Canada should unilaterally drop all tariffs and subsidies.


Hoid
#31
also singapore hong kong new zealand do not have economies that export 73% of their trade to the US. Or get 64% of their imports from the US.

Or share a border with the us.

of have long established trade relationships with the US.

or...
 
White_Unifier
#32
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

also singapore hong kong new zealand do not have economies that export 73% of their trade to the US. Or get 64% of their imports from the US.

Or share a border with the us.

of have long established trade relationships with the US.

or...

The US may have been a somewhat reliable trading partner until recently.

Remember that Trump ran on protectionism and was elected on protectionism. In other worse, he is in,fact acting on his mandate. This means too that Trump is less of a problem than his voter base. It's also nit a right or left issue. We could gave run into a similar problem with Sanders. Between Trump and Sanders, the US today has a large protectionist base and it won't likely just disaappear because we get rid if Trump.

The USA of today is not the USA if the past. It's still an important trading partner for us, but it is also debt-gießen and no longer represents the sane fraction of the world's wealth or GWP as it used to. Untethering ourselves from the US and unilaterally dropping all trade barriers would be painful at first, but it would also name us more resistant to growing US protectionism later on.

The US is not as reliable and predictable as it used to be and wants to close in on itself.

We could always start gruadually. For example, declare Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver, and Halifax Free Economic Zones and start from there. Once they'll face adapted, then add more municipatities and provinces until Canada becomes a Free Economic Zone.
 
Bar Sinister
#33
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

The US may have been a somewhat reliable trading partner until recently.

Remember that Trump ran on protectionism and was elected on protectionism. In other worse, he is in,fact acting on his mandate. This means too that Trump is less of a problem than his voter base. It's also nit a right or left issue. We could gave run into a similar problem with Sanders. Between Trump and Sanders, the US today has a large protectionist base and it won't likely just disaappear because we get rid if Trump.

The USA of today is not the USA if the past. It's still an important trading partner for us, but it is also debt-gießen and no longer represents the sane fraction of the world's wealth or GWP as it used to. Untethering ourselves from the US and unilaterally dropping all trade barriers would be painful at first, but it would also name us more resistant to growing US protectionism later on.

The US is not as reliable and predictable as it used to be and wants to close in on itself.

We could always start gruadually. For example, declare Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver, and Halifax Free Economic Zones and start from there. Once they'll face adapted, then add more municipatities and provinces until Canada becomes a Free Economic Zone.


There is a difference between Trump and almost every other prominent politician in the US and that is that Trump has no sense of honour or decency. I doubt very much if any other president would so flagrantly break long standing treaties.
 
pgs
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Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

There is a difference between Trump and almost every other prominent politician in the US and that is that Trump has no sense of honour or decency. I doubt very much if any other president would so flagrantly break long standing treaties.

Yes there is a difference, Trump doesn’t care about the media , and Trump isn’t a spineless waffle .
 
Bar Sinister
#35
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Yes there is a difference, Trump doesn’t care about the media , and Trump isn’t a spineless waffle .


Breaking international agreements has very little to do with having a spine and much more with not having a brain at the top of the spine. Trump appears to have early onset dementia, one symptom of which is an inability to judge the consequences of his actions.
 
JLM
#36
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

Singapore, Hong Kong, and New Zealand have unilaterally dropped trade barriers except for public-policy matters. Hong Kong for example still tariffs tobacco, alcohol, and fuel imports for public-health considerations.

Singapore and Hong Kong are wealthier than Canada on a per-capita basis. I don't know about New Zealand, but understand that has benefitted from unilatteral free trade too. How is that?

That would generally go without saying if Singapore and Hong Kong have any natural resources AT ALL. Canada's population density might be 10 people per square mile while these places have literally hundreds if not thousands per square mile. Just consider the ACTUAL cost of delivering a letter to Old Crow in the Yukon or the cost of delivering health care to Nunavut! Canada is likely the most expensive country in the world to maintain.

Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Yes there is a difference, Trump doesn’t care about the media , and Trump isn’t a spineless waffle .

One other thing you can pretty well bet the farm on. Trump has a hell of lot better idea how these trade negotiations are going to conclude than what Pretty Boy does!