Capitalism will save this world


Cliffy
-1
#1531
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

He is more grounded in reality than you .Did your extinct tribe get on the gravy train yet ? Is your honorary membership going to get you on the gravy train ?

Your ignorance is only foreshadowed by Wally's.
 
Cliffy
-1
#1532
"We see your tech no logical society devour you before your very eyes we hear your anguished cries exalting greed through progress while you seek material advances the sound of flowers dying carry messages through the wind trying to tell you about balance and your safety
But your minds are chained to your machines and the strings dangling from your puppeteers hands turning you, twisting you into forms and confusions beyond your control
Your mind for a job your mind for a t.v. your mind for a hair dryer your mind for consumption.
With your atom bombs your material bombs your drug bombs your racial bombs your class bombs your sexist bombs your ageist bombs
Devastating your natural shelters making you homeless on earth chasing you into illusions fooling you, making you pretend you can run away from the ravishing of your spirit
While the sound of flowers dying carry messages through the wind trying to tell you about balance and your safety."
- John Trudell "Look At Us"
 
MHz
#1533
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

You really don't have a clue how the world works, do you, Wally.

He knows, so do all capitalists, that is why it is never spoken about very much.

Welcome to the Yukon Gold Rush.

Last edited by MHz; Jan 18th, 2019 at 02:37 PM..
 
Curious Cdn
+1
#1534
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

He knows, so do all capitalists, that is why it is never spoken about very much.
Welcome to the Yukon Gold Rush.

I've walked on those tailings. They keep working them over and over and they keep finding more gold in them.
 
MHz
#1535
They would be a good example of a Government make work program. The Gov has the money to do a 3D map as part of the planning stage as it would set the processing steps as well as the final landscaping. Using the photo above the river would be changed as the untouched area would be included and as the piles are moved the bedrock has to washed and vacuumed bare. I mention that as the water would have allowed gold to sink lower than the original dig could clean out. 1,000 machines that are all owner operator with the Gov financing it all and buying the machines back at the end of about 20 years of hard work.

White water gold would be a blessing to the chopper industry. When the Gold Rush show was on they had to move a big rock from upstream and when it stopped downstream of the hole they were cleaning out it raised the level of the water a bit. If they added to that the water coming past the hole would be a few feet higher and at a low flow rate the hole should be in 'calmer water'. The tailings could be added to the dam so it was in place year after year and every 10 years they would clean the hole out again.
 
Curious Cdn
#1536
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

They would be a good example of a Government make work program. The Gov has the money to do a 3D map as part of the planning stage as it would set the processing steps as well as the final landscaping. Using the photo above the river would be changed as the untouched area would be included and as the piles are moved the bedrock has to washed and vacuumed bare. I mention that as the water would have allowed gold to sink lower than the original dig could clean out. 1,000 machines that are all owner operator with the Gov financing it all and buying the machines back at the end of about 20 years of hard work.
White water gold would be a blessing to the chopper industry. When the Gold Rush show was on they had to move a big rock from upstream and when it stopped downstream of the hole they were cleaning out it raised the level of the water a bit. If they added to that the water coming past the hole would be a few feet higher and at a low flow rate the hole should be in 'calmer water'. The tailings could be added to the dam so it was in place year after year and every 10 years they would clean the hole out again.

Not final landscaping yet. Those Klondike Creek tailings have been re-worked something like nine times over and they are probably still economical to mine again.
 
Cliffy
#1537
 
Walter
+1
#1538
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Because they believed socialism would create Utopia. (I finished the speaking bubble.)
 
pgs
+4
#1539
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Funny everywhere I look I see us cleaning up the mess of the past . False Creek here in Vancouver is a prime example of a catastrophic wasteland . When Iwas a boy it was a sewage pit full of heavy metals and sludge , today it is clean and supporting marine life . We used to heat our homes with wood and coal causing air pollution, with the change to natural gas the air pollution has fallen drastically. We also reclaim the land after mining . Generally speaking we have cleaned up our collective act considerably in the last 50 years .
But then of course we have the native reserves rhetoric haven’t changed at all in those 50 years . Need car parts go route around the Rez .
 
