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Curious Cdn
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+1
#271
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Old men are our past. It is the youth that are our future. They are the one moving and shaking in the streets. They will be the ones to build a future for themselves. Old farts just complain and vote conservative.

Get off my lawn, Kid!
 
spaminator
#272
http://torontosun.com/news/national/...ntroversy-poll
http://torontosun.com/news/national/...pport-dropping
 
spilledthebeer
#273
Quote: Originally Posted by spaminator View Post

http://torontosun.com/news/national/...ntroversy-poll
http://torontosun.com/news/national/...pport-dropping




LIE-berals have issued so much Fake News it is now contradicting itself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!


Here is an older article reminding us that LIE-berals completely failed to devise any sensible solution to the Vancouver housing market mess And they dd not do well in Toronto either! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Hunger for substance could nix BC’s ‘mirage’ home buyer plan

By Tom Parkin, Postmedia Network

First posted: Sunday, January 08, 2017 06:41 PM EST | Updated: Sunday, January 08, 2017 06:46 PM EST

B.C. Premier Christy Clark is betting everybody loves free money — and won’t think much more about it.

Last month, her B.C. Liberal government announced a $700 million plan to pay five years of interest on up to $37,500 in mortgage debt for first time home buyers.

It sounds like a plan every politician has to love. So it took some courage for B.C. NDP Leader John Horgan to oppose it. He’s trusting the intelligence of voters to realize it’s a mirage. Home buyers will be the plan’s victims, not its beneficiaries.

But will his stand pay off?

(Clearly the mirage money offer did not win favour! In 2 short years BOTH Clark and Horgan are gone! With the NDP now running the show! Cdns have become very wary of govt that offers anything for “free”! This years deficit is CLEARLY next years tax rate increase!)

(And isnt it odd- as soon as federal LIE-berals took sufficient heat over their indifference to white collar crime and became motivated to do something and dispatched CRA auditors and RCMP to begin chasing laundered money and foreign tax cheats- the Vancouver housing market pretty much stalled out! Rapidly slowing sales and no more wild price increases!!!!!! )

Housing prices are already jacked-up by low interest rates. Currently, a $1,000 weekly mortgage payment can borrow about $250,000 more than at more typical rates.

Now, if one buyer could borrow $250,000 for free, it’d be an advantage over other bidders. But when all buyers have the same access to the same cheap credit, it’s a mirage. All equally armed with cheap credit, buyers bid-up prices to a new equilibrium. What’s saved with lower interest rates is spent in price inflation.

(And of course its all just standard socialist bait and switch garbage! Pay now or pay later- PLUS INTEREST! Its just LIE-beral sleight of hand with the bills- in hope of making suckers of voters!!!!)

Now the B.C. Liberals plan to dump free credit on top of cheap credit. They estimate 42,000 people will take the money. If home buyers borrow an average additional $30,000, the plan will pump a $1.3 billion credit surge into the housing market.

Premier Clark suggests $1.3 billion in free credit will help young and working class families buy their dream. But if she doesn’t understand the housing market, her economists do. New credit will bid-up prices. New buyers will need to load up on more debt to get the same house.

(Yes- this is just the usual feel good LIE-beral announcement that actually resolves NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Even most current home owners won’t benefit. Higher prices will make them feel richer. But their houses haven’t changed. They’re not living better. A seller who then buys back into the same inflated market gets no benefit.

(LIE-berals LOVE that paper profit! If your house is more valuable then they can CHARGE MORE real estate tax and earn themselves MORE GRAVY- which IS the point of the exercise!!!!!!!!!)

The $1.3 billion bulge will flow through financial institutions to land developers, landlords and real estate agents. It’s no surprise the B.C. home builders association, the Vancouver real estate board and the Urban Development Institute love the B.C. Liberal plan.

It’s bad politics — a few months before an election, using public money to rally private economic interests. A $1.3 billion credit bonanza imposes its own pro-government message discipline. Mostly of the cheerleading variety.

Real estate agents will get paid a percent of bigger sale prices. Landlords can benefit by refinancing higher-priced property, taking gains and pushing up rents. Financial institutions will extend more credit, with five year teaser rates paid for with $700 million in public money.

(And LIE-berals will rake off higher rates of sales and income tax- meaning MORE GRAVY- WITHOUT the unpopularity that comes with simply raising taxes! After all, free money is BETTER than higher taxes isnt it?????????)

