Technological Advances Could kill 5 Million Jobs By 2020


Hoid
#31
If they eliminate 20 million jobs and create 40 million then it makes sense.
 
MHz
#32
How about 2M vacationers instead of 20M 'dead-beats' as anybody without a job is deemed to be even with a stagnant economy. Stop the immigration and how many Social workers would be out on the street?
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

If they eliminate 20 million jobs and create 40 million then it makes sense.

Sure, eliminate 20 million $25 per hour manufacturing jobs and replace them with 40 million part time sub-minimum wage gigs delivering for Alibaba while using their own cars and fuel.


If you think that I am joking, ...
 
Hoid
#34
Only 52% of fast food workers need government assistance.

https://www.eater.com/2015/4/13/8403...d-stamps-study

MAGA

Also I agree that the caliber of jobs on offer is getting lower and lower.
 
petros
#35
Pt timers.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Pt timers.

That's all that is being offered. Company's like that intentionally limit the hours that employees work so that they are not on the hook for any benefits. Fast food outlets, retailers would rather fill up their entire schedule with part-timers than to provide things like Health plans. It's the future of most of the work force. Part-timers payed as little as is legally allowed (could be peanuts if minimum wage legislations are struck down) and the employer has zero responsibility to their employees.
 
darkbeaver
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#37
Five million fewer customers. The ai trend will strangle capitalism, as we think we know it.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

Five million fewer customers. The ai trend will strangle capitalism, as we think we know it.

The future of Capitalism is Neofeudalism in which almost all of the wealth is held by a tiny but powerful elite and the rest of the population owns nothing, has nothing and are serfs living at the pleasure of the elite. The Middle Class is history and so is democracy.

You think that this is some sort of dystopian fiction? In fact, it is the default form of governance for our species. We are not collaborative by nature. Almost every human government, everywhere in time and place has been a pyramidal Thugocracy.
 
MHz
#39
Think of it this way, you have no job but you have an income and an university education and a long list of available hobbies and vacations include traveling the globe if that is what you want. Are you starting to see the picture or do you only see what happens to people here who are already out of a job?
 
JLM
#40
I've been hearing that argument for 30 years, but it doesn't seem to be holding water. The more scientific we get the more fraudsters come out of the woodwork, necessitating more law enforcement, guards, wardens, parole officers, psychiatrists, probation officers, etc. etc. etc. Probably a lot of good jobs being traded off for useless jobs!
 
spilledthebeer
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

I've been hearing that argument for 30 years, but it doesn't seem to be holding water. The more scientific we get the more fraudsters come out of the woodwork, necessitating more law enforcement, guards, wardens, parole officers, psychiatrists, probation officers, etc. etc. etc. Probably a lot of good jobs being traded off for useless jobs!


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And isnt that just the MOST PATHETIC LIE-beral nonsense- that unemployed people will now have time for their hobbies??????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????/

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

Apparently LIE-berals are so utterly UNFAMILIAR with life without money they cannot conceive of what it might be like!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Idiot LIE-berals simply assume poverty stricken victims of their insane policies will have fun in the sun somehow!!!!!!!!

The socialist/LIE-beral idiots at the Toronto Disaster Relief poverty fighting committee- that is doing such a fine job of MAKING MORE POVERTY with their muddled LIE-beral policies- have said one true thing!!!!

Cathy Crowe and her gang have said that if you do not have mental health issues now- then just spend a year on the street in poverty and YOU WILL DEVELOP MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES!!!!!

I believe this to be true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Here is an article illustrating yet again that LIE-beral govt could not run a hamburger stand at a profit-not even if you give them the beef for free! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Toronto Community Housing Corporation plagued by ballooning arrears

By Sue-Ann Levy, Toronto Sun. First posted: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 08:00 PM EDT | Updated: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 08:59 PM EDT

A newly released report from Toronto Community Housing Corporation (TCHC) proves the beleaguered housing authority has both a spending and a revenue problem - largely of their own making.

The 12-page “arrears management” report on the agenda of next week’s board meeting shows the amount of rent and parking owed to the corporation (and uncollected) has doubled in five years from $6.9 million in 2012 to $12.8 million in 2016.

The number of units with arrears outstanding has increased nearly 50% during that same time period from 6,719 to 10,032.

