Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiing
I bet the 1% of the population that can afford a Jaguar in the first place is salivating.
Here is a chunk of LIE-beral propaganda that tries and fails to persuade us that electric cars will be good for us! With some comments of my own in brackets):
Why Lorrie Goldstein is wrong about electric cars
Alan Hayes, Special to the Toronto Sun. First posted: Thursday, November 03, 2016 05:41 PM EDT | Updated: Thursday, November 03, 2016 05:45 PM EDT
Trudeau Liberals set to join Wynne Liberals in helping rich people buy electric cars. Questions after Murray staffer takes post with Tesla
Re Lorrie Goldstein’s column “Trudeau Liberals set to join Wynne Liberals in helping rich people buy electric cars.”
I own and operate EcoLimo Niagara. This is a local Niagara company specializing in zero-emission transportation. I operate a Tesla Model S, providing the ultimate “Eco-Friendly” wine tours, airport transfers, sightseeing, etc.
(That`s nice- Tesla model S is the LUXURY vehicle sold to environmentally conscious MILLIONAIRES!)
I previously owned and operated EcoLimo York Region for 10 years, where I provided low-emission transportation with hybrid vehicles.
(Oh my- you had HYBRID vehicles? In an OPEN admission that an all electric car simply does not have the range NOR the swift refueling capacity and convenience of a gasoline car?)
I am a proponent of Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne’s Electric Vehicle (EV) incentive program as I see this is a great way to help get more electric vehicles into the taxi and airport transfer industry.
(Sadly- as other Toronto Sun writers have proved- the great majority of those who support electric cars do so FOR THE GOVT SUBSIDIES!)
We currently have thousands of gas-guzzling vehicles burning millions of gallons of gasoline and propane in vehicles that often carry just one passenger.
If the owners of these vehicles could use substantial incentives to purchase electric vehicles and/or plug-in hybrids, we could reduce our carbon footprint by a huge amount.
(Sadly, we cannot afford such subsidies! One has only to look at the latest tv commercials in this summer of 2017- in which the gas powered Nissan Qashqai is offered at $20,000.00 Cdn while the new Tesla model 3 is offered at $35,000.00 U.S! Which makes the model 3 about DOUBLE the cost of a gas powered Nissan! With the added bonus that the Model 3 is untested in real world conditions and has that pesky limited range and awkward refueling deal as well as the extra cost! With the further bonus that Nissan parts are available off the shelf at various retail outlets while Tesla parts are offered at.......some place......?)
(Sadly, Hayes IGNORES a quicker, cheaper and vastly easier method of cutting down on green house gas emissions! We COULD simply cut back on the gravy we pay to civil service union Hogs! An admittedly informal survey reveals that the majority of those lining up at any airport are Hogs! And why not? We pay them at least one third MORE than similar workers in the private sector- and that does NOT include their HUGE pension rip off! Ontari-owe LIE-berals have promised an extra fifty five Billion dollars in pension top ups to OSSTF/Ontari-owe high school teachers- with EIGHTEEN other unions promised hundreds of billions more! Cut gravy payments to Hogs and watch our air miraculously CLEAR!)
(Think of the THOUSANDS of ATV`s, riding lawn mowers, sea- doos and all those HUGE gas guzzling motor boats rumbling along waterways at gallons per mile and NOT miles per gallon! Think of the “bubble systems” those eldctrically powere air compressors that pump air into pipes laid on lake bottoms to keep water stirred up for 6 months each year so Hogs will not have ice damage on their precious cedar constructions!)
“The emission cuts are so low because few people buy electric cars, with good reason.
“Electric vehicles are more expensive than conventional ones and have limited range, which decreases in cold weather.
“Who buys them? Rich people.”
(Goldstein fails to mention that Lithium- the major component in any battery is at least as toxic as oil ans may be WORSE! Additionally, Lithium may be in SHORTER supply than oil. And Lithium is highly flammable if exposed to air- as my happen in a car crash where the battery case is damaged -which will produce a major fire that no Cnd fire dept is currently equipped to deal with!)
This doesn’t sound like someone who has- I quote from his reply to me: “Nothing against the owners of electric cars” and has “no problem with me or anyone else buying an electric car or taking advantage of an available public subsidy.”
(Lorrie said he was against the government giving out such a subsidy. Generally Motors has announced that it will LOSE $9,000.00 U.S. on every electric car it manages to sell in California- with the losses made up by higher prices on all other GM products! Sounds like a great way to encourage fraud and fakery when buying a car along the state lines!)
He mentioned a few, very highly priced electric vehicles like the Porsche 918 Spyder BMW I8, Fisker Karma & Tesla Roadster.
These are a fraction of the electric cars sold in Canada.
Strange he didn’t mention cars like the Nissan Leaf, Chevy Volt etc. that have far more substantive sales.
(AS other Sun reporters have noted- the ONLY people supporting electric cars are a few eccentric millionaires and a batch of others who are getting major subsidies at OUR cost!)
The point of using public money to encourage early adopters to move to cleaner technology, is that gas fuelled cars are polluting public air with health-compromising pollution and greenhouse gases leading to global warming.
Lorrie wrote: “The government has now limited subsidies to electric cars costing up to $150,000. An upper limit of $50,000 would at least be more reasonable”.
This does not show that the higher subsidies are capped at $75,000.
(Who cares about which upper limit is more reasonable? Most Cdns think the nine grand GM is offering is Bull-s++t! And comparing Nissan Qashqai to Tesla model 3 prices ain`t helping!)
Wouldn’t it have been better if he said that the government has capped the subsidies of electric cars costing $75,000 and that electric vehicles that cost between $75,000 and$150,000 now have a much lower subsidy of $3,000?
I am a member of a few local electric car clubs/groups and there are many Tesla owners who are not “rich people”.
(Its all a matter of perspective- after all- thousands of cdns on the Sunshine List do not define themselves as rich!)
Although I am sure there are some wealthy Tesla owners out there, many of them are just ordinary middle class people that understand the value of an electric car’s very low operating costs, not to mention the environmental benefits.
I invited Lorrie to attend a meeting or two of any of a number of electric vehicle car clubs/groups to meet the early adopters, as he would then have a better insight towards local electric vehicle owners, their cars and why they are the groundbreakers of the future!
I’m still working on Lorrie to go to one or two of these meetings!
(I aks: Why don’t you quit wasting time with Lorrie and put up a comprehensive list of who is getting what subsidies in exchange for their electric car support?)
- Hayes operates EcoLimoNiagara dot com
(And apparently he has a nice little sideline as an electric car booster- probably with suitable govt subsidies!)