80% of workers say managers are unnecessary


tay
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Eighty percent of employees say managers are unnecessary, a national survey on manager-employee relationships found.

The survey of more than 2,000 employees by Ultimate Software also found that 75 percent of employees say approachability is the most important quality in an effective manager, but only half of employees say they have an approachable manager.

For 93 percent of employees, trust in their direct boss is essential to staying satisfied at work, and over half of employees surveyed say that if they aren’t satisfied at work, they can’t put forth their best effort.

Ultimate Software, based in Weston, Florida, said the employee-manager relationship “matters a great deal when it comes to job satisfaction and retention.”

The survey, released Monday, is “a wake-up call for companies of all sizes to get serious about better training, coaching and guidance for managers, so these relationships remain strong,” said Adam Rogers, chief technology officer at Ultimate Software, which specializes in human resources software.

Jason Dorsey, president and co-founder of the Center for Generational Kinetics, a research organization in Austin, Texas, said the results “highlight the long-standing belief that people don’t leave companies, they leave managers.”

https://www.seattletimes.com/nwshowc...e-unnecessary/
 
Walter
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That’s why they’re workers.
 
Curious Cdn
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If they are good managers, you shouldn't notice that they're there. If they are heroic or blustering or generally in your face, they are not doing their job. They are probably doing someone elses'. Managers grease the skids. They don't push the boat down the skids.
 
Angstrom
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Maybe in low skill, low risk jobs.

But in high liability work environment, you need a supervisor.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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Middle managers are pretty useless.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

If they are good managers, you shouldn't notice that they're there. If they are heroic or blustering or generally in your face, they are not doing their job. They are probably doing someone elses'. Managers grease the skids. They don't push the boat down the skids.

 
taxslave
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Depends on the business. In areas where I work middle managers are essential because the plans change too often and someone has to do the paperwork and be accountable for both production and safety.
In the fire service we consider span of control as 3-5 people.
 
White_Unifier
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Quote: Originally Posted by tay View Post

Eighty percent of employees say managers are unnecessary, a national survey on manager-employee relationships found.

The survey of more than 2,000 employees by Ultimate Software also found that 75 percent of employees say approachability is the most important quality in an effective manager, but only half of employees say they have an approachable manager.

For 93 percent of employees, trust in their direct boss is essential to staying satisfied at work, and over half of employees surveyed say that if they aren’t satisfied at work, they can’t put forth their best effort.

Ultimate Software, based in Weston, Florida, said the employee-manager relationship “matters a great deal when it comes to job satisfaction and retention.”

The survey, released Monday, is “a wake-up call for companies of all sizes to get serious about better training, coaching and guidance for managers, so these relationships remain strong,” said Adam Rogers, chief technology officer at Ultimate Software, which specializes in human resources software.

Jason Dorsey, president and co-founder of the Center for Generational Kinetics, a research organization in Austin, Texas, said the results “highlight the long-standing belief that people don’t leave companies, they leave managers.”

https://www.seattletimes.com/nwshowc...e-unnecessary/

I'd like to see the results broken down by business. In some businesses, managers are absolutely necessary.
 
Hoid
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you know a poorly managed business the minute you come in contact with it.

home depot is perfect example.
 
Angstrom
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Management has become so bad across the board, that in some cases none would be beneficial. Good management is allways very useful. Unfortunately skilled Human Resources in management has become as rare as pope shit.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

you know a poorly managed business the minute you come in contact with it.

home depot is perfect example.

One of my biggest clients is a poorly managed company. Cripes, what a vipers nest! Bad attitude permeates the place and it starts all the way at the top and percolates all of the way down through the organization.

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

Mental ****ing midget ...you can't even manage your substandard thought processes.

Stupid Yank Tricks.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

Maybe in low skill, low risk jobs.

But in high liability work environment, you need a supervisor.


Actually having a manager nearby is more of a benefit than a liability! That way there is less chance of getting blamed when something goes wrong, or AT LEAST you have the satisfaction of being able to direct the blame!

Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

Management has become so bad across the board, that in some cases none would be beneficial. Good management is allways very useful. Unfortunately skilled Human Resources in management has become as rare as pope shit.


One fact I found quite prevalent in the work place is the worker knows more about what's going on than the manager. (The head nurse often knows more than the doctor)
 
Corduroy
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80% of workers should seize the means of production then.
 
Walter
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Quote: Originally Posted by Corduroy View Post

80% of workers should seize the means of production then.

Too funny.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Too funny.

You're an incompetent assh0le, Walter.

You probably couldn't run a lemonade stand. All hat ... No cattle, I'll bet ... just like your unemployed buddy, Eagle Snack.
 
Walter
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

You're an incompetent assh0le, Walter.

You probably couldn't run a lemonade stand. All hat ... No cattle, I'll bet ... just like your unemployed buddy, Eagle Snack.

Too funny.