Rare Pictish carving of “big nosed warrior” found near Perth


Blackleaf
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A large Pictish stone decorated with what appears to be a big nosed warrior holding a spear and a club has been found by workmen on the outskirts of Perth.

Work on the upgrade to the A85/A9 junction was halted following the discovery with archaeologists called in to examine the stone.

Rare Pictish carving of “big nosed warrior” found near Perth


Detail from the stone found near Perth. PIC: Contributed.

Alison Campsie
The Scotsman
Wednesday 01 November 2017

A large Pictish stone decorated with what appears to be a big nosed warrior holding a spear and a club has been found by workmen on the outskirts of Perth.

Work on the upgrade to the A85/A9 junction was halted following the discovery with archaeologists called in to examine the stone.

Mark Hall, of Perth Museum & Art Gallery, said the stone carried a type of Pictish carving not seen before in the area.

It is likely to be around 1,500 years old and possibly indicates the presence of a high ranking Pictish noble nearby.

A spokesman for Perth and Kinross Council added: “The carving is thought to be extremely significant as very few stones carved with this particular type of image have been found in Scotland and its discovery identifies the importance of the local area in Pictish times.”

Similar Pictish stones have been discovered in Aberdeenshire, the Highlands and Islands, and Shetland.

These all show single figures with grotesque faces and holding one or more weapons.

The new addition from Perth and Kinross shows a figure walking right to left, holding a spear in his right hand. The weapon is typical of spears of the mid first millennium AD. In his left hand he holds a club or a staff however this is unclear.

He appears to be wearing a cloak and shoes and has a very pronounced hair style, with a shaven front scalp. The figure’s face is obscured by wear to the stone but he seems to have had a large nose.

No Pictish archaeological sites are known in the immediate vicinity of where the new carving was found but the stone does suggest the presence of a powerful noble locally.

The stone probably served to warn travellers and visitors that they were approaching his residence or territory.

Examination of the stone continues and The Scottish Treasure Trove has been notified.

The carving will be allocated to a museum in due course.

Leader of Perth & Kinross Council, Councillor Ian Campbell said: “I am led to believe Pictish symbol stones come in many shapes and sizes, and date broadly to the sixth-eighth centuries AD.

“I understand very little is known about the purpose of Pictish stones and the real meaning of the symbols they carry. In terms of their function, theories include their serving as grave markers or memorials to Pictish nobles, or their standing as territorial markers.

“I look forward to hearing what the experts conclude from their examination of this clearly fascinating stone.”

David Strachan of Perth and Kinross Heritage Trust added: “I would like to take this opportunity to thank the finders of the carving for drawing it to our attention.

“This is a really significant find as there are very few such stones known in Scotland, it’s a signal of the importance of the area in Pictish times.”

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Curious Cdn
#2
Maybe, It's a Pictish picture of one of the Romans that they eviscerated.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Maybe, It's a Pictish picture of one of the Romans that they eviscerated.

It's likely a high-ranking Pictish noble.
 
Curious Cdn
#4
Some of my family come from that Pictish part of Perthshire. I don't have any tattoos, though.
 
