Itís Official. Trump Just Withdrew the U.S. From the Paris Climate Agreement.


EagleSmack
#61
Meanwhile Canada is building more pipelines and stepping up it's "resource extraction projects".

Canada has already pulled out of the agreement.

On the bright side... the world won't end.
 
Twila
#62
further reading:

While Obama agreed to the Paris accord through executive action, the US Senate approved the original treaty that was the UN's basis of the overall Paris agreement back when George H.W. Bush was president in 1992.

Exiting the overall UN agreement would take a year, but would likely require Senate approval. Trump didn't indicate that he wanted to abandon the overall treaty.

Of course, Trump also said he was willing to renegotiate the agreement.



Wonder what they mean by: would likely require Senate approval. What would change to either require or no require it?
 
EagleSmack
+1
#63
Quote: Originally Posted by Twila View Post

further reading:

While Obama agreed to the Paris accord through executive action, the US Senate approved the original treaty that was the UN's basis of the overall Paris agreement back when George H.W. Bush was president in 1992.

Well that is kind of a stretch. Because the Senate ratified a completely separate treaty 1992 (another non-binding and non-enforceable treaty) the author of the article believes that Trump could not pull out of the Paris Deal. A big stretch indeed. Again, just trying to lessen the blow.

Quote:


Exiting the overall UN agreement would take a year, but would likely require Senate approval. Trump didn't indicate that he wanted to abandon the overall treaty.

Of course, Trump also said he was willing to renegotiate the agreement.

The US exited yesterday. The UN can say whatever they please but what they say has no bearing on what the US does. Obama did this under executive order and it has now been undone. The agreement itself was non-binding and non-enforceable. How can they enforce that which is non-enforceable.

He did say he was willing to renegotiate the deal and that is a good thing. I'd like to have the deal that China has.... not obliged to do a thing until 2030. Of course that was the only way China would sign.

It appears that the other signatories of the Paris Deal do not want to renegotiate the deal. Oh well... Trump tried.

Quote: Originally Posted by Twila View Post


Wonder what they mean by: would likely require Senate approval. What would change to either require or no require it?

I do not know what they mean either. It was never ratified by the Senate. The author is reaching for straws.
 
Musky
#64
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

Meanwhile Canada is building more pipelines and stepping up it's "resource extraction projects".

Canada has already pulled out of the agreement.

On the bright side... the world won't end.

Have you....um....read the agreement?

The world will end.....when the sun consumes it.
 
DaSleeper
#65
What is next......withdrawing from United Nations?
Now that would be a loss for the other Counties to pick up the tab.....



https://factly.in/united-nations-bud...ber-countries/
 
Musky
#66
This quote from Trump....is...well.

Frickin hilarious.

"Even if the Paris Agreement were implemented in full, with total compliance from all nations, it is estimated it would only produce a 2/10 of one degree – think of that. This much….Celsius reduction in global temperature by the year 2100. Tiny tiny amount."

Well golly, isn't that the point and.....how....how?

How would it do that? Considering it's a....what's the word....um....covfefe...no that's a secret among Trumps elite....oh yeah....hoax.

I love this guy.
 
Twila
+1
#67
a little more info(?):

America’s commitments under the Paris deal, like those of the other 194 cooperating nations, were voluntary. So those burdens were imaginary.

No, Trump’s abrupt withdrawal from this carefully crafted multilateral compromise was a diplomatic and political slap: It was about extending a middle finger to the world, while reminding his base that he shares its resentments of fancy-pants elites and smarty-pants scientists and tree-hugging squishes who look down on real Americans who drill for oil and dig for coal.

the rest:
Why Trump Actually Pulled Out Of Paris - POLITICO Magazine
 
Musky
#68
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

What is next......withdrawing from United Nations?
Now that would be a loss for the other Counties to pick up the tab.....



https://factly.in/united-nations-bud...ber-countries/

Oh look, a pretty gragh.

What's my count at now Das?

