Trans Mountain ‘pipeline is going to get built’: Trudeau dismisses B.C.’s bitumen ban


MHz
+1
#2101
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Back down on what?

some pie in the sky solution to pipelines that he can't even describe?

You can't create a place inside of Canada where our laws don't apply.

Poor health in all Hudson Bay Villages, Residential Schools, Government Hospitals, those are all places where the Government of Canada made the law go away so these people could be tortured with immunity for the ones doing the experiments. The jails are full of the wrong people.
 
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spilledthebeer
+1
#2102
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Nobody has any deal to illegally dump sewage.

Except you and the other natty's who dump your deplorable views here daily.

Look at that guy. He's getting g away with speeding. I should be allowed to get away with murder




IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


HemerHOID says "nobody has any deal to illegally dump sewage"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral FAKE ENVIRONMENTALISTS ARE Dumping sewage LEGALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Because LIE-beral HYPOCRITES MAKE THE LAWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


HemerHOID thinks STUPID LIE-beral word games.....................................


will distract from CRIMINAL LIE-beral actions over things like Lavalin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


an the Ontari-owe gas plant scandal..............................


and the Sudbury bribery scandal...................................


and the LIE-beral lawsuit launched against Andrew Scheer for talking about Lavalin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And now we can see that the LIE-beral lawsuit against Scheer is loaded with exactly the same LIE-beral BULLSHIT..................


as the LIE-beral lawsuit against Tim Hudak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


BULLSH+T and gravy are all that LIE-berals understand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Chretien BULL SH+T pumped out from that LIE-beral super charged manure spreading propaganda machine......................


DID NOT MAKE CDNS FORGET............................


about the THREE BILLION DOLLAR ADSCAM THEFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


LIE-beral LIES did not persuade Cdns to forget that it was a DRUNKEN, lazy, INCOMPETENT............................


civil service union HOG..........................................


coupled with CHEAP ASS local politicians....................................... .


who IGNORED recommendations to locate drinking water wells in SAFER PLACES.................................


MEANING NOT PUTTING WELLS IN EASILY CONTAMINATED SWAMPS.....................................



who were behind the Walkerton Water Disaster ..................................


that KILLED seven Cdns and crippled many more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral Fake News......................................


CANNOT HIDE THE FAILURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


IN OTHER NEWS..............................................


as Toronto wrestles with record violence that is a DIRECT RESULT...............................


OF MISS-GUIDED LIE-beral immigration policy.............................


coupled with LIE-beral hug a thug social justice MADNESS.......................................



is it a COINCIDENCE.............................


that LIE-berals have given Toronto cops just enough extra funding..............................


to make an extra push against crime...............................


with that extra cop funding ending..............................


right after THE FEDERAL ELECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


How STUPID are LIE-berals that they think they can FOOL us ...............................


with a ten week anti crime blitz........................................


and then go back to catch and release LIE-beral CRAP right after the election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


All LIE-beral policy HAS FAILED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Even their SIX HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR SLUSH FUND..................................


intended to BUY GOOD PRESS from Cdn media that LIE-berals TRUST....................................


HAS FAILED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral friendly Cdn media whores desperately want access to that heap of LIE-beral SLUSH CASH.....................................


but the LIE-beral whores NEED to retain SOME public credibility means the media whores MUST REPORT...........................


on the LIES that LIE-berals have been telling about Lavalin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


At this time IT IS NOT POSSIBLE for LIE-berals to BUY GOOD PRESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral friendly Cdn media whores DO NOT want to GET CAUGHT..............................


deliberately repeating obvious LIE-beral Lies ..................................



and thus getting SUNK by an enraged public along with the LIE-beral ship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
petros
+2
#2103
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Now, maybe their interference in Canadian affairs will go down.
What will the Alberta separatists do now, without a big time US sponsor?

They didn't do anything, they held leases.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#2104
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

They didn't do anything, they held leases.