But the biggest slice surely will go to land developers. The cost of building didn’t increase. But the market price of a new house sure did.

The scheme transfers wealth from taxpayers to industry players, leaving homeowners with more risk.

(Shall we point out that home owners generally don’t donate to political parties- but that business people- such as developers often do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

When interest rates rise, housing prices may go down. But a home owner’s mortgage debt won’t. Higher rates on a bigger debt means a bigger mortgage payment hike. It means homeowners with less money to spend — and some who won’t be able to keep up payments. If there’s a bubble to the B.C. housing market, Clark’s adding to it.

(Oh but what happens to home owners next year is of no concern to a politician fighting for her career right now- as Clark was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The response to Horgan’s stand will be telling. Revolt at the pablum being spooned to voters — at their own risk and expense — would suggest a healthy hunger for substance in politics has returned.

Tom Parkin is a former NDP staffer and social democrat media commentator

(And of course- neither Clark nor Horgan survived the housing crisis and now B.C. is under the control of NDP airheads who think that trying to extort oil patch cash from Alberta might be a good idea! Blackmail NEVER ends well and it is wildly absurd of NDP to think they can openly harass the most important industry in Alberta while still getting a STEADY FLOW OF CHEAP GAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(The various messes faced by British Columbia epitomize all that is miss- giuded and self serving and hypocritical about LIE-beral policies- and by extention -the policies of the NDP and Greens- the muddle headed cousins of LIE-berals who lack the low guile and cunning to be proper LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
+5
#274
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Lowest unemployment rate ever

Yeah, okay.
Canadian economy loses more than 51K jobs in August
Alberta's job market loses 17K jobs in December: Statistics Canada - January
Canada suffers biggest job loss - Toronto Star - February
Yeah, things are sunny and awesome, and...

NAFTA, he threw the dairy farms under the bus. He bought a pipeline he can't build. He is up to the usual Liberal tricks, trying to bail out corrupt corporations in Quebec.


You can only take so many selfies, write so many checks, and say, "I'm sorry," before people start questioning your ability.
 
Curious Cdn
No Party Affiliation
+2
#275
The Liberal Party had a very, very long history of making "arrangements".
 
spaminator
#276
http://torontosun.com/news/national/...g-grit-support
 
spilledthebeer
#277
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Get off my lawn, Kid!


So what kind of govt do YOU SUPPORT Curious???????????????????????????????


YOU CLAIM you are not a LIE-beral...................................


Does that make you one of the less intelligent cousins of NDP???????????????????????????????????????


Or a Greenie??????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????


Or a Communist Party of Canada type???????????????????????????????


Is your idol Paula Fletcher- former leader of the Cdn Soviet Comrades and now Toronto Silly Hall Councillor????????????????



 
spilledthebeer
#278
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

The Liberal Party had a very, very long history of making "arrangements".


And what "arrangements" will YOUR party make Not So Curious?????????????????????????????

 
spilledthebeer
#279
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier View Post

Yeah, okay.
Canadian economy loses more than 51K jobs in August
Alberta's job market loses 17K jobs in December: Statistics Canada - January
Canada suffers biggest job loss - Toronto Star - February
Yeah, things are sunny and awesome, and...

NAFTA, he threw the dairy farms under the bus. He bought a pipeline he can't build. He is up to the usual Liberal tricks, trying to bail out corrupt corporations in Quebec.


You can only take so many selfies, write so many checks, and say, "I'm sorry," before people start questioning your ability.




Yes.......what our happy hypocrite HOID IGNORES is that under LIE-berals - all the good jobs are vanishing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Too be replaced by PART TIME TEMPORARY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


And HOID wants to pretend that is a good thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are so deceitful on job issues that they have quietly REVISED the definition of full time employment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Used to be you would have 40 hours of work to be considered fully employed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Now under LIE-beral propaganda you are "fully employed" if you get about 28 hours work per week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
spaminator
#280
http://torontosun.com/news/national/...overnment-poll
 
spilledthebeer
#281
Quote: Originally Posted by spaminator View Post

http://torontosun.com/news/national/...overnment-poll


People recognize that the LIE-beral deficits of today are the TAXES of tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


Ontari-owe has already endured the inflation from the Wynne-bag LIE-beral carbon crap and trade tax scam and now April 1 2019 we will get hit with the federal version of the LIE-beral carbon crap and trade tax scam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


With the Wynne-bag LIE-beral tax being $10 per mega tonne and the federal version being TWICE THAT at $20 per mega tonne!!!!!!!!!!!!


