In Yukon, Maxime Bernier pledges to 'abolish' Indian Act


Locutus
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Leadership candidate says consultation is needed, but the Indian Act keeps people in poverty

Conservative party leadership candidate Maxime Bernier is the latest to say the Indian Act "should be abolished."

At a stop in Whitehorse on Sunday, Bernier said he believes the current act keeps people in poverty.

"I think there's a way to be more efficient," he said to a group of about 25 people at the Kwanlin Dun Cultural Centre. "And there's a way to bring more economic growth on reserves and working with First Nations to bring more private investment."

Bernier says it's too early to say what should replace the act first written in 1876. He's pledging to consult on the matter.

"My policy will be based on respecting the treaties that we signed together. We'll have consultation. I don't have the solution to tell you. I am here to do consultation and next time I'll meet with First Nations leaders and we'll see what we can do," he said.

Bernier said he favours a system that would allow private ownership on what is now reserve land.

He said changes would not necessarily affect the level of federal funding, but would require "new treaties" to be signed and a changing of relationships.

"I want to think outside the box, with new principles. It would be status quo on the money right now, but we have to try [new] ways to deal with each other. And after that we'll see the impact. We have an obligation to respect the treaties we signed," he said.
Bernier acknowledged it would not be easy.



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In Yukon, Maxime Bernier pledges to 'abolish' Indian Act - North - CBC News
 
Curious Cdn
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Oh, what a good idea. The FN Chiefs won't like it, though as the Indian Act is the source of their power.
 
Machjo
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If we keep the Indian Act, we should change its name to the 'Everyone-Agrees-It-Must-Go-But-No-One-Agrees-What-To-Replace-It-With Act or the EAIMGBNOAWTRIW Act. Heck, practically every First Nation and PM since at least Pierre Trudeau has wanted to scrap it. Or we could just call it the Stalemate Act for short.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Machjo View Post

If we keep the Indian Act, we should change its name to the 'Everyone-Agrees-It-Must-Go-But-No-One-Agrees-What-To-Replace-It-With Act or the EAIMGBNOAWTRIW Act. Heck, practically every First Nation and PM since at least Pierre Trudeau has wanted to scrap it. Or we could just call it the Stalemate Act for short.

It is an ancient, colonial document that dates from Victoria's reign. Time to move on.
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

It is an ancient, colonial document that dates from Victoria's reign. Time to move on.

It's a catch-22. Parts of the Act protect First Nations, but most parts hurt First Nations. They want to scrap the parts that hurt them but keep the rest. Most politicians want to scrap the Act altogether. As a result, no agreement. Stalemate. No one likes it but no one can agree on how to scrap it.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Machjo View Post

It's a catch-22. Parts of the Act protect First Nations, but most parts hurt First Nations. They want to scrap the parts that hurt them but keep the rest. Most politicians want to scrap the Act altogether. As a result, no agreement. Stalemate. No one likes it but no one can agree on how to scrap it.

A century and a half later, we can all do a better job of negotiating something more modern that doesn't make Natives dependants of the State. It's easier for them to be so but it is very bad for them to be so.
 
Corduroy
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Maxime Bernier's new campaign slogan: "Failed Trudeau policies from the 60s!"
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Corduroy View Post

Maxime Bernier's new campaign slogan: "Failed Trudeau policies from the 60s!"

What? Wage and Price Controls, again?
 
Machjo
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Harper wanted to scrap it too. No one, not even First Nations, support the Indian Act. Conservatives and Liberals have tried to get rid of it too. They just can't agree on what to replace it with. The Stalemate Act.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
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About time someone is talking about this .

Quote: Originally Posted by Machjo View Post

Harper wanted to scrap it too. No one, not even First Nations, support the Indian Act. Conservatives and Liberals have tried to get rid of it too. They just can't agree on what to replace it with. The Stalemate Act.

The bureaucrats and lawyers love it though , and will fight tooth and nail to keep it intact .
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Machjo View Post

Harper wanted to scrap it too. No one, not even First Nations, support the Indian Act. Conservatives and Liberals have tried to get rid of it too. They just can't agree on what to replace it with. The Stalemate Act.

How about the : "You're All Grown Up, Now So Act Like It, Act".
 
personal touch
Bloc Québécois
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Hello yesterday
I don't know about this Maxine,strange bedfellows he keeps
 
Mowich
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Oh, what a good idea. The FN Chiefs won't like it, though as the Indian Act is the source of their power.

You just echoed my first thought, CC........and you are dead right about that.
 
personal touch
Bloc Québécois
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Idiots
Not open for discussion,unless updates or improvements
I hope the people of the Yukon kicked Maxine in his metro razz,
Eliminate the Act
Fake news
 
Cliffy
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White people telling Indians what's good for them.... nothing has changed since confederation.
 
personal touch
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

White people telling Indians what's good for them.... nothing has changed since confederation.

Then again ,avenues are opened by idiots,
Manipulation should run both ways
 
gerryh
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

White people telling Indians what's good for them.... nothing has changed since confederation.


Many "Indians" have counseled for the Indian Act to be abolished. Are you, as a "white man", telling them what they should do/have?
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

Many "Indians" have counseled for the Indian Act to be abolished. Are you, as a "white man", telling them what they should do/have?

No, it is up to them to decide their future. The road to oblivion lies in good intentions.
 
gerryh
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

No, it is up to them to decide their future. The road to oblivion lies in good intentions.



But...but....but...You just finished making the comment about "white men" and now your saying let them decide..... Maxime Bernier wants to do what the majority of First Nations want....... so... You want to make up your mind?
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

But...but....but...You just finished making the comment about "white men" and now your saying let them decide..... Maxime Bernier wants to do what the majority of First Nations want....... so... You want to make up your mind?

Why are you so obtuse? I was talking about all the white people on this form. I do not know one Indian who wants to just abandon the Indian Act. I doubt it is a majority, but again, it is none of my business and neither is it anybody else's on here.
 
gerryh
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Why are you so obtuse? I was talking about all the white people on this form. I do not know one Indian who wants to just abandon the Indian Act. I doubt it is a majority, but again, it is none of my business and neither is it anybody else's on here.


and yet, you act as if you speak for the First Nations people.


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Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Why are you so obtuse? I was talking about all the white people on this form. I do not know one Indian who wants to just abandon the Indian Act. I doubt it is a majority, but again, it is none of my business and neither is it anybody else's on here.

Yes. Yes it is our business as it is part of the legal fabric of our country and it concerns everybody.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Why are you so obtuse? I was talking about all the white people on this form. I do not know one Indian who wants to just abandon the Indian Act. I doubt it is a majority, but again, it is none of my business and neither is it anybody else's on here.

Because your extinct band is trying to get on the gravy train .
 
personal touch
Bloc Québécois
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Why?
There are patterns of thoughts on this forum,we have a flavour of the week happening
Recruit week?
 

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