Shoe thrown at Bush (great legacy)


Socrates the Greek
#1
Who will rebuild Iraq?

President George Bush Gets Shoe Thrown at Him | Hollyscoop
 
Nuggler
#2
..........It's about 8 years too late, but, that guy was close enough to shoot him.

Not that I would EVER condone such an act. Just a passing thought.

 
talloola
No Party Affiliation
#3
Good for the iraqi, but he will probably be dealt with harshly, if bush had his way,
he would throw him in guantomino, along with many others who have done nothing
wrong.
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
#4
Thank God that guy threw his shoes at GWB leaving him empty handed. If he
had a stapler, and the RCMP where present, this could have ended very badly
for that Iranian Reporter....At least he's live to tell the tale.

There's room for a "Weapons of Mass Stapling" pun if anyone is interested in
throwing it out there....
 
Kreskin
#5
YouTube - Shoes Hurled at Bush in Iraq Press Conference
 
Risus
#6
Looks good on bushinski, Too bad the shoe missed.... In Iraq that is considered a great insult.

The yanks have great security, eh?? On second thought maybe they want him dead...
 
Walter
#7
Bush has great reflexes. We should all be as agile at his age, 62.
 
Kreskin
#8
He could be a good hockey goalie.
 
Kreskin
#9
It does seem odd. One shoe tossed wasn't good enough for security to stand up. Had to be a second.
 
gopher
No Party Affiliation
+1
#10  Top Rated Post
That's Iraq's way of saying ''thank you, Bush''.
 
talloola
No Party Affiliation
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Bush has great reflexes. We should all be as agile at his age, 62.

maybe physically, but mentally there is not much there.
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#12
maybe physically, but mentally there is not much there.

Judging from the damage he's caused, I'm beginning to think he was just playing dumb so we'd think he was too much of a fool to pull it off all by himself. He may be just really crafty and let Rumsfeld and Cheney take the fall.
 
Scott Free
Free Thinker
#13
He'll probably lose his press pass.
 
JBeee
#14
I was kind of hoping it was a `shoe-bomb`.

Would have been appropriate that Mr Bush had his cranial matter splattered inside the country his war-crimes were carried out.
 
Walter
#15
Makes an oxymoron of the term, 'objective journalist'.
 
Tonington
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Bush has great reflexes. We should all be as agile at his age, 62.

Practice makes perfect ehh? Bush has been ducking the tough questions for the last 8.9 years! He didn't have any folksy replies for that one!
 
Praxius
Free Thinker
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by Kreskin View Post

He could be a good hockey goalie.

Not really, if they both smacked him in the face then I'd agree with ya.... but you're not supposed to let the puck passed ya, doncha know?

Quote: Originally Posted by Kreskin View Post

It does seem odd. One shoe tossed wasn't good enough for security to stand up. Had to be a second.

Well I guess when you toss your shoe at someone is a pretty bad insult (Which feet and shoes are considered some of the most offensive and disgusting things since they're on the ground all the time and all..... which is why you wash your feet) but throwing two is supposed to be just about as bad as you can get. And apparently the reporter is an Iraqi who has been there covering everything that has been happening in Iraq since day one. So I can sorta imagine why he threw his shoes at him. Considering he probably has so much pent up over the last few years, he's lucky he didn't go and suicide the whole place.

Then again, they probably already checked everybody for bombs, knives and guns before they went in.

I guess now in the future all US Presidential speeches to the media will require no shoes beyond entrance.
 
hermite
Free Thinker
#18
He is being interrogated, now.An Iraqi journalist who threw his pair of shoes at U.S. President George W. Bush during a press conference in Baghdad Sunday is being held for interrogation over whether he was paid to interrupt the President's address.Muntadar al-Zeidi, a reporter of Iraqi TV news channel Al-Baghdadia, was also tested for alcohol and drugs by the Iraqi Prime Minister's guards, media reports said Monday.

But...

Saddam Hussein's former lawyer said on Monday that he was forming a team to defend the Iraqi journalist who hurled his shoes at US President George W. Bush during his farewell visit to Baghdad.

"So far around 200 Iraqi and other lawyers, including Americans, have expressed willingness to defend the journalist for free," the Amman-based Khalil al-Dulaimi told AFP.

"I took the decision on Sunday night to defend the man after the incident. I am currently contacting Arab bar associations to form a defence committee."

I think the guy should get a medal.
 
