Hate Crime kills Muslim Woman who had 6 children


Researcher87
#1
FREMONT, Calif. (AP) - An Afghanistan-born mother of six who was gunned down in California while wearing traditional Muslim dress was mourned Saturday during an interfaith service to unite local residents rattled by what some called a hate crime.
Women in Islamic head coverings sat near Christians and Jews during the memorial to honour Alia Ansari, 38, who was fatally shot Oct. 19 as she walked to pick her children up from school.
Church leaders hoped the service at Centerville Presbyterian church would bring together people of different faiths in Fremont, a San Francisco Bay-area suburb of 200,000 that is home to the largest Afghan community in the United States and a neighbourhood called "Little Kabul."
"Our commitment is to say: 'How can we be better neighbours in the midst of a changing community?"' said Rev. Greg Roth, the church's pastor.
"There was a longing to do something positive."
The memorial was held in a church gymnasium to make people of different faiths feel comfortable, Roth said.
During the service, Ansari was remembered as a faithful woman who helped her family navigate a challenging move to the United States. Her family sat in the front row, often clutching each other and sobbing as speakers read passages from the Qur'an.
A traditional Muslim memorial was held for Ansari in Fremont's Central Park on Friday before her body was flown to Afghanistan for burial.
Ansari was walking in a residential neighbourhood when a gunman pulled up in a car and fired at her before driving away. Her body was found outside a home near the sidewalk. Her three-year-old child witnessed the shooting but was unharmed.
Hours after she was killed, police arrested a 27-year-old man they described as "person of interest" in the case. The man was being held on a parole violation and has not been charged.
Fremont police have not labelled Ansari's killing a hate crime but some community members believe she was targeted because she was wearing a hijab when she was shot.
Samina Sundas, national chair of the American Muslim Voice, said the murder appears to be a hate crime but added Fremont is "doing a tremendous job of taking a tragedy and turning it into a community-building effort."

http://start.shaw.ca/start/enCA/News...c=w102891A.xml

Good job everyone, especially the anti-Muslim ones on this board. You prove the point.
Last edited by Researcher87; Oct 28th, 2006 at 08:15 PM..
 
Researcher87
#2
Yeah, so people bitch and complain about Muslim people and how they are taking over and trying to convert us with their Islamic evilness. However the evidence especially in this case shows it is the West that is the ones that would be the first to act in violence and murder innocent people.

I feel extremely sorry for this Muslim woman's children and I hope the bastard who committed this crimes gets what he deserves.
 
Researcher87
#3
No one! Well I guess the right of America and Canada support such Christian crusaders who fill women wearing the Hijah with red hot led.

Any then they make a big stink about a Muslim here or there that might not want to protect the Israeli embassy or who wants to wear a Hijah. And doesn't hurt anyone.

However, I always believe the actions speak louder than the words and we know who are the true murderers when it comes to religion.
 
tamarin
#4
Foolish! Of course, it's an outrage that this woman was murdered. But I trust it's an isolated case. It doesn't mean the whole western world is going to hell in a hurry. Locally, schools have been plagued with swastika grafitti for the last month. Does that mean we're all about to embrace Aryan Nations? Of course not. The defacement has been amply condemned and they've already caught one of the jackasses. Similarly, in the case you profiled, I'm sure people of good will are coming together to express their anger at this killing. And get something done about it.
 
Researcher87
#5
Kind of a change of attitude when it has to discuss with Muslim people. When something occurs with one of them oh god its the whole religion.

Don't like it switched?
 
Toro
#6
Don't be ridiculous.

This is an appalling disgrace, and I hope they nail the scum that did it.

Hatred and bigotry are in all cultures. The West is no different.

But talk to me when converting from Christianity becomes a capital offence.
 
Mediana
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by Researcher87 View Post

Yeah, so people bitch and complain about Muslim people and how they are taking over and trying to convert us with their Islamic evilness. However the evidence especially in this case shows it is the West that is the ones that would be the first to act in violence and murder innocent people.

I feel extremely sorry for this Muslim woman's children and I hope the bastard who committed this crimes gets what he deserves.

