Yes most of the deaths are from illegal drugs but a large number of those are because the experts all of a suddenly decided to cut back on prescriptions to addictive drugs, leaving those with government sponsored addictions with little choice but to by blackmarket. The rest of course are deadbeats that are just looking for a better high.Army medics used to give out oxycondon like candy and then send the people back to work with heavy equipment. Along with what ever other drugs they were experimenting with for PTDSD.
 
spilledthebeer
#93
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Yes most of the deaths are from illegal drugs but a large number of those are because the experts all of a suddenly decided to cut back on prescriptions to addictive drugs, leaving those with government sponsored addictions with little choice but to by blackmarket. The rest of course are deadbeats that are just looking for a better high.Army medics used to give out oxycondon like candy and then send the people back to work with heavy equipment. Along with what ever other drugs they were experimenting with for PTDSD.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


Taxslave -are you REALLY TRYING to tell us that the recent spike in drug/opiod deaths are the result of LIE-berals cutting back on legal prescriptions????????????????????????????????


That is the most ABSURD thing I have ever heard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Some years back I was in hospital with a serious spinal chord injury and I got a WHOLE LOT OF DRUGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Started with Morphine and then they DOUBLED the dose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Then they switched to some kind of Synthetic Morphine.....................and then they doubled the dose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Then they switched me to Percocet........you know the stuff I mean- that infamous Hillbilly Heroin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And GUESS WHAT??????????????????????????????????


You can STOP TAKING THAT STUFF COLD TURKEY without any ill effects!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!


Anybody who wants to claim they suffered medical problems from being cut off a LEGAL PRESCRIPTION IS A LIAR OF FANTASTIC PROPORTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AS i said in my recent post about addicted natives- our LIE-beral overlords DO NOT GIVE A SH+T ABOUT NATIVE ADDICTS!!!!!!!!!!!!


And taxslave- your meally mouth whining about people hatmed by LEGAL prescriptions is BULLSH+T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I also pointed out that LIE-berals do not care to waste their GRAVY on cops who could seek out and cut off supplies of prescription drugs that are apparently being badly abused!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I am living proof that NO PATIENT taking LEGALLY PRESCRIBED Opiods will be harmed in any way by getting cut off cold turkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I had 3/4 of a bottle of Percocet LEFT OVER and UN-NEEDED when the injury healed up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And I gave those pills back to the doctor for safe disposal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Danbones
#94
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

the issue is very much prescribed pills - and a coordinated campaign to misinform doctors as to the side effects of the drug

I'm sure you saw this posted before. but are just ignoring it because you hate canadians and americans, and wish we were all dead so you can sneak in and take over.


'Record' fentanyl drug bust made at US-Mexico border

US Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) has announced their largest ever seizure of the synthetic opioid drug fentanyl.

Agents on Saturday found 254 lbs (114kg) of fentanyl, as well as 395 lbs of methamphetamine in a lorry at an official US-Mexico border crossing.

A "false floor" was found in the produce truck, said Michael Humphries, who commands the Nogales checkpoint on the Arizona-Mexico border.

The lorry's Mexican driver has been arrested and charged with drug dealing.

According to Mr Humphries, the cargo of fentanyl had an approximate black market value of $3.5m (£2.6m) and is considered so deadly that even a few salt-sized grains of it could kill a person.

According to the US Centers for Disease Control, fentanyl is the drug most involved in fatal overdoses around the country, accounting for around 18,000 deaths in 2016.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47066311

The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says in a recent report that fentanyl is now the drug most often involved in fatal overdoses across the country, accounting for more than 18,000, or almost 29 percent, of the 63,000 overdose fatalities in 2016.
https://globalnews.ca/news/4911804/u...-bust-arizona/

The bust also included nearly 400 pounds of methamphetamine.
http://fortune.com/2019/01/31/fentan...opioid-crisis/

Fentanyl bust 'enough to kill 26 million'
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44244688

2,066 Canadians died of opioid overdoses in the first half of 2018
https://globalnews.ca/news/4754876/o...a-deaths-2018/


That's why Hoid and his friends don't want a wall, not to mention the potential female, and child, rape victims...