They control media who probably control you.
 
spilledthebeer
#2105
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Poor health in all Hudson Bay Villages, Residential Schools, Government Hospitals, those are all places where the Government of Canada made the law go away so these people could be tortured with immunity for the ones doing the experiments. The jails are full of the wrong people.




Tell us how you got out of the asylum and maybe................................


we will change some things??????????????????????????

 
spilledthebeer
+1
#2106
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

They control media who probably control you.




I NOTICE that there does not appear to have been a single meter or yard..................................


of oil pipe installed ALL THIS SUMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And I NOTE that there HAS BEEN NO PROGRESS in negotiations with native protestors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And I NOTE that Our idiot Boy HAS NOT YET DECIDED........................................... ..........


whether the Kinder Morgan pipeline WILL or should EVER BE BUILT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Thus I CONCLUDE.......................................... .....


that Our idiot Boy Justin......................................


is a DAMNED LIAR........................................


who only bought the Kinder Morgan pipeline for $4.7 BILLION DOLLARS.......................................


so he would not piss off Yankee investors....................................


when he KILLED not just the Kinder pipeline....................................


but KILLED the ENTIRE Alberta Oil PATCH AS WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!


JUST AS HE PROMISED back in 2015!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Our idiot Boy is quite prepared to CRIPPLE OUR ECONOMY....................................


for grossly selfish personal ideals............................................ ....


and the chance to steal some voters away from the NDP and Greenies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+2
#2107
Some truth, some embellishing, and some outright BS in this article

Cover-ups, lies ‘a systemic cancer’ in world of oilpatch health and safety breaches: whistleblower s

On a large level safety created this monster by pushing to far and making a lot of us to work in the grey area of the policies. The main person of interest in the article should have never ever been there alone, even still should have been moving cross wind before even looking at his monitor. Why was there oil, fluids and gas blowing out from the underground valve? Why would there be a scud pack in the middle of nowhere, where the work was completed? Lots don't add up in his story I think he is looking for a payout. The 4 anonymous story's do have validity to them, shit happens nobody encourages non reporting of minor incidents, but nobody can afford strikes against them, workers or owners (grey area).

Oh yeah read the article before commenting Hoid, don't make a fool of yourself
Last edited by Twin_Moose; 3 weeks ago at 04:31 PM..
 
spilledthebeer
#2108
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Some truth, some embellishing, and some outright BS in this article

Cover-ups, lies ‘a systemic cancer’ in world of oilpatch health and safety breaches: whistleblower s

On a large level safety created this monster by pushing to far and making a lot of us to work in the grey area of the policies. The main person of interest in the article should have never ever been there alone, even still should have been moving cross wind before even looking at his monitor. Why was there oil, fluids and gas blowing out from the underground valve? Why would there be a scud pack in the middle of nowhere, where the work was completed? Lots don't add up in his story I think he is looking for a payout. The 4 anonymous story's do have validity to them, shit happens nobody encourages non reporting of minor incidents, but nobody can afford strikes against them, workers or owners (grey area).

Oh yeah read the article before commenting Hoid, don't make a fool of yourself


Isnt it ODD that hemerHOID...............................


delights in sneering at the oil patch...............................


BUT HAS NOTHING TO SAY......................................


about toxic metals and POISONING of workers at Samsung................................


nor does he have anything to say about several work stoppages.........................................


that have occurred at the Tesla factory................................


as a result of careless handling of highly TOXIC Lithium DUST......................


from battery production!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hypocrite, hemerHOID and LIE-beral......................


are ALL SYNONYMOUS WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+1
#2109
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

Isnt it ODD that hemerHOID...............................


delights in sneering at the oil patch...............................


