BC oil pipeline

Cliffy
Free Thinker
#121
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Very valid point except for 1 small detail the legally elected Band council signed a deal to allow the pipeline to be constructed and operated on their territory like a White land owner.

The Band council has only jurisdiction over the reserve, not the territory. The territory comes under the jurisdiction of the hereditary chiefs. Without treaties or consent, the BC government and the Canadian government have no jurisdiction.
 
petros
+1
#122
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Are they going to stop American tankers and existing Canadian tankers from the Salish Sea ? Are they going to stop tankers from providing oil to Haida Gwai ? Didn’t think so .

Tanker traffic is low compared to the ever increasing cruise ship traffic.

I've heard zero complaints about the massive jump in cruise ship traffic purposely sailing the whale migration routes through the inside passage.

Is there a system in place to rescue 5000 people and clean up the mess if one of those puppies sinks in Canadian waters?

How do the containers full of fake Native art made in China that are sold to cruise ship tourists getting to Canada? Longboat?
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#123
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

The Band council has only jurisdiction over the reserve, not the territory. The territory comes under the jurisdiction of the hereditary chiefs. Without treaties or consent, the BC government and the Canadian government have no jurisdiction.

In their own opinion there Cliffy as stated in the articles I pasted
 
petros
+1
#124
Hereditary chiefs have no legal standing.

Nor does the pipe carrier or the medicine man but they sure charge out the ass for their so called "services".

If you want to see a priest or preacher it's free but a medicine man charges money and rakes it in.

The Feds paid $10s of millions to self declared medicine people to smudge people, wave magic eagle fedders and shake rattles after "arse money" was distributed.

I bet I could make a killing wafting away bad medicine with sage and a feather with this current reconciliation and 60's scoop paegent of propaganda.

Easy money ah.
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#125
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post


POOR STUPID CLIFFY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!


Twin Moose is RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There was a legal deal in place- voted on in democratic fashion by the bands concerned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


A deal that some loud mouth radicals CHOSE TO BREAK for their own selfish greed and hostility to whites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cdn govt expropriates chunks of land all the time for the community good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND PAYS GOOD MONEY FOR IT TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!



Its just too bad that hypocrites like Cliffy want to pretend it is white racism instead of naked greed AND DELIBERATE BLACKMAIL on the part of some native radicals that is the problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+2
#126
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Tanker traffic is low compared to the ever increasing cruise ship traffic.

I've heard zero complaints about the massive jump in cruise ship traffic purposely sailing the whale migration routes through the inside passage.

Is there a system in place to rescue 5000 people and clean up the mess if one of those puppies sinks in Canadian waters?

How do the containers full of fake Native art made in China that are sold to cruise ship tourists getting to Canada? Longboat?

And those cruise ships arrive in Vancouver wearing a whale on their bow on a semi regular basis .
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#127
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

The Band council has only jurisdiction over the reserve, not the territory. The territory comes under the jurisdiction of the hereditary chiefs. Without treaties or consent, the BC government and the Canadian government have no jurisdiction.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cliffy must be a hereditary chief!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


By the definitions Cliffy is throwing out- apparently hereditary is a native word meaning DELUDED AND MISS-GUIDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hereditary chiefs have the same sort of power, grace and influence over the tribe that the guy sweeping the astro turf has over the Blue Jays!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
MHz
#128
More like one has washing the other and the taxpayer is the 'mark' and the Indians are blamed fot Big Oil cancelling a program that would be a waste of money as Canada does not export to any country but the US.

https://therealnews.com/stories/outr...ndigenous-land

Outrage In Canada After Militarized RCMP Arrest 14 Wet’Suwet’en Land Defenders on Sovereign Indigenous Land

