ABEXIT - is it time for Alberta to think about leaving Canada?


petros
+1
#991
Electric jet syndrome again?
 
petros
+1
#992
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

you couldn't ship a gallon of that Alberta crud out of Seattle
they don't want it
and no Im not comparing Seattle to Vancouver because they are not comparable. Vancouver is a major port, seattle is not.

There isn't a Shell refinery in WA getting feedstock from AB? How about former BP refinery Cherry Point? Ferndale? Anacortes?
Last edited by petros; 6 days ago at 06:36 PM..
 
Hoid
#993
do you think they can handle the entire provincial output?
 
petros
+2
#994
20% of the oil going into WA is from AB. Fact
 
Hoid
#995
there is no western separatist movement, fact
 
petros
+3
#996
Wexit is very real.
 
JLM
#997
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Wexit is very real.


In theory for sure!
 
taxslave
+2
#998
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

there is no western separatist movement, fact

More of your bullshit.
There is a western separatist group. I don't think they are very organized yet. There is also a group that wants to make the west of both countries into a new country. Again I don't think they are very organized but they are around.
 
JLM
#999
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

More of your bullshit.
There is a western separatist group. I don't think they are very organized yet. There is also a group that wants to make the west of both countries into a new country. Again I don't think they are very organized but they are around.


I don't think it would work, thanks to a lot of snobby Canadian attitudes towards Americans.
 
Hoid
#1000
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

More of your bullshit.
There is a western separatist group. I don't think they are very organized yet. There is also a group that wants to make the west of both countries into a new country. Again I don't think they are very organized but they are around.

Alberta just had an election and elected zero separatists.
 
JLM
+1
#1001
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Alberta just had an election and elected zero separatists.


So that precludes a Western Separatist movement?
 
Hoid
#1002
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

So that precludes a Western Separatist movement?

if there's such a big movement why nobody elected?

Because nobody ran?
 
Twin_Moose
+1
#1003
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

there is no western separatist movement, fact

Western Independence Party

Western Canada Independence Party

WESTERN CANADA CONCEPT

WESTERN BLOCK PARTY
 
Curious Cdn
#1004
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

So that precludes a Western Separatist movement?

Criminal underground's never quite go away.

There's still a Quebec separatist movement, a Vatican Inquisitor, the KKK and the Cosa Nostra, too.
 
JLM
#1005
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

if there's such a big movement why nobody elected?

Because nobody ran?


Don't ask me, I don't normally stick my nose into that shit!
 
petros
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#1006
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

In theory for sure!

Formation of political parties is theory?
 
petros
+2
#1007
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

if there's such a big movement why nobody elected?
Because nobody ran?

The Reform Party came 2 seats short of being the Opposition.

None were elected he says. What a maroon.

Electric jets...
 
spilledthebeer
#1008
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Electric jet syndrome again?




Yeah- hemerHOID has spoken often about......................


what HE BELIEVES isthe need ...................................


for electric TOY air planes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As if LIE-berals had not already wasted enough money on electric TOY cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
spilledthebeer
#1009
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

if there's such a big movement why nobody elected?

Because nobody ran?




POOR hemerHOID......................................... .......


he thinks we have not noticed......................................


that "Abexit" is a word used by LIE-berals and delusional dreamers.......................................... ..


to DISTRACT the rest of us.....................................


from REAL ISSUES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Now - Consider the LIE-beral GREAT pipe line LIE............................................... ...................








Here is an article illustrating the duplicity of Our idiot Boy Justin and his loser LIE-berals!! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Hypocrisy of Guilbeault nomination nothing new for Trudeau

By Lorne Gunter

Published: July 13, 2019. Updated: July 13, 2019 4:00 PM EDT

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Columnists

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, left, raises the hand of Steven Guilbeault during an event to launch his candidacy for the Liberal Party of Canada in Montreal, Wednesday, July 10, 2019.Graham Hughes / The Canadian Press

Justin Trudeau wants Quebec seats so badly in this fall’s election that he doesn’t care what he does to Alberta, as long as it brings him votes in Montreal.

(Our idiot Boy told us his truth when he stated he wanted to make Canada carbon free and to kill the Alberta oil patch!! The idiot Boy has no interest in the cost to Cdns of fulfilling his ideological quest as facts related to economic reality are not part of his party policy - if economic reality ever intruded into his life- he would be in a PANIC over the Cdn debt levels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

On Wednesday, there was the prime minister and Liberal leader hoisting clutched hands high with long-time anti-oil activist Steven Guilbeault who had just become Trudeau’s nominee in the Montreal-area riding of Laurier-Sainte-Marie.