As for Quebec- which partnered with Wynne-bag Ontari-owe and California on the carbon tax scam- we KNOW that Quebec is immune to the cost of the tax thanks to the wonderful LIE-beral generosity in giving Quebec $11 billion dollars in federal transfer payments!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-berals are planning to hit Ontari-owe with MEGA TONNES of inflation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!


Ontari-owe has 40 percent of the Cdn population and is about to be financially BOMBED by federal LIE-beral carbon scam!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Saskatchewan has joined with Ontari-owe in the court challenge against carbon tax scam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Alberta economy is being DESTROYED by LIE-beral refusal to let Alberta oil be exported!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!


British Columbia loves getting access to CHEAP Alberta oil but B.C. in ENRAGED that they are getting NOTHING in federal transfers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The great majority of the country is now HOSTILE to shameless vote buying LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!


LIE-berals have RUN OUT OF GRAVY and can NO LONGER BUY PEACE with their FORMER SUPPORTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


A lot of young people expected better jobs from a LIE-beral govt..................and got NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


A lot of environmentalists expected much from LIE-berals and it was David Suzuki who whined that Our idiot Boy has "done nothing for the environment"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


A lot of natives expected LIE-berals to shower them with new housing and gobs of cash and assorted goodies and got NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!


A lot of college and university students expected LIE-berals to produce a grand new financing scheme to make it easier to pay tuition costs.............and got NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals have thrown open the border to a deluge of illegals and then left them to rot in homeless shelters and now they are asking where is the better life LIE-berals promised!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


And as all the illegals arrived- they enraged a lot of other legitimate immigrants who lined up and gained entry to the country honestly - with some of them waiting years to bring in other family members- while the trespassers get all the govt attention and in the process turn Cdns against large scale immigration!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berls have turned our immigration system into a shameless vote buying exercise- with NO REGARD for the long term needs of Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



AS one news media talking head observed- the "people who elected Trudope in 2015 are not likely to be there for him in 2019"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Curious Cdn
No Party Affiliation
#282
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

And what "arrangements" will YOUR party make Not So Curious?????????????????????????????

MY party is arranging to return to power.

What's your "Party of the First Part" planning?
 
Curious Cdn
No Party Affiliation
+1
#283
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

So what kind of govt do YOU SUPPORT Curious???????????????????????????????


YOU CLAIM you are not a LIE-beral...................................


Does that make you one of the less intelligent cousins of NDP???????????????????????????????????????


Or a Greenie??????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????


Or a Communist Party of Canada type???????????????????????????????


Is your idol Paula Fletcher- former leader of the Cdn Soviet Comrades and now Toronto Silly Hall Councillor????????????????


I'm one of those old fashioned Progressive Conservatives ... an endangered species, in this dumbing-down world where there is black, white and no longer any shades of grey.
 
Curious Cdn
No Party Affiliation
#284
P.S. Do sober up, now and then, eh?
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+1
#285
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

I'm one of those old fashioned Progressive Conservatives ... an endangered species, in this dumbing-down world where there is black, white and no longer any shades of grey.

Joe Clark , Robert Stanfield , and George , the three real old stock conservatives .
 
Curious Cdn
No Party Affiliation
#286
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Joe Clark , Robert Stanfield , and George , the three real old stock conservatives .

They wouldn't like the proto-Nazis that have come along since them. It was a different party with a different ideology before the Western separatists hijacked it.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#287
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

They wouldn't like the proto-Nazis that have come along since them. It was a different party with a different ideology before the Western separatists hijacked it.

Be a man vote liberal .
 
Curious Cdn
No Party Affiliation
#288
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Be a man vote liberal .

Be a human and punctuate, pigs.

Do us all a favour and don't vote the "Troll" ticket.
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#289
There should be a comma after favor.
 
Curious Cdn
No Party Affiliation
#290
Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

There should be a comma after favor.