Apparently the Afghans aren't any more tolerant... they want you to mind your own business.

Afghan elders resent help from outsiders after slaying

Men say they feel only members of the community should participate in mourning for Fremont mother


http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/...s/15872026.htm
 
gopher
+1
#8  Top Rated Post
isolated case


There have been many reports of vicious attacks upon Muslim, ME, or Arabic-Americans. Unfortunately, these attacks have not gotten much media attention. Attacks upon Sikhs, as an example, got some attention as they serve to show American ignorance because they are NOT Muslims and because they led to a fatality.

A Muslim cab driver who is a friend of mine reports that he is frequently stopped and hassled for ID by white cops. He also indicated that some of his colleagues have been harassed as well. These reports are fewer today after some investigatory work have exposed the white cops tactics. But they shouldn't happen at all. Cops should be going after crooks, not after law abiding citizens.

Bigtory has no place in a modern and civil society. Everyone (regardless of religious or racial origin) needs to be held accountable for violations of the public peace.
 
Zzarchov
#9
oh yes..she was wearing a hijab..obviously a hate crime.
and anytime any muslim commits any crime, its somehow related to terrorism (can't be bank fraud cause your a greedy bugger, now its bank fraud so you can fund terrorists)

Ever think maybe she was shot because she was involved in something under the table? Perhaps she or her family is involved in the drug trade?

Given the amount of poppy farmers in afghanistan it is entirely possible she was killed to send a message to one of her siblings who shorted some local drug lord, or that even if her family isn't involved , perhaps one of her family members ratted out a neighbour for growing poppies.

But no , any possibility that this murder is anything but a hate crime cannot even be investigated... because the only time muslims are shot is because its a hate crime, period..no further investigation.
 
earth_as_one
#10
Its hard to say from the information provided if the murder was a hate crime. But bias against Muslims definitely has increased since 9/11:

Quote:

Workplace Bias Against Muslims, Arabs on Rise, Advocates Say

A tally of complaints jumped in 2005. Some victims may fear reporting to authorities.
By Alana Semuels, Times Staff Writer
October 3, 2006
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...ck=1&cset=true

Quote:

Human Rights Watch Report
November 2002

In the aftermath of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, Arabs and Muslims in the United States, and those perceived to be Arab or Muslim, such as Sikhs and South Asians, became victims of a severe wave of backlash violence. The hate crimes included murder, beatings, arson, attacks on mosques, shootings, vehicular assaults and verbal threats. This violence was directed at people solely because they shared or were perceived as sharing the national background or religion of the hijackers and al-Qaeda members deemed responsible for attacking the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

The post-September 11 violence against Arabs and Muslims was not unprecedented. Over the past twenty years backlash hate crimes against Arabs and Muslims in the United States have become predictable, triggered by conflict in the Middle East and acts of terrorism associated with Arabs or Muslims. The hate crimes that followed the September 11 attacks nonetheless were unique in their severity and extent. While comprehensive and reliable national statistics are not available, Arab and Muslim groups report more than two thousand September 11-related backlash incidents. The Federal Bureau of Investigation reported a seventeen-fold increase in anti-Muslim crimes nationwide during 2001. In Los Angeles County and Chicago, officials reported fifteen times the number of anti-Arab and anti-Muslim crimes in 2001 compared to the preceding year.

In many cases, government officials responded quickly and vigorously to the backlash violence. President George W. Bush and numerous state and city officials publicly condemned anti-Arab and anti-Muslim hate crimes. In addition, as this report documents, state and local government across the nation undertook a series of steps seeking to contain acts of violence and bring perpetrators to justice. Nevertheless, aspects of the U.S. government's anti-terrorism campaign-the detention of twelve hundred mostly Middle Eastern and South Asians because of possible links to terrorism, the effort to question over five thousand young Middle Eastern men, and the decision to fingerprint visitors from certain Middle Eastern and Muslim countries-reinforced a public perception that Arab and Muslim communities as a whole were suspect and linked to the "enemy" in the U.S. war against terrorism.