This inability to get the mounting arrears under control occurred even as TCHC officials put new arrears collection measures into place in August of 2014, hired 26 new clerks to deal with the improved process in early 2015 and initiated extensive training of staff on the process from March to May, 2015, according to the report.

The report also shows that the point at which legal means are able to curtail the arrears - that is notices of eviction and Landlord and Tenant Board action - has climbed from $5 million outstanding at the end of 2013 to $11 million outstanding in early 2017.

Based on this trend, the report predicts the arrears are slated to balloon to $14.4-million by year’s end. That’s $14.4-million the forever cash-strapped housing authority could use to improve the quality of life for tenants.

(Its also 14.4 million they will not be able to hand out as bonuses for already overpaid Hogs at TCHC! They will just whine till the city gives them more!)

In fairness, as TCHC spokesperson Brayden Akers points out, the housing authority has done a better job of negotiating repayment agreements with vulnerable tenants since 2013.

(Oh that is SWELL- dead beat drug dealers and their addicts and the hookers who entertain them all are now `negotiating` with their landlords to decide what amount of rent they FEEL LIKE paying!)

As a result, the number of arrears subject to some form of repayment agreement has jumped from 18% to 41% between 2012 and 2016.

“By utilizing reasonable repayment agreements as a resolution tactic, TCHC is able to preserve tenancies among a growing number of vulnerable tenants,” Akers said.

However, if you look closely at the growth in absolute numbers, the difference between what is owed and what is subject to a repayment agreement in 2016- $7,603,685 is more than what was owed entirely in 2012 -$6,913,228.

(The `negotiating` tactic is NOT WORKING! The more flexible Housing authorities get about being paid- the more they are FORCED to be flexible by tenants who are growing ever more skilled at fleecing the system!)

(Things are not improved by authorities who seem to think it is a sacred duty to house people no matter what sort of mess they make-the only tool govt has for controlling rotten tenants is swift and final eviction but govt will not use that tool for fear of causing hardship amongst those who are ripping us off!)

And Akers did acknowledge that the repayment agreements represent debt the corporation must still carry during the life of each respective agreement.

(So once the tenant moves out and goes some place else-maybe to another unit within another Toronto Housing building-the debt is just forgotten? And once debt is forgotten then govt does not have to report on its losses and poor management to any higher authority? Is MTHC becoming a classic money pit?)

While the report proposes changes that should have been used already to identify outstanding arrears faster, the glaring issue - besides negligence - becomes apparent on the final page of the report.

The arrears management system is not automated! Akers confirmed that TCHC officials are still tracking outstanding tenant debts with a “combination of spreadsheets and paper forms.”

(Should we ask if the use of paper forms makes it EASIER to hide arrears and other such screw ups and this is WHY govt prefers paper over automation? Or is the notorious computer scam that tarnished City Hall a few years back still haunting city authorities to the point they wont try to automate anything?)

In fact, the report notes that “customer service and records management is supported by paper records- which are often stale”.

(Would the pile of `stale` old files being pretty much ignored, reflect the reality of how little chance there is of collecting on those debts? Just how casual has rent collection become in TCHC?))

Little wonder, as the Sun revealed in mid-2015, tenant Galal Donia lived in Toronto housing from 1994 until finally evicted at the end of 2015 without paying more than $65,000 in rent arrears.

(IN fairness, TCHC buildings are pig pens but which came first- the tenant PIGS like Donia or the Pens such as he live in- often nearly rent free?)

A report by commissioner of housing equity Cynthia Summers - obtained by the Sun during that time - attributed the situation partly to a wily tenant who knew how to play the system and the rest to ineptitude by TCHC officials who allowed the situation to get out of hand.

(And should we expect the situation to get worse now that Toronto has declared itself a “Sanctuary City”? Is TCHC rapidly filling up with smart ass clowns who know how to avoid paying and who city officials wont evict and who federal LIE-berals will not deport under any circumstances? How out of control is TCHC becoming? And why should we put another penny into this slow moving long running train wreck?)

(Mayor Jackass John Tory has said that unless somebody gives him money to make major repairs very soon, then TCHC buildings will become so rotten they will be condemned and forced to close up and cease renting units-I have to say this sounds like a VIABLE PLAN for getting TCHC under fiscal control! Let the money pit fill in with rubble from its own collapsing buildings rather than going with the current plan to simply fill the fiscal hole with tax dollars!)
 