As The Real News reported last month, the Wet’suwet’en Indigenous people of Northern British Columbia and Canada have established checkpoints on their land to prevent pipeline company TransCanada from building a gas pipeline across their territory. The Wet’suwet’en people have never signed treaties with Canada or otherwise ceded their lands, a fact confirmed by Canada’s own Supreme Court in 1997 in a landmark decision known as Delgamuukw. Several days ago, members of the Aboriginal police liaison of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police met with the Wet’suwet’en hereditary chiefs and indicated the specially trained tactical forces would be deployed to forcibly remove Wet’suwet’en people from sovereign Wet’suwet’en territory. On Monday, January 7, indeed, armed police, some dressed in camouflage fatigues, broke down homemade barriers at a checkpoint on unceded Wet’suwet’en territory and arrested 14 land defenders. Following the arrests, and as reported by APTN News, hereditary Wet’suwet’en leaders pledged to keep fighting. Chief Madeek, Hereditary Leader of the Gitdumden Clan, declared that “We may have lost this battle, but not the war.” Upon learning of the arrests, civil society organizations from across Canada called for a series of cross-country series of protests in solidarity with the Wet’suwet’en people, and for the purpose of denouncing the Trudeau government’s heavy-handed tactics on the sovereign land of the Wet’suwet’en. Over 50 such protests took place across Canada on January 8.
For The Real News, I attended one such protest in Montreal outside the riding office of the Canadian prime minister himself, Justin Trudeau. During the protest I spoke to longtime activist Gary Engler, one of the protesters, about his reasons for supporting the struggle of the Wet’suwet’en people.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#129
All that doesn't matter the elected band council signed a deal to allow access
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
+3
#130
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

The one with the $ is the World Bank and the entity is 'Big Oil', the one on his knees is just about every nation on the planet that lets Big Oil runs the show. They prefer it to be like the KSA is running now and in the recent past rather than they are going to make the place a mirror of Kuwait.
Who would be the one that allows them to take the oil in Canada for pennies rather than he is swimming in money, that is for the owners of Big Oil.

Survey SAYS... BZZZZ yer a dumbass. Canadian oil is so de-valued because ALT-left f*ckheads like you keep protesting pipelines that would make our oil worth more. Christ, we can't even supply our own country because of ALT-left idiots like you.

And the fact that you've happily swallowed the propaganda from Russia, Saudi Arabia and Soros' Red Tide Foundation about how evil Alberta oil is says a LOT about the type of sub-moronic, half-witted, inbred troglodyte you are.
 
petros
+1
#131
Legally elected Chiefs aren't the "Indian way".
 
petros
+3
#132
Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

Survey SAYS... BZZZZ yer a dumbass. Canadian oil is so de-valued because ALT-left f*ckheads like you keep protesting a pipelines that would make our oil worth more. Christ, we can't even supply our own country because of ALT-left idiots like you.
And the fact that you've happily swallowed the propaganda from Russia, Saudi Arabia and Soros' Red Tide Foundation about how evil Alberta oil is says a LOT about the type of sub-moronic, half-witted, inbred troglodyte you are.

American funded ALT-Left f-ckheads.
 
MHz
#133
Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

Survey SAYS... BZZZZ yer a dumbass. Canadian oil is so de-valued because ALT-left f*ckheads like you keep protesting pipelines that would make our oil worth more. Christ, we can't even supply our own country because of ALT-left idiots like you.

Hope you aren't offended when I say, 'Well done.'
 
MHz
#134
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Legally elected Chiefs aren't the "Indian way".

The ones that accepted the Whiteman's ways of doing things get rejected by the band as well as being the first one to be stabbed in the back by his 'new business partners'. If you want to see who can be bribed look at the ones outside the band, starting with the ones who have been hired to give them expert advice and all it does is make things worse and cost them a great deal of money.


In this case there never was a lone going in as it was sold as hope that Russia and the EU would nit be business partners. The same day a new deal had been reached and the pipelines were back at work the pipeline in Canada deal fell through. There never was a deal, it was false hope for the sheeple in Canada. That is why there was no smell test from the collective here.

I wonder how much they made for protesting??
 
spilledthebeer
#135
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

More like one has washing the other and the taxpayer is the 'mark' and the Indians are blamed fot Big Oil cancelling a program that would be a waste of money as Canada does not export to any country but the US.

https://therealnews.com/stories/outr...ndigenous-land

Outrage In Canada After Militarized RCMP Arrest 14 Wet’Suwet’en Land Defenders on Sovereign Indigenous Land

