What Do Flat-Earthers Think Is Going On During A Solar Eclipse?


B00Mer
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What Do Flat-Earthers Think Is Going On During A Solar Eclipse?



Today, Monday, August 21, is a day where the US and other parts of the world can come together and bathe in a stunning display of astronomy. However, some are seeing the phenomenon in a very different light.

The Internet-dwelling flat-Earth community is poised and ready for the great solar eclipse, hoping it will poke holes in all that heliocentric stuff by proving the Earth is flat once and for all.

It’s worth noting that scientists can only predict solar eclipses thanks to the heliocentric model, the idea that the Earth and other planets revolve around the Sun, and the orbital mechanics of our Solar System. So, what could there be to argue with?

Some people on Twitter suggest NASA is encouraging people to wear special solar glasses to hide the truth. In reality, it’s because looking at the Sun will cause permanent damage to your sight by literally burning a dot into your retinas.

“#NASA really dont want u lookin up at the #Eclipse without there Special #Glasses incase u see its not the #Moon infront of it , #FlatEarth,” wrote one tweeter.

When asked what is blocking the Sun if it isn’t the Moon, they replied: “We will find out tomorrow when million see and film it.”

Unfortunately for this flat-Earth enthusiast, it’s a cloudy day where they live in Ireland. Although you might say that bad weather is not unusual in Ireland, they posted a video of the murky sky along with the caption: “Over here in Ireland they really covered our Skies.” “They,” presumably, is NASA.





A major "hole in the story" for the flat-Earthers is the Moon's shadow. As YouTuber Jeremiah Daniel explains in his video, the shadow of an object cast from a spotlight shining onto a wall must always be at least the same size as the original object. Yet, they argue, the shadow of the Moon on Earth during a solar eclipse is not Moon-sized at all.

The Sun and a flashlight in your kitchen aren’t totally comparable. As Will Kinney, professor of physics at the University at Buffalo SUNY, told Mic: The Sun isn’t a simple “point source” like a flashlight. It’s a huge source of light, beaming out light in every direction from a considerable distance away relative to the Earth and the Moon. A better analogy would be the shadow of a marble in the light of a bonfire.

They also seem to question why the path of totality should travel from east to west if the Earth is spinning from west to east. Well, as professor Kinney and NASA explain, the moon is actually moving to the east in its orbit at about 3,400 kilometers (2,112 miles) per hour, while the Earth rotates a lot slower at 1,670 kilometers (1,037 miles) per hour.

Of course, none of this actually explains what’s blocking out the Sun, although one video tries to explain it with an odd rehash of Hindu mythology.

Anyway, that's far enough down the rabbit hole for today. Now, go outside and enjoy the total solar eclipse!

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Johnnny
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What would they say if the moon went behind the sun?

>(O_o)<

-.-
 
taxslave
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Flat earthers don't think.
 
Danbones
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blm thought somebody torn down the sun and replaced it with a black one
 
Cliffy
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#5
 
Tecumsehsbones
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I'm pretty sure they blame Obama.
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

What Do Flat-Earthers Think Is Going On During A Solar Eclipse?
A major "hole in the story" for the flat-Earthers is the Moon's shadow. As YouTuber Jeremiah Daniel explains in his video, the shadow of an object cast from a spotlight shining onto a wall must always be at least the same size as the original object. Yet, they argue, the shadow of the Moon on Earth during a solar eclipse is not Moon-sized at all.

Science or joke section??
If the light source is larger the shadow will always be smaller. The greater the distance between the object and the location of the shadow results in a smaller shadow the greater the distance is. The opposite is also true, larger shadow if the spotlight is smaller than the object.

Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

The Sun and a flashlight in your kitchen aren’t totally comparable. As Will Kinney, professor of physics at the University at Buffalo SUNY, told Mic: The Sun isn’t a simple “point source” like a flashlight. It’s a huge source of light, beaming out light in every direction from a considerable distance away relative to the Earth and the Moon. A better analogy would be the shadow of a marble in the light of a bonfire.

