Another proof religion is crap.


MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by Gilgamesh View Post

Actually DNA, genetics, & fossils show the camel originated in polar climates. Another proof religion is crap.

billion years ago
Day 1 ends 4BYA as stated is referencing this earth as it was when light was created. The source of that light was the sun and the state of the earth 4BYA is it was a small ball of molten lava and it's rotational speed was that 1 complete day was about 6 of our hours. Science also promotes the moon was a lot closer and about there science starts to get it wrong. Lava in a molten state on a fast spinning globe will be acting like a centrifuge in that heavier material will sink and the lighter material will rise to the surface. The lava sorts itself in layers that id dependent on density.
To help that along science also promotes the moon was a lot closer so there were tides of molten rock and since there was no solid parts yet the tide was endless and no winds as the heat from the lava melted anything incoming, clouds for things with a low melting point and heavier item came is a liquid rather than stone so it was a gentle growth and gravity was the only process at work for the next 3.6BY and the next part of the process begins.

This part is not something I have mentioned before in any detail. The counting system would put the start of day at 40,000,000,000BC as when the universe began to form. The void is mentioned as the beginning without matter as we know it. It is promoted that we are expanding at an increasing rate and that will continue. We will end up back in the same void that we came from. Our universe has a certain number of stars and if that number is increasing then we are getting hotter and hot things expand. At some point the trend will be that more stars will die than are born and we are still expanding and eventually no stars will be born and matter will be so far apart it cannot form something that attracts something else. Welcome to what we call a black hole. A collapsing universe has the mass centered on a certain part and that makes the places the weak link so collapse and density can only go so far and then it blows. Our big bang was probably something like the moon and earth only on a much bigger scale and it never reformed and it is like the asteroid belt but in the shape of a soccer ball one that is expanding at a faster and faster rate.

Day 2 ends 400MYA it sees a crust develop on the earth and it could have been caused when the heavier matter that was in the moon migrated towards the earth and the volcanoes spilled out the heavier metals and it migrated to the earth as cold matter than cooled the surface enough that a crust started to form and gasses could start to fall as liquid, very cold liquid. That day ends with water being found at the highest elevations of dry ground and that is where the next part of the process begins. Length is 360M years

Day 3 ends 40MYA it sees the forests being created. Trees are mentioned and the forest is an eco system that would have developed just like one does today. The other parts of the forest like birds and crawlers are mentioned later only because they are less important to the story rather than they were created by themselves later on. The process went on right until the end of the 6th day.
For the sake of argument water could just begin to collect in the deepest parts as they would have been the last parts to get cold. Forests would have reached down that far and the water that then fell brought the level up to where it is now. The vid 'snowball earth' could be quite close to what did happen and civilization would have started high and moved down as the ice melted and the expanding rifts would have collected the water.

Day 4 ends 4MYA and the sun and moon are finally given names and their purpose is created, they mark time as we know it as far as days/months/years go. Stars are mentioned last as they are the least important to the whole story. That being said that is when angelic beings live and when they go to their promised new heaven that leaves the universe empty and mankind just enters it at the end of Re:22. Universal salvation prophecises that all of mankind will enter that place. The ones that were alive for the 1,000 year reign make their home inside of New Jerusalem and the ones that are resurrected at the Great White Throne will make their homes outside of the city. All other flesh is also resurrected down to sparrows will also be resurrected once the worlds become homes to immortal beings who have the same mission as Adam and Eve.

Day 5 ends 400,000 and the oceans as we know them were created even if that process began at the end of day3. Whales are mentioned and that would indicate that birds fell into the water and over the period of a few million years they ditched the feather and moved the nose up the face. Being warm blooded and having the same spine motion shows the relationship. Ge:1 promotes 3 species, birds are top dog in the forest. whales are top dog of the seas, and man is top dog of the land animals.

Day 6 ends 40,000YA and it starts with Adam being created in the garden area as defined in the Ge:2 creation story. The Med Sea is the west border and it goes south as far as the Nile. It goes east two rivers to the east for that border and as far north as the middle river reaches. It is a watershed area and the size of the Jordan River in Eze:47 is how it would have flowed back when God and Adam were in the Garden naming things. Without water the seeds could not sprout as the rest of the planet named Eden was full of life already. Eve was the last thing God created and after that day ended nothing new could be created. What was created cannot be un-created but it's size can go as low as a remnant or thrive depending where you are in the book that goes into some detail about how sin is defeated in the end.

Day 7 ends 4,000BC Satan and other angels would have had access to all of Eden except for the Garden area and the ancient megaliths are a testament to their abilities to play with rock things. Man will have that same ability in the new earth portion of things. Megalith.org has a really nice library, part 38 is very impressive as far as showing the past cannot be like it is presently promoted.

The new earth would be the same process as it happened in the past. Because the God of Life is going to resurrect all flesh that was conceived in the time this earth will exist the beginning has to be accelerated even from the time the garden took compared to the rest of Eden.