Risus
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by talloola View Post

maybe physically, but mentally there is not much there.

his iq is less than his shoe size...
Last edited by Risus; Dec 15th, 2008 at 09:25 AM..
 
mabudon
#20
Quote:

I guess now in the future all US Presidential speeches to the media will require no shoes beyond entrance

HAHA just like in a mosque or somethin

I was lookin at a mainly southern US based site and a lot of the folks were saying that the Iraqi "embarassed his country" by doing this, as if they're not even allowed to HATE what has happened at the hands of the Bush admin
 
hermanntrude
#21
to be fair what that man did was not good. It was certainly understandable, and even amusing. however, the action did not cause anything good to happen, and will probably only make matters worse in the long run.

two wrongs do not make a right, even if one of the wrongs is a massive war crime and the other is a rather amusing attack with a shoe
 
Praxius
Free Thinker
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by mabudon View Post

HAHA just like in a mosque or somethin

I was lookin at a mainly southern US based site and a lot of the folks were saying that the Iraqi "embarassed his country" by doing this, as if they're not even allowed to HATE what has happened at the hands of the Bush admin

Yeah they're one's to talk about embarassment.
 
Praxius
Free Thinker
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by hermanntrude View Post

to be fair what that man did was not good. It was certainly understandable, and even amusing. however, the action did not cause anything good to happen, and will probably only make matters worse in the long run.

two wrongs do not make a right, even if one of the wrongs is a massive war crime and the other is a rather amusing attack with a shoe

Sure all kinds of good will come out of this. Now in the future when everybody looks back into history of the Iraq war and reference Bush, they'll have a picture of him ducking shoes and what better way to close off a legacy like that?
 
Praxius
Free Thinker
#24
Realted News:


A shoe is raised during a protest against the U.S. president's visit in the Shiite stronghold of Sadr City in Baghdad on Monday. An Iraqi journalist threw his shoes at President George W. Bush during a news conference on Sunday.

Thousands of Iraqis protest arrest of shoe-throwing journalist
Thousands of Iraqis protest arrest of shoe-throwing journalist

Quote:

Thousands of Iraqis protested the detention of an Iraqi journalist who was arrested after he threw his shoes at U.S. President George W. Bush during a news conference in Baghdad.

In Sadr City, thousands of supporters of radical Shia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr burned American flags to protest against Bush and called for the release of Muntadhar al-Zeidi.

"Bush, Bush, listen well: Two shoes on your head," the protesters chanted in unison.

In Najaf, a Shia holy city, some protesters threw their shoes at an American patrol as it passed by. Witnesses said the American troops did not respond and continued on their patrol.

Many others across the Middle East were hailing al-Zeidi as a hero for throwing his shoes, considered a sign of disrespect in some Arab nations. Newspapers across the Arab world on Monday printed front-page photos of the incident.

The station al-Zeidi works for, Al-Baghdadia, aired pleas to release the reporter.

"We have all been mobilized to work on releasing him, and all the organizations around the world are with us," said Abdel-Hameed al-Sayeh, the manager of Al-Baghdadia in Cairo, where the station is based.

Al-Zeidi is being held by Iraqi security. The Associated Press reported that he is being questioned as to whether he was paid by someone to throw his shoes and is being tested for drugs and alcohol. His shoes are being held as evidence.

During the news conference on Sunday, al-Zeidi, stood up and threw his shoes at Bush, who was able to dodge the flying footwear.

Security officials jumped on al-Zeid. As he was dragged away, he yelled, "This is your farewell kiss, you dog!"

Al-Zeidi, who is in his late 20s, was kidnapped by Shiite militias on Nov. 16, 2007, and released three days later. His station said no ransom was paid and refused to discuss the case.

 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by Nuggler View Post

..........It's about 8 years too late, but, that guy was close enough to shoot him.

Not that I would EVER condone such an act. Just a passing thought.

I think that act says more about (the ignorance) of the thrower than the throwee.
 
Kreskin
#26
This could become an Olympic event.
 
normbc9
Conservative
#27
There is a lot to this story that the White House Press Secretary refused to OK in any media releases. The primary point is that in Arabic cultures this is a supreme insult. Bush is so dim he never even acknowledged that fact. The new US-Iraqi agreement being feted includes provisons for permanent US military bases on Iraqi soil. The journalist who threw the shoes lost immediate family and two homes in this conflict and also had been held prisoner (I don't know by who) for a period of time and had been mistreated. Maybe Bush will save the shoes and wear them off the White House grounds when entering retirement. I can't wait to get this slug out of office.
 
Praxius
Free Thinker
#28
Related News:


This undated portrait made available Monday, Dec. 15, 2008 by his family shows Iraqi journalist Muntadar al-Zeidi. al-Zeidi who threw his shoes at U.S. President Bush.

Arabs hail journalist who threw shoes at Bush
CTV.ca | Arabs hail journalist who threw shoes at Bush

Quote:

BAGHDAD -- Thousands of Iraqis took to the streets Monday to demand the release of a reporter who threw his shoes at President George W. Bush, as Arabs across many parts of the Middle East hailed the journalist as a hero and praised his insult as a proper send-off to the unpopular U.S. president.

The protests came as suicide bombers and gunmen targeted Iraqi police, U.S.-allied Sunni guards and civilians in a series of attacks Monday that killed at least 17 people and wounded more than a dozen others, officials said.

