Police admit going undercover at Montebello protest


CBC News
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Quebec provincial police admitted Thursday that three of their officers disguised themselves as demonstrators during the protest at the North American leaders summit in Montebello, Que.
However, the police force denied allegations its undercover officers were there on Monday to provoke the crowd and instigate violence.
Police said the three undercover officers were only at the protest to locate and identify non-peaceful protesters in order to prevent any incidents.
Police came under fire Tuesday, when a video surfaced on YouTube that appeared to show three plainclothes police officers at the protest with bandanas across their faces. One of the men was carrying a rock.
The Quebec provincial police will not comment any further on the affair, a spokeswoman in Montreal said. Quebec Justice Minister Jacques Dupuis was made aware of the news, but a spokesman from his office said he will not comment on the matter either.
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What are your views on the police statement that officers acted "within their mandate to keep order and security"?


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YoungJoonKim
#2
I see oppression.
That's my view
 
coldstream
#3
It's not the first time the QPP, or OPP or the RCMP for that matter have made fools of themselves by inciting violence through intent or incompetence. The Oka, Ipperwash situations or the APEC conference in Vancouver come to mind. It also usually seems to involve political intrigue with the Premiers' or Prime Minister's office. I would suspect the PMO was behind this in some way. It was such a Keystone Cop kind of caper, though.. it has the hallmarks of a Harper operation.
Last edited by coldstream; Aug 25th, 2007 at 01:17 PM..Reason: APEC for ASEAN
 
Niflmir
#4
The rock is hard to explain. Not sure how a rock helps me identify a person. Unless its that fantastic magical rock that that crazy guy was ranting about. Anyone remember the "crazy alien rock where did it come from" guy?

Anyways, its a real shame that they did that. When you are the police force, you need the public to have faith in you, and that doesn't help one bit.
 
hermanntrude
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by Niflmir View Post

Anyone remember the "crazy alien rock where did it come from" guy?

That was fantastic. What a berk. LOOK! it melts glass! I took a blurry photo including a rock and some wobbly glass!
 
Niflmir
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by hermanntrude View Post

That was fantastic. What a berk. LOOK! it melts glass! I took a blurry photo including a rock and some wobbly glass!

There was something seriously wrong with that person.
 
Cobalt_Kid
#7
The Supreme Court has ruled that Canadians have the right to peacefully demonstrate. If the police are acting to incite protestors to violence then they are acting outside their mandate are violating the rights of the people they are supposed to serve.

This smells of manipulation for political purposes, the same as the APEC misadventure. The arrogance that took over inside the PMO under Chretien has reappeared under Harper. There's a reason he's gone so far to prevernt public srutiny of his office and it's not for the benefit of Canadians.

My guess is this is just the tip of the iceberg, stay tuned viewers.
 
Niflmir
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by Cobalt_Kid View Post

The Supreme Court has ruled that Canadians have the right to peacefully demonstrate. If the police are acting to incite protestors to violence then they are acting outside their mandate are violating the rights of the people they are supposed to serve.

This smells of manipulation for political purposes, the same as the APEC misadventure. The arrogance that took over inside the PMO under Chretien has reappeared under Harper. There's a reason he's gone so far to prevernt public srutiny of his office and it's not for the benefit of Canadians.

My guess is this is just the tip of the iceberg, stay tuned viewers.

If you are really concerned, you should write letters to your MP, the various cabinet ministers and even the Prime Minister. You probably have friends that feel the same way, you can write up letters together and print them off, sign your individual names and mail them off.
 
Cobalt_Kid
#9
There's no point in sending views to the government, in this current climate I wouldn't feel comfortable doing it anyway.

The opposition will be getting my vote and financial support in the next election however.
 
Stretch
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by Cobalt_Kid View Post

There's no point in sending views to the government, in this current climate I wouldn't feel comfortable doing it anyway.

The opposition will be getting my vote and financial support in the next election however.

So, mate... you assume that the "opposition" is any different?
 
BitWhys
#11
QPP and the Minister of Public Safety are saying they were undercover provinicials and that's alright but for the life of me I can't figure out what good their presence would have been had things turned ugly.
 
catman
#12
The police have to explain why the unvercover cops were there holding rocks. Most protesters seen with rocks in their hands are about to throw them.
 