(Our idiot Boy has just celebrated the nomination of a candidate who is fundamentally OPPOSED to the LIE-beral claim that they do intend to build the Kinder Morgan pipeline!! Either Guilbeault will quickly be dumped from LIE-beral caucus for kicking up a fuss as the Pipe construction begins- or MORE LIKELY he will quietly celebrate with other LIE-berals as they find one excuse after another to delay the Pipe construction FOREVER!! Delay forever seems CLEARLY to be the LIE-beral intention!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Trudeau also attempted to pump up the crowd over how he’d managed to recruit such a star candidate. Trudeau seemed genuinely proud that this staunch opponent of the Trans Mountain and Energy East pipelines would be carrying the Liberal banner in the October vote.

(Of course Our idiot Boy is proud- he has recruited a candidate with political pull in Quebec- and the candidate shares the Trudope opinion of oil- and the new candidate is obviously NOT PUT OFF by hypocritical Trudope statements about oil and pipelines!! Apparently the new candidate APPROVES of LIE-beral economic DUPLICITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Never mind that Guilbeault has worked nearly 25 years with Greenpeace and other environmental organizations to choke the life out of Alberta’s major industry -not to mention a major source of revenue for the federal government Trudeau heads.

(All aspiring dictators know that when a country is in economic turmoil there is opportunity for the dictator to make a power grab - and such is the not so subtle Soviet Socialist value system of Our idiot Boy- it is why he is so complacent about massive economy disrupting DEBT!! The idiot Boy wants us to panic and to grasp frantically at vile LIE-beral straws!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

And never mind that Guilbeault claims to have told Trudeau he will never support the Trans Mountain pipeline, even if he is elected as a Liberal MP, and that Trudeau supposedly told him, according to the National Observer, “fine, I don’t have any problems with that.”

(Wilson Raybould was DEMOTED for not toeing the party line on Lavalin so what will prevent Guilbeault from being dumped over future Pipeline construction?? Unless Our idiot Boy actually has NO INTENTION to continue Pipeline building?????????????)

If you want to understand how enraging and offensive this is in the West, consider this: What do you think the reaction would be among women’s rights and reproductive choice groups if Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer beamed about snagging a top pro-lifer as a Tory candidate? Or among LGBTQ advocates if the Tories selected a practitioner of conversion therapy?

(LIE-berals have written off big chunks of the Cdn public as being “politically backward” and or irrelevant!! LIE-berals know that some people will never be taken in by LIE-beral Fake News!! And LIE-berals feel safe in ignoring the over 55 percent of Cdns who never bother to vote!! If you don’t vote- then you have NO OPINION -and LIE-berals can SAFELY IGNORE YOU as they please!!!!!!!!)

The same lib-left media that largely ignored Guilbeault’s nomination -or at least glossed over the message it conveyed- would be obsessed for days if Scheer endorsed a known anti-abortion activist or anti-gay, anti-trans therapist.

It would be claimed Scheer had a hidden agenda to limit women’s right to choose or to send LGBTQ Canadians back into the closet. Countless analysts would insist Scheer himself was secretly plotting to send Canadian women back into alleyways for the procedures they seek.

There would have be no end of claims Scheer was a hypocrite.

But aside from a couple of articles explaining how Trudeau and Guilbeault are reconciling one man’s approval of Trans Mountain with the other’s inflexible opposition to it, there has been almost no speculation whether this nomination signals that Trudeau is really a two-faced eco-freak whose hidden agenda is to shut down Canada’s oil industry.

(And our LIE-beral loving news media has NO PLANS to confront Trudope regarding this obvious pipeline conflict of interest that seems so heavily laced with Trudope HYPOCRISY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The Guilbeault nomination/hypocrisy is really nothing new for Trudeau who has been trying to play both sides -pro-pipeline and anti-pipeline- off against one another for years.

(Trudope does not care what Cdns want - UNLESS they happen to be card carrying LIE-berals AND chose to vote regularly for LIE-beral candidates!! The hopes and wishes of all others are happily IGNORED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The Liberals approved Trans Mountain for the second time in June, then within days passed two laws that make another pipeline anywhere across the country nearly impossible. No doubt the hope among Liberal campaign strategists is that the approval will be enough to calm voters worried about the economy and fearful that the Trudeau administration will sacrifice jobs and development for environmental theories. Meanwhile, Bill C-48 (the tanker ban) and Bill C-69 (the tightening of eco-assessment rules) will convince “green” voters the Libs share their concern for carbon emissions and climate change.

(Is it not amazing that some people still think LIE-berals are sincere about building any new pipelines??????????????????)

It’s a dangerous seesaw to play on. Just as with the Guilbeault nomination, it’s a two-sided game that could come back to bite those playing it.

I once worked for a cabinet minister who advised me that “when you try to stand on both sides of a fence at the same time, you usually just end up with a picket in your butt.” Except he didn’t say “butt.”