BUT HAS NOTHING TO SAY......................................


about toxic metals and POISONING of workers at Samsung................................


nor does he have anything to say about several work stoppages.........................................


that have occurred at the Tesla factory................................


as a result of careless handling of highly TOXIC Lithium DUST......................


from battery production!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hypocrite, hemerHOID and LIE-beral......................


are ALL SYNONYMOUS WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





Regardless of Hoid's piffle, Pipeline contractors have been given 30 days to get equipment and materials in place to resume construction and do all necessary hiring!
 
spilledthebeer
#2110
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Regardless of Hoid's piffle, Pipeline contractors have been given 30 days to get equipment and materials in place to resume construction and do all necessary hiring!




OH REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And WHO ISSUED this "hurry up and wait" ORDER?????????????????????????????????????


After all we KNOW that LIE-berals have YET TO DEAL with ANY COMPLAINTS.......................


or any claims by native protestors........................................ ................


who LIE-berals ALLOWED to block the previous attempt at construction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!


And the "NO TANKERS IN CDN west coast WATER"...........................................


law has yet to be rescinded or even altered!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!


And WHEN did the environmental ASSESSMENT GET COMPLETED??????????????????????????


We have YET TO HEAR ANYTHING.....................................


about the gender influences related to the pipeline.......................................


as mandated by LIE-beral Feminazis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I think your claim about a quick start...............................


should be put in the nearest TOILET AND FLUSHED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!


AS it DESERVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Along with all the other LIE-beral policy CLAIMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Or you could always take the usual LIE-beral .....................


SHORT CUT...............................


and dump all your crap..........................


untreated and raw.............................


in the nearest ocean!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just have our airplane loving Climate Barbie dump it from her



govt plane on her way to some richly catered gab fest............





about the "CLIMATE EMERGENCY"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And aint it odd....................................


the biggest THREAT from the climate emergency........................................


seems to be related to the POLITICAL SURVIVAL OF LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Hoid
#2111
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Regardless of Hoid's piffle, Pipeline contractors have been given 30 days to get equipment and materials in place to resume construction and do all necessary hiring!

you heard it. 30 days.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#2112
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

OH REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




I think your claim about a quick start...............................


should be put in the nearest TOILET AND FLUSHED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!


AS it DESERVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And maybe your f**king head should be stuck in there with it...………………………...Idiot!
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
+1
#2113
rans Mountain to resume construction on pipeline expansion

https://globalnews.ca/news/5793914/t..._campaign=2019
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#2114
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

rans Mountain to resume construction on pipeline expansion

https://globalnews.ca/news/5793914/t..._campaign=2019

Trudeau just lost any seats he had in BC.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#2115
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Trudeau just lost any seats he had in BC.

Oh, but he just saved his Alberta seats !!
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+4
#2116
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Trudeau just lost any seats he had in BC.

Really ? Most of British Columbia support the pipeline .
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+3
#2117
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Trudeau just lost any seats he had in BC.


Actually, it's the best news most British Columbians have had in several months. Over 2,000 new jobs for starters.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+1
#2118
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

you heard it. 30 days.


What is the necessity of that post? Posting to see yourself post?
 
spilledthebeer
#2119
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

you heard it. 30 days.




Uh huh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What I HEARD...........................................


WAS THE ART........................................


of the political STALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals will encourage contractors..............................


TO THINK.....................................


there might be MOVEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


BUT THE ONLY MOVEMENT that LIE-berals want to see.......................................


is native protestors MOVING TO BLOCK ROADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


LIE-berals have decided THAT A LITTLE LOW COST ACTIVITY.......................................


that can be quickly SHUT DOWN...................................


in the FOUR WEEKS left before the election.......................................... ..........


makes FOR GOOD FAKERY AND POLITICAL POSTURING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And hemerHOID will point out there are currently EIGHT WEEKS left............................


till the election.......................................... .....


and WILL DELIBERATELY FORGET....................


that LIE-berals have already DISPOSED of FOUR WEEKS...................................


with their THIRTY DAY PREP TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


LIE-berals will tap dance UNTIL THE BITTER END!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!