As The Real News reported last month, the Wet’suwet’en Indigenous people of Northern British Columbia and Canada have established checkpoints on their land to prevent pipeline company TransCanada from building a gas pipeline across their territory. The Wet’suwet’en people have never signed treaties with Canada or otherwise ceded their lands, a fact confirmed by Canada’s own Supreme Court in 1997 in a landmark decision known as Delgamuukw. Several days ago, members of the Aboriginal police liaison of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police met with the Wet’suwet’en hereditary chiefs and indicated the specially trained tactical forces would be deployed to forcibly remove Wet’suwet’en people from sovereign Wet’suwet’en territory. On Monday, January 7, indeed, armed police, some dressed in camouflage fatigues, broke down homemade barriers at a checkpoint on unceded Wet’suwet’en territory and arrested 14 land defenders. Following the arrests, and as reported by APTN News, hereditary Wet’suwet’en leaders pledged to keep fighting. Chief Madeek, Hereditary Leader of the Gitdumden Clan, declared that “We may have lost this battle, but not the war.” Upon learning of the arrests, civil society organizations from across Canada called for a series of cross-country series of protests in solidarity with the Wet’suwet’en people, and for the purpose of denouncing the Trudeau government’s heavy-handed tactics on the sovereign land of the Wet’suwet’en. Over 50 such protests took place across Canada on January 8.
For The Real News, I attended one such protest in Montreal outside the riding office of the Canadian prime minister himself, Justin Trudeau. During the protest I spoke to longtime activist Gary Engler, one of the protesters, about his reasons for supporting the struggle of the Wet’suwet’en people.


POOR STUPID MHz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


He does not understand that the ONLY REASON Cdn oil is not exported to countries other than United States is because LIE-BERALS do not allow it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Here is an article illustrating what a foolish air head our federal Climate Minister McKenna is! No wonder she is scornfully referred to as “Climate Barbie”! And just like her plastic toy namesake- she DOES NOT come with any accessories! The public must pay EXTRA for all the carbon credits that Climate Barbie needs to play well!

The article has some comments of my own in brackets):

Minister wrong on carbon pricing and growth in Ontario

By Ben Eisen

Published: October 23, 2018. Updated: October 23, 2018 6:31 PM EDT

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Columnists

This week, the Trudeau government announced plans to impose a carbon tax on provinces (including Ontario) whose governments are not currently planning to implement a tax themselves.

Prior to the announcement, Climate Change Minister Catherine McKenna tweeted her criticism of the Ford government in Ontario for being one of the provincial governments not implementing its own carbon price.

Specifically, she blasted the Ford government’s decision to scrap the cap-and-trade program — implement by former premier Kathleen Wynne which would have made a federal tax in Ontario unnecessary under Ottawa’s rules — claiming the decision would hurt Ontario’s economic growth prospects.

(Cdn LIE-berals are like Soviet dictators- rhey cannot tolerate ANY DISSENT from party orthodoxy! That the public recognizes that LIE-beral carbon taxes only cleans cash from wallets and leaves the dirt in the air simply encourages LIE-berals to spew more deceptive propaganda to defend their hypocrite position!)

McKenna told the Ford government “if you don’t have a plan to fight climate change, you don’t have a plan to grow the economy.” In short, McKenna suggests that taxing carbon emissions helps the economy grow and, in fact, that doing so is essential for a viable economic strategy.

(LIE-berals have yet to explain how making it hard to heat houses in winter or get fruit and vegetables trucked into Canada in winter will grow our economy! Nor have LIE-berals explained how looting tax payers with carbon crap deals- so they have no money to save for old age- will benefit the public in any real way!)

(That ALL the carbon crap tax revenue is being given to civil service union Hogs to buy their votes for LIE-berals- is seen by the public as nothing more than MASSIVE LIE-beral GREED!)

The minister is simply factually incorrect on this point. There’s no compelling evidence that carbon taxes, cap-and-trade or similar policies would help accelerate economic growth in Ontario, let alone that such policies are necessary for a successful growth strategy. In fact, the best available evidence suggests, holding all else equal, that carbon pricing would slow the rate of economic growth — not speed it up.

Consider a recent report from Canada’s Ecofiscal Commission, one of the leading proponents of carbon pricing, which finds that no matter how you slice it, a carbon price will slow the rate of economic growth relative to no new action on emissions. According to the same report, this slowdown could be substantially mitigated by choosing the most economically-efficient way to recycle the revenue from carbon pricing (i.e. cut corporate taxes), but the directional effect is still downward.

(Cut corporate taxes? The horror! LIE-berals want corporate taxes RAISED so that LIE-berals will have new sources of revenue to pay for the hordes of illegals they are bringing into Canada- with most of the illegals being in dire need of long term govt aid if they are to survive here!)