How close would a piece of paper have to be to catch a shadow?? If a person walks between the two does somebody on the object or the paper get a 'chill'?? (sunspot related question)

Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

They also seem to question why the path of totality should travel from east to west if the Earth is spinning from west to east. Well, as professor Kinney and NASA explain, the moon is actually moving to the east in its orbit at about 3,400 kilometers (2,112 miles) per hour, while the Earth rotates a lot slower at 1,670 kilometers (1,037 miles) per hour.

The plane of the moons orbit seems to be governed by another body, that would be the sun, yes or not??

Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

Anyway, that's far enough down the rabbit hole for today. Now, go outside and enjoy the total solar eclipse!

I assume he knows you have to come out of the rabbit hole to see the real one and he forgot his welding helmet so he can safely see the sun. Anybody going that way can give him the memo.

Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

blm thought somebody torn down the sun and replaced it with a black one

Why is the theory that gravity can bend light never never part of the chat related to such an event. The 'apparent speed' of the stars in the background should speed up a bit when approaching the sun and be slower when departing once it can be seen again on the other-side.

Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

I'm pretty sure they blame Obama.

What's the record for how long it is between when you wake up in the morning and his name is thought of?? 10 seconds is my pick.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Take your pills.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Flat earthers don't think.


I wonder if they think the sun and the moon are flat too!
 
captain morgan
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

What Do Flat-Earthers Think Is Going On During A Solar Eclipse?

The short answer to this Q is that all you flat earthers believe that it's happening as a result of global warming.

... Sound about right?
 
spaminator
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Rapper B.O.B. launches campaign to prove world is flat
WENN.COM
First posted: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 09:57 AM EDT | Updated: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:10 AM EDT
Rapper B.O.B. has launched a fundraising campaign to prove his theory that the world is flat.
The Airplanes star, real name Bobby Ray Simmons, Jr., became the target of Twitter trolls last year when he insisted Earth was flat, but he has refused to be convinced otherwise, despite scientific evidence.
To continue his efforts to prove his theory, the rapper has now started a campaign on GoFundMe titled “Show BoB The Curve” to raise money to help him send satellites into space that will search for the curve in the Earth, which proves it is round.
“What’s up y’all, it’s flat Earth Bob here,” he said in a video on his page. “I’m starting this GoFundMe because I would like to send one, if not multiple, satellites as far into space as I can or into orbit as I can to find the curve. I’m looking for the curve.”
He promised to keep fans who donated up to date with every step of his mission.
As WENN went to press, his page had raised just over $670 in donations towards his target of $200,000.
The 28-year-old was ridiculed on Twitter last year when he shared a picture of himself in front of a city landscape and wrote in the caption, “The cities in the background are approx. 16miles apart... where is the curve ? please explain this.”
A number of users criticised the musician’s thinking, with one stating, “16 miles is 0.06% of the earth’s circumference, you can’t expect to see the curvature of earth in that distance”, while another added, “If earth was flat we’d have already either discovered edges, or there would be more & more continents discovered.”
http://gofundme.com/showBoBthecurve
Rapper B.O.B. launches campaign to prove world is flat | Celebrities | Entertain
 
