Man set to recant oath to the Queen right after citizenship ceremony


gerryh
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TORONTO – A soon-to-be Canadian has served notice that he plans to recant the mandatory Oath of Allegiance to the Queen immediately after he becomes a citizen.

In a letter sent to the citizenship court judge earlier this month, Dror Bar-Natan states his opposition to the oath, which he calls “repulsive,” and his plan to renege on the pledge following his citizenship ceremony on Monday.

The Queen is a symbol of entrenched and outdated privilege and the pledge is tantamount to a “hazing” ritual, Bar-Natan said in an interview.


Man set to recant oath to the Queen right after citizenship ceremony | Globalnews.ca


well... this useless piece of shyte can take his sorry a$$ back to Israel then.
 
CDNBear
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Or we can just strip him of his citizenship, and leave him as a landed immigrant.
 
B00Mer
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Canada should ditch the Queen and become a Republic.
 
gerryh
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

Canada should ditch the Queen and become a Republic.

why? Canada has been a Parliamentary Monarchy for close to 150 years now. Why should we, as Canadians, "dump" the Monarchy because of a few "immigrants". If you don't like the fact that Canada has a Queen as head of state, then fu ck off and live some where else.
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

why? Canada has been a Parliamentary Monarchy for close to 150 years now. Why should we, as Canadians, "dump" the Monarchy because of a few "immigrants". If you don't like the fact that Canada has a Queen as head of state, then fu ck off and live some where else.

Triggered!!
 
gerryh
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

Triggered!!

????
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

????



That's right deflect
 
AnnaG
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Becoming a democratic republic is attractive but it would be really expensive and would take a long time. Best we just continue even if we do have to carry a little dead weight.
 
gerryh
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You off your meds again boomer? What the hell are you talking about now?

Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaG View Post

Becoming a democratic republic is attractive but it would be really expensive and would take a long time. Best we just continue even if we do have to carry a little dead weight.


and what "dead weight" would that be?
 
AnnaG
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Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

You off your meds again boomer? What the hell are you talking about now?




and what "dead weight" would that be?

The monarchy and parliament in general.
 
WLDB
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

Canada should ditch the Queen and become a Republic.

Damn we agree twice in 24 hours. Weird.
 
Walter
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Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

TORONTO – A soon-to-be Canadian has served notice that he plans to recant the mandatory Oath of Allegiance to the Queen immediately after he becomes a citizen.

In a letter sent to the citizenship court judge earlier this month, Dror Bar-Natan states his opposition to the oath, which he calls “repulsive,” and his plan to renege on the pledge following his citizenship ceremony on Monday.

The Queen is a symbol of entrenched and outdated privilege and the pledge is tantamount to a “hazing” ritual, Bar-Natan said in an interview.


Man set to recant oath to the Queen right after citizenship ceremony | Globalnews.ca


well... this useless piece of shyte can take his sorry a$$ back to Israel then.

Just another azzhole.
 
WLDB
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Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

why? Canada has been a Parliamentary Monarchy for close to 150 years now. Why should we, as Canadians, "dump" the Monarchy because of a few "immigrants". If you don't like the fact that Canada has a Queen as head of state, then fu ck off and live some where else.

No, we shouldnt do it because of immigrants, we should do it because monarchy in general is archaic. It never made sense as a form of government. Not now, not 500 years ago or 1500 years ago. The idea that a person becomes head of state just because they happened to be born into the right family is just flat out stupid.

Now as for the f*cking off part. You don't have to like my opinion and can oppose it, but you cant dictate who can or cannot live here based on whether or not you like or agree with their opinion.

Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaG View Post

Becoming a democratic republic is attractive but it would be really expensive and would take a long time.

Yeah it isnt going to happen anytime soon but it'd be nice if it happened in my lifetime.

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

Or we can just strip him of his citizenship, and leave him as a landed immigrant.

Not sure if the law would support that. We'll see.
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

TORONTO – A soon-to-be Canadian has served notice that he plans to recant the mandatory Oath of Allegiance to the Queen immediately after he becomes a citizen.

In a letter sent to the citizenship court judge earlier this month, Dror Bar-Natan states his opposition to the oath, which he calls “repulsive,” and his plan to renege on the pledge following his citizenship ceremony on Monday.

The Queen is a symbol of entrenched and outdated privilege and the pledge is tantamount to a “hazing” ritual, Bar-Natan said in an interview.


Man set to recant oath to the Queen right after citizenship ceremony | Globalnews.ca


well... this useless piece of shyte can take his sorry a$$ back to Israel then.

And he thought he was coming to a state that respected freedom of belief. Anyone who disagrees with Canada's traditional beliefs aught to be introduced to a regimental firing squad as soon as possible!
 
Curious Cdn
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What is he? ... an Alberta separatist?
 
gerryh
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Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaG View Post

The monarchy and parliament in general.


Prove it.