DaSleeper
+1
#1540
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Funny everywhere I look I see us cleaning up the mess of the past . False Creek here in Vancouver is a prime example of a catastrophic wasteland . When Iwas a boy it was a sewage pit full of heavy metals and sludge , today it is clean and supporting marine life . We used to heat our homes with wood and coal causing air pollution, with the change to natural gas the air pollution has fallen drastically. We also reclaim the land after mining . Generally speaking we have cleaned up our collective act considerably in the last 50 years .
But then of course we have the native reserves rhetoric haven’t changed at all in those 50 years . Need car parts go route around the Rez .

That's what you call cleaning up to achieve a tangible goal, not a pipe dream.
Years ago the paper mill here in Kapuskasing cleaned up it's effluent with the use of clarifiers..
It only took a few years and instead of dead fish in the bay downstream fron the mill you could see "fingerlings"....Fish were actually spawning there, instead of dying!


Now there is the problem of mercury level in fish because of a couple of hydro electric dams up river from Kapuskasing that were built after....?
Last edited by DaSleeper; Jan 20th, 2019 at 10:35 AM..
 
petros
+2
#1541
Try building something without putting down a hefty reclamation bond. The way Cliff talks the Govt should be raking in $100 of millions a month in foreited bonds.
 
Curious Cdn
#1542
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Try building something without putting down a hefty reclamation bond. The way Cliff talks the Govt should be raking in $100 of millions a month in foreited bonds.

Maybe they would get if the "fix" wasn't in.
 
petros
+1
#1543
It's rigged is it?
 
MHz
#1544
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Because they believed socialism would create Utopia. (I finished the speaking bubble.)

Why would an out and out Dictator feel compelled to lie about being a Dictator? The IMF on the other hand is the ones that originally made promises that allowed foreign investment, 'big oil' rather than 'big farming' in this case. How would that differ from this 'conspiracy introduction' .
the country in question. Before the IMF got interested in the oil they had gone through Central America and gobbled up all the land for the United Fruit Growers and further south the coke was a nice addition to the global drug industry that was already in place, legally through 'big pharma' or illegally through the 'Black Market'.
The contracts introduced by the IMF were priced at bring a 3rd world country (1950) into being what Kuwait was thanks to the oil in the ground and signing on the dotted line. Reality is 15% of the contract was fulfilled and just 'the elite' saw those changes, such as power and telephone and running water. The Military was trained to protect the interests of the 15% from any action started thy the 85% of the people whose lives had not only not improved (as promised) but had gotten worse as the money spent on them should have been exported along with the oil to the only people who mattered, the owners of the IMF.
The trend is not unique, it is a standard move for the IMF and a revolt usually happen about 25 years later. I'll let you ponder on why the core people are university students who are the only people in the country to know anything about what goes on outside of their immediate community. They moved to 4th world conditions rather than 2nd world by people who turned out to be liars and thieves, you kind of people, Right?
 
MHz
#1545
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post


Now there is the problem of mercury level in fish because of a couple of hydro electric dams up river from Kapuskasing that were built after....?

What kind of cooling fluids do the transformers use? That is the same chemical peat is supposed to release into the river when it is excavated and dried out and rock from a diamond mine replaces it. I tend to see peas as being something that could de dried and baled and used as insulation. Make a house with a wall cavity a foot deep and it should be able to be used there and replaced every fall from a local supply, just about free and renewable at the same cost.
Will a diamond float on mercury?
 
petros
+1
#1546
Transformers use humic acid?

Or is humic acid used to accelerate the breakdown the C in PCB which hasn't been used in transformers for decades?

Did you get another vaccine? You're deep-ending again.
 
DaSleeper
+1
#1547
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Transformers use humic acid?

Or is humic acid used to accelerate the breakdown the C in PCB which hasn't been used in transformers for decades?

Did you get another vaccine? You're deep-ending again.

Maybe the monkey typewriter theorem will come true for him someday!
 
petros
+2
#1548
He is from Rotten Monkey House AB.
 
MHz
#1549
It was a question, unless you were did who did the tests yourself you have no idea what the contaminant is. Ever heard of a criminal that lies, like the retard you are. Why do the ones around the lake not get mentioned as being poisoned.

https://forestsociety.org/news-artic...levels-mercury
OTTAWA — Protests. Hunger strikes. Sit-ins that disrupt construction. At the immense Muskrat Falls hydroelectric dam project in a remote and rugged part of Labrador, the indigenous people who live nearby have been raising louder and louder alarms.
But it is not about the dam itself. The controversy is over what will flow from it.
The protests are focused on a mostly overlooked side effect of hydroelectric projects all over Canada: The reservoirs behind the dams tend to develop high levels of methyl mercury, leading to mercury poisoning among people who eat fish or game caught downstream.
 