Walter
#42
No one reads long posts.
 
MHz
+1 / -1
#43
That's because their IQ is under 100. Unless you have multiple personalities the term should be 'I' unless you speak for the whole board. A concept probably more true that false considering all your black heart comments are accepted more than they are rejected by the 'members'. Time to dig into that putrefying brain of yours Walnut to see if you are a lone nut of simply carrying out the will of your Jewish masters. Enjoy the ride while you can.

Your short posts probably take you an hour to compose as you typical response is to say nothing and hit the red button.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoAWzdAVuTo


Edit to add:
lol, thanks for the confirmation there Walnut.
Last edited by MHz; Aug 28th, 2018 at 10:12 AM..
 
spilledthebeer
#44
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

That's because their IQ is under 100. Unless you have multiple personalities the term should be 'I' unless you speak for the whole board. A concept probably more true that false considering all your black heart comments are accepted more than they are rejected by the 'members'. Time to dig into that putrefying brain of yours Walnut to see if you are a lone nut of simply carrying out the will of your Jewish masters. Enjoy the ride while you can.

Your short posts probably take you an hour to compose as you typical response is to say nothing and hit the red button.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoAWzdAVuTo


Edit to add:
lol, thanks for the confirmation there Walnut.


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How sad for LIE-berals- their position on ANYTHING is utterly absurd!!!!

They keep telling us technology will eliminate a LOT of jobs in the next couple of decades- and then they turn

around and make HUGE pension promises to civil service union Hogs- as if the gravy will just keep rolling in

simply because LIE-berals BELIEVE they are entitled to have it that way!!!!!!!!!!!!


Oh my! Hogs be squealing NOW! Silly LIE-berals whining in circles after suddenly realizing how many Cdns will have their lives destroyed if LIE-berals simply shut off the supply of fossil fuel to ordinary Cdns- AND THEN RESERVE ALL THAT FOSSIL FUEL SO ONLY HOGS CAN USE IT!

Cdns have come to realize THAT IS THE LIE-BERAL PLAN! ONLY HOGS will have access to energy in the LIE-beral future- because it is too valuable to be wasted on peasants- that is the LIE-beral version of fairness!

The carbon crap and trade tax is designed to do TWO THINGS!

First- it prices fossil fuel beyond the reach of ordinary people.

Second- it supplies a huge new gravy stream to LIE-berals so they can buy the Hog votes they need to stay in power forever!

LIE-berals can whine about oil price gouging if they want- but their majo0r beef with oil companies is that LIE-berals want EXCLUSIVE use of oil gravy- NO SHARING!

LIE-berals can whine about events in Middle East and the politics of the region and the effect on oil prices but it is nothing but a DISTRACTION! Cdn govt has NO influence over the very select club of oil companies that produce ALL the oil! NO MAJOR OIL COMPANY even has its central office in a Cdn jurisdiction!

LIE-berals can whine if they want about what went wrong at LIE-beral created Petro Canada- and LIE-berals follow the usual path when they whine- they claim its all a one time mistake- merely an accident- the govt hired the wrong people- nobody is perfect so why blame LIE-berals for a policy THEY CLAIM was a noble failure?

LIE-berals are AMAZING CHERRY PICKERS! They can cherry pick through a pile of facts faster then a hungry Mexican migrant can gather free fruit!

For examples of LIE-beral FAILURE to apply logic or common sense to ANY of their business projects, we only have to mention their mouldy green electricity mess! The one that doubled costs- without cleaning the air!

Or we could discuss their dandy auto insurance mess- in which they "helped" us to save by CLAIMING that insurance rates did not rise as fast as they normally would have- while at the same time benefits for accident victims WERE CUT IN HALF!

This IS the price of LIE-beral aid- coupled with cherry picking facts- we pay more and get less every time!

LIE-beral business sense is so under developed they could not run a chip truck at a profit- not even if you gave them the potatoes for FREE! And Petro Canada NEVER made a profit even though they were given FREE access to oil fields that private companies had to pay for!

WE Cdns must focus on OUR govt- and its poisoned LIE-beral values that are bankrupting Canada!

Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

That's because their IQ is under 100. Unless you have multiple personalities the term should be 'I' unless you speak for the whole board. A concept probably more true that false considering all your black heart comments are accepted more than they are rejected by the 'members'. Time to dig into that putrefying brain of yours Walnut to see if you are a lone nut of simply carrying out the will of your Jewish masters. Enjoy the ride while you can.