Last edited by Danbones; 2 weeks ago at 10:56 AM..
 
spilledthebeer
#95
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

the issue is very much prescribed pills - and a coordinated campaign to misinform doctors as to the side effects of the drug


WHAT IN HELL are you blathering about this time HOID????????????????????????


Just WHO is putting up a "coordinated campaign to misinform doctors about the side effects of the drug"???????????????????????


Based on the stuff you sometimes blurt out I think cops ought to be following you around!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


I am quite sure you would lead the cops to every major drug dealer in town!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


And why dont the cops put an end to this coordinated campaign that is causing so much trouble???????????????


Oh, right- LIE-berals are IGNORING CRIME because doing anything about it would cut into their gravy supply!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And arresting drug dealers might lose them votes!!!!!!!!!!!
 
MHz
#96
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post



Just WHO is putting up a "coordinated campaign to misinform doctors about the side effects of the drug"???????????????????????


Pull up a chair and and whatever else you need to be comfortable 'for a spell'. If this was about Joe's Corner Coffee Shop and Brothel it would take just a few sentences, however, (you will learn to hate this word) the 'drugs come from the same fields that 'big pharma' also gets their product from. The split is 'Doctors' work for 'big pharma' and they take 90% of everything that is produced in the world, the 10% is given to the 'black market' where the lower quality still brings in almost as much only due to 'big pharma' having many more products available other than just heroin. Egypt was the starting location as far as Europe goes so if more is needed there are fields available.
For this post lets say a 'doctor' is anybody with a 'phd' and that is the dividing line as far as 'dealers' and 'addicts' are concerned. One side gets the best product and they make money selling the 'sludge' to others who are 'lesser people'. That would include all the black market customers as well as any that get drugs from big pharma. (where the profit sharing brings in more than the cost of the drugs)

Doctors would go back as far as ancient Egypt.
Heroin would go back as far as ancient Egypt.
Welcome to the birth of the Mossad.


Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post


Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

And why dont the cops put an end to this coordinated campaign that is causing so much trouble???????????????


The ones at Joe's place would need to take them to the courts and they are in place to make sure the doctors get off yet the black market dealers come and go quickly, most often through a violent act. The Military are the police that protect the doctors on a global level. There are about 100 different ones that are at odds with each other to prevent them from 'talking' while they can be divided into two groups for a 'World War' against themselves.


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Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post


Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

Oh, right- LIE-berals are IGNORING CRIME because doing anything about it would cut into their gravy supply!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


(sharp intake of breath)


Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post


Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

And arresting drug dealers might lose them votes!!!!!!!!!!!

You spelled 'your life' wrong.
 
taxslave
#97
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


Taxslave -are you REALLY TRYING to tell us that the recent spike in drug/opiod deaths are the result of LIE-berals cutting back on legal prescriptions????????????????????????????????


That is the most ABSURD thing I have ever heard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Some years back I was in hospital with a serious spinal chord injury and I got a WHOLE LOT OF DRUGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Started with Morphine and then they DOUBLED the dose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then they switched to some kind of Synthetic Morphine.....................and then they doubled the dose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then they switched me to Percocet........you know the stuff I mean- that infamous Hillbilly Heroin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And GUESS WHAT??????????????????????????????????
You can STOP TAKING THAT STUFF COLD TURKEY without any ill effects!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!
Anybody who wants to claim they suffered medical problems from being cut off a LEGAL PRESCRIPTION IS A LIAR OF FANTASTIC PROPORTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AS i said in my recent post about addicted natives- our LIE-beral overlords DO NOT GIVE A SH+T ABOUT NATIVE ADDICTS!!!!!!!!!!!!
And taxslave- your meally mouth whining about people hatmed by LEGAL prescriptions is BULLSH+T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I also pointed out that LIE-berals do not care to waste their GRAVY on cops who could seek out and cut off supplies of prescription drugs that are apparently being badly abused!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am living proof that NO PATIENT taking LEGALLY PRESCRIBED Opiods will be harmed in any way by getting cut off cold turkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had 3/4 of a bottle of Percocet LEFT OVER and UN-NEEDED when the injury healed up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And I gave those pills back to the doctor for safe disposal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you got a lot to learn about drugs sunshine.
 