In this report, Human Rights Watch documents the nature of the September 11 backlash violence and the local, state, and federal government responses to it.

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2002/usahate/usa1102.htm

 
Researcher87
#11
Like I expected there are some that just want to make excuses. Maybe she was a drug dealer, why should only the men mourn the dead lady.

It was a hate crime, and it doesn't matter who mourns for the lady it is the action that counts and the murder that occured.
 
northstar
#12
First this was a crime, pure and simple, the victim happened to be a Muslim, so naturally the Muslims' are claiming a 'hate-crime'.

Second, the poor lady and her children were the victims of Mohammad who decided to write a book to justify his nastiness, and then two centuries later it was made into 'HOLY SCRIPTURES' to justify criminal activity and to justify a lifestyle of tyranty and murder. SO l am sure this poor woman and her child are in the real heaven, rather then Mohammad's version where boy children are a reward...

Third, Muslims have had a great injustice done to them by Mohammad, and more recently by Al Queda in the declaration of war in the name of Allah. The call on all good Muslims to follow and become Jihads' [O.B.LADIN}, was a great dis-service to all those Muslims who have tried to distance themselves from the teachings of the Quran, and returned to the roots of the bible in Christianity.

And all the rioting, complaining and social mis-conduct of Muslims throughout North America is a terrible slight on those Muslims' who have decided that they won't be a part of anti-social behaviour and are currently searching theie holy documents to find the sense and non-mainpulative peacefulness in Mohammad's self-rewarding teachings.
 
Researcher87
#13
Quote:

First this was a crime, pure and simple, the victim happened to be a Muslim, so naturally the Muslims' are claiming a 'hate-crime'.

Second, the poor lady and her children were the victims of Mohammad who decided to write a book to justify his nastiness, and then two centuries later it was made into 'HOLY SCRIPTURES' to justify criminal activity and to justify a lifestyle of tyranty and murder. SO l am sure this poor woman and her child are in the real heaven, rather then Mohammad's version where boy children are a reward...

Third, Muslims have had a great injustice done to them by Mohammad, and more recently by Al Queda in the declaration of war in the name of Allah. The call on all good Muslims to follow and become Jihads' [O.B.LADIN}, was a great dis-service to all those Muslims who have tried to distance themselves from the teachings of the Quran, and returned to the roots of the bible in Christianity.

And all the rioting, complaining and social mis-conduct of Muslims throughout North America is a terrible slight on those Muslims' who have decided that they won't be a part of anti-social behaviour and are currently searching theie holy documents to find the sense and non-mainpulative peacefulness in Mohammad's self-rewarding teachings.

Since Islam is the last Abrahemic religion aspect, it is better than Christianity for one.

Second, what the f+ing hell are you smoking. This is her fault that she was killed.

Then if a Christian gets himself killed it his hisd f*ing fault for being a stupid christian.

Cite where rioting has occurred in North America, North American Muslims have been extremely peaceful.
 
Hotshot
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by Researcher87 View Post

Good job everyone, especially the anti-Muslim ones on this board. You prove the point.


First, make sure you have ALL the facts before babbling on. There is NO INFORMATION given concerning the gunman. It couls have been anyone, any race, etc. You simply don't know. You just can't jump to conclusions (Remember the bombing in Oklahoma, who was blames and who was fould guilty)
Besides all that, you are an imbicile to claim anti-muslims on this board have proven anything.
 
northstar
#15
Quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Researcher87
Good job everyone, especially the anti-Muslim ones on this board. You prove the point.


First, make sure you have ALL the facts before babbling on. There is NO INFORMATION given concerning the gunman. It couls have been anyone, any race, etc. You simply don't know. You just can't jump to conclusions (Remember the bombing in Oklahoma, who was blames and who was fould guilty)
Besides all that, you are an imbicile....

just had to re-instate the beauty of the above portion your statement and heartily agree...
 
EastSideScotian
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by Researcher87 View Post

Since Islam is the last Abrahemic religion aspect, it is better than Christianity for one.

