Does getting behind the wheel make you more stupid?


Chiliagon
#1
I saw today this guy, he was driving down the highway into the city during the good ole rush hour morning traffic. he was in the right lane, driving behind a slower green jeep/SUV type.

there were like 4 vehicles possibly more in the left lane and they were all nice and close to each other driving.

THIS guy was determined to get into the left lane! he didn't care that there was no room.

he tried once and had to make a sudden retreat!

He then said "Im getting in there!" and he forced his way, making the guy just behind it to hit his brakes and let him in! of course, he only wanted in there for a few seconds and was back into the right lane and sped off like a jackass.

I really gotta wonder, does the wheel have a special power that causes stupidity? hehehehehe
 
lone wolf
#2
It's more like: Strap on a metal cocoon and turn up the tunes and Lardy, Lard yer bulletproof
 
Praxius
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by Chiliagon View Post

I saw today this guy, he was driving down the highway into the city during the good ole rush hour morning traffic. he was in the right lane, driving behind a slower green jeep/SUV type.

there were like 4 vehicles possibly more in the left lane and they were all nice and close to each other driving.

THIS guy was determined to get into the left lane! he didn't care that there was no room.

he tried once and had to make a sudden retreat!

He then said "Im getting in there!" and he forced his way, making the guy just behind it to hit his brakes and let him in! of course, he only wanted in there for a few seconds and was back into the right lane and sped off like a jackass.

I really gotta wonder, does the wheel have a special power that causes stupidity? hehehehehe

What really got me curious was how you knew he said "I'm Getting in There."

We're you in the car with him or was it you who did this?
 
Chiliagon
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by Praxius View Post

What really got me curious was how you knew he said "I'm Getting in There."

We're you in the car with him or was it you who did this?

funny!

of course he didn't say that. i'm just picturing the realism that he's likely thinking in his mind "I want in and you will let me"
 
CDNBear
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by Chiliagon View Post

I saw today this guy, he was driving down the highway into the city during the good ole rush hour morning traffic. he was in the right lane, driving behind a slower green jeep/SUV type.

there were like 4 vehicles possibly more in the left lane and they were all nice and close to each other driving.

THIS guy was determined to get into the left lane! he didn't care that there was no room.

he tried once and had to make a sudden retreat!

He then said "Im getting in there!" and he forced his way, making the guy just behind it to hit his brakes and let him in! of course, he only wanted in there for a few seconds and was back into the right lane and sped off like a jackass.

I really gotta wonder, does the wheel have a special power that causes stupidity? hehehehehe

Where's the contempt for the asshat driving slower then overtaking traffic in the fast lane, without dropping a lane to let them by?
 
karrie
#6
What jumped out at me was that there were 4 cars traveling so close together that he couldn`t lane change into that lane. That and the fact that his intent to change lanes seemed clear to Chili, yet it sounds like someone tried to not give him `permission`.

That's not to say the guy wasn't driving like a moron, but, when everyone else is driving the way they're supposed to, an aggressive moron in the mix shouldn't be too big a deal.
 
Chiliagon
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

Where's the contempt for the asshat driving slower then overtaking traffic in the fast lane, without dropping a lane to let them by?

are you talking about the guy in the right lane going slower?

there is no other lane! there are only two lanes.. the right and left lane

right lane is for slow drivers or ones that are going 110. and the left are for people who wanna go fast and be dumb and pass everyone.

the guy in the slow lane has the right to go 110km/hr.

Quote: Originally Posted by karrie View Post

What jumped out at me was that there were 4 cars traveling so close together that he couldn`t lane change into that lane. That and the fact that his intent to change lanes seemed clear to Chili, yet it sounds like someone tried to not give him `permission`.

That's not to say the guy wasn't driving like a moron, but, when everyone else is driving the way they're supposed to, an aggressive moron in the mix shouldn't be too big a deal.

yea I know. everyone seems to ignore the whole 1 car length distance for every 10km's you speed up rule.

now imagine if the first guy had to hit his brakes because of a cat or deer or someone who wasn't looking where he was going and went into the lane and he panicks?

now you have 4 tailgating crashes and a nice accident.

the problem I have is the guy who is trying to enter into the lane knows this is already too crowded but doesn't give a damn and only cares about his own well being and moves in.
 
