Saudis Spread Wahhabism And US Turns A Blind Eye


tay
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Every Friday, just yards from a statue of Bill Clinton with arm aloft in a cheery wave, hundreds of young bearded men make a show of kneeling to pray on the sidewalk outside an improvised mosque in a former furniture store.

The mosque is one of scores built here with Saudi government money and blamed for spreading Wahhabism — the conservative ideology dominant in Saudi Arabia — in the 17 years since an American-led intervention wrested tiny Kosovo from Serbian oppression.

Since then — much of that time under the watch of American officials — Saudi money and influence have transformed this once-tolerant Muslim society at the hem of Europe into a font of Islamic extremism and a pipeline for jihadists.

Kosovo now finds itself, like the rest of Europe, fending off the threat of radical Islam. Over the last two years, the police have identified 314 Kosovars — including two suicide bombers, 44 women and 28 children — who have gone abroad to join the Islamic State, the highest number per capita in Europe.

They were radicalized and recruited, Kosovo investigators say, by a corps of extremist clerics and secretive associations funded by Saudi Arabia and other conservative Arab gulf states using an obscure, labyrinthine network of donations from charities, private individuals and government ministries.

“They promoted political Islam,” said Fatos Makolli, the director of Kosovo’s counterterrorism police. “They spent a lot of money to promote it through different programs mainly with young, vulnerable people, and they brought in a lot of Wahhabi and Salafi literature. They brought these people closer to radical political Islam, which resulted in their radicalization.”

After two years of investigations, the police have charged 67 people, arrested 14 imams and shut down 19 Muslim organizations for acting against the Constitution, inciting hatred and recruiting for terrorism. The most recent sentences, which included a 10-year prison term, were handed down on Friday.

It is a stunning turnabout for a land of 1.8 million people that not long ago was among the most pro-American Muslim societies in the world. Americans were welcomed as liberators after leading months of NATO bombing in 1999 that spawned an independent Kosovo.

After the war, United Nations officials administered the territory and American forces helped keep the peace. The Saudis arrived, too, bringing millions of euros in aid to a poor and war-ravaged land.

But where the Americans saw a chance to create a new democracy, the Saudis saw a new land to spread Wahhabism.

There is.......

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/22/wo...T.nav=top-news
 
Angstrom
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Remember now folks. The Saudi's have so much money in bank, They likely are trying to find ways to spend it just cause they simply have no more place to store it


Think about that.
That's a good problem to have
 
Curious Cdn
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The Americans are obsessed with Iran but the Saudis are the true enemy of us all. We are natural allies with Iran.
 
Angstrom
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

The Americans are obsessed with Iran but the Saudis are the true enemy of us all. We are natural allies with Iran.

I agree, Saudi's are the new Axis.
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

The Americans are obsessed with Iran but the Saudis are the true enemy of us all. We are natural allies with Iran.

The Americans are the true enemy insturment, the Saudis have been pawns of the banking cartel since before WW2. Most of the world is now educated about the true colours of Uncle Sam, indeed two thirds of the extant nations on earth have been victims of American democracy, and so thier eventual permanent culmination is assured.
 
Angstrom
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

The Americans are the true enemy insturment, the Saudis have been pawns of the banking cartel since before WW2. Most of the world is now educated about the true colours of Uncle Sam, indeed two thirds of the extant nations on earth have been victims of American democracy, and so thier eventual permanent culmination is assured.

Depends where you live m8.

No one in N. America will benefit from Uncle Sam's destruction, only a lunatic would think their lives would improve.
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

Depends where you live m8.

No one in N. America will benefit from Uncle Sam's destruction, only a lunatic would think their lives would improve.

So you think your life will improve with maintenance of the satus quo then? You should be more carful when tossing the lunatic ball arround.
Three quarters of the world will hail the destruction of the USA as equivilant to the return of some christ like figure. You can only carpet bomb your way to success until you can't anymore and right now the USofA is in no position to engage in conventional warfare with it's percieved adversaries.It is well studied that the level of corruption in the US supply chain of armaments and munitions is and has been three to five times the actual value of the products delivered.
 
PoliticalNick
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Quote: Originally Posted by tay View Post

They were radicalized and recruited....

Exactly what the US does to fill the ranks of its military before sending youngsters off to foreign countries to kill and be killed.
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

Depends where you live m8.

No one in N. America will benefit from Uncle Sam's destruction, only a lunatic would think their lives would improve.

Could you explain why you feel getting the bully off the South Central and North American bus will not make the other passengers happy?
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick View Post

Exactly what the US does to fill the ranks of its military before sending youngsters off to foreign countries to kill and be killed.

Hardly. A military recruit is a volunteer and does not have to sign up. A soldier is not recruited based on religious leanings and whether some like to admit it or not, is not indoctrinated to deliberately target the innocents. Our soldiers don't cut off the heads of their captives and they don't put them in cages and burn them alive. To suggest so is ridiculous. In fact, deviation from the rules of engagement and the Geneva convention will lead to charges being laid against a soldier. In the case of Terrorists, the horror has been ramped up significantly. Black September hijacked planes and blew up things. The evolution of terrorism now sees the worst kind of murderous torture that would draw the likes of Ted Bundy, Dennis Rader, Dean Corrl and John Wayne Gacey. These people who saw off heads, while the victim is kicking and screaming or light someone ablaze are the deepest darkest kind of monsters.