Quote: Originally Posted by Twila View Post

a little more info(?):

Americaís commitments under the Paris deal, like those of the other 194 cooperating nations, were voluntary. So those burdens were imaginary.

No, Trumpís abrupt withdrawal from this carefully crafted multilateral compromise was a diplomatic and political slap: It was about extending a middle finger to the world, while reminding his base that he shares its resentments of fancy-pants elites and smarty-pants scientists and tree-hugging squishes who look down on real Americans who drill for oil and dig for coal.

the rest:
Why Trump Actually Pulled Out Of Paris - POLITICO Magazine

All part of the massive conspiracy.
 
EagleSmack
#69
Quote: Originally Posted by Twila View Post


America’s commitments under the Paris deal, like those of the other 194 cooperating nations, were voluntary. So those burdens were imaginary.

Exactly! What is now known for at least the next few years is that we're out of this non-binding, voluntary agreement. We won't be volunteering any funds nor enacting any economy crippling regulations.

The funny thing is, I don't think Canada is going to be doing any of that either. They are plunging ahead with more pipelines and expanding "resource extraction programs". (oil, natural gas, tar sands... fossil fuels)

Quote: Originally Posted by Musky View Post


All part of the massive conspiracy.

What conspiracy?
 
Johnnny
No Party Affiliation
+1
#70
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

Here's what Earth might look like in 100 years - if we're lucky - ScienceAlert

And for something that the world takes seriously, the leaders of the world just say, "what'evs, we don't need you anyways?", when America emits 20%+ of the world's carbon?

Weird mentality these reptiles in suits have
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#71
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

Itís Official. Trump Just Withdrew the U.S. From the Paris Climate Agreement.

https://futurism.com/its-official-tr...ate-agreement/


It might be a good thing, as we don't know the full story yet and to jump in with both feet before we have ALL the facts is fool hardy at best. Kinda gotta agree with the Donald on this one. Maybe best to take a second look a year or two hence!
 
Musky
#72
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

It might be a good thing, as we don't know the full story yet and to jump in with both feet before we have ALL the facts is fool hardy at best. Kinda gotta agree with the Donald on this one. Maybe best to take a second look a year or two hence!

Did you read it?
 
EagleSmack
#73
Quote: Originally Posted by Musky View Post

Did you read it?

I have to ask now... did you read it?

Quote: Originally Posted by Johnnny View Post

And for something that the world takes seriously, the leaders of the world just say, "what'evs, we don't need you anyways?", when America emits 20%+ of the world's carbon?

Weird mentality these reptiles in suits have

It has been a roller coaster for them. Everything from "what evs" to "mass extinction". They need to get their reactions in sync.
 
Musky
#74
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

I have to ask now... did you read it?



It has been a roller coaster for them. Everything from "what evs" to "mass extinction". They need to get their reactions in sync.

Of course not.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#75
Quote: Originally Posted by Musky View Post

Did you read it?


I listened to it on the radio!
 
Musky
#76
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

I listened to it on the radio!

I take that as a no.
 
B00Mer
No Party Affiliation
#77
https://www.facebook.com/ATTNVideo/v...0752399229714/
 
captain morgan
No Party Affiliation
+1
#78
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

Trudeau 'deeply disappointed' after Trump withdraws from Paris climate agreement | Daily Hive Vancouver

The three countries not part of the Paris Climate Accord:



Nicaragua
Syria
U.S.A.



Let that sink in.

Take all the time you need.

The 3 countries that have a one-option, single payer 'universal' healthcare system

Canada
Cuba
North Korea

Let that sink in..... Take all the time you need

Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

Here's what Earth might look like in 100 years - if we're lucky - ScienceAlert

OMG!!... An ice free North pole since 2013!

Quote: Originally Posted by Twila View Post


No, Trump’s abrupt withdrawal from this carefully crafted multilateral compromise was a diplomatic and political slap: It was about extending a middle finger to the world, while reminding his base that he shares its resentments of fancy-pants elites and smarty-pants scientists and tree-hugging squishes who look down on real Americans who drill for oil and dig for coal.