CDNBear
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by Chiliagon View Post

are you talking about the guy in the right lane going slower?

there is no other lane! there are only two lanes.. the right and left lane

right lane is for slow drivers or ones that are going 110. and the left are for people who wanna go fast and be dumb and pass everyone.

the guy in the slow lane has the right to go 110km/hr.

My bad, I miss read your post.
 
karrie
#9
a tip for peace and sanity while driving Chili is to not try to decide what the mindset of the other driver is unless they specifically tell you. Too many people decide 'this guy thinks ____'. He just as easily could have been horribly late, with a presentation or perhaps his entire career hanging on the line. He could have had a kid in the car with him about to pee their pants, with no safe place to pull over, just as readily as your assumptions about his thoughts and motives. I try to just give people the benefit, and shrug their behaviour off unless it's criminal, and relax into my drive. Otherwise you run the risk of being him one day in a rage.
 
Chiliagon
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by karrie View Post

a tip for peace and sanity while driving Chili is to not try to decide what the mindset of the other driver is unless they specifically tell you. Too many people decide 'this guy thinks ____'. He just as easily could have been horribly late, with a presentation or perhaps his entire career hanging on the line. He could have had a kid in the car with him about to pee their pants, with no safe place to pull over, just as readily as your assumptions about his thoughts and motives. I try to just give people the benefit, and shrug their behaviour off unless it's criminal, and relax into my drive. Otherwise you run the risk of being him one day in a rage.

ok I see your point.

now think along this line too.

what got him into this situation to begin with?

is it : he doesn't leave on time?

is it: he's naturally aggressive when he drives?

is it: a male ego thing?

is it: he is a careless driver?
 
CDNBear
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by Chiliagon View Post

ok I see your point.

now think along this line too.

what got him into this situation to begin with?

is it : he doesn't leave on time?

is it: he's naturally aggressive when he drives?

is it: a male ego thing?

is it: he is a careless driver?

Or he wants to drive fast and people won't drop a lane to allow a faster vehicle to overtake them, like they were instructed to do in driving class?

Just because the speed limit is X, doesn't mean you have the right to enforce it. Then you have IHTBIF syndrome. Which is a whole other issue.

I like to drive fast Chili. I find it ignorant, when some assclown sits in the fast lane doing 2km/h, more the the next lane down. If you're slowly overtaking a vehicle, pull out, speed up, pass, pull back and don't use the "fast" lane as your personal preference.
 
karrie
#12
What would be the point in worrying about it? People will always leave late, they will always have a bad day, there will always be drivers with overinflated egos and senses of self importance. There will always be carelessness and mistakes and bad decisions.

What I see as a major issue on our road ways is when we spend our time worrying about what OTHER people, who we have no control over, are doing, rather than worrying about what WE are doing. And you can guarantee, no matter what the 'reason' for his bad driving, he likely falls into that category. That's all I really have control over, is making sure I am conscious and careful in what I do, and that I don't turn into that driver by spending my time worrying about why the drivers aren't letting me in, and instead just relax, and only go when its safe to get in.
 
Chiliagon
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

Or he wants to drive fast and people won't drop a lane to allow a faster vehicle to overtake them, like they were instructed to do in driving class?

Just because the speed limit is X, doesn't mean you have the right to enforce it. Then you have IHTBIF syndrome. Which is a whole other issue.

I like to drive fast Chili. I find it ignorant, when some assclown sits in the fast lane doing 2km/h, more the the next lane down. If you're slowly overtaking a vehicle, pull out, speed up, pass, pull back and don't use the "fast" lane as your personal preference.


absolutely! I agree.

but if you feel it's your right to speed 20-30 over, it's the govt's right to penalize you a large $$ amt.

Quote: Originally Posted by karrie View Post

What would be the point in worrying about it? People will always leave late, they will always have a bad day, there will always be drivers with overinflated egos and senses of self importance. There will always be carelessness and mistakes and bad decisions.