God likes patterns Ge:1 is the Alpha and Re:21 is the Omega of the one being that sits on the Great White Throne, when He says, 'It is done.' He is referencing this earth as being labeled perfect rather than very good.

The 1,000 years will see the holy land go from being desolate to being like it would have if sin had never entered the garden. The restored Garden is where all the people who have been alive will be when Satan and all fallen angels are released and God sends them to the fiery lake the static population gets an escape. It is what is called the rapture but it comes at the end of the 1,000 year reign only. Here is the verse and there used to be a reward for a rapture verse in the Bible.

Isa:51:6:
Lift up your eyes to the heavens,
and look upon the earth beneath:
for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke,
and the earth shall wax old like a garment,
and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner:
but my salvation shall be for ever,
and my righteousness shall not be abolished.



Currently there are many Jews who want to nuke Damascus because of 1 verse in the OT, this is my explanation of why that is not what the book says at all.


Ezekiel:38 and the Gog war. Ezekiel:38 is for the 1,000 year reign and the 'battle' that comes when Satan and all remaining fallen angels in the Pit are released and joined by the ones whose bones are buried in a graveyard in Israel in Ezekiel:39.

The people that are there at the end of the chapter are the ones at the start of the chapter that complete the 7 year clean-up and the 7 months of gathering some bones and burying them in a special graveyard that has the name Gog attached to it. The bones belong to the 4 fallen angels that manifest into the 200M horsemen and it is by these being that the 12 Tribes are brought down to being just the 144,000. By the evening of the day Jesus returns and kills all sinners the whole House of Israel will be alive and standing in Israel.

If Gog does not exist until 7 years into the 1,000 year reign then they cannot be in a war at the start because part of the vials is the river of blood and that is the death of those angelic horsemen. There are a few clues in Eze:38 that it is the 1,000 years such as Jerusalem is an unwalled city during that time and it is only during that time that the people are living in safety for the first time. An earlier reference to Damascus being part of prophecy that you believe is happening either means you are working off materials somebody has handed you or you missed more than a passage or two of Scripture. The bones of men that dies as part of the return do not have their bones gathered and placed in the City of Gog.

Damascus is 1 Gentile city mentioned when all Gentile cities are also flattened. Jerusalem is the first one and it is hit with the same fire that God used on Sodom.

Re:16:17-21:
And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air;
and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven,
from the throne,
saying,
It is done.
And there were voices,
and thunders,
and lightnings;
and there was a great earthquake,
such as was not since men were upon the earth,
so mighty an earthquake,
and so great.
And the great city was divided into three parts,

and the cities of the nations fell:

and great Babylon came in remembrance before God,
to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
And every island fled away,
and the mountains were not found.
And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven,
every stone about the weight of a talent:
and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail;
for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

Jer:25:18:
To wit,
Jerusalem,
and the cities of Judah,
and the kings thereof,
and the princes thereof,
to make them a desolation,
an astonishment,
an hissing,
and a curse;
as it is this day;

Jer:25:26:
And all the kings of the north,
far and near,
one with another,
and all the kingdoms of the world,
which are upon the face of the earth:
and the king of Sheshach shall drink after them.

Jer:25:29:
For,
lo,
I begin to bring evil on the city which is called by my name,
and should ye be utterly unpunished?
Ye shall not be unpunished:
for I will call for a sword upon all the inhabitants of the earth,
saith the LORD of hosts.

Jer:25:32:
Thus saith the LORD of hosts,
Behold,
evil shall go forth from nation to nation,
and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.

Jer:25:33:
And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth:
they shall not be lamented,
neither gathered,
nor buried;
they shall be dung upon the ground.

Zec:14:2:
For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle;
and the city shall be taken,
and the houses rifled,
and the women ravished;
and half of the city shall go forth into captivity,
and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zec:14:3:
Then shall the LORD go forth,
and fight against those nations,
as when he fought in the day of battle.

M't:25:31:
When the Son of man shall come in his glory,
and all the holy angels with him,
then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
M't:25:32:
And before him shall be gathered all nations:
and he shall separate them one from another,
as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

All nations means all nations.
 
Walter
#2
Atheists are funny.
 
MHz
#3
. . . only until they meet God. You all set for that event Walnut??
 
DaSleeper
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Atheists are funny.

Don't tell me you actually read that long piece of gibberish?
 
Walter
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

Don't tell me you actually read that long piece of gibberish?

Thread title told me everything I needed to know.
 
MHz
#6
Then your reason for the visit was the troll in you being in control. No need to wonder why DipShit is here.
 
MHz
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

Don't tell me you actually read that long piece of gibberish?

So in your own person view the OT is nothing but gibberish yet the people who follow it are a gift to mankind, in your world.

That about sum it up??
 

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