Your short posts probably take you an hour to compose as you typical response is to say nothing and hit the red button.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoAWzdAVuTo


Edit to add:
lol, thanks for the confirmation there Walnut.

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MHz THINKS Walter serves Jewish Masters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If Jews were really so powerful then why dont they send a couple of Shtarkers around to give Walter and MHz some lumps for being such bigots?

It is just ANOTHER LIE-beral ENTITLEMENT that they NEVER have to be logical about ANYTHING!!!!!!!!

And just how stupid must you be to SUE YOURSELF? Read on:

Just how stupid are LIE-berals and their NDP cousins? Lorry Goldstein gives us a clue-and its too bad Alberta premier Rachel Notley is still missing HER clues! I have always said the NDP members are simply people who lack the low guile and cunning needed to be `proper` LIE-berals and this story proves me right! Here is the Goldstein column along with some comments of my own in brackets):

Alberta sues itself over carbon pricing. By Lorrie Goldstein, Toronto Sun. First posted: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 06:30 PM EDT | Updated: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 06:35 PM EDT

How are Canadian governments going to fix the climate if they can’t even run their carbon pricing policies competently?

The latest fiasco comes from Alberta, where Premier Rachel Notley’s NDP government has asked the courts to strike down an Alberta government regulation it says could cost the public $2 billion. The problem is, the NDP’s own actions led to this fiasco.

Alberta energy companies are bailing out of money-losing contracts for buying coal-fired electricity called power purchase agreements (PPA), after the NDP government increased the carbon levy on coal in January, 2016.

The companies are allowed to get out of the contracts -- handing the financial losses to the public -- if government actions make them “more unprofitable”, which is what the carbon levy did.

Deputy Premier Sarah Hoffman said the NDP government wasn’t aware of this regulation when it introduced its carbon levy and accused the previous Progressive Conservative government of secretly putting it into place 16 years ago.

(I say that most politicians lack the grey matter to recall what they had for breakfast yesterday morning-or where they had it either-so expecting them to remember something that occurred decades ago is not possible. But its indicative of NDP idiocy that instead of repealing THEIR new and obviously ill conceived law-they simply want the original to be killed off! Thus DEMANDING that UN-ELECTED CDN judges be used to ERASE legal contracts signed in good faith years or even decades ago! What manner of precedent does this send when govt destroys legal contracts for the sake of flawed ideology?)

She called it the “Enron” clause, arguing it was agreed to by the then PC government at the request of U.S. energy giant Enron, which later collapsed because of massive fraud.

One of the companies using the provincial regulation to get out of its PPA is Enmax, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the city of Calgary, where the NDP government’s lawsuit has infuriated Mayor Naheed Nenshi.

Nenshi describes it as “outrageous” adding, “we have the spectacle of the provincial government suing itself because apparently it didn’t know its own policies that have been in place for 15, 16, years and that Enmax has been abiding by.”

(From DIRECT OBSERVATION I can say that when the money runs out, people go CRAZY-and Alberta is now broke-AND NUTS!)

Alberta Interim PC Leader Ric McIver accused the NDP of gross incompetence. He said the regulation the NDP is pleading ignorance of “has been available publicly through the Queen’s Printer for 15 or 16 years. So if the government didn’t know what the regulations were and what the contracts were before they changed them, they are completely negligent and incompetent.”

Indeed, even if the regulation wasn’t approved by the normal process 16 years ago, how could Notley’s government, elected in May 2015, have missed it when doing its due diligence research on the impacts of its carbon levy? Did it not ask the Alberta civil service for all relevant provincial regulations that could impact the carbon levy?

(What it comes down to is that Cdn law is becoming so complex that its easy to miss key pieces-and this OUGHT TO BE FOOD FOR THOUGHT-to the clown college of politicians who think they can ram through Carbon crap and trade laws WITHOUT BADLY messing up our economy! The pieces of the puzzle are many-and poorly marked- but LIE-berals and their NDP pals play on, convinced their POSE of saintly good will and sweet ideology will protect them from legal and fiscal stupidity! AS well as hiding their GROSS GREED for more gravy to BUY HOG votes with-and this is the driving force behind all their Carbon CRAP action!)