What I see as a major issue on our road ways is when we spend our time worrying about what OTHER people, who we have no control over, are doing, rather than worrying about what WE are doing. And you can guarantee, no matter what the 'reason' for his bad driving, he likely falls into that category. That's all I really have control over, is making sure I am conscious and careful in what I do, and that I don't turn into that driver by spending my time worrying about why the drivers aren't letting me in, and instead just relax, and only go when its safe to get in.


ya i know. I didn't really worry about it for too long, I had to be more concerned about all the morons on the road that were making my driving day less enjoyable.
 
CDNBear
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by Chiliagon View Post

absolutely! I agree.

but if you feel it's your right to speed 20-30 over, it's the govt's right to penalize you a large $$ amt.

That's right.

It's not some assclown that has IHTBIF syndrome doing it.

I don't know about today, but when I took my driving course years ago, I was tought to yield to faster traffic, not determine whether or not they were speeding, then pretend I was the speed control monitor.
 
Chiliagon
#15
ya, I just can't understand the need for it..

it's pretty bad these days. mostly because they know the police are not out at all and they can get away with it.

it's too bad really, there's money to be made.
 
#juan
+1
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

That's right.

It's not some assclown that has IHTBIF syndrome doing it.

I don't know about today, but when I took my driving course years ago, I was taught to yield to faster traffic, not determine whether or not they were speeding, then pretend I was the speed control monitor.

Exactly bear. There are still many of these signs that tell us to "keep right except to pass" that everyone seems to ignore. In the OP the author talks about four cars in the left lane who are driving close together. Could the driver trying to pass be responding to an emergency call and he is thwarted by these clowns in the left lane?
 
CDNBear
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by Chiliagon View Post

ya, I just can't understand the need for it..

I like throwing on something like...

YouTube - The Kills - U R A Fever

Late on a summer night, windows down, while the street lights pass me at mach 3.

It feels good!

Quote:

it's pretty bad these days. mostly because they know the police are not out at all and they can get away with it.

Or like me, they get off on it.

Quote:

it's too bad really, there's money to be made.

And Cops to out run.

I have a tricked out Honda Civic. Loud system and a need for speed.
 
wulfie68
+1
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by karrie View Post

What I see as a major issue on our road ways is when we spend our time worrying about what OTHER people, who we have no control over, are doing, rather than worrying about what WE are doing. And you can guarantee, no matter what the 'reason' for his bad driving, he likely falls into that category. That's all I really have control over, is making sure I am conscious and careful in what I do, and that I don't turn into that driver by spending my time worrying about why the drivers aren't letting me in, and instead just relax, and only go when its safe to get in.

Defensive driving means you do have to worry about what the next person is doing/going to do. It allows you to plan on how you are going to avoid a crash... this is something I've taken from driving coaches at times over the years. You don't want to obsess over what everyone else is doing but you need to be aware of it. When I read the comments in this thread it seems like a bunch of things are out of whack:

- why are people in the left lane when they don't need to turn off or pass someone else
- 4 vehicles stacked up with no room for a guy to get in between seems like people not leaving adequate reaction space in case something DID happen (i.e. lead car has to suddenly stop and you have a 4 car+ pile up)
- buddy trying to "force his way" sounds overly aggressive from Chiliagon's description... but is he being aggressive or trying to avoid someone else not following the rules of the road?

Its hard to judge who was being the most idiotic in this situation: we've all been in them and even then its hard to tell (except for the times we know we're the ones that screwed up ).
 
karrie
+1
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by wulfie68 View Post

Defensive driving means you do have to worry about what the next person is doing/going to do. It allows you to plan on how you are going to avoid a crash... this is something I've taken from driving coaches at times over the years. You don't want to obsess over what everyone else is doing but you need to be aware of it. When I read the comments in this thread it seems like a bunch of things are out of whack:.

Oh I agree wulfie, BUT... defensive driving trains you to be aware of other vehicles, and where they might go, not to worry about other DRIVERS, if that makes sense. You need to leave distance between vehicles, anticipate breaking, anticipate rolling stops, missed lights, etc., but it doesn't cover worrying about motivations and mindsets, which is what too many people worry about, and what drives them to madness on the road.
 
lone wolf
+2
#20  Top Rated Post
The only vehicle you can control is the one you are driving so drive it like you're the only one out there with brains. It's amazing how many times you'll be right....
 
Spade
#21
On Aether Island, we allow traffic to merge. It'd called courtesy. No one gets into a rage. We don't speed up to prevent access for the driver who wishes to travel in our lane. Our scientists claim simple courtesy reduces accidents.
 