Oh please do explain, Id love you to let me know the Knowlage you have of Christainty.

Muslims are not bad people.

But.....Their Religion is not better than Christainity by any means, But Id love you to point out for me how it is...Not only would it be interesting...but I need to slam someone good for poor Knowlage of a topic, and I guess you are that person.

Now I normaly argue that Muslims are good people, becuase I feel they are. Religion vs. Religion Christains got their acts together long ago. Islam has left their people in the middle ages, in most aspects, government wise and Law wise. But please go on and tell me how Islam is better than christainity, and Ill even surprise Northstar with what ill have to tell you...
 
Sassylassie
#17
I'll bite Easty what do you know?

The only reference to Abraham I could find is Abraham-man, the dictionary states: Wondering beggar of the 16th century, feign illness or insanity. (perh. after Luke 16) So researcher wants me to believe that Muslims are better cough than Christians because they beg and fake an illness by being insane????

I don't think either Religion is doing man kind a justice these days, the holy rollers make my skin crawl as does Extreme Islam. We have only one radio station in my town, on Sundays they broadcast a mass for shut-ins. It's a Baptist's Service, give me patience the Priest/Pastor Holy Roller preaches that you aren't a true Christian if you don't pray and read the bible all day everyday. Women who work to provide for the family with game boys are evil (his words) and bad mothers. It leaves me speechless with my mouth hanging out, I can often be found on Sundays screaming at this man "You are an asshole." The word of god me bum, you are female controling hateful bigot.
 
Researcher87
#18
Since they now have the perpretrator behind bars it will be a short time before we truly find out that this attack was done out of Hate.
 
EastSideScotian
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by Sassylassie View Post

I'll bite Easty what do you know?

The only reference to Abraham I could find is Abraham-man, the dictionary states: Wondering beggar of the 16th century, feign illness or insanity. (perh. after Luke 16) So researcher wants me to believe that Muslims are better cough than Christians because they beg and fake an illness by being insane????

I don't think either Religion is doing man kind a justice these days, the holy rollers make my skin crawl as does Extreme Islam. We have only one radio station in my town, on Sundays they broadcast a mass for shut-ins. It's a Baptist's Service, give me patience the Priest/Pastor Holy Roller preaches that you aren't a true Christian if you don't pray and read the bible all day everyday. Women who work to provide for the family with game boys are evil (his words) and bad mothers. It leaves me speechless with my mouth hanging out, I can often be found on Sundays screaming at this man "You are an asshole." The word of god me bum, you are female controling hateful bigot.

Actully Abraham has more to do with Judisim and then Christians and Muslims...... and he wasnt around in the 16th centurey he was long dead...so prob the wrong dude....besides checking the dictionary for people...I wouldnt do tat its more of a word referance not a name...

But ask away, I could say all kinds of things but it might not awnser your questions need anything straightend out? id be happy to help
 
Researcher87
#20
Abraham = God.

Christianity and Judaism and Islam worship Abraham.
 
EastSideScotian
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by Researcher87 View Post

Abraham = God.

Christianity and Judaism and Islam worship Abraham.

And you have proved for me you know nothing about the 3 big religions or how they came about. Thank you and good night.
 
Researcher87
#22
Sadly you are the wrong one. They believe in the same god, Abramhemic religions. And with slight variations in all of them, and they have all borrowed from each other, they are the same. If you could point out where they are different it would be good for a nice chuckle.
 
EastSideScotian
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by Researcher87 View Post

Sadly you are the wrong one. They believe in the same god, Abramhemic religions. And with slight variations in all of them, and they have all borrowed from each other, they are the same. If you could point out where they are different it would be good for a nice chuckle.

You said Abraham is God, adn thats what I dissagree with...God is God.

But you are right with the rest of what you said... Accept. Some Christains and Jews...the Magjority feel Allah is infact a differant God. I am looking into what I think at the moment, so ill get back to you on that in a few weeks. But.....You said Abraham is God. he is not. Abraham is a decendet of Adam and Eve, and The first main Prophet of God, which like you said ties the 3 religions together because they follow his teachings...but each religon has a few other Prophets...like Islam has Mohhamed, and we Have Jesus...shared by both Islam and Chirstains and Jews. Mohhmaed is reclusive to Islam.