spaminator
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Man to launch himself in homemade rocket to prove the earth is flat
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Published:
November 21, 2017
Updated:
November 21, 2017 6:38 PM EST
In this Wednesday, Nov. 15, 2017, photograph, daredevil/limousine driver Mad Mike Hughes is shown with with his steam=powered rocket constructed out of salvage parts on a five-acre property that he leases in Apple Valley, Cal. Hughes plans to launch his homemade contraption on Saturday near the ghost town of Amboy, Cal., at a speed of roughly 500 miles-per-hour. (Waldo Stakes/HO courtesy of Mad Mike Hughes via AP)
Seeking to prove that a conspiracy of astronauts fabricated the shape of the Earth, a California man intends to launch himself 1,800 feet high on Saturday in a rocket he built from scrap metal.
Assuming the 500-mph, mile-long flight through the Mojave Desert does not kill him, Mike Hughes told the Associated Press, his journey into the atmosflat will mark the first phase of his ambitious flat-Earth space program.
Hughes’s ultimate goal is a subsequent launch that puts him miles above the Earth, where the 61-year-old limousine driver hopes to photograph proof of the disc we all live on.
“It’ll shut the door on this ball earth,” Hughes said in a fundraising interview with a flat-Earth group for Saturday’s flight, which ranged across theories that NASA is controlled by round-Earth Freemasons, and Elon Musk makes fake rockets from blimps.
Hughes promised the flat Earth community to expose the conspiracy with his steam-powered rocket, which will launch from a heavily modified mobile home – though he acknowledged that he still had much to learn about rocket science.
In this Wednesday, Nov. 15, 2017 photograph, the homemade, steam-powered rocket built by daredevil/limosuine drive Mad Mike Hughes is shown on the property the man leases in Apple Valley, Cal. Hughes plans to launch the rocket Saturday over the ghost town of Amboy, Ca., at a speed of roughly 500 miles-per-hour. (Mad Mike Hughes via AP)
“This whole tech thing,” he said in the June interview. “I’m really behind the eight ball.”
That said, Hughes isn’t a totally unproven engineer. He set a Guinness World Record in 2002 for a limousine jump, according to Ars Technica, and has been building rockets for years, albeit with mixed results.
“Okay, Waldo. 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .!” someone yells in a test fire video from 2012.
There’s a brief hiss of boiling water, then . . . nothing. So Hughes walks up to the engine and pokes it with a stick, at which point a thick cloud of steam belches out toward the camera.
He built his first manned rocket in 2014, the AP reported, and managed to fly a quarter mile over Winkelman, Arizona.
As seen in a YouTube video, the flight ended with Hughes being dragged, moaning from the remains of the rocket. The injuries he suffered put him in a walker for two weeks, he said.
And the 2014 flight was only a quarter of the distance of Saturday’s mile-long attempt.
And it was based on round-earth technology.
Hughes only recently converted to flat-Eartherism, after struggling for months to raise funds for his follow-up flight over the Mojave.
It was originally scheduled for early 2016 in a Kickstarter campaign – “From Garage to Outer Space!” – that mentioned nothing about illuminati astronauts, and was themed after a NASCAR event.
“We want to do this and basically thumb our noses at all these billionaires trying to do this,” Hughes said, standing in his Apple Valley, California, living room, which he had plastered with drawings of his rockets.
“They have not put a man in space yet,” Hughes said. “There are 20 different space agencies here in America, and I’m the last person that’s put a man in a rocket and launched it.”
He compared himself to Evel Knievel, as he promised to launch himself from a California racetrack – the first step on his steam-powered leap toward space.
In this Saturday, Nov. 11, 2017, photograph, the flight suit of self-taught rocket scientist and limousine driver Mad Mike Hughes is shown at the rental property on which the man has constructed a steam-powered rocket in Apple Valley, Cal. Hughes plans to launch the rocket Saturday as a test of the conraption over the ghost town of Amboy, Cal. (Mad Mike Hughes via AP)
The Kickstarter raised $310 of its $150,000 goal.
Hughes made other pitches, including a plan to fly over Texas in a “SkyLimo.” But he complained to Ars Technica last year about the difficulty of funding his dreams on a chauffeur’s meager salary.
A year later, he called into a flat-earth community web show to announce he had become a recent convert.
“We were kind of looking for a new sponsors for this. And I’m a believer in the flat Earth,” Hughes said. “I researched it for several months.”
The host sounded impressed. Hughes had actually flown in a rocket, he noted, whereas astronauts were merely paid actors performing in front of a CGI globe.
“John Glenn and Neil Armstrong are Freemasons,” Hughes agreed. “Once you understand that, you understand the roots of the deception.”
The host talked of “Elon Musk’s fake reality,” and Hughes talked of “anti-Christ, Illuminati stuff.” After half an hour of this, the host told his 300-some listeners to back Hughes’s exploration of space.
While there is not single hypothesis for what the flat Earth is supposed to look like, many believers envision a flat disc ringed by sea ice, which naturally holds the oceans in.
What’s beyond the sea ice, if anything, remains to be discovered.
“We need an individual who’s not compromised by the government,” the host told Hughes. “And you could be that man.”
A flat-Earth GoFundMe subsequently raised nearly $8,000 for Hughes.
By November, the AP reported, his $20,000 rocket had a fancy coat of Rust-Oleum paint and “RESEARCH FLAT EARTH” inscribed on the side.
While his flat-Earth friends helped him finally get the thing built, the AP reported, Hughes will be making adjustments right up to Saturday’s launch.
He won’t be able to test the rocket before he climbs inside and attempts to steam himself at 500 mph across a mile of desert air. And even if it’s a success, he’s promised his backers an even riskier launch within the next year, into the space above the disc.
“It’s scary as hell,” Hughes told the AP. “But none of us are getting out of this world alive.”
This is true. Yet some may dare to fly beyond its edge.
Man to launch himself in homemade rocket to prove the earth is flat | Toronto Sun
 