No, that is incorrect. You either use a comma or the word "and" but not both together.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
+4
#291
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

I'm one of those old fashioned Progressive Conservatives ... an endangered species, in this dumbing-down world where there is black, white and no longer any shades of grey.


I consider myself a Red Tory in that I don't have interest in wading into the abortion debate, don't care who marries who, and want the Canadian health care system intact. The western separatists stuff is a fearmongering straw man created by Liberals and old stock Quebecois who have had a stranglehold on this country for too long.



Tell me what Stephen Harper did that was any different than any other politician to affect policy in Canada. In my opinion, nothing really. Gays still got married, abortions were still performed, the Canadian health care system is still intact. He was framed up as a monster because he was a westerner.



The present nitwit has very little idea what he is doing, so to make up for that he comes out with Gender Neutral Budgets, apologizes and writes checks. He stepped in it with SNC Lavelin, but his buddy, Gerald Butts, will sacrifice himself for the party. This type of scandal is something the Liberal party is famous for.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
+1
#292
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

No, that is incorrect. You either use a comma or the word "and" but not both together.


There are many variations you can use.

Be a man and vote Liberal.
Be a man; vote Liberal.
Be a man, vote Liberal.
Be a man, and vote Liberal.<-- a comma can be used with and, but in a different sentence structure.
Be a man, you Hoser, and vote Liberal.
 
Curious Cdn
No Party Affiliation
#293
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier View Post

I consider myself a Red Tory in that I don't have interest in wading into the abortion debate, don't care who marries who, and want the Canadian health care system intact. The western separatists stuff is a fearmongering straw man created by Liberals and old stock Quebecois who have had a stranglehold on this country for too long.
Tell me what Stephen Harper did that was any different than any other politician to affect policy in Canada. In my opinion, nothing really. Gays still got married, abortions were still performed, the Canadian health care system is still intact. He was framed up as a monster because he was a westerner.
The present nitwit has very little idea what he is doing, so to make up for that he comes out with Gender Neutral Budgets, apologizes and writes checks. He stepped in it with SNC Lavelin, but his buddy, Gerald Butts, will sacrifice himself for the party. This type of scandal is something the Liberal party is famous for.

Actually, what Harper did was successfully keep a lid on the Yahoos around him and I admire him for it. Remember Vic Toews, who wanted to read your e-mailed and if you didn't let him, you were obviously in favour of paecophiles? That's the sort of lame brain that Harper had to keep a leash on.
 
DaSleeper
#294
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier View Post

There are many variations you can use.

Be a man and vote Liberal.
Be a man; vote Liberal.
Be a man, vote Liberal.
Be a man, and vote Liberal.<-- a comma can be used with and, but in a different sentence structure.
Be a man, you Hoser, and vote Liberal.

All y' all missed the hint at the spelling "favour" old English "favor" new English!
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
+2
#295
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Actually, what Harper did was successfully keep a lid on the Yahoos around him and I admire him for it. Remember Vic Toews, who wanted to read your e-mailed and if you didn't let him, you were obviously in favour of paecophiles? That's the sort of lame brain that Harper had to keep a leash on.


Every party has its crackpots.

Sven Robinson comes to mind for the N.D.P.
 
petros
+1
#296
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier View Post

Every party has its crackpots.
Sven Robinson comes to mind for the N.D.P.

And along came Hedy Fry to pick up where Robinson left off.
 
Curious Cdn
No Party Affiliation
+1
#297
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

And along came Hedy Fry to pick up where Robinson left off.

She was the crackiest pot of them all.
 
Curious Cdn
No Party Affiliation
#298
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

All y' all missed the hint at the spelling "favour" old English "favor" new English!

"Favor" isn't English. It's Webster American.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#299
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

"Favor" isn't English. It's Webster American.


I'd say "American" - never mind Webster! One thing I have to admit about the Yanks, they have a more common sense approach to spelling English words. The main purpose of speech is communication, why make it any more f*cking difficult than it has to be? Blokes can be stubborn to the point of being stupid!
 
Curious Cdn
No Party Affiliation
#300
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

I'd say "American" - never mind Webster!

Well, Merriam Webster intentionally simplified American spellings back in the 19th century when he published his dictionary. Dropping the "our" in favour, flavour, etc. and spelling it with a simple "or" was part of that. The surprising thing is that nearly two centuries later, the rest of the english speaking world has not followed them ... only in America.
 

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