(LIE-beral handling of all party policy is riddled with such fence sitting hypocrisy!! National security and economic issues are generating rage and frustration among many Cdns and among our FORMER ALLIES - who find Trudope standing ON THE WRONG SIDE in any discussion of Muslim Terror, Iranian nuclear madness, or Chinese bully boy tactics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(The LIE-beral vision for the future Cdn economy is riddled with the same taint of major hypocrisy that collapsed the Venezuelan economy!! LIE-beral social engineering and wild debt loads are having major impacts on our standard of living and that suits LIE-berals just fine as there is no need for peasants to own anything or have savings or access to fresh air and northern lakes!!!!!)

(LIE-berals think to save the environment by FORCING most of us to live our lives in tiny concrete boxes as if we were two legged TERMITES unable to stand exposure to the Sun!! By confining us to the little boxes - LIE-berals think to save substantially on energy, road building costs and reduced need for any public transit since the few of us that have jobs will be so jammed together that we can easily walk or bicycle to our McJobs or to the welfare office and food bank!!!!!!!!)

Whatever goodwill -and it wasn’t much - that Trudeau’s approval of Trans Mountain bought him in the West last month, it evaporated and then some with his embrace of Guilbeault as a Liberal candidate.

(Good will does not endure around those who are exposed as HYPOCRITES displaying deliberate contempt for the peasant masses the LIE-berals plan to rule over and to profit handsomely from!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 
Hoid
#1010
0 western separatists in the Alberta legislature

what a massive movement!
 
Curious Cdn
#1011
It's an Alberta ocean wave!
 
JLM
#1012
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

if there's such a big movement why nobody elected?

Because nobody ran?


Movements and political parties are two entirely different things! How many Girl Guides do you see in gov't. God you can be thick!
 
Hoid
#1013
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Movements and political parties are two entirely different things! How many Girl Guides do you see in gov't. God you can be thick!

thinks that Alberta can separate from Canada when there is not a single elected separatist in the legislature.

does not like thick people
 
MHz
#1014
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Wexit is very real.

No it isn't a real popular or a very realistic. Not that there isn't a dream, in practical terms it doesn't get any more traction that selling a few 'Republic of ____' shirts/flags/posters/coffee cups that they paid somebody else to make, the winner, like every non productive idea that gets funding, was the same as always, the only winners are the 'advertisers'. Pull that funding and the Media changes what it it supports overnight, on might have to float the idea that they are working together rather tahn they aree eternal enemies.


In France the out of work people just happen to have found a use for all the safety vests that would have been made for about 5 years of normal productivity. The cause is 'carbon tax' and that is the cover story for production taking a nose-dive because of all the sanctions against Russia and Syria and Iran. If you can't get all 3 you don't get any of them and more will bail if the threat of military action is not a clear and present danger. IE Would SK have a referendum on joining China, as would NK, if NATO was not there in force to make sure the Golden Triangle stays in the hands of the same entity that controls NATO and the Stock Market and the Black Market.


What should go ahead is the north and south should split from sea to shining sea. The south gets to keep all the money they can generate. The people in the north are mostly Treaty Indians so they have a steady income and Rez Stores are also tax-free zones, they just need to be up-sized to the scale E-bay could make it and keep the 'free-shipping' part attached. 2 months if it comes from China compared to 2 years if lower Cantada is delivering it.

A northern route would pay for itself as well as not putting stress on the south that they cannot adapt to, partly because the rail/road system they build is closed more often than it is open, to moving a lot of good into and out of the area without being able to double the price of what is inside the containers. AB should be trying to join the northern Provinces and donate the bottom part to the rest of Canada as a going away present. E-Bay is the digital version of Sear's Mail-order and they would still be in business if they had kept that end and ditched the retail stores in malls that have a Walmart and a few Dollar Stores and the occasional disaster that makes the news for a week. If the south if moving to that trend the north should be leading the way rather than being left in the dust, again.

Churchill would be a major depot as it would service the whole bay area as well as being the easier way to get goods to the north-west. Linking the many lakes together for barges and ice-roads would have a system that fully linked in just a few years using equipment that is rusting away at the present. Also at the present is the use of matting to get across clay that turns to quicksand when 'driven on'
 
Twin_Moose
+4
#1015
It has to get a lot warmer for Churchill to be a viable all season port
 
JLM
+2
#1016
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

thinks that Alberta can separate from Canada when there is not a single elected separatist in the legislature.

does not like thick people


What's to prevent folks from all political parties voting for separation?
 
Hoid
#1017
The fact that nobody voted them in to do that?
 
JLM
#1018
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

The fact that nobody voted them in to do that?


It could probably be accomplished with a referendum!
 
Hoid
#1019
Who is going to even propose it?

Nobody was elected as a separatist.
 
Twin_Moose
+3
#1020
Didn't Kenney hint at it recently?