Cobalt_Kid
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by Stretch View Post

So, mate... you assume that the "opposition" is any different?

I don't know...what I do know is the **** we have in power now needs a swift kick in the arse right out of office. And if the next PM is as big a jerk do the same until we get someone who actually wants to work for us instead of against us...mate
 
YoungJoonKim
#14
Quote:

So, mate... you assume that the "opposition" is any different?

Well, I think that it is not different, at all.
Its more like of an revenge for making this happen than trusting other party hehe
 
wallyj
#15
What a bunch of fools!!! The guy with the rock should be sent to patrol the coldest place in Quebec,along with his boss,for a few years.
 
Toro
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by wallyj View Post

What a bunch of fools!!! The guy with the rock should be sent to patrol the coldest place in Quebec,along with his boss,for a few years.

Yeah, we need more competent cops if we're going to bust those hippie ne'er-do-wells.
 
YoungJoonKim
#17
We need more "smart" cops to do the job.
Who can actually think and decide.
Our current police are too low standard :P
 
Colpy
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by BitWhys View Post

QPP and the Minister of Public Safety are saying they were undercover provinicials and that's alright but for the life of me I can't figure out what good their presence would have been had things turned ugly.

Yeah.

These idiots were obviously inciting to riot.........and why were they in union lines? Good Lord, my wife is a member of the Paperworkers and Communications union........and I'm a Teamster. Neither of us is about to attack a police line in support of anarchy.....

I understand that police inserted in a crowd can be useful.......by identifying those inciting or engaging in violence, and, if given the chance isolating them and aiding in an arrest......but NOT inciting them to riot.

Way, way out of line the cops were on this one.

Just plain stupid beyond belief.
 
Unforgiven
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Quote: Originally Posted by Stretch View Post

So, mate... you assume that the "opposition" is any different?

Exactly, so how do you send a message that gets through to the scoundrels?
Vote Green Party?
 
goat
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Quote:

My guess is this is just the tip of the iceberg, stay tuned viewers.

Stay tuned is right.

Stay tuned and watch the police investigate themselves yet again with the usual much anticipated outcome.
 
BitWhys
#21
Stockwell's take on it was pretty classic. Follow the leader.

Rocks for Peace, man. Rocks for Peace.
 
Unforgiven
#22
Didn't anyone notice it was parttime geologists take your rock to work day?
 
missile
#23
I was hoping that the 3 were members of CSIS..a sign that they were trying to earn their salaries,for a change.
 
Dreadful Nonsense
#24
cops and their grand ideas.....
what about the rousting black kids are getting from toronto cops...they are being hassled to hell...been talking to a few...yeah their no angels and they bragged their friend whilst being rousted pulled a gun fired it in the air and the cops ran chicken....that sort of put a different bent on the way i was viewing these kids....but hell hassling black kids is not the way to go....it's turning into a facist state on some levels if you ask me.....the cops are turning out to be morons and morons don't really come up with good ways of policing the mob......

if they were that intelligent we would not have the situation we have today ...guns in the hands of ever kid that wants to feel the power....i mean how the hell did it get to this.....

quebec cops.......yer kidding me huh?.....what do you expect?
 
MikeyDB
#25
Hya Doc

Our "police" and our governments have demonstrated their ineptitude time and time again. Air India was a 22 year exercise in dodging responsibility. Maher Arar was victim to placating the American hysteria over terrorism that's been used by the Bush government to reap billions in profit for "friends of the administration".....

Cops who can hassle anyone's kids, whether its black kids yellow kids or red kids are simply living up to the expectations of their political masters.
 
Nuggler
#26
"Whad rok???
Oh, dis one ere, de wun in my an.............
Ya dis one gown pass by de 'ed of u ver soon
Tu harse-ole, dem on STRAIT or, or whad hever
whe ere to mak sur u be bon good tabarnac!!
Or somting lak dat
Ow com A'm spek d'anglais en Quebec hanyway?
Jees Crass!!
'Am trow dis rok fer sur maintenant!! Me.

Peace.
 

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