Oil patch DECEIT AND DECEPTION are their stock in trade!!!!!!!!!!!!


If LIE-berals actually INTENDED to build the pipeline.............


they WOULD BE ANNOUNCING MAJOR DEALS .................


they had set up with native protestors.....................


and they would be making noises about moving cops..........


and THE MILITARY into the region to quell.....................


rioting armed protestors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+2
#2120
Matt Gurney: Trudeau gets a new pipeline headache — just in time for the federal election

Hear arguments on whether the new consultation process is enough, losing any chance to gain seats in the West
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+3
#2121
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Matt Gurney: Trudeau gets a new pipeline headache — just in time for the federal election

Hear arguments on whether the new consultation process is enough, losing any chance to gain seats in the West


This could be a blessing in disguise (as long as it's only a temporary set back) Anything that exacerbates people's discontent with Justin and eventually leads to the Asshole's exit from Ottawa is fine by me!
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#2122
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Regardless of Hoid's piffle, Pipeline contractors have been given 30 days to get equipment and materials in place to resume construction and do all necessary hiring!






Oh DEAR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!


Here it is early September......................................


and the LATEST AND GREATEST PIPELINE STALL is just in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



JUST AS I PREDICTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!












Trudeau gets a new pipeline headache — just in time for the federal election.

Here is an article exposing the LIE-beral FAKERY regarding oil pipelines!! With some comments of my own in brackets):

By Matt Gurney National Post

Published: Sept 5, 2019

On Wednesday morning, the worst thing Justin Trudeau had to deal with was getting panned for a less-than-great interview with Hasan Minhaj.

But by day’s end, an aggressive interview by the U.S. comedian was the least of the prime minister’s concerns. Justice David Stratas had seen to that.

Stratas, of the Federal Court of Appeal, has decided to allow six of 12 motions for judicial review of the federal government’s second approval of the bitterly controversial Trans Mountain pipeline expansion. The expansion would triple the pipeline’s capacity, bringing Alberta energy to the B.C. coast for export abroad. This is more than just an economic necessity for Alberta’s economy, a way of getting around the supply constraints that are depressing its oil sector. It is increasingly a national unity issue.

(I say Mr. Gurney is being naive if he thinks this ruling by the judge is a surprise to Our idiot Boy Justin!! I have said all along that Our idiot Boy is simply STALLING on the pipeline till AFTER the election!! If the LIE-berals win - then the pipeline AND the Cdn oil patch will be KILLED OFF - exactly as Our idiot Boy promised- back in 2015!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Yes - we should recall how Our idiot Boy told us he wanted to make ALL fossil fuels- even natural gas - so costly that we would voluntarily stop using the stuff!!!
But since then the idiot Boy has registered on how many Cdns consider their lives to be DEPENDENT on fossil fuel - for various ESSENTIAL services - so the idiot Boy has chosen to MISS-LEAD US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Our idiot Boy does not care if Alberta goers bankrupt as a result of a PURELY POLITICAL CHOICE Not to allow Alberta to sell its most valuable product!!!!!!
And Our idiot Boy is quite prepared to follow the DESTRUCTIVE lead of Wynne-bag Ontari-owe LIE-berals and FORCE Us to stop using natural gas for either heating or cooking- Wynne-bag got caught out making plans to BAN ALL natural gas appliances in the province- so it would be easier to price gouge us on electricity produced by LIE-beral HOG allies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Alberta premier Jason Kenney has warned in blunt terms that his population is fed up with a federation that cannot build essential infrastructure that it has repeatedly signed off on. We should take him at his word.

(LIE-berals bitch that we are reluctant to use public transit “to save the environment” with LIE-berals giving NO THOUGHT to how overloaded and unreliable and SLOW public transit is!! By refusing to build more and better transit - and by their use of the gravy grabbing carbon tax SCAM - LIE-berals have demonstrated an UGLY WILLINGNESS to destroy our lives while ensuring their entitlements keep on flowing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Stratas’s ruling is undeniably a setback to the expansion of Trans Mountain, where construction work had finally been getting underway. But it’s a fascinating ruling — and a close read offers some hope that the setback will be brief. But not brief enough, in all likelihood, to do the Liberals much good.

