The Guardian: Occupy was right: capitalism has failed the world


Tecumsehsbones
#91
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

... But it's so, utilitarian, goes with almost anything you wear

Nah, don't go with a tux at all.
 
mentalfloss
#92
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

... But it's so, utilitarian, goes with almost anything you wear

Needs more elitist and ivory tower.
 
captain morgan
No Party Affiliation
#93
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Nah, don't go with a tux at all.

Well, almost anything

Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Needs more elitist and ivory tower.

Not even wearing a Che t-shirt and beret at a rakish tilt?
 
petros
+1
#94
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post



Not even wearing a Che t-shirt and beret at a rakish tilt?

What you need is one of those Che wearing a Che T-shirt t-shirts.
Last edited by petros; Apr 17th, 2014 at 08:53 AM..
 
mentalfloss
+1
#95
Che wearing the Che T-shirt and hipster glasses, sitting in an ivory tower.

At some point that will show up as an illustration in one of Ezra's next pieces and somewhere, a crowd of 50 somethings at McDonalds will be cheering with patriotic tears in their eyes.
 
petros
#96
If your going the Ezra route, don't forget the lipstick.
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
#97
After giving the matter serious thought I must say capitalism has been good to me. better than any alternatives I can think of. All the others would require kissing someones a$$ to stay alive nrvermind getting ahead.
 
captain morgan
No Party Affiliation
#98
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

After giving the matter serious thought I must say capitalism has been good to me. better than any alternatives I can think of. All the others would require kissing someones a$$ to stay alive nrvermind getting ahead.


Well, there is something to be said about lining up for your weekly vodka and potato rations.

Both are highly utilitarian and valued consumables
 
mentalfloss
#99
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

Well, there is something to be said about lining up for your weekly vodka and potato rations.

Both are highly utilitarian and valued consumables

Actually, early utilitarians favoured a completely unregulated economy in the hopes that it would lead to the greatest good for the most people.
 
captain morgan
No Party Affiliation
#100
When/where did the idea change course?
 
Tecumsehsbones
#101
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

When/where did the idea change course?

Ain't like it ever got off the slips. Early utilitarians, like early every-other-damn-thingians, had a charmingly naive and simplistic view of the world.
 
petros
#102
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Ain't like it ever got off the slips. Early utilitarians, like early every-other-damn-thingians, had a charmingly naive and simplistic view of the world.

I've seen that attitude somewhere recently.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#103
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

I've seen that attitude somewhere recently.

Philosophers tend to carve out a chunk of life and view it in isolation. Which pretty much ignores that all the different areas of life interact. Plus the fact that calling some particular thing a chunk of life and deciding on the boundaries of that chunk is pretty much an exercise in arbitrariness.
 
petros
+1
#104
Compassion.

Compassion can fit into any economic system but compassion always gets abused by greed to the point it makes people jaded and retract from participation in society.

Occupy is a jealousy movement.

Jealousy doesn't fit in any economic system.
Last edited by petros; Apr 17th, 2014 at 09:22 AM..
 
mentalfloss
+1
#105
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Philosophers tend to carve out a chunk of life and view it in isolation. Which pretty much ignores that all the different areas of life interact. Plus the fact that calling some particular thing a chunk of life and deciding on the boundaries of that chunk is pretty much an exercise in arbitrariness.

Ethics is a branch of philosophy worth looking into if you want a more practical approach.

But yea, they gave it about a century before they had to admit that people weren't able to really self govern at that time and made some real gains during the humanitarian revolution in the 18th century.
 
Spade
Free Thinker
#106
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Ethics is a branch of philosophy worth looking into if you want a more practical approach.

But yea, they gave it about a century before they had to admit that people weren't able to really self govern at that time and made some real gains during the humanitarian revolution in the 18th century.

Maybe not "your" people.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#107
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Ethics is a branch of philosophy worth looking into if you want a more practical approach.

No, it really isn't. It's mostly the same kind of tail-chasing tautology as all the other branches.
 
mentalfloss
#108
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

No, it really isn't. It's mostly the same kind of tail-chasing tautology as all the other branches.

Yea that was a pretty unpersuasive statement.
 
Walter
-1
#109
Merde en merde.
Piketty findings undercut by errors - FT.com
 
mentalfloss
+1
#110
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Merde en merde.
Piketty findings undercut by errors - FT.com

Article doesn't say what the errors are and when you try to click the link it puts you behind a paywall.

In a thread about the failure of capitalism your support for capitalism fails... because of a capitalism.


There are probably some planets out there with less iron.
 
Tonington
#111
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Article doesn't say what the errors are and when you try to click the link it puts you behind a paywall.

"For example, once the FT cleaned up and simplified the data, the European numbers do not show any tendency towards rising wealth inequality after 1970. An independent specialist in measuring inequality shared the FT's concerns."

Translation, they changed the answer to something they liked, and they're not going to tell you who the independent expert is, or what they said, and apparently the claim in America holds even after they 'cleaned up and simplified the data'. Sounds like everything is above board...In fact the only economists they quote, have good things to say about Piketty's work.
 
mentalfloss
#112
There's been unchallenged, unanimous support for his work...UNTIL NOW
 
Walter
+1 / -1
#113
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

There's been unchallenged, unanimous support for his work...UNTIL NOW

Unanimous?
Why Piketty Is Wrong: Part 1 - The Math | Seeking Alpha
Piketty Gets It Wrong | National Review Online
Thomas Piketty Gets The Numbers Wrong - Forbes
Piketty Gets It Wrong | Cato Institute
What Piketty Gets Wrong | Ricochet


And the dates suggest these writers have been calling him wrong since Piketty's book hit the stands. Don't you get tired of pulling this stuff out of your a$$.
 
mentalfloss
#114
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Unanimous?
Why Piketty Is Wrong: Part 1 - The Math | Seeking Alpha
Piketty Gets It Wrong | National Review Online
Thomas Piketty Gets The Numbers Wrong - Forbes
Piketty Gets It Wrong | Cato Institute
What Piketty Gets Wrong | Ricochet


And the dates suggest these writers have been calling him wrong since Piketty's book hit the stands. Don't you get tired of pulling this stuff out of your a$$.

I was mimicking the article you posted doof.