Anything’s possible in a lawsuit, of course, but for the province to ask the courts to retroactively strike down a provincial regulation governing legal contracts signed 16 years ago sounds like a hard case to win.

It also sounds as if Notley’s government is trying to divert attention from a $2 billion mistake on its part that may have to be paid for by all Albertans.

Then again, so much of what the provinces are doing on carbon pricing makes no sense.

Ontario is giving away free carbon credits -- essentially free public money -- to major industrial emitters for at least the first four years of its looming cap-and-trade program, one of the main factors that undermined cap-and-trade in Europe, starting 11 years ago.

(But of course small Ontari-owe businesses who are not so LIE-beral friendly still MUST BUY carbon credits!)

Neither the federal government nor any province -- not even BC which comes closest -- is introducing 100% revenue neutral carbon pricing programs, the most effective way of lowering emissions, as opposed to merely grabbing more money from the public.

(LIE-beral carbon crap and trade is turning our electrical system into a GIANT LIE-beral slush fund to satisfy their greed!)

Indeed, when Notley introduced her carbon tax, taking effect in 2017, it was clear from her statements she didn’t understand what “revenue neutral” means.

(Its no wonder Notley and her ilk draw a blank when the phrase `revenue neutral` is used in their presence-ALL the parties of the Cdn left SCORN revenue neutral fiscal options as employing revenue neutral policy is the best way to throw Lefties back into the opposition party obscurity they have TEMPORARILY been lifted out of! Only those loonie leftists with the resources to fuel the entitlements of civil service Hogs and their GROSS gravy train will have any hope of retaining the support of the Hogs!)

(The UGLY truth is that loonie leftists are going to RUIN us all with this carbon crap and trade garbage unless we call a HALT to it! NOW!)
 
LisaDe
+1
#45
https://www.news.com.au/finance/work...8775675a5498dd
 
Curious Cdn
+1
#46
You'd be surprised at how many University grads are enlisted men/women in the Armed Forces. It's a good job with a good pendion and in return, Canada gets to recruit from a "higher" demgraphic and therefore have a "smarter" military.
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

MHz THINKS Walter serves Jewish Masters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Once i get 10 reds in a few minutes from a single poster without any post that would justify the rating if my post was in support of the UN Humans Rights that we claim we follow. My posts tend to have links to some references while his take the form that his opinion overrules 'my facts' and that is the end of the discussion, let alone for the topics that should never be discissed. Dead Muslim babies is fine but don't mention Banker as being anything but saints when their actions are more in line with a plague.
One post suggessted I proof-read before posting as I put 'that' instead of 'than'. Rather tham me doing any changes he just refrain from reading my posts if that was enough to have him throw his hands up in the air in frustration at my continued attemps to wreck his day.
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

If Jews were really so powerful then why dont they send a couple of Shtarkers around to give Walter and MHz some lumps for being such bigots?

'Keela' would have them going home with less fingers than they came to work with that day. Time will erase anything I'm saying. It also show Jews aren't real particular of the quality of the followers that defend their honor at every turn, even when the path is straight. Operations that need more than a week needs a Fed # to call.
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

It is just ANOTHER LIE-beral ENTITLEMENT that they NEVER have to be logical about
ANYTHING!!!!!!!!

If they show they can act with logic in one case they should be able to do the same in many cases if not all.
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

And just how stupid must you be to SUE YOURSELF? Read on:

The example I would use is a Treaty case that finished after being in the Courts for 20 years. Nothing changed and it cost the Taxpayers $200M that went to the City of London as that is where the BAR is. Lawyers swear an oath to them rather than to their clients. (fish) Admiralty Law is a lot differnt than Roman, Law Coroptate vs Common. Jordan Maxwell covers that topic as well as Bill Stills.
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

Just how stupid are LIE-berals and their NDP cousins? Lorry Goldstein gives us a clue-and its too bad Alberta premier Rachel Notley is still missing HER clues! I have always said the NDP members are simply people who lack the low guile and cunning needed to be `proper` LIE-berals and this story proves me right! Here is the Goldstein column along with some comments of my own in brackets):

I'm not following that story.
Our history since Social Credit had the reigns for 20 years straight follows a pettern that is not set at the center of elected people. If they look out for the interests of industry that is who should be paying them. The little guys make too much money so inventive ways are created to rob them almost blind.
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

Alberta sues itself over carbon pricing. By Lorrie Goldstein, Toronto Sun. First posted: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 06:30 PM EDT | Updated: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 06:35 PM EDT

As pointed out it makes money for the BAR and them alone. Treaty issues shouldn't have the defendents also serving as the Judges. Tell me you understand why there is a 'conflict'?
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

How are Canadian governments going to fix the climate if they can’t even run their carbon pricing policies competently?

Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

The latest fiasco comes from Alberta, where Premier Rachel Notley’s NDP government has asked the courts to strike down an Alberta government regulation it says could cost the public $2 billion. The problem is, the NDP’s own actions led to this fiasco.

Follow the career og 'King Ralph' to see what can and cannot be done out here, then get back to this point. Manning going to ottawa is very similar, enters as a so called 'rebel' and he (they) are one of the 'good old boys' in less than 1 term. No use standing out in the rain to vote since about that time, from a PC, now that might be a different story altogether.
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

Alberta energy companies are bailing out of money-losing contracts for buying coal-fired electricity called power purchase agreements (PPA), after the NDP government increased the carbon levy on coal in January, 2016.

Strike out the 'Alberta' part as it is a logo rather than that is who the owners are.
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

The companies are allowed to get out of the contracts -- handing the financial losses to the public -- if government actions make them “more unprofitable”, which is what the carbon levy did.

That tends to happen when ypou are the ones that write the contracts, sorry Treaties with know loopholes and as much fine print as allowed.
Welcome to Canadian Justice, BAR style.
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

Deputy Premier Sarah Hoffman said the NDP government wasn’t aware of this regulation when it introduced its carbon levy and accused the previous Progressive Conservative government of secretly putting it into place 16 years ago.

Really, 16 years of being 'available' but she couldn't find it even thought that is her profession means she should be fired, if it was in the real world she probably would never have risen to that level in the first place
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

(I say that most politicians lack the grey matter to recall what they had for breakfast yesterday morning-or where they had it either-so expecting them to remember something that occurred decades ago is not possible. But its indicative of NDP idiocy that instead of repealing THEIR new and obviously ill conceived law-they simply want the original to be killed off! Thus DEMANDING that UN-ELECTED CDN judges be used to ERASE legal contracts signed in good faith years or even decades ago! What manner of precedent does this send when govt destroys legal contracts for the sake of flawed ideology?)

Good reason for the ones paying them a 'salary' to have them chipped so they can be follwed by any member of the public to keep an eye on what they say in a day or whatever. Referendum votes via digital means would pretty much end all influence peddling.
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

She called it the “Enron” clause, arguing it was agreed to by the then PC government at the request of U.S. energy giant Enron, which later collapsed because of massive fraud.

Pollution is an option, more like a campaign promise than being part of reality. The clean-up costs come from profits earmarked of the shateholders so which way do you think it goes. Texaco in the Amazon was a pattern rather than an exception, Ft Mac is the modern day version. Write a lot of needless shit and then follow none of it, at great expense.
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

One of the companies using the provincial regulation to get out of its PPA is Enmax, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the city of Calgary, where the NDP government’s lawsuit has infuriated Mayor Naheed Nenshi.

Are you saying all Canadian cities can govern themselves? The are part of an enery grid that is one entity no matter how many companies are listed. Admin fees keep rising even though the technology should be making it cheaper. Why do you think that is?
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

Nenshi describes it as “outrageous” adding, “we have the spectacle of the provincial government suing itself because apparently it didn’t know its own policies that have been in place for 15, 16, years and that Enmax has been abiding by.”

Covered already
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

(From DIRECT OBSERVATION I can say that when the money runs out, people go CRAZY-and Alberta is now broke-AND NUTS!)

She joins a long list and if Alberta is hemoriging money she doesn't have the rest of the country is doing the same only at a faster rate.
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

Alberta Interim PC Leader Ric McIver accused the NDP of gross incompetence. He said the regulation the NDP is pleading ignorance of “has been available publicly through the Queen’s Printer for 15 or 16 years. So if the government didn’t know what the regulations were and what the contracts were before they changed them, they are completely negligent and incompetent.”

