Ukraine Flight 752 "Crash" killing 176 innocent people


View Poll Results: Why did flight 752 crash?
Tragic accident 2 13.33%
Shot down by Iranian missles 12 80.00%
Unsure 1 6.67%
Voters: 15. You may not vote on this poll

petros
+1
#391
Didnt you know? Everybody but Europeans and North Americans live in tin or mud huts shared with their herd of goats.
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#392
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Michel Aoun the Christian President of Lebanon sides with Saudis and this is pissing off Hezbollah. Lebanon is on the brink of Civil war.




So...............its a NORMAL DAY in the Middle East!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And what about the old Black September Movement???????????????????????


BSM was started by PISSED OFF Palestinians who got THROWN OUT OF LEBANON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Or Jordan.................................OR MAYBE IT WAS BOTH PLACES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I cannot be bothered to look it up or refresh my memory......................................



The Palestinians were following standard Muslim policy and PISSING OFF THE LOCALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


To the Point that the locals CALLED IN SYRIAN TANK BRIGADES from the father of Syrian asshat Bashir Assad.......................


and the Palestinians fought a series of pitched battles....................................


until DAFFY GHADAFFY the Libyan nutbar invited all the PLO fighters to come to his desert pest hole...............................


and form the Black September Movement..............................


that hated both Israelis AND Jordanians and Lebanese!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You just cannot keep track of all the Muslim Militias and their rivalries without a program!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The ONLY CONSOLATION in all this Middle East CRAP................................


is they all hate each other even more than they hate westerners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The average Palestinian view is that Egyptians PROSTITUTE THEMSELVES simply by talking peace to Yankees..........................


and sell themselves CHEAP to be screwed by Israeli tourists coming to Egyptian Red Sea resorts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Any person who thinks peace will break out any time soon in the Middle East...............................


IS WELL AND TRULY DRUGGED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#393
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Didnt you know? Everybody but Europeans and North Americans live in tin or mud huts shared with their herd of goats.






OH THAT`S NOT TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Palestinians LOVE BUILDING WITH CONCRETE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just LOOK AT ALL THE CONCRETE RUBBLE in Gaza and The West Bank!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


PLO fighters LOVE CONCRETE BUILDINGS OF ALL SORTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The lower floors make good bunkers to hide in from Israeli shelling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the concrete roofs are strong enough to support mortars and missile launchers and other such heavy weapons......................


which explains why there are so many Israeli air strikes.....................................


and so much concrete rubble- from structures that used to hold heavy weapons that were being fired into Israel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And which were being used to shelter artillerymen as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Its just to bad about the civilian relatives - stuck on the lower floors while sons, husbands, fathers, uncles etc......................


fire off their daily HATE at the Jews!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#394
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Michel Aoun the Christian President of Lebanon sides with Saudis and this is pissing off Hezbollah. Lebanon is on the brink of Civil war.

I stand corrected, still an example of no peaceful negotiations by Iranian backed Shia groups
 
petros
+2
#395
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

So...............its a NORMAL DAY in the Middle East!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And what about the old Black September Movement???????????????????????

They became the Christian Lebanese Forces and the political Free Patriotic Movement currently in power but that is shaky as the Hezbollah/FPM alliance fell apart.

The Free Patriotic Movement, also known as the Aounist party, is a Lebanese political party, led by Gebran Bassil. The FPM party promotes the rights of Lebanese expatriates and a relatively high minimum wage. The party's support base is overwhelmingly from Lebanon's Christian community. Wikipedia
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#396
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

I stand corrected, still an example of no peaceful negotiations by Iranian backed Shia groups






Oh Moose...............surely you were aware that GOD has promised the Faithful a GREAT VICTORY???????????????


The victory will be so complete that according to the Quran and the Words of the Prophet - peace and blessings be upon him...............


that "even the stones and the trees of the land will have voices and will call to the Faithful to come over here as there is a JEW hiding



behind me so that you may slay him"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why would Iran negotiate - when even the rocks and trees are on their side?????????????????????


And who really thinks that there can be negotiation with people who are ABSOLUTELY CONVINCED.........................


that sooner or later THEY WILL HAVE TOTAL POWER AND AUTHORITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
petros
+2
#397
In parallel, a political crisis has left Lebanon without a government since Sunni Muslim politician Saad al-Hariri quit as prime minister on Oct. 29, bringing down a coalition that included the heavily armed, Iran-backed Shi'ite group Hezbollah.
 
Hoid
#398
Canada is trying to get access to the black box recordings.

This is proving to be very difficult as we have no diplomatic relations with Iran.

Thank you Mr Harper
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#399
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Canada is trying to get access to the black box recordings.
This is proving to be very difficult as we have no diplomatic relations with Iran.
Thank you Mr Harper

So is Ukraine and it is their property
 
Hoid
#400
Ukraine has access (maybe)
 
spilledthebeer
#401
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

They became the Christian Lebanese Forces and the political Free Patriotic Movement currently in power but that is shaky as the Hezbollah/FPM alliance fell apart.

The Free Patriotic Movement, also known as the Aounist party, is a Lebanese political party, led by Gebran Bassil. The FPM party promotes the rights of Lebanese expatriates and a relatively high minimum wage. The party's support base is overwhelmingly from Lebanon's Christian community. Wikipedia




YOU ARE TRULY DELUSIONAL............................


if you think you can get anybody to buy that BIG LUMP OF PROPAGANDA COW SH+T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As if Palestinian MUSLIMS WOULD BECOME LEBANESE CHRISTIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH A!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WHAT A MAROON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NO WONDER LIFE IN THE MIDDLE EAST IS SO MESSED UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Even their favoured propaganda meisters and spin doctors cannot keep track of all the LUNATIC PLAYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As petros has just proved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#402
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Ukraine has access (maybe)




Ukraine has just been told THEY WILL NOT BE GETTING THE BLACK BOXES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


APPARENTLY THERE IS SOMETHING REALLY BAD THAT WAS RECORDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


MAKING IRAN LOOK EVEN WORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And poor hemerHOID does not register on how it makes him look to be supporting terrorists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#403
Quote: Originally Posted by hoid View Post

canada is trying to get access to the black box recordings.

