Encana to moves to the U.S. - more job losses for Alberta


Cannuck
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#31
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Don't you have a water plant to set up on a Sask. FN with your buddy to do?

No. Why? Has Saskatistan finally decided to take a stab at indoor plumbing
 
B00Mer
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#32
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

You seem to be in the know so who does Boomer work for?

Cannuck is just a jealous idiot troll.

There are a lot of his kind in Alberta, he failed at life and he is so bitter and resentful of other people’s successes.

Jealousy is often a protective strategy fueled by more vulnerable feelings, such as worthlessness or feelings of inadequacy.

Describes Cannuck perfectly.

 
Cannuck
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#33
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

Cannuck is just a jealous idiot troll.


I think you meant “Jelus”
 
Curious Cdn
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#34
I listened to the CEO of Encana explaining his move and his accent is pure Yank. This "All Canadian Encana" bullshit is fake news. Calgary was a branch office for American investment interests and the whole story is being hyped by traitorous separatists (how about by Russian bloggers seeding discourse and division) to their own purposes.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#35
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

I listened to the CEO of Encana explaining his move and his accent is pure Yank. This "All Canadian Encana" bullshit is fake news. Calgary was a branch office for American investment interests and the whole story is being hyped by traitorous separatists (how about by Russian bloggers seeding discourse and division) to their own purposes.

Do you have a clue of how the feds screwed them over?
 
Curious Cdn
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#36
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Do you have a clue of how the feds screwed them over?

Do you have a clue that the Americans don't want Canadians to have a Canadian oil industry?

They just want your oil and they keep the jobs and profit.
 
Twin_Moose
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#37
Is that your way of saying no I don't know what happened?
 
captain morgan
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#38
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Do you have a clue of how the feds screwed them over?


Don't waste your time.. Buddy still thinks that it's all up hill from West to East and that shipping by tanker 1/2 around the world is cheaper than a pipeline
 
Curious Cdn
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#39
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Is that your way of saying no I don't know what happened?

I'll bet you a hundred bucks that Americans are fiddling with your pipeline building process so the the oil continues to flow south into the States at discount prices and so that it never, ever goes to China, instead.

It is "their" oil and they even often include it in assessments of US domestic oil reserves.

Don't get it, do you
 
captain morgan
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#40
CPP has a bunch of cash in Encana.


I suppose that you really ought to round-up your fellow inbreds, load 'em into the minivan and go string-up those traitorous dogs at CPP
 
Curious Cdn
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#41
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

CPP has a bunch of cash in Encana.
I suppose that you really ought to round-up your fellow inbreds, load 'em into the minivan and go string-up those traitorous dogs at CPP

We'll see if it stays there. Oil is becoming passe.
 
captain morgan
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#42
There's always a strong opportunity in Tesla!


 
Curious Cdn
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#43
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

There's always a strong opportunity in Tesla!

If they survive the start up period that they still seem to be in.


One thing is certain. If Tesla fails, another will take it's place then another and another. The only hope to grow oil is to grow the Earth's population but you are in a losing race with the technology that will eventually replace you.

Seen a lot of growth in the value of oil over the last decade?
 
Tecumsehsbones
#44
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

There's always a strong opportunity in Tesla!

There might be. FedEx needed to be capitalized three times. Seems to be doing OK now.

What's up with you, Cap? You're usually not like this.

Everything OK?
 
Curious Cdn
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#45
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

There might be. FedEx needed to be capitalized three times. Seems to be doing OK now.
What's up with you, Cap? You're usually not like this.
Everything OK?

The Calgary oil towers are emptying out and it's someone else's fault sez the rooti-tootin he-men.
 
captain morgan
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#46
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

If they survive the start up period that they still seem to be in.


Yeah, sure... tesla has been in it's 'start up' period for around 15 years now... Still no profits


Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

One thing is certain. If Tesla fails, another will take it's place then another and another.


Like Solyndra?



Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

The only hope to grow oil is to grow the Earth's population but you are in a losing race with the technology that will eventually replace you.


The 2 largest populations on the planet representing almost a third of the global pop can't get enough oil/gas and are clearly angling for as much as possible for the future


"Jamnagar refinery is the world’s largest oil refinery with an aggregate capacity of 1.24 million barrels per day (bpd). The refinery complex is located at Jamnagar in Gujarat, India. It is owned and operated by Reliance Industries. The refinery complex is spread across 7,500 acres and has more than 50 process units which refine the basic feedstock, crude oil to obtain various finished products."





Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Seen a lot of growth in the value of oil over the last decade?


The nature of the sector is cyclical, it's the way it always has been
 
Hoid
#47
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

CPP has a bunch of cash in Encana.

Stock is up on the news

Its a good business decision.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
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#48
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

I'll bet you a hundred bucks that Americans are fiddling with your pipeline building process so the the oil continues to flow south into the States at discount prices and so that it never, ever goes to China, instead.
It is "their" oil and they even often include it in assessments of US domestic oil reserves.
Don't get it, do you

Encana is Natural gas they have a different division for Oil, so sorry try again
 
captain morgan
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#49
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Stock is up on the news

Its a good business decision.