petros
#98
Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

I'm sure you saw this posted before. but are just ignoring it because you hate canadians and americans, and wish we were all dead so you can sneak in and take over.
'Record' fentanyl drug bust made at US-Mexico border
US Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) has announced their largest ever seizure of the synthetic opioid drug fentanyl.
Agents on Saturday found 254 lbs (114kg) of fentanyl, as well as 395 lbs of methamphetamine in a lorry at an official US-Mexico border crossing.
A "false floor" was found in the produce truck, said Michael Humphries, who commands the Nogales checkpoint on the Arizona-Mexico border.
The lorry's Mexican driver has been arrested and charged with drug dealing.
According to Mr Humphries, the cargo of fentanyl had an approximate black market value of $3.5m (£2.6m) and is considered so deadly that even a few salt-sized grains of it could kill a person.
According to the US Centers for Disease Control, fentanyl is the drug most involved in fatal overdoses around the country, accounting for around 18,000 deaths in 2016.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47066311
The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says in a recent report that fentanyl is now the drug most often involved in fatal overdoses across the country, accounting for more than 18,000, or almost 29 percent, of the 63,000 overdose fatalities in 2016.
https://globalnews.ca/news/4911804/u...-bust-arizona/
The bust also included nearly 400 pounds of methamphetamine.
http://fortune.com/2019/01/31/fentan...opioid-crisis/
Fentanyl bust 'enough to kill 26 million'
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44244688
2,066 Canadians died of opioid overdoses in the first half of 2018
https://globalnews.ca/news/4754876/o...a-deaths-2018/
That's why Hoid and his friends don't want a wall, not to mention the potential female, and child, rape victims...

If that counted the walking dead on street opiods and meth as well, B'y Jesus that'd be a wake up call.
 
Danbones
+1
#99
That would be "in addition to" I think

I lost my step brother ( a nuclear engineer) to a legal fentanyl addiction due to his survival of a brutal car accident with a broken spin.
The doctors were more worried about addicting him to the fentanyl and THEIR LICENSES than they were about the pain he was in.

So when the pain out ran the limit of his prescriptions, he hung him self.

RIP JER.
Miss you.
 
MHz
#100
Grief is not a good place to go but you have to have loved somebody before you can grieve over their death. That separation will either be repaired in the future or the time you did get to spend together was all you get and when grief is involved there were more good times than bad.
While grief is not something to avoid it should not take up more of a person's 'remaining time' (grief over being left behind is a different animal) that what is 'healthy'. A few people in that state might be able to lessen their grief is they consider that they are handling it better than if the deceased person was the survivor. Getting rid of the sobs in not a goal, letting other emotions come and go as surroundings dictate is as much of a 'recovery' as there has to be.


This post is going to move into some areas that your background will 'be helpful'. The history of the person 'I miss' is: she was born in 1916, caught the 1918 flu and had a high fever for 7 days and then 'recovered' except for 'certain changes'. 1970 her new Doctor recognized some symptoms that was specific to her type of history and 'atavin' was the 'cure' and for the occasional hysterics they were gone until her doc died and the new one wanted her on something else as her meds 'were addictive'. After 30 years of working perfectly the 'generic' did not work and other meds were given that had some horrible side effects. Things stayed that way until she died of old age a decade later.