Journalist Muntadhar al-Zeidi, who was kidnapped by militants last year, was being held by Iraqi security Monday and interrogated about whether anybody paid him to throw his shoes at Bush during a press conference the previous day in Baghdad, said an Iraqi official.

He was also being tested for alcohol and drugs, and his shoes were being held as evidence, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media.

Showing the sole of your shoe to someone in the Arab world is a sign of extreme disrespect, and throwing your shoes is even worse.

Newspapers across the Arab world on Monday printed front-page photos of Bush ducking the flying shoes, and satellite TV stations repeatedly aired the incident, which provided fodder for jokes and was hailed by the president's many critics in the region.

"Iraq considers Sunday as the international day for shoes," said a joking text message circulating around the Saudi capital Riyadh.

Palestinian journalists in the West Bank town of Ramallah joked about who would be brave enough to toss their shoes at Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, another U.S. official widely disliked in the region.

Many users of the popular Internet networking site Facebook posted the video of the incident to their profile pages, showing al-Zeidi leap from his chair as Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki were about to shake hands Sunday and hurl his shoes at the president, who was about 20 feet away. Bush ducked the airborne footwear and was not injured in the incident.

"This is a farewell kiss, you dog," al-Zeidi yelled in Arabic as he threw his shoes. "This is from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq."

Al-Zeidi was immediately wrestled to the ground by Iraqi security guards. The incident raised fears of a security lapse in the heavily guarded Green Zone where the press conference took place. Reporters were repeatedly searched and asked to show identification before entering and while inside the compound, which houses al-Maliki's office and the U.S. Embassy.

Al-Zeidi's tirade was echoed by Arabs across the Middle East who are fed up with U.S. policy in the region and still angry over Bush's decision to invade Iraq in 2003 to topple Saddam Hussein.

The response to the incident by Arabs in the street was ecstatic.

"Al-Zeidi is the man," said 42-year-old Jordanian businessman Samer Tabalat. "He did what Arab leaders failed to do."

Hoping to capitalize on this sentiment, al-Zeidi's TV station, Al-Baghdadia, repeatedly aired pleas to release the reporter Monday, while showing footage of explosions and playing background music that denounced the U.S. in Iraq.

"We have all been mobilized to work on releasing him, and all the organizations around the world are with us," said Abdel-Hameed al-Sayeh, the manager of Al-Baghdadia in Cairo, where the station is based.

Al-Jazeera television interviewed Saddam's former chief lawyer Khalil al-Dulaimi, who offered to defend al-Zeidi, calling him a "hero."

In Baghdad's Shiite slum of Sadr City, thousands of supporters of radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr burned American flags to protest against Bush and called for the release of al-Zeidi.

"Bush, Bush, listen well: Two shoes on your head," the protesters chanted in unison.

In Najaf, a Shiite holy city, some protesters threw their shoes at an American patrol as it passed by. Witnesses said the American troops did not respond and continued on their patrol.

Al-Zeidi, who is in his late 20s, was kidnapped by Shiite militias on Nov. 16, 2007, and released three days later. His station said no ransom was paid and refused to discuss the case.

Violence in Iraq has declined significantly over the past year, but daily attacks continue. A truck bomb killed at least nine police officers Monday and wounded 13 others, including two civilians, in Khan Dhari, west of Baghdad, said Dr. Omar al-Rawi at the Fallujah hospital, where the dead and wounded were taken.

Hours earlier, a female suicide bomber knocked on the front door of the home of the leader of a local chapter of the Sunni volunteer militia north of Baghdad and blew herself up, killing him, said an Iraqi police official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the press.

Also Monday, gunmen killed seven people from a single family, members of the minority Yazidi sect, when they stormed into their home in northern Iraq, police said.


In an image taken from video, a man throws a shoe at U.S. President George W. Bush during a news conference with Iraq Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki in Baghdad, on Sunday, Dec. 14, 2008.

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So I guess we know who the next Iraq leader is going to be.
 
hermanntrude
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by Praxius View Post

Sure all kinds of good will come out of this. Now in the future when everybody looks back into history of the Iraq war and reference Bush, they'll have a picture of him ducking shoes and what better way to close off a legacy like that?

you think simplifying it and trivialising it will help people remember the important stuff?
 
Praxius
Free Thinker
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by hermanntrude View Post

you think simplifying it and trivialising it will help people remember the important stuff?

I was talking more in reference towards Bush, not the Iraq war in direct relation.

Sorta like how everybody remembers Clinton for getting a blow job, people will remember Bush for getting shoes chucked at him...... among many other things over the years.

I call it his trademark from here on out.

But I sure ain't trivializing the whole war down to a simple shoe throwing.... there's a lot of background and emotional reasoning behind that throw, which leads into explination of all that has transpired before that.

If it was a Michael Moore documentary, it'd start with the shoe throwing and then go into detail about everything behind it.

But I am not by any means trivializing the situation. I think it's quite fitting..... until something better comes along.
 

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