Drawing a comparison between extremism and our military is also ridiculous and before we drag out the old collateral damage soapbox, it should be remembered that there is a distinct difference between deliberately targeting and missing the target. Often when someone misses their target and it is shown to be negligence, charges are forthcoming.

But then, if you think this is all sanctioned by the West, why bother to explain what is so obvious to others.
 
Ludlow
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

The Americans are obsessed with Iran but the Saudis are the true enemy of us all. We are natural allies with Iran.

if you go back to the times of King Cyrus I would agree.
 
Angstrom
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Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick View Post

Exactly what the US does to fill the ranks of its military before sending youngsters off to foreign countries to kill and be killed.

The argument is not if its right or wrong. The argument is they are doing it with the intentions to kill us and we will do the same to them.

From my relative position I have no problem doing it to them, but I have a big problem with them doing it to us.

There is no right or wrong. Right and wrong is reflective to yourself. Your looking at right and wrong from a universal force standpoint. Something like in Star Wars.

Right and wrong is not universal, it is based on individual relativity.

Political Islam can only be countered by violent opposition of political Islam.
 
PoliticalNick
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Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier View Post

Hardly. A military recruit is a volunteer and does not have to sign up. A soldier is not recruited based on religious leanings and whether some like to admit it or not, is not indoctrinated to deliberately target the innocents. Our soldiers don't cut off the heads of their captives and they don't put them in cages and burn them alive. To suggest so is ridiculous. In fact, deviation from the rules of engagement and the Geneva convention will lead to charges being laid against a soldier. In the case of Terrorists, the horror has been ramped up significantly. Black September hijacked planes and blew up things. The evolution of terrorism now sees the worst kind of murderous torture that would draw the likes of Ted Bundy, Dennis Rader, Dean Corrl and John Wayne Gacey. These people who saw off heads, while the victim is kicking and screaming or light someone ablaze are the deepest darkest kind of monsters.

Drawing a comparison between extremism and our military is also ridiculous and before we drag out the old collateral damage soapbox, it should be remembered that there is a distinct difference between deliberately targeting and missing the target. Often when someone misses their target and it is shown to be negligence, charges are forthcoming.

But then, if you think this is all sanctioned by the West, why bother to explain what is so obvious to others.

I know that from first hand experience basic training is just as much an indoctrination as any terrorist training camp, especially in certain branches like the USMC.

You can bring up "official regulations" all you want but the reality is much different. The west has both overtly and covertly sponsored all kinds of horrendous actions and engages in propaganda just as much if not more so than those they wish us to think of as enemies. Western soldiers have committed many atrocities not the least of which is following illegal orders into an illegal invasion of a foreign sovereign nation. If they had not been brainwashed into a state of patriotic fervor where they lose all ability to question the motives of those sending them to kill innocents and possibly be killed themselves we would as an entire planet be much better off.
 
Ludlow
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

The Americans are the true enemy insturment, the Saudis have been pawns of the banking cartel since before WW2. Most of the world is now educated about the true colours of Uncle Sam, indeed two thirds of the extant nations on earth have been victims of American democracy, and so thier eventual permanent culmination is assured.

yes DB we are the anti Christ evil black hearted conniving bastids every one of us.
 
PoliticalNick
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ludlow View Post

yes DB we are the anti Christ evil black hearted conniving bastids every one of us.

No, it's just the ruling elite that fit that description....the rest of you are simply the stupid f*ckers who let them get away with it because you're brainwashed into the belief you are right about everything, entitled to everything, and by virtue of being "the greatest nation on earth" destined to rule the planet. Other than that you all aren't that bad.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick View Post

I know that from first hand experience basic training is just as much an indoctrination as any terrorist training camp, especially in certain branches like the USMC.



Quote:

You can bring up "official regulations" all you want but the reality is much different. The west has both overtly and covertly sponsored all kinds of horrendous actions and engages in propaganda just as much if not more so than those they wish us to think of as enemies. Western soldiers have committed many atrocities not the least of which is following illegal orders into an illegal invasion of a foreign sovereign nation. If they had not been brainwashed into a state of patriotic fervor where they lose all ability to question the motives of those sending them to kill innocents and possibly be killed themselves we would as an entire planet be much better off.

Again, I repeat. But then, if you think this is all sanctioned by the West, why bother to explain what is so obvious to others.
 
gopher
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from the Times article:

“They came in the name of aid,” one moderate imam in Gjilan, Enver Rexhepi, said of the Arab charities. “But they came with a background of different intentions, and that’s where the Islamic religion started splitting here.”


Christian churches have virtually unlimited billions in their treasure troves and should have used those resources to convert the needy there and everywhere else. Had they done so the Wahhabi psychos would have left these people alone. Thus, while the article says the USA turns a blind eye, the reality is that the entire world and the wealthy elites did so.
 
PoliticalNick
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Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier View Post





Again, I repeat. But then, if you think this is all sanctioned by the West, why bother to explain what is so obvious to others.

Actually RCS I know it is sponsored and sanctioned by the western powers. You may not believe it to be true but I was in the right offices with the right security clearance to know for sure.
 

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