Apparently there are not supposed to be any 'success stories' for the addictive variety unless you are part of the 'elite' then you can get heroin for a self induced hang-nail. To be clearer on why heroin is the drug of choice think of a race to get a phd within a certain amount of time and if you miss that date you do not get a job in that field. The set the bar at a level that you have to be taking in heroin the whole 4 years. Most of your $400/hr goes to pay for those same meds. Think of it as 'becoming a better chess player without having a natural ability'. In your case the pain was eased but he probably also was thinking a bit too clearly to be a 'sheeple'. In my case both parents were war veterans so the Government could do no wrong.
I suspect the people in pain are the ones targeted for 'treatment for their addiction' due to 'low IQ' and when the meds are taken away they are expected to live like nothing has changed or take their own life. The meds will get you addicted yet there are no meds available to anybody who walks in and can prove life does not match the 'quality standards written down' so they can get the meds to end it without the need to construct your own death machine.
The current trend is to allow 'doctors' to decide if somebody 2 and under is going to have a quality life or not. Might as well kill them early rather than later is a decision made by others. I wonder what the arguments look like from both sides weighing in on the subject or were 'the doctors' the only ones in the room when the vote was taken??
I'm also quite serious about people facing a life of misery get to act as their own doctors as far as life being a 'blessing' or a 'curse'. Going from a healthy body to a broken one that hurts you should be one of the cases where the patient is also 'the expert on the matter'.
There would be more bodies and methods of death might be 'a brothel for the dying' and then 'in the morning the cremations take place. The scary part is the current elite do not all score high on an IQ test that covers 'natural abilities' rather than what somebody with a phd has taken (as taught rather than it is fact or fiction).

They are protecting themselves rather than saving mankind from themselves, sorry, 'ourselves'.
I wonder if 'manna' in the corrupt version of the OT was heroin.
 
Hoid
#101
https://globalnews.ca/news/4458136/o...opioid-crisis/

Dispensing Harm How a handful of pharmacists flooded Ontario’s streets with lethal fentanyl amid a national opioid crisis
 
spilledthebeer
#102
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

you got a lot to learn about drugs sunshine.


I am NOT the one trying to defend LIE-beral MISS - handling of OPIODS as you are taxslave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

 
spilledthebeer
#103
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

https://globalnews.ca/news/4458136/o...opioid-crisis/

Dispensing Harm How a handful of pharmacists flooded Ontario’s streets with lethal fentanyl amid a national opioid crisis


OH HOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You have just CONFIRMED WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!


That LAZY LIE-berals are SOFT ON CRIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


That GREEDY LIE-berals see no reason to waste their gravy on fighting crime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!



If it is "only a handful" of offenders as you say then WHY DO LIE-BERALS NOT ACT AGAINST the clowns causing the "crisis"??????



Or should we assume that LIE-berals are- as usual- more focused on BUYING VOTES than in upsetting drug dealers and their customers???????????????????????????


Congratulations HOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


you have MASTERED the fine LIE-beral art of simultaneous "SUCK AND BLOW"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
petros
#104
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

the issue is very much prescribed pills - and a coordinated campaign to misinform doctors as to the side effects of the drug

Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

https://globalnews.ca/news/4458136/o...opioid-crisis/
Dispensing Harm How a handful of pharmacists flooded Ontario’s streets with lethal fentanyl amid a national opioid crisis

If you have a mind please make it up.

Your evidence for Dr's causing the problem is posting a link to pharmacists backdooring dope?

Please explain in full how the two tie together.
 
spilledthebeer
#105
Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

That would be "in addition to" I think

I lost my step brother ( a nuclear engineer) to a legal fentanyl addiction due to his survival of a brutal car accident with a broken spin.
The doctors were more worried about addicting him to the fentanyl and THEIR LICENSES than they were about the pain he was in.

So when the pain out ran the limit of his prescriptions, he hung him self.

RIP JER.
Miss you.


Sorry- I think you are MISSING THE MAJOR ISSUE HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


My own mother was in considerable pain for a decade before she died............and she too constantly CRIED FOR MORE DRUGS!!!!!!!



Just as your brother apparently did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


I do not know your brother or his motives or mind set..........................but I DID KNOW MY MOTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And she did not want the drugs for PHYSICAL PAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


She was dying..............................


Her life had become very limited....................................


Unable to even go to the bathroom on her own...............................


Needing to be diapered.......................................... ..


Spending her days staring out the window and waiting for DEATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Given her mental state................siting there ALL DAY/ EVERY DAY............helpless.............hopeless...... ..................


no life left..............and wondering..............................


will I know when I die?????????????????????