TenPenny
+1
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by Chiliagon View Post

but if you feel it's your right to speed 20-30 over, it's the govt's right to penalize you a large $$ amt.

Every single time I'm on the highway, I'm speeding. But I accept the fact that, if I'm caught, I pay a fine.
That's the rules of the game.

People who whine and fight about tickets are poor losers.
 
gerryh
#23
I just love this "fast lane , slow lane" crap. The damn speed limit is 110kmh. If you are doing LESS THAN the posted limit you should be in the RIGHT LANE. The only time you NEED to be in the left lane is when you need to pass someone that is doing LESS THAN the posted speed limit.
 
talloola
+1
#24
my latest pet peeve, (because it has happened 4 times in the last two weeks), is when I am sitting
waiting to turn left, waiting for all the traffic to go by, for a spot to come open, and the light
turns amber, and the 'late' car of oncoming traffic, (who has time to stop,) speeds up to get thru the 'allready' amber
light, leaving me there, out in the intersection, and not only that, it is very dangerous, I can imagine
many accidents have happened from 'just' that situation.
 
lone wolf
+1
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

I just love this "fast lane , slow lane" crap. The damn speed limit is 110kmh. If you are doing LESS THAN the posted limit you should be in the RIGHT LANE. The only time you NEED to be in the left lane is when you need to pass someone that is doing LESS THAN the posted speed limit.

I think I'd like one of those ACME boxing glove things that can spring out of my left tail light to biff the moron who has to tailgate or ride my blind spot then race me the last hundred feet to the end of the passing lane right in the mouth....

*whew!* How's that for one breath.....
 
karrie
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by talloola View Post

my latest pet peeve, (because it has happened 4 times in the last two weeks), is when I am sitting
waiting to turn left, waiting for all the traffic to go by, for a spot to come open, and the light
turns amber, and the 'late' car of oncoming traffic, (who has time to stop,) speeds up to get thru the 'allready' amber
light, leaving me there, out in the intersection, and not only that, it is very dangerous, I can imagine
many accidents have happened from 'just' that situation.

well, technically (and I do the same thing talloola, so please don't take it as a comment directed solely at you), you're not supposed to pull into the intersection to wait for an opening. Everyone does it, but, it's technically a traffic violation to do it that way. You're only supposed to proceed into the intersection when you know you can travel through it.
 
gerryh
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by karrie View Post

well, technically (and I do the same thing talloola, so please don't take it as a comment directed solely at you), you're not supposed to pull into the intersection to wait for an opening. Everyone does it, but, it's technically a traffic violation to do it that way. You're only supposed to proceed into the intersection when you know you can travel through it.


exactley
 
YukonJack
+1
#28
A few weeks/months ago I opined - totally tongue-in-cheek - on a similar thread, that brain capacity/intelligence is a function of the relation of weight of brain compared to total body-weight, thereby intelligence is reduced when a person becomes one with a 3,000+ lbs vehicle.

The humourless pseudo-intellectuals came out in full force.

Reading this, no doubt, they will come out again.
 
talloola
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by karrie View Post

well, technically (and I do the same thing talloola, so please don't take it as a comment directed solely at you), you're not supposed to pull into the intersection to wait for an opening. Everyone does it, but, it's technically a traffic violation to do it that way. You're only supposed to proceed into the intersection when you know you can travel through it.

i'm sure you're right karrie, but yes, we all do it, and it really doesn't change anything concerning my situation because the other driver also was against the rules by surging ahead thru a light that was about to turn red.

If we all did what we are suppose to do, there would be more annoyance from driver
behind, who on many occasions can also get around the corner if he/she has a bit of a start. Sitting
back out of the intersection slows things down, we all have become very 'savvy' behind the wheel, and
can maneuver throughout the city more professionally, and we have found ways to make things move
more flowingly and efficiently when we all are on the same page, but unfortunately there are too
many pages for some, and many have a different book alltogether than the rest of us.

But the law also says, that when one is left in the middle of an intersection after
light changes, he/she has the right of way.

To hell with the law lol lol lol
 
lone wolf
#30
Yellow is supposed to be enough time to clear the intersection. It seldom is....
 

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