For Coronavirus, this idea may be useful


Torch light
#1
The Coronavirus consists of an acid (RNA) covered by a lipid envelope (phospholipid) ..

If the lipid envelope of the virus is destroyed, the contents will easily be destroyed and ingested by the secretions of the body like the HCl acid of the stomach and other digestive enzymes in the saliva, etc.

This may be a point of power for the virus, because in the mouth there is nothing that can stop or digest the lipid, the lipid will not start to be digested until it passes the stomach to reach the duodenum where the lipid will start to be digested.

Now most of medical drugs fall into two main groups: acidic and alkaline...
Acidic:
Ponstan is the Mefenamic acid
Aspirin is the Acetyl Salicylic acid
Paracetamol or Panadol is the Acetaminophen which is also acidic.
And there are many acidic drugs which work against microbes like Fucidin or Fucidic acid ..etc.

Alkaline or alkaloid drugs such as:
morphine,
quinine,
and atropine.

My idea here which could be correct or wrong, but worth of consideration :

To alkalanize the patient by giving the sodium bicarbonate orally or if the patient is not in good situation by parentral route as you treat the patient with acidosis.

Therefore, when the blood is alkaline it may help destroying the lipid wall of the virus and then getting rid of it or helping the body to get rid of the virus.

Moreover, if the patient is OK, he can take the sodium bicarbonate orally (which is the substance used in bakery and in cold drinks like the Pepsicola and other similar cold drinks.)

So to rinse and gargle the mouth and pharynx with sodium bicarbonate solution may be helpful in preventing the virus, and all success is granted by God Most Gracious.
God is the All-Knowing.

http://quran-ayat.com/
quran-ayat.com
Last edited by Torch light; Mar 27th, 2020 at 04:22 AM..
 
DaSleeper
+3
#2
You can always use pages from the quran if you run out of toilet paper!
That's about all it's good for!
 
Twin_Moose
+1
#3
Are Muslims allowed to take drugs or wash their hands in alcohol?
 
DaSleeper
+4
#4  Top Rated Post
According to the quran, They need left-handed toilet paper.
 
Torch light
#5
Maybe no danger from taking sodium bicarbonate orally for patients who feel symptoms, and for the asymptomatic +ve cases...
It may also ameliorate the condition of the patient on ventilator.

this substance is safely used to:

- alkalanize the blood and so the urine will also be alkaline - to solve the urate stones of the urinary tract.
- as antacid or antiacid in dyspepsia of the duodenal ulcer or the esophageal reflux and regurgitation.

It is also used in the bread and the cake that we eat, and in the gaseous drinks that we drink.

If it succeeds, then OK; if not there may be no harm.
 
Twin_Moose
#6
So like usual you can lie to yourself and others as long as you continue to be Muslim?
 
Torch light
#7
Sodium bicarbonate solution is easily made and if useful, can even be used as gargle and mouth wash.

By the way, this is my preferred website for the Quran interpretation:
http://quran-ayat.com/
quran-ayat.com/
 
Twin_Moose
#8
Does it do anything for Camel diddling MERS or COVIS-19?
 
Torch light
#9
The honey of the bee :

This of course in addition to the honey of the bee which includes some Immunoglobulin A, vitamins, minerals and it is a good source of energy and is a delicious nutrient.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/sh...d.php?t=167259

My preferred website of the Quran interpretation:
http://quran-ayat.com/
quran-ayat.com/
 
DaSleeper
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

The honey of the bee :

This of course in addition to the honey of the bee which includes some Immunoglobulin A, vitamins, minerals and it is a good source of energy and is a delicious nutrient.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/sh...d.php?t=167259

My preferred website of the Quran interpretation:
http://quran-ayat.com/
quran-ayat.com/

Who the hell cares...
We don't need your quran bullshit!
 
petros
+1
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

Maybe no danger from taking sodium bicarbonate orally for patients who feel symptoms, and for the asymptomatic +ve cases...
It may also ameliorate the condition of the patient on ventilator.
this substance is safely used to:
- alkalanize the blood and so the urine will also be alkaline - to solve the urate stones of the urinary tract.
- as antacid or antiacid in dyspepsia of the duodenal ulcer or the esophageal reflux and regurgitation.
It is also used in the bread and the cake that we eat, and in the gaseous drinks that we drink.
If it succeeds, then OK; if not there may be no harm.