Will it HURT MUCH?????????????????????


How long will it take????????????????????????


Is there an afterlife?????????????


Will I go to HELL or to PURGATORY?????????????????????????



Why am I being punished like this since other people die with much less pain and fuss in shorter time??????????????????????


She was bored out of her mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Scared out of her mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


is it ANY WONDER she was in "pain"????????????????????????????????


I suggest your bother was in much the same sort of MENTAL PAIN as my mother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And there aint no drug that can fix that mental pain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


My mother wanted to be heavily sedated and to put her mind at rest while sleeping through the last days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But the drugs - administered as she desired - would have SHORTENED HER LIFE and that was NOT ALLOWED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The doctors are not responsible for the frustration and despair your brother clearly suffered from!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Any more than they are responsible for the despair my Mother went through!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Now of course we have that assisted dying/euthanasia crap and it has opened up another can of LIE-beral worms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals have been RATIONING HEALTH CARE for several decades now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the pressure to CLEAR HOSPITAL BEDS by encouraging euthanasia for the old and the seriously ill WILL BE GROWING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



If LIE-berals have their was they will end up creating the kind of "society" that George Orwell feared!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Frustrated LIE-berals are quite likely to create the kind of society on display in The Hunger Games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Consider yourself WARNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Hoid
#106
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

If you have a mind please make it up.

Your evidence for Dr's causing the problem is posting a link to pharmacists backdooring dope?

Please explain in full how the two tie together.

Explain to you how prescribed pills are linked to pharmacists?

That one might be a little bit over your head
 
Danbones
#107
"Prescribes" is a doctor thing hoid, pharmacists follow those orders.

The doctors were given faulty information on just how addictive opiates are and this was done by manufacturers like Purdue.
Then there are shipments of CHINESE opium coming across the border from Mexico a freakin ton at a time, and then there is the meth that apparently comes with it.

So the first set of walls we need are for people like you

10 Terrifying Facts About the Opiate Epidemic


1; Its Availability is Built on Faulty Science

Before the 1980s, opioids were used for short term pain, like for surgery and end of life care, but then in the January 10, 1980, issue of The New England Journal of Medicine a one paragraph letter to the editor was published that would change America. It was submitted by Dr. Herscel Jick and his graduate student, Jane Porter, who were from the Boston University Medical Center. The letter was entitled “Addiction Rare in Patients Treated with Narcotics.” It reads:

Recently, we examined our current files to determine the incidence of narcotic addiction in 39,946 hospitalized medical patients’ who were monitored consecutively. Although there were 11,882 patients who received at least one narcotic preparation, there were only four cases of reasonably well documented addiction in patients who had a history of addiction. The addiction was considered major in only one instance. The drugs implicated were meperidine in two patients, Percodan in one, and hydromorphone in one. We conclude that despite widespread use of narcotic drugs in hospitals, the development of addiction is rare in medical patients with no history of addiction.

What some people drew from this letter to the editor, which wasn’t peer-reviewed, was that less than one percent of people who use narcotics become addicted.

What wasn’t included with the letter were the actual results of their study. When people went back later to examine the results, they found out that his experiment was done over a short time and the subjects were given a small dose of narcotics in a controlled environment when they had acute pain. That is a whole lot different than giving someone narcotics they can take home and do whenever they want over a long period of time. In other words, Jick absolutely did not show that less than one percent of people get addicted to narcotics.

However, by the time people examined the results of his study, it was too late. In 1986, a paper citing it was published in Pain, which is a journal published by the International Association for the Study of Pain. In the paper, the authors, Dr. Russell Portnoy and Kathy Foley, said that their study found that opioids “…can be safely and effectively prescribed to selected patients with relatively little risk of producing the maladaptive behaviors which define opioid abuse.” In their study, out of 38 cancer patients with chronic pain who were given opioids over a short term, only two of them became addicted. The paper advises long term studies, which never happened.