Unlike the carefully crafted multilateral compromises in the Kyoto Accord and the Copenhagen Agreement.

Can you see the trend here?

Quote: Originally Posted by Johnnny View Post

And for something that the world takes seriously, the leaders of the world just say, "what'evs, we don't need you anyways?", when America emits 20%+ of the world's carbon?

Weird mentality these reptiles in suits have


 
Musky
#79
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

The 3 countries that have a one-option, single payer 'universal' healthcare system

Canada
Cuba
North Korea

Let that sink in..... Take all the time you need



OMG!!... An ice free North pole since 2013!



Unlike the carefully crafted multilateral compromises in the Kyoto Accord and the Copenhagen Agreement.

Can you see the trend here?




Did you read it?

Did any of you?
 
captain morgan
No Party Affiliation
#80
Yes.

 
Musky
#81
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

Yes.

Oh look, a graph.

That proves you read it?
 
Murphy
Conservative
#82
I like graphs.
 
Musky
#83
Quote: Originally Posted by Murphy View Post

I like graphs.

...yeah.....they are pretty.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+1
#84
Quote: Originally Posted by Musky View Post

AGW is a hoax....just ask....ha....ha....Trump.

That Speech....


And you know more about it than he does?
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
+2
#85
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

The Religious Left

It's a cult. The only difference between the religions right and the religious left, is that the religious right worships a man, and the religious left worships a woman. And no, I'm not talking about Hillary Clinton. In the Religion of the left, the God of Global Warming is Mother Nature, the Earth is Heaven, and mankind is the Devil and should be cast out from paradise.
Many of the people who began sounding the global warming alarm, are the same environmental do-gooder flower children, that were foretelling the end of the world in the 1960's and 70's. First, it was the coming of the new ice age. Europe was to be frozen by the year 2000 they exclaimed. Crops would die as much of Europe, Asia and North America are consumed by the ice. Then it was the depletion of the ozone layer. And does anyone remember acid rain? As if living under the threat of a nuclear winter wasn't enough! Carbon taxes, oil rationing, and unrealistic government imposed regulations will be the end results of the misguided efforts of these anti-capitalist enviros.
The common thread in all these scenarios is that mankind is the evil that threatens the Earth. In the extreme green view, mankind is the scourge of this planet, the bottom rung of the ecological ladder. It's a radical view in which the cause is justified by any means necessary, including Eco-activism tactics such as hacking into and changing electronic road signs to display environmental messages. Some may consider these actions to be harmless pranks, but where should we draw the line? When does eco-activism become eco-terrorism? In June, 2001, Jeffrey Luers was sentenced to 22 years in prison for the burning of three SUVs in Eugene, Oregon, with the help of a friend named "Critter" to make a statement about global warming.
More:
The Religion of Global Warming

The most interesting aspect of this religion is that basically none of the adherents are willing to off themselves for the betterment of the planet.
 
captain morgan
No Party Affiliation
+2
#86
Quote: Originally Posted by Musky View Post

Oh look, a graph.

That proves you read it?

You asked and I responded... Prove otherwise or shut your pie-hole
 
Twila
#87
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

And you know more about it than he does?

Just about everyone with the exception of those who voted for trump know more about climate change then the trump.
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
+1 / -1
#88
Quote: Originally Posted by Musky View Post

...yeah.....they are pretty.

the one where they grafted your head on to your body looks like it worked out OK


Quote: Originally Posted by Twila View Post

Just about everyone with the exception of those who voted for trump know more about climate change then the trump.

especially the ones that BELIEVE in it
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#89
Quote: Originally Posted by Twila View Post

Just about everyone with the exception of those who voted for trump know more about climate change then the trump.


I found out many years ago it can be very dangerous to draw conclusions about what other people know.
 
Twila
#90
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

I found out many years ago it can be very dangerous to draw conclusions about what other people know.

Yes it is