Test you pH before you go taking patent medicine.

If it doesnt kill Kung Flu, maybe your hair will grow back if you rub it on your scalp.
 
Torch light
#12
Don't let your hatred to the Quran prevent you from seeing the truth, and you stick to your traditions.
I don't see you here every time; only now it does not suit you.
Let everyone receive what he deserves from his Lord.

Therefore, this is what Jesus Christ said about the past Zionists:
"Neither you yourselves enter, nor you allow others to go in."

Anyhow, I don't insist; it is only an idea, and I don't think it is dangerous to take some soda which you ingest daily included in the bread.

http://quran-ayat.com/
quran-ayat.com
Last edited by Torch light; Mar 27th, 2020 at 04:25 PM..
 
AnnaE
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

The Coronavirus consists of an acid (RNA) covered by a lipid envelope (phospholipid) ..

I think you are deluded if you think anyone here will take you more seriously than serious researchers about CoVid-19.
 
Torch light
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaE View Post

I think you are deluded if you think anyone here will take you more seriously than serious researchers about CoVid-19.

So go and take your serious researchers; no one has obliged you; receive what you deserve, with my delight.
 
Torch light
#15
These Zionists shout as did their fathers shout against Moses their own prophet:
"And all the children of Israel murmured against Moses and Aaron"
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...14&version=GNV

http://quran-ayat.com/conflicts/engl...Their_Prophet_
quran-ayat.com/conflicts/english2.htm#Their_Rebellion_against_Their_Prophet _
 
DaSleeper
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

So go and take your serious researchers; no one has obliged you; receive what you deserve, with my delight.

Why do you keep harping on your damn quran day after day when nobody here believes you,
You must have a victim complex!
 
petros
+1
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

Don't let your hatred to the Quran prevent you from seeing the truth, and you stick to your traditions.
I don't see you here every time; only now it does not suit you.
Let everyone receive what he deserves from his Lord.
Therefore, this is what Jesus Christ said about the past Zionists:
"Neither you yourselves enter, nor you allow others to go in."
Anyhow, I don't insist; it is only an idea, and I don't think it is dangerous to take some soda which you ingest daily included in the bread.
http://quran-ayat.com/
quran-ayat.com

Yes, having a balanced pH is good for you. I doubt any benefit against Kung Flu tho.

You can test your pH by spitting on litmus paper. Yellow is alkaline purple acidic and it wont change if neutral.
 
Blackleaf
#18
My friend Mutaro from Guinea-Bissau was telling me in the canteen at work today that he saw a video on the internet which said that drinking salted but otherwise pure lemon juice is good to keep the virus away.

I don't know if it's true.
 
petros
+1
#19
Of course it's not true.
 
Torch light
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Yes, having a balanced pH is good for you. I doubt any benefit against Kung Flu tho.
You can test your pH by spitting on litmus paper. Yellow is alkaline purple acidic and it wont change if neutral.

I know about the acid base balance of the blood and its importance, and the body has its buffer system to arrange for this marvelous God work of the human body.

But, when you use alkalizing substances to increase the blood alkalinity (only to a mild degree) like when you treat the urate stones of the kidney or increase the acidity of the blood (to a mild degree) for the calcium carbonate stones .. this is a recognized medical procedure.

In addition to other recognized medical uses of the sodium bicarbonate.

And it is only a personal idea which is liable to be wrong or correct .. I don't insist.

Therefore, rinsing the mouth and the gargle of the pharynx with the sodium bicarbonate is not that dangerous as you claim.

Moreover, giving alkaline substances may give the benefit, I see.
Last edited by Torch light; Mar 28th, 2020 at 04:01 AM..
 
Torch light
#21
Persons with allergy of the respiratory tract, like Hay Fever and others MAY have a better chance of avoiding the Coronavirus infection: because of their sneezing, coughing, producing of much mucus, and expectoration of sputum.
 
Twin_Moose
#22
So smoking is a good thing then?
 
Torch light
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

So smoking is a good thing then?