Around the same time, several pharmaceutical companies, like Johnson & Johnson and Purdue Pharma, were developing their own opioid drugs. They started to market them to doctors in high end publications citing the Portnoy article and Jick’s letter to the editor. They even went as far to start non-profit groups to push the use of opioids for long term chronic pain, like back and neck pain, even though there were absolutely no studies that supported the idea that opioids should be used long term.

In 1996, the American Pain Society and the American Academy of Pain Management published a consensus, partially written by Portnoy, stating that opioids were addictive to less than 1% of users so doctors could prescribe opioids for chronic pain. Also in the consensus, they said that there was little risk that people will become addicted and/or overdose.

Of course, that consensus was dead wrong because it wasn’t based on facts, and opioids are addictive and do lead to overdoses.
https://www.toptenz.net/10-terrifyin...e-epidemic.php

Just like your "Opinions" hoid, which are based on nazicommisfacistglobalist talking points, not facts.
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taxslave
#108
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

I am NOT the one trying to defend LIE-beral MISS - handling of OPIODS as you are taxslave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

You also have no idea what you are yelling about.
 
spilledthebeer
#109
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

You also have no idea what you are yelling about.




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals have completely LOST IT where drug addiction and natives are concerned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


At every turn LIE-berals are more focused on buying votes than in resolving problems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral policy is so BAD they have no idea what to do with addicts in the big city- much less how to deal with addicts on a native reserve where undercover cops stand out like a sore thumb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








Officials declare state of emergency over drug crisis on Stoney Nakoda First Nation. By Michele Jarvie, Postmedia. First posted: Sunday, July 24, 2016 07:10 PM EDT | Updated: Monday, July 25, 2016 11:26 AM EDT

(With some comments of my own in brackets):

Topic: The opioid crisis. The three First Nations bands near Morley are in a crisis situation over extremely high rates of prescription drug addictions and overdoses among members.

With addiction rates surging as high as 60% among adult members of the reserve, Stoney Nakoda has declared a state of emergency.

“We had something like 139 deaths attributed to opiates within a two-year period on the nation,” said Lindsay Blackett, CEO of the Chiniki band, one of three that comprise Stoney Nakoda.

“There’s only 6,000 people on the whole reserve so that’s a significant number vis-à-vis the population.”

A program started in 1986 monitors the use of medications prone to misuse and abuse. The Triplicate Prescription Program (TPP) is administered by the College of Physicians & Surgeons of Alberta and includes agencies like Alberta Health, Alberta College of Pharmacists and Alberta Dental Association.

The program collects prescribing and dispensing data for a range of drugs including fentanyl, methadone and Oxycodone.

With Alberta physicians being the highest prescribers of codeine-containing medications in the country, according to the CPSA, painkillers containing codeine and two widely used anti-anxiety drugs, Ativan and Valium, were added to the watch list in 2015.

If the TPP system detects certain parameters, such as clients using more than one pharmacy or doctor, or getting more than a certain amount of drugs, a letter is sent to the prescribing physician. Last year, 3,277 warning letters were sent.

(And does ANYBODY MONITOR the results-if any-that are produced by the warning letter? Given the alleged 60 percent addiction rates, my guess is Not Often!)

“There are very specific flags that would result in a letter being sent,” said Donna Call, a media spokesperson for the College.

An adviser meets with the physician to discuss the treatment plan, and where necessary, provide more education and resources to improve prescribing practices. Call said discipline would only be considered if a physician is found to be engaging in criminal behaviour or refuses a recommended intervention.

(Oh right-a doctor who is being bribed or blackmailed into supplying LOTS of Opiates will be VERY RESPONSIVE to `education` from `do-good` donkeys. They or the patients might even start using forged documents and fake names for their prescriptions-I am sure that sort of thing will cure the problem?)

The CPSA recognized the issue in its April newsletter, The Messenger. “We recognize physician prescribing habits are a direct contributor to opiates misuse.” It has developed some initiatives to address that including high-risk interventions with physicians whose prescribing practices could lead to harm, and computerized comparisons of prescribing.

(Prescribing practices have been recognized as a problem in Toronto area methadone clinics even with easy access to medical records and police oversight and its still a problem. How much harder will the `cure` be out in the woods?)

