MH17 Turnabout: Ukraine's Guilt Now Proven


darkbeaver
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Eric ZUESSE | 31.12.2018 | SECURITY / WAR AND CONFLICT
MH17 Turnabout : Ukraineís Guilt Now Proven

Finally, a clear and convincing ó and unrefuted ó case can now be presented to the public, as to precisely whom the guilty party was, that downed the MH17 Malaysian airliner over Ukraine on 17 July 2014, and why it was done. The complete case, which will be fully documented here, displays unequivocally who needed the MH17 murders (of 298 persons) to be perpetrated. This mass-murder was done for one leaderís very pressing obsession. For him, it simply had to be done, and done at that precise time.
The full MH17 case will be presented here, to be judged by the public, because no court of law which possesses the power to bring this (or even any) case on the MH17 murders, is willing to do so, and because the evidence in this 17 July 2014 case has become overwhelming, and is unrefuted. This evidence is accepted by both sides. But it still remains effectively hidden from the publics in the United States and its allied countries. (The present news-report, which is the first ever to present this entire case, is submitted to all news-media in English-speaking countries, so that any of them that wishes to provide its audience access to this uncontested and conclusive evidence in the MH17 case can do so, by publishing this article. Any of them that wonít, donít want their audience to have access to the conclusive evidence in this case, because this article is being made available to all of them to publish, free of charge; so, there is no other reason not to publish it.)
The complete evidence will be described, and all of the conclusive evidence is linked-to, proving who perpetrated, and who demanded, the shoot-down on 17 July 2014 of the Malaysian airliner MH17.
This article will start by demonstrating the most important thing, and will demonstrate it by means of links to the most conclusive evidence of all. This is the evidence which absolutely proves that the official Netherlands-headed investigation into this matter is an intentional and utter fraud ó a fraud which has already been conclusively answered and exposed by the Russian Government. (Netherlands headed the investigation because 196 of the 298 murder-victims were Dutch.)
 
darkbeaver
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( It,s a long detailed condemnation of Ukranian mass murderers of innocent airline passangers) DB
 
Jinentonix
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Oh let me guess. The Russians claim they didn't do and have ginned up evidence proving so.
The plane was shot down by an SA-11 Gadfly SAM. The Russians and their separatist allies were the ONLY ones in the region with the ability and equipment capable of shooting down an airliner flying in commercial airspace. In fact at the time, the leader of the separatists took credit for shooting down what they thought was a Ukrainian An-26, which turned out to be MH17.
The plane was hit in the cockpit, not the engine, indicating a radar controlled missile. The SA-11 is radar controlled. The blast pattern on/in the cockpit is a damn good match for the SA-11 as well.
 
Twin_Moose
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The whole world was in on it poor Russia
 
petros
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It was the Jews kicked out of Anatevka.
 
MHz
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When the Natives are restless it is best to import professional help from South Africa.
 
petros
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Your shrink is from SA?
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

Oh let me guess. The Russians claim they didn't do and have ginned up evidence proving so.
The plane was shot down by an SA-11 Gadfly SAM. The Russians and their separatist allies were the ONLY ones in the region with the ability and equipment capable of shooting down an airliner flying in commercial airspace. In fact at the time, the leader of the separatists took credit for shooting down what they thought was a Ukrainian An-26, which turned out to be MH17.
The plane was hit in the cockpit, not the engine, indicating a radar controlled missile. The SA-11 is radar controlled. The blast pattern on/in the cockpit is a damn good match for the SA-11 as well.


You would guess rather than read the article?
 
darkbeaver
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The evidence is conclusive and irrefutable.
 
darkbeaver
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In fact, as you can see here, Netherlands’ Government had been the largest single contributor to Ukraine’s Hromadske TV, which was propagandizing to exterminate the residents in Ukraine’s former Donbass region, which breakaway region had voted over 90% for Ukraine’s Democratically elected President, whom Obama’s coup had just overthrown. This operation in Ukraine is an extension from the corrupt Nazi Prince Bernhard's having established in Netherlands in 1954 the secretive Bilderberg group to coordinate NATO’s efforts for the US and its allies to conquer ultimately the world. He got caught in 1976, for one of his skimming operations, a million-dollar kickback from Lockheed Corporation. Holland’s Deep State is anything but benign.