(LIE-berals recently gave out a call to companies to start gathering employees and equipment- WITHOUT actually having completed “negotiations” - meaning sort out the blackmail by a noisy minority!! The LIE-beral call for preparations was a CYNICAL PLOY deigned to lull observers that some progress might happen!! But with cynics like myself MOCKING the LIE-beral pipeline Fake News !!!!!!!!!!!!)

Appeal court decision brings uncertainty to Trans Mountain pipeline project, experts say
Trans Mountain pipeline faces fresh legal challenges after court allows six appeals to proceed
John Ivison: Trans Mountain approval a high wire act on which Trudeau is staking his future

(LIE-berals bought the Kinder Morgan pipeline to get Yankee owners and investors OUT OF THE WAY - as having angry Yankees robbed of their property while NAFTA was being discussed would have made the NAFTA MESS even worse!!!!!!!!! So LIE -berals SCREWED AROUND looking for ways to quietly kill a project that they also called essential to our economy- and the whole stage managed LIE-beral stall reeks of HYPOCRISY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Stratas has permitted the half-dozen motions only on very narrow grounds and struck down a broad swath of others in their totality. He rejects entirely the notion that the federal government’s purchase of the pipeline puts them in a conflict of interest. “The Governor in Council is not the Government of Canada,” he wrote. “The Governor in Council, the decision-maker here, does not own the project.” Bam. Done.

Stratas also entirely dismisses appeals made on environmental grounds. “The Governor in Council found that compelling public interest considerations clearly outweighed the adverse environmental effects. The decisive and emphatic nature of (that finding) leads inexorably to the conclusion (that) the Governor in Council would still conclude the project is, on balance, in the public interest and would still approve it.” A series of miscellaneous objections, Stratas notes, have already been addressed in the pipeline’s favour and will not be relitigated.

But there are the six motions he allowed, of course. And this is where things start to become awkward for the prime minister.

(Start to become awkward?? That`s a laugh- the idiot Boy has wasted several years just going through the motions - with NO REAL LEGAL progress- and the country is NOW LAUGHING at his pretensions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Stratas allowed the motions on the narrow grounds that it is arguable that mandated requirements for Indigenous consultation still have not been met. Stratas grants that there was additional consultation, notes that Indigenous groups deemed it insufficient, and, critically, notes further that the federal government took no position at all. While Indigenous and First Nations groups filed objections to the new consultation process “consisting of many thousands of detailed pages,” the federal government, “including the Attorney General of Canada representing the Government of Canada, took no position for or against” the motions. “The respondents did state that if leave were granted and applications for judicial review were brought they would support the Governor in Council’s decision and oppose the applicants,” Stratas said. “But on the leave motions they offered no submissions or evidence to assist the Court.”

(The UGLY TRUTH is that there can be NO RESOLUTION with the most radical native groups because they see the pipeline as a handy tool for PERPETUAL BLACKMAIL of the hated white society!! This is not an economic issue- it is a political coup based on racism and designed to cripple “white privilege”!!!!!!!!!!!)

(The LIE-beral crap about First Nations and native sovereignty that were first promoted by Pierre Trudope and his Indian Affairs minister Jean Chretien have finally blown up in LIE-beral faces!! There will be NO Pipeline until LIE-berals and natives can agree on a set of rights and privileges that are agreeable both to the great majority of natives as well as to the white population!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

I’m no lawyer. But it’s hard to read that as anything else than Stratas saying, in an adversarial system, when one side doesn’t show up, the other gets to have their say.