Quote: Originally Posted by WLDB View Post

No, we shouldnt do it because of immigrants, we should do it because monarchy in general is archaic. It never made sense as a form of government. Not now, not 500 years ago or 1500 years ago. The idea that a person becomes head of state just because they happened to be born into the right family is just flat out stupid.

Now as for the f*cking off part. You don't have to like my opinion and can oppose it, but you cant dictate who can or cannot live here based on whether or not you like or agree with their opinion.




Were you born here? Do you hold 2 citizenships? If you answered no to both, then my statement didn't apply to you.

Now, if as a Canadian, you were to start talking separatism, that would be a different kettle of fish and I would be telling you to fu ck off if you didn't like Canada. KNow why? Because I have the same right as you do to voice my fu cking opinion!
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

why? Canada has been a Parliamentary Monarchy for close to 150 years now. Why should we, as Canadians, "dump" the Monarchy because of a few "immigrants". If you don't like the fact that Canada has a Queen as head of state, then fu ck off and live some where else.

I don't recognise the queen as head the country either. It is embarrassing to kiss a foreigner's azz in this day.

There are two things that don't belong in our constitution. That is god and monarch.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

I don't recognise the queen as head the country either. It is embarrassing to kiss a foreigner's azz in this day.

You had better get used to it because it is practically impossible for us to get rid of the Monarchy under our current constitution. Everyone ... and I mean EVERY province would have to agree with it, to begin. Rots 'o ruck with that.
 
gerryh
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

I don't recognise the queen as head the country either. It is embarrassing to kiss a foreigner's azz in this day.

There are two things that don't belong in our constitution. That is god and monarch.


That's wonderful. This idiot CHOSE to immigrate to Canada. He already knew what our form of government was. If he doesn't like it, then fu ck off. He is no different than any other immigrant coming to this country, wanting to change it, or not wanting to follow our customs, laws, and beliefs.
 
lone wolf
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He needs the card to go and do some shyte somewhere else. Bust him now and save the search....
 
taxslave
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Seems to me that ungrateful immigrants changed quite a lot of things since Columbus first drifted in.
 
lone wolf
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I should say so! Columbus went home....
 
gerryh
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Seems to me that ungrateful immigrants changed quite a lot of things since Columbus first drifted in.


One problem with your "scenario", they weren't "immigrants" back then, and Columbus came no where near present day Canada.
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

That's wonderful. This idiot CHOSE to immigrate to Canada. He already knew what our form of government was. If he doesn't like it, then fu ck off. He is no different than any other immigrant coming to this country, wanting to change it, or not wanting to follow our customs, laws, and beliefs.

So let's say a foreigner marries a Canadian and they have a child and later they decide to move to Canada to move closer to his in-laws but he disagrees with monarchy, we should keep him out of the country even if it divides him from his family. Ah how we priorities family values today.

But hey, as long as she doesn't abort, there is nothing wrong with the state dividing families.

I take it you care till the kid's born,right.
 
DaSleeper
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I'm not a fan of the monarchy but if you want to move here, you should be ready to accept the rules that exist and the system here.
If you want to change the system later on, do it the proper way! And don't be an âss about it and Pîss and moan
 
gerryh
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Quote: Originally Posted by Machjo View Post

So let's say a foreigner marries a Canadian and they have a child and later they decide to move to Canada to move closer to his in-laws but he disagrees with monarchy, we should keep him out of the country even if it divides him from his family. Ah how we priorities family values today.

But hey, as long as she doesn't abort, there is nothing wrong with the state dividing families.

I take it you care till the kid's born,right.


Is he willing to take that citizenship oath? Is he going to recant afterwards? Then it would be HIS choice. "WE" are not doing sweet pi$$ all. He has the choice. It is ALL up to him to follow the rules or not. You can't blame "we" or "us" or "Canada" for someone not willing to follow the rules or take responsibility for their own actions.
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

Is he willing to take that citizenship oath? Is he going to recant afterwards? Then it would be HIS choice. "WE" are not doing sweet pi$$ all. He has the choice. It is ALL up to him to follow the rules or not. You can't blame "we" or "us" or "Canada" for someone not willing to follow the rules or take responsibility for their own actions.

True enough. So of what value is an oath taken under duress? Today we have immigrants and Quebec separatist politicians swearing allegiance to the Queen. I'm even aware of at least one man who'd gone through the motions to pretend to profess the Catholic Faith to send his child to a better local school.

The problem is that Canadian law makes it so profitable to pretend to be this or that that it's turning us into a country of spineless pretenders to the point that we don't truly know who believes what anymore, effectively cheapen in the oath of Allegiance into nothing more than an empty meaningless formality.

We might as well make them all pretend to profess the Christian Faith while we're at it.
 
gerryh
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what duress? They know what is required, if they are unwilling to do it, then they can leave. If they choose to take the oath, but don't believe, then they are liars and if found out should not be allowed into this country.
 
Ludlow
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sounds like bumper sticker material to me.
 
Cannuck
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Good for him. **** the queen and all she represents