Euroscum all of them, inbred blood sucking lizards, they would eat your babies.
 
darkbeaver
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Twin_Moose
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Debate all of this after Russia gets out of Ukraine, and in the UN where it belongs
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Debate all of this after Russia gets out of Ukraine, and in the UN where it belongs


Russia isn,t in Ukraine, however they do have the majority of russian speaking people in that contested area. Even if Russia does nothing with or to the Ukraine it will eventually be ruined completely by it,s very poor choice of friends who would much rather spend Ukrainians than commit thier own citizens and resources to correct the percieved border difficultys. Uncle Sam is sure to destroy ukraine just to tease the bear.
 
Twin_Moose
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Yeah just like their not in Georgia and the others as well
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Yeah just like their not in Georgia and the others as well


So where,s the link to the Russia problem in Georgia? While I do place a real value on your opinions that value is somewhat less than the cost of cold coffee. That of course was a joke if you also have no sence of humour .
 
Twin_Moose
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Russia Keeping Georgia within Its Sphere of Influence

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Following the bloodless Rose Revolution in 2003, Georgia strongly pursued a pro-Western foreign policy; aimed at NATO and European integration, it introduced a series of democratic and economic reforms. This brought about mixed results, but strengthened state institutions. The country's Western orientation soon led to the worsening of relations with Russia, culminating in the brief Russo-Georgian War in August 2008 and Georgia's current territorial dispute with Russia.

Another interesting article DB

Putin's Stance on Ukraine Supported by Minority of Nations

Here is another question for food for thought

How is a small 3-4000 man force holding off Ukraine's 40+ thousand man force without Russian's military assistance?
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Here is another question for food for thought

How is a small 3-4000 man force holding off Ukraine's 40+ thousand man force without Russian's military assistance?

Can't have too much of that. Kiev knows it would lose the war in a week due mostly to 39+ thousand soldiers turning around an taking the safety off. Welcome to New Russia Comrades.
 
Twin_Moose
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And then?
 
MHz
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You do your normal retard act, no need to cover what happens there.
 
Twin_Moose
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Why not?
 
MHz
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It's not a topic I introduced so I don't have to 'bring it to a conclusion' which is one thing Dex accused me of doing. Not real sure why I feel it is time you knew what I was doing. Just about time to start some new ones so sharpen your pencils.
 
Twin_Moose
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So why don't you stay in the threads where you started the topic? Explain all you want why derail others conversation?
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

So why don't you stay in the threads where you started the topic? Explain all you want why derail others conversation?

Because he needs us to keep him on track. Just imagine how insane he'd be without the Internet.
 
Twin_Moose
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Russia quietly moves border hundreds of yards into occupied Georgia
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

So why don't you stay in the threads where you started the topic? Explain all you want why derail others conversation?

I spend most of my time dealing with trolls on any thread I have created, odd that you find a troll visiting another thread is bad yet when you or any member of the collective posts on a thread they have no interest in it is next to being a divine act. That is probably a trait of an insane person, should check for you.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Russia quietly moves border hundreds of yards into occupied Georgia

a little more every night.
 
MHz
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Probably a subduction zone, with Russia on top
 
Twin_Moose
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Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

I spend most of my time dealing with trolls on any thread I have created, odd that you find a troll visiting another thread is bad yet when you or any member of the collective posts on a thread they have no interest in it is next to being a divine act. That is probably a trait of an insane person, should check for you.

Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Probably a subduction zone, with Russia on top

What has this got to do with the topic at hand? Absolutely nothing to add so troll eh?
 
petros
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That's OCDs in their purest form.
 

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