Prescription drug abuse has a tragic history on many of Canada’s reserves despite the efforts of indigenous leaders and health officials to combat the problem.

Between 1986 and 1988, at least 42 indigenous people died from prescription drug overdoses.

In 1994, the Alberta Chief Medical Examiner and the College of Physicians and Surgeons investigated 15 overdose deaths on the Eden Valley reserve, population 450, and how easily and often the victims got their pills from doctors.

And in 1997, the federal Auditor-General condemned health programs for indigenous people, saying prescription drug abuse on Alberta reserves was the highest in the country. The stats showed that in one three-month period in 1996, more than 700 First Nations people across the country received at least 50 prescriptions and almost 1,600 were prescribed more than 15 different drugs. In both cases, Alberta accounted for more than half the national total.

A followup A-G report in 2006 found little had changed. “We found that some of the recommendations that would likely make a significant difference in the lives and well-being of First Nations people and Inuit were not being implemented or that progress was unsatisfactory,” read Sheila Fraser’s Status Report.

(In other words either doctor greed or doctor fear are thwarting legitimate efforts to regulate deadly drugs- as has been happening in Toronto methadone clinics!)

It found that Health Canada had not conducted any analysis of prescription drug use or analyzed data on drug-related deaths of its clients since 1999. The audit also determined that the number of clients obtaining more than 50 prescriptions over a three-month period had almost tripled compared with the 2000 audit.

(This lack of Health Canada action is apparently a direct result of over-lapping areas of responsibility-provincial health care managers and federal health care types each looking to the other for leadership. With resource funds limited by LIE-beral funding of the civil service gravy train-the more money spent on perks and frills and solid gold pensions for civil service Hogs-the LESS MONEY there is for solving real problems! With the added bonus that LIE-berals do not want to expose the native voters they have bought. at our cost, as drug addled twits- there might be calls to alter LIE-beral policy if such a scandalous exposure was made! )

mjarvie at postmedia
 
B00Mer
#110
Fentanyl weeds out the losers in society.. we need more on the streets.

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...hs-in-november

Buh Bye
 
taxslave
+1
#111
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

Fentanyl weeds out the losers in society.. we need more on the streets.
https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...hs-in-november
Buh Bye

Can't be true. I distinctly recall during the last election campaign our current Premier saying his party would end the fentanyl crisis. That was getting close to 2 years ago. A Dippers would never lie to the voters would he?
 
MHz
#112
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Can't be true. I distinctly recall during the last election campaign our current Premier saying his party would end the fentanyl crisis. That was getting close to 2 years ago. A Dippers would never lie to the voters would he?

Goes to show the 'weeding out' should be from the top down rather than the bottom up. (that never goes further than the bottom feeders)
Why would big pharma want fewer deaths in any group designated as 'useless eater'.
 
spilledthebeer
#113
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Can't be true. I distinctly recall during the last election campaign our current Premier saying his party would end the fentanyl crisis. That was getting close to 2 years ago. A Dippers would never lie to the voters would he?




Oh now............Our idiot Boy Justin is working hard to end the fentanyl crisis ....................by having antidote kits on every street corner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If nobody dies then the "crisis" is "over"??


Right??????????????????????


Of course it will suit LIE-berals JUST FINE if Cdns become a nation of addicts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


After all......addicts require ALL SORTS OF GOVT AID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And that means LIE-berals will be able to BUY VOTES CHEAP so they can cling to power at any price!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This is why LIE-berals have been discussing LEGALIZING HEROIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


They will get a nation of DEPENDENT ADDICTS using CLEAN GOVT PRODUCED OPIODS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals can then boast of creating good jobs in pharmacuetical companies AND can cling to power using the votes of desperate addicts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Its a win/win for LIE-berals but not so good for clean and sober citizens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
B00Mer
+1
#114
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Goes to show the 'weeding out' should be from the top down rather than the bottom up. (that never goes further than the bottom feeders)
Why would big pharma want fewer deaths in any group designated as 'useless eater'.

Where would you like me to send your Fentanyl prescription MHz.
 