This is proving to be very difficult as we have no diplomatic relations with iran.

Thank you mr harper




you are welcome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


No honest people want to talk or associate with bloody handed terrorists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Throw in their religious mania.......................................


And sensible people will stop even speaking the names of iranian asshats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
spilledthebeer
#404
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

It is encouraging that Iran was talking about compensation in the same announcement as when they admitted to the shoot-down.

I take it as a sign that they have realized that "lie and deny" isn't working for them.

Still some hard negotiations to go, but I agree that it's appropriate for Canada to help families that need it, and reimburse itself from the eventual settlement.




Why dont you go ahead and hold your breath till the IRANIAN CHEQUE IS IN THE MAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I bet you end up turning all manner of FUNNY COLOURS WHILE YOU WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Please take photos of your face at timed intervals.....................................


we all need a good laugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As for what IRANIAN GOVT would consider "fair compensation"..................................... ..


Cdns DO NOT ENJOY BEING PAID OFF MOSTLY WITH SICKLY DISEASE RIDDEN GOATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
petros
+1
#405
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

YOU ARE TRULY DELUSIONAL............................
if you think you can get anybody to buy that BIG LUMP OF PROPAGANDA COW SH+T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As if Palestinian MUSLIMS WOULD BECOME LEBANESE CHRISTIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH A!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT A MAROON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO WONDER LIFE IN THE MIDDLE EAST IS SO MESSED UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even their favoured propaganda meisters and spin doctors cannot keep track of all the LUNATIC PLAYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As petros has just proved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WTF ae you smoking?
 
spilledthebeer
#406
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

WTF ae you smoking?




I dont smoke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Its bad for the lungs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Perhaps you have heard about this stuff?????????????????


You know - the connection to lung cancer and Emphesima!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Or not...............since you seem to know nothing about all the crazy Muslim militias infesting the Middle East.............................



it would not be a big surprise for me to find out you have not heard about the link to smoking and cancer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#407
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Canada is trying to get access to the black box recordings.

This is proving to be very difficult as we have no diplomatic relations with Iran.

Thank you Mr Harper




POOR hemerHOID SAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Iranians ARE MAKING IT CLEAR.......................


they are OPPOSED TO A CLEAR, LOGICAL AND EXPLICIT EXPLANATION............................


of the last minutes of that doomed flight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Iranians have changed their minds and REFUSED to release the black boxes- as of today - to the Ukrainians.................................


and the Cdn inspectors HAVE COME HOME FROM IRAN...................................


without being allowed to do their work - since the Ukrainians dont have the black boxes to offer to Cdn inspectors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#408
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

WTF ae you smoking?

He thinks I am a liberal .
 
B00Mer
No Party Affiliation
#409
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

He thinks I am a liberal .

How insulting.
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
#410
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

It's right in the quote inserted in the post

Or this peaceful negotiations between Iranian backed Hezbollah controlling the Gov. in power

Hundreds injured in Lebanon as violence flares in ‘week of anger’


And I said I didn't know enough about the situation to make any other comment than with Saudi involved I didn't like the situation. I distrust Saudi with a passion.


That said, I also think Iran being involved fuks the situation as well. Yemen is in the middle of an Iran/Saudi war that no one wants to say openly is happening.

As for the Lebanon thing, IMO it's no different than Hong Kong really. People don't trust/want their elected government, are out protesting about it to change it and the current government is retaliating.


But there is a difference between these conflicts, and what happened with the plane and that there are outside nations involved. The inter-regional issues of the Middle East won't ever be solved by negotiation, that's just pretty much fact.

But how it deals with the outside world HAS to be with negotiation with war as a last result.


Sorry that you don't understand that concept.
 
mrhill
#411
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

As for the Lebanon thing, IMO it's no different than Hong Kong really. People don't trust/want their elected government, are out protesting about it to change it and the current government is retaliating.

How come the same thing isn't happening in the US?
 
Tecumsehsbones
+1
#412
Quote: Originally Posted by mrhill View Post

How come the same thing isn't happening in the US?

It is. Not even slightly surprised you aren't aware of that.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#413
Iran considers dual nationals on downed Ukrainian plane to be Iranians: TV

Quote:

DUBAI (Reuters) - Iran considers dual nationals aboard a Ukrainian plane that was shot down accidentally this month to be Iranian citizens, the Foreign Ministry spokesman said on Monday.
Iran does not recognize dual nationality. Many of the 176 people killed in the disaster were Iranians with dual citizenship. Canada had 57 citizens on board.
"We have informed Canada that Tehran considers dual nationals who were killed in the plane crash as Iranian citizens ... Iran is mourning their deaths," Foreign Ministry spokesman Abbas Mousavi told a televised weekly news conference.
As protests erupted in Iran over the plane disaster, the British ambassador in Tehran was briefly detained. Officials said he was at an "illegal" rally, while the envoy said he was attending a vigil for victims. Britain criticized his detention.
"Iran respects all foreign diplomats in Iran as long as they do not violate international laws," Mousavi said.

 
Tecumsehsbones
#414
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Iran considers dual nationals on downed Ukrainian plane to be Iranians: TV

Makes sense. The U.S. does the same thing.