(The sad fact is that letting a small minority of radical natives disrupt NATIONAL policy and blackmail the LIE-beral govt suits the idiot Boy just fine - he sees this mess as a wonderful vote buying exercise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

So there will be reviews. Stratas has ordered that they be narrowly focused on the specific issue of whether the new consultations were sufficient, and wants the review completed “very quickly,” citing “substantial public interest” in a rapid conclusion. “Very quickly,” of course, is obviously relative — we’re talking about Canadian courts here. But it’s conceivable that the reviews could be wrapped up in a matter of months. Before the end of the year, perhaps.

(I suggest there will be NO RESOLUTION until we have a NEW GOVT!!!!!!!!!!!)

If that’s the case, and the pipeline gets built, Wednesday’s ruling is a bump in an already rocky road. But the matter is not likely to be settled in the next seven weeks. And that means the Liberals are going into the next campaign with this issue once again at top of mind.

What will the Liberal message be for those seven weeks? There has never been a Liberal position on Trans Mountain that’s even remotely coherent. The strongest signal they’ve sent is obviously buying it — but then they don’t bother arguing against its opponents? The Tories are going to spend the next seven weeks raining (hopefully metaphorical) artillery down on the Liberals on this, asking why the government spent billions buying a pipeline they didn’t bother to show up and advocate for in court. And anything the Liberals say will just give the NDP and the Greens an opportunity to remind the left that Trudeau is building an oil pipeline.

(Ah yes- LIE-berals consider that any subject they choose not to discuss will automatically DISAPPEAR and be forgotten!! We are ORDERED NOT to discuss the national consequences of LIE-berals DELIBERATELY bankrupting Alberta in exchange for LIE-beral votes stolen from NDP and Greenies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Pipeline issues were always going to be an issue in this campaign. But now it’s a live issue again. Every party will benefit from this, with the exception of the incumbents. And they seem to have done little to prevent that from happening.

It’s baffling, but it’s what happened. Trans Mountain is front and centre. With the election now just weeks away.

(BAFFLING?? REALLY?? The LIE-beral FIX is in and the stall has been in plain sight for several years now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 
Hoid
#2123
what are the chances that the same cabinet the OKed the pipeline expansion without having fulfilled the requirements has now fulfilled those requirements?

ZERO

the entire process is corrupt and illogical
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#2124
It will be dismissed by Nov.
 
petros
+2
#2125
At this point I don't give a shit if it gets built or not.

Divert all the contents of the existing line through the Sumas connection to WA and close the batch tank farm in Kamloops.

F-ck 'em.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#2126
But, but 'lil potato said it will get built
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#2127
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Oh, but he just saved his Alberta seats !!

Now...THAT is favoritism. tsk, tsk..
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+2
#2128
Why did Ottawa fail to defend its Trans Mountain process in court? Blame politics

Quote:

Evidence 'withheld'
Justice David Stratas wrote that the government and cabinet might have "strong evidence" to support the adequacy of their consultations, and good legal arguments in favour of the court deferring to cabinet's wishes.
"At this time, however, the respondents have withheld their evidence and legal submissions on these points. So the analysis cannot progress further," Stratas wrote.
So the case is heading back to court again — even though the federal cabinet has approved the project. Twice.
At this rate, the money being spent on Trans Mountain lawsuits is flowing more freely than the oil.
Brad Morse, dean of the law faculty at Thompson Rivers University in Kamloops, B.C., said the government's failure to put forward any response in a case like this "is highly unusual."
Politics might be part of the explanation, he said. Prime Minister Trudeau speaks frequently about the importance of the Crown-Indigenous relationship. Making legal arguments against allowing First Nations to pursue appeals — especially on the eve of an election campaign — could be seen as inconsistent with his words.
Indigenous communities not all on the same page......Much much more in the article read it Hoid

 
Hoid
#2129
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

But, but 'lil potato said it will get built

Actually you have all been saying that
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#2130
Be online by fall of 2020 after Scheer wins