Danbones
#5
you sho do gots dem blues doah
 
Blackleaf
#6
A brief history of the ancient Pict Kingdoms of Scotland


Pictish Village, Broch of Gurness


OFTEN regarded as savage warriors, the Picts were actually one of Scotland’s earliest civilizations with a sophisticated culture and long history. Research into the genetic origins of Scots found that 10 per cent of Scottish men are directly descended from the Picts. Speaking in 2013, Dr Jim Wilson, a senior lecturer in population and disease genetics at the University of Edinburgh, said: “As you go up your family tree there are all sorts of paths. But if we can see that about 10 per cent of fatherlines look to have a Pictish origin, then we can make the prediction that probably a lot of the other lines do.” Yet mystery has long surrounded the fate of the tribe of fierce enigmatic people who battled with Rome’s legions before seeming to disappear leaving behind a rich history. The Picts were some of the first settlers in Scotland, myths tell of their descent from the Celtic goddess Brighid, their lineage passed down from the female line. Kenneth I - the first King of Scotland - was descended from this line, his mother being one of the Pictish Queens. Brighid was a Celtic Goddess, from the Tuath de Danaan, which legend says were an ancient fairy race of Ireland. The first King’s wife - although never named - is said to be a direct descendant, as are all the subsequent royals, right down to Queen Elizabeth II. Even the name “Britain” is derived from Brigihd, named for the people who worshipped her, the Brigantes. Pictish Stone in the Museum of Scotland. But very little is known of the beginnings of these ancient northern kingdoms - the first record consisting of just a list of kings, dating back to 312. The kings were named in the Pictish Chronicle, thought to be dated from King Kenneth II of Scotland, who ruled Scotland from 971 until 995. The first recorded King of the Picts was Vipoig, who reigned from 312–342. Not much is recorded about these early kings, other than that they held off attacks from both the Romans and Angles, living in their own separate community about the Firth of Forth. The Angles were ruled by King Oswiu in 642, and were rapidly expanding north, taking the River Forth and heading up towards the River Tay. King Oswiu acted as an overlord, demanding the subordination of the Britons, Gaels and now the Picts. When he passed away, a new Northumberian king was chosen - Ecgfrith, in 664 - and he wasted no time in setting out to crush the Picts, slaughtering an entire colony near Grangemouth. According to Northumberland reports, so many Picts were slaughtered that it was possible to walk across the River Carron without getting your feet wet. The Pictish King Bridei lead the Picts in retaliation for the massacre at Grangemouth. As the Angles advanced on the Pictish fortress of Dunnottar, Bridei set his trap. The battle records of Dun Nechtain against the northern Angles station in Northumbria were so well preserved, that we know it was fought on Saturday March 2, 685 at 3pm. The Angles spotted a Pictish warband and set of in fast pursuit, climbing down over Dunnichen Hill. They found themselves surrounded, the main body of the army lying in wait, trapping the Angles with the loch behind them, where all met their fate. After that moment, the Picts and Gaels were freed from the overlords, the Angles never recovering their hold on Scotland. When Kenneth I rose to power in 843, he wanted to conquer the Picts, their armies having murdered his father in battle. The story goes that in 848, Kenneth invited the Pictish King Drust IX and the remaining Pictish nobles to Scone, under the pretense of peace negotiations. While the Pictish men were at dinner, the Gaels released the bolts from their benches causing them to fall into hidden spike filled pits below, wiping out an almost millennium old lineage. Kenneth McAlpine went on to claim the remaining Picts and northern Scottish lands for himself, and in the process became the first King of Scotland. Within a few generations, the Pictish language was forgotten, the Pictish Church taken over by the Scottish Colombian Church and most artefacts of Pictish culture erased.


Pictish Stone in the Museum of Scotland

A brief history of the ancient Pict Kingdoms of Scotland - The Scotsman
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Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

you sho do gots dem blues doah

Woad betide thee!
 
Blackleaf
#8
I disgaree with this statement:

Even the name “Britain” is derived from Brigihd, named for the people who worshipped her, the Brigantes.

"Britain", of course, comes from "Britannia", and the Brigantes were not Picts. They were the tribe which occupied a vast swathe of what is now Northern England.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