With tater tot at the helm, it was the only decision available.


... All the corp taxes will now go to benefiting Colorado and the US Feds, but don't forget, they will be still producing and selling CDN oil
 
Tecumsehsbones
#50
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

Like Solyndra?

Yeah, pretty much. Do you think that the failure of Solyndra doomed the solar-energy industry?

How about the failure of Studebaker? Did that kill off the automobile industry?
 
Hoid
#51
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

With tater tot at the helm, it was the only decision available.


... All the corp taxes will now go to benefiting Colorado and the US Feds, but don't forget, they will be still producing and selling CDN oil

I doubt they will be producing a whole lot of high cost oil.

nobody will be,
 
captain morgan
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#52
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Yeah, pretty much. Do you think that the failure of Solyndra doomed the solar-energy industry?

How about the failure of Studebaker? Did that kill off the automobile industry?


Never said that, but since you brought it up, Solyndra failed (in large part) due to the economics relative to the demand domestically and abroad... Put simply, the cost/benefit analysis could not justify their price compared to international competitors or (especially) alternatives like oil/gas, nuclear or coal.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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#53
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

Never said that, but since you brought it up, Solyndra failed (in large part) due to the economics relative to the demand domestically and abroad... Put simply, the cost/benefit analysis could not justify their price compared to international competitors or (especially) alternatives like oil/gas, nuclear or coal.

Quite true. Just as FedEx operated at such a deficit that it required re-capitalization twice before it took off.

You know, because you've already said, that energy will be an increasing mix of providers, with fossil shrinking as solar, wind, possibly nuclear, and sources that are now in the laboratory, or even merely theoretical stage, come online. And there will be government interference in the markets along the way, just as there has been with the development of rail, road, aviation, telecommunications, shipping, steel, and every other major industry in history. Why trouble yourself with the True Believers on either side of the issue?

I'm happy to talk with you about whether any particular measure is a good idea or a bad idea, but really, why bother with the trolls?
 
Curious Cdn
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#54
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Yeah, pretty much. Do you think that the failure of Solyndra doomed the solar-energy industry?
How about the failure of Studebaker? Did that kill off the automobile industry?

Forty years ago, Kodak was the colossus of the Imaging industry. Nobody was going to knock Big Yellow off of their stratospheric perch.
 
Hoid
#55
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

There's always a strong opportunity in Tesla!


Up a mere 1700% since 2010

Encana is an even worse performer than Husky.

If that's even possible
 
B00Mer
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#56
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

We'll see if it stays there. Oil is becoming passe.

Well thing in the USA and Canada are moving slower than in Norway, Germany and other Europe countries Hydrogen Fuel..

Hemp is being used more and Hydrogen cars.. which I strongly believe is the future..

Hydrogen car have the distance and Gasoline vehicle, cheaper to fuel and no pollution, just water.

http://www.scandinavianhydrogen.org/...s-scandinavia/

https://www.wired.com/2006/05/norways-hydroge/

https://www.greentechmedia.com/artic...gh-my-backyard

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BC_hydrogen_highway

I have $250,000+ invested in stocks with FuelCell Energy and Plug Power. It is the future.
 
Curious Cdn
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#57
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Encana is Natural gas they have a different division for Oil, so sorry try again

So, does that mean that my heating costs are going to go down because of the more efficient and profitable gas companies that are surviving up here?
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
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#58
With the wet harvest and the liquification plants coming online your gas prices are going up, still not what happened to Encana though
 
Curious Cdn
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#59
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

With the wet harvest and the liquification plants coming online your gas prices are going up, still not what happened to Encana though

Maybe, we can import LNG from overseas, instead.
 
captain morgan
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#60
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Quite true. Just as FedEx operated at such a deficit that it required re-capitalization twice before it took off.

You know, because you've already said, that energy will be an increasing mix of providers, with fossil shrinking as solar, wind, possibly nuclear, and sources that are now in the laboratory, or even merely theoretical stage, come online. And there will be government interference in the markets along the way, just as there has been with the development of rail, road, aviation, telecommunications, shipping, steel, and every other major industry in history. Why trouble yourself with the True Believers on either side of the issue?

I'm happy to talk with you about whether any particular measure is a good idea or a bad idea, but really, why bother with the trolls?


I hear ya on the trolls.


In terms of renewables and conversion to electricity, it's only an issue of 'when', not 'if'.


Storage is poised to be one of the big factors that will cause the 'when' to get into gear fully.... Another related issue that will rear-up will be infrastructure concerns relative to distribution of the far larger amounts of electricity to the end consumer.


I can't help but wonder what a city like London, Rome or Paris will do in order to accommodate this transition... Consider the hiccups that were experienced in transitioning from foot and horse traffic to vehicular useage. Hell some of the European cities have original lane ways (I know it's a poor choice of words) that remain barely accessible to small vehicles, I can't begin to imagine the engineering nightmare of a complex distribution network of cables to be set beneath the top side structures.


All in all though, a solution will evolve and likely a compact storage solution may in fact solve large elements of the distribution concerns that I have mentioned
 

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