MHz
#115
Same address I gave pete when he was going to send a Mooshead hit squad to my door. Try to mail it from out of Province would you,
 
taxslave
+1
#116
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

Where would you like me to send your Fentanyl prescription MHz.

Just put it in an Amazon box and leave it outside. Some porch pirate will get it.
 
MHz
#117
Thanks, . . . . the use of the Post Office for illegal activities would have netted him some serious time. Odds are it would be the worst stuff in his inventory.
 
B00Mer
#118
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Thanks, . . . . the use of the Post Office for illegal activities would have netted him some serious time. Odds are it would be the worst stuff in his inventory.

You are a moron. Seriously.

I mean, you are so fukking stupid, how do you manage to get by from day to day is beyond me.
 
spilledthebeer
#119
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Grief is not a good place to go but you have to have loved somebody before you can grieve over their death. That separation will either be repaired in the future or the time you did get to spend together was all you get and when grief is involved there were more good times than bad.
While grief is not something to avoid it should not take up more of a person's 'remaining time' (grief over being left behind is a different animal) that what is 'healthy'. A few people in that state might be able to lessen their grief is they consider that they are handling it better than if the deceased person was the survivor. Getting rid of the sobs in not a goal, letting other emotions come and go as surroundings dictate is as much of a 'recovery' as there has to be.


This post is going to move into some areas that your background will 'be helpful'. The history of the person 'I miss' is: she was born in 1916, caught the 1918 flu and had a high fever for 7 days and then 'recovered' except for 'certain changes'. 1970 her new Doctor recognized some symptoms that was specific to her type of history and 'atavin' was the 'cure' and for the occasional hysterics they were gone until her doc died and the new one wanted her on something else as her meds 'were addictive'. After 30 years of working perfectly the 'generic' did not work and other meds were given that had some horrible side effects. Things stayed that way until she died of old age a decade later.

Apparently there are not supposed to be any 'success stories' for the addictive variety unless you are part of the 'elite' then you can get heroin for a self induced hang-nail. To be clearer on why heroin is the drug of choice think of a race to get a phd within a certain amount of time and if you miss that date you do not get a job in that field. The set the bar at a level that you have to be taking in heroin the whole 4 years. Most of your $400/hr goes to pay for those same meds. Think of it as 'becoming a better chess player without having a natural ability'. In your case the pain was eased but he probably also was thinking a bit too clearly to be a 'sheeple'. In my case both parents were war veterans so the Government could do no wrong.
I suspect the people in pain are the ones targeted for 'treatment for their addiction' due to 'low IQ' and when the meds are taken away they are expected to live like nothing has changed or take their own life. The meds will get you addicted yet there are no meds available to anybody who walks in and can prove life does not match the 'quality standards written down' so they can get the meds to end it without the need to construct your own death machine.
The current trend is to allow 'doctors' to decide if somebody 2 and under is going to have a quality life or not. Might as well kill them early rather than later is a decision made by others. I wonder what the arguments look like from both sides weighing in on the subject or were 'the doctors' the only ones in the room when the vote was taken??
I'm also quite serious about people facing a life of misery get to act as their own doctors as far as life being a 'blessing' or a 'curse'. Going from a healthy body to a broken one that hurts you should be one of the cases where the patient is also 'the expert on the matter'.
There would be more bodies and methods of death might be 'a brothel for the dying' and then 'in the morning the cremations take place. The scary part is the current elite do not all score high on an IQ test that covers 'natural abilities' rather than what somebody with a phd has taken (as taught rather than it is fact or fiction).

They are protecting themselves rather than saving mankind from themselves, sorry, 'ourselves'.
I wonder if 'manna' in the corrupt version of the OT was heroin.




Oh POOR MHz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


So what you are saying is that mental illness runs in your family!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


And apparently drug addiction runs in the family as well??????????????


I guess that explains your self professed interest in LSD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


No WONDER you had to immigrate to a western country where your addictions and mania would be tolerated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I wonder what kind of drugs one would have to take in order to welcome a LIE-beral mind set??????????????????

 
Billy1
#120
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