OmegaOm
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This why our world is done. People like this who have no clue about the real world. They think everything is a conspiracy. Nasa is playing tricks with you. If they only would read a little history of science. They would know. Nasa does not own science. The conspiracy is the flat Earth theory and your lack of knowledge to immediately dismiss it as absurd.

2000 years ago Eratosthenes measured the circumference of the Earth very accurately with an ingenuous experiment. Read it yourself. And Columbus and all intellectuals since him new the Earth was round. You can prove it your self without going to space.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes

 
Danbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by spaminator View Post

Man to launch himself in homemade rocket to prove the earth is flat
Washington Post
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Warmin' up a future post for the darwin award thread are we

Interesting to note: with all the things going on, the WAPO would consider a flat earth as news.

Quote: Originally Posted by OmegaOm View Post

This why our world is done. People like this who have no clue about the real world. They think everything is a conspiracy. Nasa is playing tricks with you. If they only would read a little history of science. They would know. Nasa does not own science. The conspiracy is the flat Earth theory and your lack of knowledge to immediately dismiss it as absurd.

2000 years ago Eratosthenes measured the circumference of the Earth very accurately with an ingenuous experiment. Read it yourself. And Columbus and all intellectuals since him new the Earth was round. You can prove it your self without going to space.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes



The Working Celtic Cross
The Working Celtic Cross

LOL, man has known the world is round for the last 40,000 years - unless he is religious or educated.
Read your bible: "Yaway" made the earth flat
( that's "yaw" as in: not "roll", and not "pitch", (both ON course)... yaw = OFF COURSE )
 
OmegaOm
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Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

Warmin' up a future post for the darwin award thread are we

Interesting to note: with all the things going on, the WAPO would consider a flat earth as news.





The Working Celtic Cross
The Working Celtic Cross

LOL, man has known the world is round for the last 40,000 years - unless he is religious or educated.
Read your bible: "Yaway" made the earth flat
( that's "yaw" as in: not "roll", and not "pitch", (both ON course)... yaw = OFF COURSE )

I wouldnt be surprised if the really ancient humans new the Earth was round, especially for navigating seas. Another way you can see the Earth is round is just walking North or South and you will see different stars.