Zionist, Zionist, did I say smoking; it is only the smoke in your brain.

The smoking is harmful certainly, and I asked Abu Abd-Allah about the smoking is it lawful or unlawful?
He said: It is unlawful and forbidden because of its much harm.
Last edited by Torch light; Apr 1st, 2020 at 12:15 PM..
 
Twin_Moose
#24
Never heard of smokers cough it is sometimes worse than allergies
 
Twin_Moose
#25
Btw, Torchie did you ever get MERS?
 
Hoid
#26
here is a useful coronovirus idea: dog poop bags make excellent emergency hand protectors. They cost almost nothing and are readily available
 
DaSleeper
#27
Apparently, someone tried Advantix, a ticks medication for dogs and it kills the coronavirus in your system....
Believe it or not.......
Also works to prevent it for a month!



Remember you heard it first here.....


It cant be worse than torchie's crackpot remedies
 
Tecumsehsbones
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

Apparently, someone tried Advantix, a ticks medication for dogs and it kills the coronavirus in your system....
Believe it or not.......
Also works to prevent it for a month!
Remember you heard it first here.....
It cant be worse than torchie's crackpot remedies

Makes as much sense as cloroquine.
 
spilledthebeer
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

I know about the acid base balance of the blood and its importance, and the body has its buffer system to arrange for this marvelous God work of the human body.

But, when you use alkalizing substances to increase the blood alkalinity (only to a mild degree) like when you treat the urate stones of the kidney or increase the acidity of the blood (to a mild degree) for the calcium carbonate stones .. this is a recognized medical procedure.

In addition to other recognized medical uses of the sodium bicarbonate.

And it is only a personal idea which is liable to be wrong or correct .. I don't insist.

Therefore, rinsing the mouth and the gargle of the pharynx with the sodium bicarbonate is not that dangerous as you claim.

Moreover, giving alkaline substances may give the benefit, I see.






POOR foolish Torch Light! Apparently nobody has ever told him that eating a more balanced diet with less salt


and getting more fully and regularly hydrated - meaning drink lots of water - is a HANDY WAY TO PREVENT kidney stones!


But Torch Light is too busy producing that CRUDE MUSLIM PROPAGANDA to bother with any logical research!
 
Rosebud
+1
#30




I think it's because every country seeks the limelight in hopes of finding the solution to the problem. It's reasoning is, it does not have to credit other countries for their contribution in the final success. The advantage to this selfish attitude is that, if successful, it shows that the nation 's contribution or taxes were being directed for a national cause. The government in power gets to stay in another term. One nation is the exception, France. It shares to the world it's findings. Retrovir for AIDS of the past, and again for this latest virus, the cocktail of malaria and other agent(the name escapes me). It could have kept it's data quiet.


I have been addressing for months your concern and reasoning to everyone that would listen. The UN should declare war on this "unseen" enemy. It could set up a research data collection office to pass on latest lab findings, and new pilot projects regardless of it's obvious usefullness. This would prevent duplicate research, where a nation potentially takes a route that another nation has already embarked on. Labs that have become experts in a given area of research should be given additional funding, and this is justified. This is not an unusual approach. For instance in the early years of open heart surgery, patients were referred to physicians who were expert in that field. These were given extra funding.



As far as the virus itself, as a layman in this science, it struck me that there must be an area of the virus genus that is common to all viruses and cannot mutate. This can be exploited and targeted, not areas that can mutate. How about altering it's actual physical size. Surely, the DNA sequence that constitutes the virus's actual form must be common knowlege by now. Create a "deformed" virus too long for any cell to encapsulate, or make it resemble a common free radical that T4's that through the ages, have come to irradicate without the initial identity checks.


I'm showing my inadequate knowledge base here, but the logic is sound. A UN monitoring body could assign projects according to the area of expertese that a lab as excelled in. This logic has been applied in computer science in the area of the SETI project. In this project all home PC owners of the world who chose to participate were given a separate area of the sky to monitor and log on their PC, and at set intervals the data was downloaded to a central lab.


We need a FULL TIME cohesive body of nations/laboratories with a central governing unbiased agency to direct projects to fight this agent. Not when there's a virus attacking us.
 

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