MHz
#1550
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

He is from Rotten Monkey House AB.

You spelled Grovedale wrong few miles down Hwy 666.
 
MHz
#1551
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

Maybe the monkey typewriter theorem will come true for him someday!

I think it was the link to the Christian section that caused the blow-out. For your own safety I won't let that out as I was following your guidelines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv6t...VPNoE&index=27

Like it does for you, still waiting, . . . . . A blizzard inside and outside at your place eh? Oh well, each day is a day closer to the next life, ignore the tick clock sound.
Last edited by MHz; Jan 20th, 2019 at 07:35 PM..
 
Curious Cdn
-1
#1552
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Funny everywhere I look I see us cleaning up the mess of the past . False Creek here in Vancouver is a prime example of a catastrophic wasteland . When Iwas a boy it was a sewage pit full of heavy metals and sludge , today it is clean and supporting marine life . We used to heat our homes with wood and coal causing air pollution, with the change to natural gas the air pollution has fallen drastically. We also reclaim the land after mining . Generally speaking we have cleaned up our collective act considerably in the last 50 years .
But then of course we have the native reserves rhetoric haven’t changed at all in those 50 years . Need car parts go route around the Rez .

A condo community populated by wall-to-wall entitled Yupees isn't a catastrophic wasteland?
 
MHz
+1
#1553
Depends on the fire proofing and the quake-proofing and at least they are bottled up and can't infect the real world from a single location.
 
Cliffy
#1554
 
petros
+2
#1555
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

The same way US "Big Oil and Gas" uses shitheads like you?

Make a meme of this:

Mainstream environmental groups have struggled to find the right line on shale natural gas and the hydraulic fracturing or fracking process. Gas has a much smaller carbon footprint than coal—according to most scientists—and produces far fewer air pollutants. That was enough for many major green groups to give support to gas as a “bridge fuel” to a cleaner energy future—the next best domestic alternative to coal as an electricity source while alternatives like wind and solar scaled up. But for grassroots members of those groups—especially in parts of the country where fracking was already underway—the risk of local pollution wasn’t worth the national and global climate benefits of greater gas consumption, especially as media and scientific attention on the potential threats to water supplies grew. It was a major challenge for environmental leaders: how to balance local concerns about traditional pollution with planet-sized worries over climate change, and how to work with corporate America without being seen as selling out.

Now the biggest and oldest environmental group in the U.S. finds itself caught on the horns of that dilemma. TIME has learned that between 2007 and 2010 the Sierra Club accepted over $25 million in donations from the gas industry, mostly from Aubrey McClendon, CEO of Chesapeake Energy—one of the biggest gas drilling companies in the U.S. and a firm heavily involved in fracking—to help fund the Club’s Beyond Coal campaign. Though the group ended its relationship with Chesapeake in 2010—and the Club says it turned its back on an additional $30 million in promised donations—the news raises concerns about influence industry may have had on the Sierra Club’s independence and its support of natural gas in the past. It’s also sure to anger ordinary members who’ve been uneasy about the Club’s relationship with corporations. “The chapter groups and volunteers depend on the Club to have their back as they fight pollution from any industry, and we need to be unrestrained in our advocacy,” Michael Brune, the Sierra Club’s executive director since 2010, told me. “The first rule of advocacy is that you shouldn’t take money from industries and companies you’re trying to change.”
 
petros
+2
#1556
Oopsies!
 
pgs
+1
#1557
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Oopsies!

Tell me it is not true . All this time working for the man .
 
Cliffy
#1558
 
coldstream
#1559
Veganism undercuts human's fundamental need for protein found in meat and dairy.

Fossil fuels are by far and away the most ecologically practical and efficient methods of producing energy. The so called green methods (wind, solar) are far more environmentally destructive and expensive.

If the Environmentalists actually concentrated on real problems of small scale environmental responsibility , including plastics, and, smog they might actually produce some useful results. As it stands they've been completely distracted by the Eco-fascists agenda of radical depopulation in support of some kind of eviro-utopia. All that is invested in the pseudo science and cult of AGW. It's all hopeless and self defeating.
 
petros
+1
#1560
IF there were a "climate crisis" due to fossil fuels we wouldn't be limiting oil consumption to 90,000,000 bbls per day. It would have to be all or nothing.

Kinda like how fast the world reacted to SARS.
 

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