But this Celtic cross article (very interesting), while the instrument itself would be like the astrolab, being able to know time of day in your location your heading and latitude, but that article says it can calculate Longitude. Right there I do not trust everything there are saying. For Longitude you need a clock, so you know what time it is at a reference place so you can calculate how far east or west you are of it. That accurate clock that can keep time on a swaying ship was invented by John Harris in the 1700's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harrison
 
Danbones
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Maybe you ought to go take a closer look

and NO you DON'T need a clock to do longitude, you need to know the time
There is a difference
 
OmegaOm
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Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

and NO you DON'T need a clock to do longitude, you need to know the time
There is a difference

You don't absolutely need a clock. you can use the moons of Jupiter for example or if you have a satellite.
but you need to know how far away you are from a reference spot. If the sun is high and it is noon for you. It is not noon in China. You been sailing days away and each day noon will be a different time as was the previous day. After many days you have no idea what time it is currently at the spot you left. Unless you know exactly how far you traveled, east or west, which was not the case. So therefore you need to know what time it is at the spot you left, so you can use the celtic cross to find out what time of the day it is at your location and subtract that time from the time of the location you left. Given 24 hours for a complete circle of the Earth you can find how many degrees East or West you are from you home spot.
 
Danbones
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Well I already know how to navigate without a clock. I have given you more to start with then I started with.

Good luck

You will be surprised with what you will find out about everything if you look a little deeper.
 
OmegaOm
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Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

Well I already know how to navigate without a clock. I have given you more to start with then I started with.

Good luck

You will be surprised with what you will find out about everything if you look a little deeper.

No offence my friend. This forum is to debate things. I can not see how that cross can calculate longitude. History says it took John Harris's clock to figure it out. If I am missing something please fill me in.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by OmegaOm View Post

No offence my friend. This forum is to debate things. I can not see how that cross can calculate longitude. History says it took John Harris's clock to figure it out. If I am missing something please fill me in.

He's nuts.
 
spaminator
#21
‘Mad’ flat-Earther rocket scientist blasts off into California sky | Toronto Sun
 
Bar Sinister
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Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

Warmin' up a future post for the darwin award thread are we

Interesting to note: with all the things going on, the WAPO would consider a flat earth as news.





The Working Celtic Cross
The Working Celtic Cross

LOL, man has known the world is round for the last 40,000 years - unless he is religious or educated.
Read your bible: "Yaway" made the earth flat
( that's "yaw" as in: not "roll", and not "pitch", (both ON course)... yaw = OFF COURSE )

40,000 years ago? That's a big jump from Eratosthenes. Exactly what records did Cro-Magnon man take to record this knowledge?
 
Cliffy
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Blackleaf
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Meet Sleeping Warrior, the world's worst Flat Earther. My favourite bit is his video which attempts to show that gravity doesn't exist and it's all down to density.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u7GteV8oSXw
 
MHz
#25
Flat earth is a distraction to keep people from looking at the expanding earth theory closely. A lot of scientist would be fired after having to return the money ove publishing lies whild claiming it was thruth, arrived at after along and expensice investigation. The part about the conclusion being given before the money is handed over will not be found of course.
 
Curious Cdn
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What Do Flat-Earthers Think Is Going On During A Solar Eclipse?


A witch Hunt?
 
Jinentonix
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Meet Sleeping Warrior, the world's worst Flat Earther. My favourite bit is his video which attempts to show that gravity doesn't exist and it's all down to density.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u7GteV8oSXw

Not that he isn't a moron but, scientists still haven't figured out exactly what "gravity" is other than some kind of attracting force. That's why there's the Law of Gravity as well as the Theory of Gravity.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

Not that he isn't a moron but, scientists still haven't figured out exactly what "gravity" is other than some kind of attracting force. That's why there's the Law of Gravity as well as the Theory of Gravity.


We were taught (100 years ago) that every object has its own gravity field, even a marble!
 
JLM
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You gotta wonder why them flat earthers, having observed the sun and the moon, would think the shape of the earth is any different!
 
Jinentonix
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

You gotta wonder why them flat earthers, having observed the sun and the moon, would think the shape of the earth is any different!

They're flat and round just like the earth. And amazingly, their axes are perfectly aligned so that their flat side faces us all the time. And there's your proof that god created the universe.