Ottawa can;t find the results of the 1867 Referendum vote either, I dount it ever took place as it would have rejected the Soverign Provinces would rather have stayed that way. The fake spat between Ontario and Quebec has cost the other Provinces how much since the fake war ended in a fake victory that saw the winner take no spoils. Welcome to Canada, land of the fuked.
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

Indeed, even if the regulation wasn’t approved by the normal process 16 years ago, how could Notley’s government, elected in May 2015, have missed it when doing its due diligence research on the impacts of its carbon levy? Did it not ask the Alberta civil service for all relevant provincial regulations that could impact the carbon levy?

We also have pregnant hookers, just means neiher is very good at their appointed career.
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

(What it comes down to is that Cdn law is becoming so complex that its easy to miss key pieces-and this OUGHT TO BE FOOD FOR THOUGHT-to the clown college of politicians who think they can ram through Carbon crap and trade laws WITHOUT BADLY messing up our economy! The pieces of the puzzle are many-and poorly marked- but LIE-berals and their NDP pals play on, convinced their POSE of saintly good will and sweet ideology will protect them from legal and fiscal stupidity! AS well as hiding their GROSS GREED for more gravy to BUY HOG votes with-and this is the driving force behind all their Carbon CRAP action!)

Admiralty Law rules to keep the courts running at full steam as that is income for the City of London and it collects from all but a handful of nations that opted out. Yes you can do that.
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

Anything’s possible in a lawsuit, of course, but for the province to ask the courts to retroactively strike down a provincial regulation governing legal contracts signed 16 years ago sounds like a hard case to win.

Ther are no 'hard cases; there are as many delays as possible to make the case as expensive as possible. In domistic cases the taxpayer ends up paying all of the costs one way or another.
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It also sounds as if Notley’s government is trying to divert attention from a $2 billion mistake on its part that may have to be paid for by all Albertans.

Petty cash at the global level and everything has interest attached and that goes directly to the banks before anybody gets a nickle.
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Then again, so much of what the provinces are doing on carbon pricing makes no sense.

They did not write the policies, they implement them like they did though. Income is bigger than the payout, the new 'lotto'.
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Ontario is giving away free carbon credits -- essentially free public money -- to major industrial emitters for at least the first four years of its looming cap-and-trade program, one of the main factors that undermined cap-and-trade in Europe, starting 11 years ago.

If we show we can;t solve the problem perhaps turn it over to the UN and have then use birth certificates to judge what a person needs given his location on the globe and give them a debit card that should run out a week after they die of old age. Revenue Canada can be a windowless room underground in Brussles.
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(But of course small Ontari-owe businesses who are not so LIE-beral friendly still MUST BUY carbon credits!)

You want a violin or what?
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Neither the federal government nor any province -- not even BC which comes closest -- is introducing 100% revenue neutral carbon pricing programs, the most effective way of lowering emissions, as opposed to merely grabbing more money from the public.

It is a global policy, all countries are included. If Canada was in charge we would have a caebon credit just for heating costs and the tropics wuold have the same as the need AC rather than heat. Every carbom emitter could emit ozone for little extra cost and after a few hours it is O2 City centers could eliminate heavy gasses by making that one small move with almost no other changes. A blue spark will produce ozone.
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(LIE-beral carbon crap and trade is turning our electrical system into a GIANT LIE-beral slush fund to satisfy their greed!)

Think 'Arrow', our ability to come up with 'innovative products' was chopped, literally.
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Indeed, when Notley introduced her carbon tax, taking effect in 2017, it was clear from her statements she didn’t understand what “revenue neutral” means.

That is why she is supposed to have smart friends around her.
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(Its no wonder Notley and her ilk draw a blank when the phrase `revenue neutral` is used in their presence-ALL the parties of the Cdn left SCORN revenue neutral fiscal options as employing revenue neutral policy is the best way to throw Lefties back into the opposition party obscurity they have TEMPORARILY been lifted out of! Only those loonie leftists with the resources to fuel the entitlements of civil service Hogs and their GROSS gravy train will have any hope of retaining the support of the Hogs!)

I doubt it is a topic that can be brought up and still have it pass the 'smell test'. ther are a lot of them out there.
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(The UGLY truth is that loonie leftists are going to RUIN us all with this carbon crap and trade garbage unless we call a HALT to it! NOW!)

In this place it is the Patients who lock the doors to keep the looney staff at bay.

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You'd be surprised at how many University grads are enlisted men/women in the Armed Forces. It's a good job with a good pendion and in return, Canada gets to recruit from a "higher" demgraphic and therefore have a "smarter" military.