Abraham, Jesus are the main Prophets...thought all 3 have differant Views on Jesus, Christains feel Jesus Died for humanitys sins ont he cross, and is our saviour, Jews see Jesus as a prophet but is much disputed, and they dont see him as the saviour, and they still wait for the saviour to return to earth. Muslims see him as a prophet who switched himself for Judus on the cross and escaped to Heavan and didnt infact die on the cross...and then fromt hat point their ae seperate teachings a books. That amke them differant but yes Technically same God.

Abraham is not God though
 
Researcher87
#24
Wow do you know that if you put in Hate Crime Kills Muslim woman who had 6 children, this is the number one site. No news or anything but Canadian content. Kind of scary don't you think.
 
northstar
#25
Research is amusing us once again...
Quote:

Abraham = God.

--res.


Sorry pal, while Islamists might want this it just will never happen. Our God is never Abraham. Try to explain this to me...

Quote:

Christianity and Judaism and Islam worship Abraham.

--res.



Christianity and Judaism do not believe in the same God. The Bible and the Torah have nothing to do with the Law of Islam. The Torah is 2000 years older than the Quran,the Bible is 500 years older than the Quran.

Quote:

Sadly you are the wrong one. They believe in the same god, Abramhemic religions. And with slight variations in all of them, and they have all borrowed from each other, they are the same. If you could point out where they are different it would be good for a nice chuckle.

--res.


The Quran is made up of stories supposedly past down from generation to generation, even while an entire population was basically wiped out during one of their murder, rape and pillage escapades. The rest of the Quran was a bunch of odd notes, hidden under Mohammad’s bed, some 150 years after he died. Apparanently he died when he got his penis caught in some child and the child broke away, the broken unrinary tract got infected and he died mumbling…the next page Alisha…l need to write about having sex with camels…

So have your chuckle, but the Quran is never compariable with the bible or the torah, and our God is not, and never will be Allah...oh, even better, you said Abraham...tooooofunny!!!


I would like you to come up with some facts to back up these statements, but remember the timeline.
 
Sassylassie
#26
Ya all seem to know way more about this Abraham than I, can you elaborate northstar? Please don't make me read the bible, I really can't stand all those the thy and thous.
 
DurkaDurka
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by Researcher87 View Post

Since Islam is the last Abrahemic religion aspect, it is better than Christianity for one.

What kind of idiotic statement is that? For all your drivel about racists and what not, you are putting your self in the exact same league as them with statements like that.
 
wallyj
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by Sassylassie View Post

Ya all seem to know way more about this Abraham than I, can you elaborate northstar? Please don't make me read the bible, I really can't stand all those the thy and thous.

Thou are one funny woman. If I wore a hat,I would doff it in thy's presence.
 
Chukcha
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by Researcher87 View Post

...

Islam generates fasism and murdering of chrisitian women and children. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=26566
Good work all of you the descendants of bloody Islam
 
northstar
#30
Okay, the Abraham Story...

Abram couldn't have children with his wife Sarah, so he had a child with Hagar the Egyptian, a maid. This child was named Ishmael.

Then when Abram was 99, God came to him and told him that he was gonna be the Grand POBAH of many nations, and with his fatherhood of a son he was gonna have ta change his name to ABRAHAM.
His wife, Sari, was gonna be the Grand MOHOBA, and in this motherhood of a nation, beginning with one, she would be called Sarah. He also wanted all the males circumized to prove alliance to God.

So Sarah and Abraham had Isaac. And this was the first circumsized child of the Nations of God.

Ishmael and his mom had to leave because apparently she was giving the nasty-eye to Sarah, but God promised the kind-hearted Abraham that things would be groovy and this kid would get to have his own Nations.

Thus the ARAB states are descendants of Abram and Hagar.

The Jews, and of course the Christians, are descendants of Abraham and Sarah, and are from the Nations that are ultimately lead by God.
 

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