A brief history of the ancient Pict Kingdoms of Scotland


Pictish Village, Broch of Gurness


OFTEN regarded as savage warriors, the Picts were actually one of Scotland’s earliest civilizations with a sophisticated culture and long history. Research into the genetic origins of Scots found that 10 per cent of Scottish men are directly descended from the Picts. Speaking in 2013, Dr Jim Wilson, a senior lecturer in population and disease genetics at the University of Edinburgh, said: “As you go up your family tree there are all sorts of paths. But if we can see that about 10 per cent of fatherlines look to have a Pictish origin, then we can make the prediction that probably a lot of the other lines do.” Yet mystery has long surrounded the fate of the tribe of fierce enigmatic people who battled with Rome’s legions before seeming to disappear leaving behind a rich history. The Picts were some of the first settlers in Scotland, myths tell of their descent from the Celtic goddess Brighid, their lineage passed down from the female line. Kenneth I - the first King of Scotland - was descended from this line, his mother being one of the Pictish Queens. Brighid was a Celtic Goddess, from the Tuath de Danaan, which legend says were an ancient fairy race of Ireland. The first King’s wife - although never named - is said to be a direct descendant, as are all the subsequent royals, right down to Queen Elizabeth II. Even the name “Britain” is derived from Brigihd, named for the people who worshipped her, the Brigantes. Pictish Stone in the Museum of Scotland. But very little is known of the beginnings of these ancient northern kingdoms - the first record consisting of just a list of kings, dating back to 312. The kings were named in the Pictish Chronicle, thought to be dated from King Kenneth II of Scotland, who ruled Scotland from 971 until 995. The first recorded King of the Picts was Vipoig, who reigned from 312–342. Not much is recorded about these early kings, other than that they held off attacks from both the Romans and Angles, living in their own separate community about the Firth of Forth. The Angles were ruled by King Oswiu in 642, and were rapidly expanding north, taking the River Forth and heading up towards the River Tay. King Oswiu acted as an overlord, demanding the subordination of the Britons, Gaels and now the Picts. When he passed away, a new Northumberian king was chosen - Ecgfrith, in 664 - and he wasted no time in setting out to crush the Picts, slaughtering an entire colony near Grangemouth. According to Northumberland reports, so many Picts were slaughtered that it was possible to walk across the River Carron without getting your feet wet. The Pictish King Bridei lead the Picts in retaliation for the massacre at Grangemouth. As the Angles advanced on the Pictish fortress of Dunnottar, Bridei set his trap. The Battle records of Dun Nechtain against the northern Angles station in Northumbria were so well preserved, that we know it was fought on Saturday March 2, 685 at 3pm. The Angles spotted a Pictish warband and set of in fast pursuit, climbing down over Dunnichen Hill. They found themselves surrounded, the main body of the army lying in wait, trapping the Angles with the Loch behind them, where all met their fate. After that moment, the Picts and Gaels were freed from the overlords, the Angles never recovering their hold on Scotland. When Kenneth I rose to power in 843, he wanted to conquer the Picts, their armies having murdered his father in battle. The story goes that in 848, Kenneth invited the Pictish King Drust IX and the remaining Pictish nobles to Scone, under the pretense of peace negotiations. While the Pictish men were at dinner, the Gaels released the bolts from their benches causing them to fall into hidden spike filled pits below, wiping out an almost millennium old lineage. Kenneth McAlpine went on to claim the remaining Picts and northern Scottish lands for himself, and in the process became the first King of Scotland. Within a few generations, the Pictish language was forgotten, the Pictish Church taken over by the Scottish Colombian Church and most artifacts of Pictish culture erased.


Pictish Stone in the Museum of Scotland

A brief history of the ancient Pict Kingdoms of Scotland - The Scotsman

Yet another account of the aboriginal peoples of the British Isles being slaughtered by the goose-stepping German Anglish invaders.

Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

I disgaree with this statement:

Even the name “Britain” is derived from Brigihd, named for the people who worshipped her, the Brigantes.

"Britain", of course, comes from "Britannia", and the Brigantes were not Picts. They were the tribe which occupied a vast swathe of what is now Northern England.

You are assuming that there is some sort of division between the Picts and the other Britons. The division might be solely based on Roman reportage.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Yet another account of the aboriginal peoples of the British Isles being slaughtered by the goose-stepping German Anglish invaders.

That's a bit rich coming from somebody who has just twisted history so much he has described the Anglo-Saxons as being Nazis.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

That's a bit rich coming from somebody who has just twisted history so much he has described the Anglo-Saxons as being Nazis.

When did I do that, Blackadder?
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

You are assuming that there is some sort of division between the Picts and the other Britons. The division might be solely based on Roman reportage.

There were divisions between the Britons. The land was divided into a plethora of different tribes, which were often fighting each other.





 
Curious Cdn
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Those maps were all based on Roman accounts. What does your Genome map say? The Romans had an "agenda" and Tacitus was a propagandist, not an historian.