Why do we need a standing army?
 
taxslave
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#48
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

If they eliminate 20 million jobs and create 40 million then it makes sense.

Especially if the 20 military eliminated are government jobs.

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That's all that is being offered. Company's like that intentionally limit the hours that employees work so that they are not on the hook for any benefits. Fast food outlets, retailers would rather fill up their entire schedule with part-timers than to provide things like Health plans. It's the future of most of the work force. Part-timers payed as little as is legally allowed (could be peanuts if minimum wage legislations are struck down) and the employer has zero responsibility to their employees.

That only works when there is an over supply of potential workers. When we smarten up and quit exporting our manufacturing jobs the fat food sector will have to change or fold.
Already there is a shortage of waitresses around here because the cost of living is too high for waht they pay and now our government is hireing everyone with a degree in social work, which is the only other job skill of most restaurant staff.

Why do we need a standing army?
We don't have enough chairs for all of them to sit at once.
 
JLM
#49
How many jobs do we have already that are unnecessary? I'd bet with a little planning, pretty well every organization could be reduced by 10%.
 
MHz
#50
"They" would insist it come from the bottom and the top gets a raise with the money that is saved.
 
JLM
#51
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

"They" would insist it come from the bottom and the top gets a raise with the money that is saved.




Where would such companies be if everyone boycotted companies that did that? Maybe it's time consumers organize!
 
Danbones
#52
Is being all 'bottom of the pile" considered organized?
 
Gilgamesh
#53
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Two hundred years ago we had Ned Ludd and his followers take care of such matters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite

Except that the Luddites solved SFA.
 
MHz
#54
Today we have prisoners.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBn5aIfZElE
 
darkbeaver
#55
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

How about 2M vacationers instead of 20M 'dead-beats' as anybody without a job is deemed to be even with a stagnant economy. Stop the immigration and how many Social workers would be out on the street?




The economy? Every critter got one. You eat or you die. It,s not at all possible to live without that
Quote:

job

Work will set you free.
 
Liberalman
#56
The sex trade is interested in the sex bots that will put a lot of hookers out of work, Take that #metoo movement
 
Curious Cdn
#57
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

How many jobs do we have already that are unnecessary? I'd bet with a little planning, pretty well every organization could be reduced by 10%.

... all of those extra Provincial highways guys leaning on their shovels ...
 
spilledthebeer
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#58
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

what they haven't taken into consideration is the loss of Baby Boomers in the work force. There will be a MAJOR shortage of workers as more and more BB's retire.

IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When baby Boomers retire- they will simply NOT be replaced!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Depending on what work Boomers do- their work will either be done by robots or the work will be dumped onto the shoulders of youngwr workers who will be expected to work FASTER to make up the difference!!!!!!!!!!


Anybody who does not agree should go read news reports from 25 years ago when Toronto water treatment plants were automated and civil service union Hogs KEPT their old jobs- sitting all day watching automated machinery do the work for them!!!!!!

And of course the redundant workers KEPT their grand places on the gravy train- but that is just JOBS FOR LIFE for Hogs!!!!!

Those Boomers got paid to hang around till they FELT LIKE LEAVING!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Danbones
#59
Hopefully they din't pee in the water too often...
 
MHz
#60
Anybody mention if we build the 'bots' that replace human workers or do they have a 'made in China' sticker? If we lose that many and China is leading the way they have a lot more people involved. If they give them a lower middle income style of life that includes a family tour of the rest of the planet as a tourist rather than as a soldier do we follow suit or go the other way because it is promoted by 'China'.

We can get in on the bottom floor by doing the raw castings with steel that still rings when hit. Let them do the final machining as it is their blueprints. This stops them from having to create a temp industry as the casting will be in use for 500 years and they can build the accessories over that time.
We have some castings of our own to make that will be used 'in-house' if we want to take the yoke off all the people rather than just the 'overlords' being 'tourists'.

Not to worry, the 'Arrow incident' also took out balls so we are in the 'watch them and do the same, except Iceland, never ever do that.' Not our fault if all the new fabric is ballistic in strength and durability, making it a suitable wrap for freeway support columns and older building in quake zones and long span bridges, etc. Wrapping bots would outperform humans once the bales were on-site.

Should AB/BC start clearing places for people from the east who will miss power and heat once a single ice-storm comes ripping through on its way to N Dakota?