(But LIE-berals are so desperate or votes they are willing to promise anything now and figure out how to PAY LATER! Civil service Hogs are enraged that illegals are eating into the supply of govt gravy that Hogs claim as their own- hence the frantic short term need for new revenue- at any long term cost!)

What’s more, historical evidence from Canada suggests governments are unlikely to actually employ the most economically-efficient revenue recycling options, choosing instead to use the money to issue rebates that don’t influence economic incentives and/or to fund “green” initiatives.

(LIE-berals are caught in their own hypocrisy! Civil service Hogs EXPECT to be immune to the lief style limiting effects of a crbon tax! So as carbon taxes drive up the cost of everything- the already HUGE Hog demand for more gravy grows even faster and it is Hog greed that is driving all govt debts!)

(As the most wealthy members of Cdn society- Hogs also have the generally largest carbon foot prints- and since one Cdn in three works for govt- the need for Hog gravy is crippling our economy!)

(LIE-berals have issued IMMENSE pension IOU`s to Hogs- fifty five Billion dollars to OSSTF- our Ontari-owe high school teachers- with EIGHTEEN other Ontari-owe unions waiting or their promised gravy! The consider the many hundreds of billions- YES- BILLIONS - of dollars in pension promises made by the other levels of govt to their respective union Hogs and it is easy to see why LIE-berals desperately need new revenue!)

Indeed, the Trudeau government’s new plan for revenue recycling relies on rebates to households instead of reductions in tax rates, which would do more to reduce the economic costs of carbon pricing. But make no mistake — even with the very best revenue recycling options, the preponderance of evidence suggests pricing carbon in Ontario would still negatively affect economic growth.

(Even in this rebate idea- which is a LIE-beral recognition of public hostility to their carbon crap- LIE-berals scheme to get ahead! By creating a new bureaucracy to hand out the rebates- they create more work for their Hog allies- who will depend utterly on LIE-berals for their jobs! It is vote buying on a shameless scale!)

None of this is to say moderate carbon pricing is inconsistent with economic growth in Ontario, but the minister’s suggestion—that it’s necessary for robust growth—is simply wrong. Ontario’s economy can grow with or without a price on carbon, and the best evidence suggests it will grow faster without one.

(A tax is a tax- and we do need to pay some tax- but there is the deal- we are being crippled by taxes that are reaching beyond what we can pay! One has only to look at our rising debts and crumbling infrastructure to recognize we do not have enough money to indulge LIE-berals as they desire! If our economy is booming as LIE-berals claim- then why is there so much debt?)

The arguments for and against carbon pricing should be based on facts and data — not hyperbolic and flatly incorrect claims on Twitter. Given McKenna’s position and stature, and the weight attached by so many to her words, she should correct the record on this point.

(Every point made by the likes of Climate Barbie is selected specifically to support grossly selfish LIE-beral policy that is focused only on getting re-elected at any price! LIE-berals care only about the here and now- they figure tomorrow can look after its own debts!)

Ben Eisen is a senior fellow with the Fraser Institute’s Ontario Prosperity Initiative.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+2
#136
To be honest STB it was more like US policy that wouldn't allow us to sell our Oil overseas, Until the NAFTA II is signed into law 60% of Canadian oil must be available to the US for national security. Remember the old slogan "US Oil independence must include Canadian Oil" We ae now seeing the signs of US Oil reserves by the discounting of Canadian Oil on the Brent. Now there is a lot of money to be made by US Oil marketers so it is important to them to keep our Oil landlocked.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+2
#137
Nearly 6 in 10 Canadians call lack of new pipeline capacity a 'crisis,' poll suggests

Guess which 2 provinces don't see it as a crises
 
spilledthebeer
#138
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

To be honest STB it was more like US policy that wouldn't allow us to sell our Oil overseas, Until the NAFTA II is signed into law 60% of Canadian oil must be available to the US for national security. Remember the old slogan "US Oil independence must include Canadian Oil" We are now seeing the signs of US Oil reserves by the discounting of Canadian Oil on the Brent. Now there is a lot of money to be made by US Oil marketers so it is important to them to keep our Oil landlocked.


Sorry Moose- I am a bit skeptical of your comments on Yankee policy.......................



Seeing as there is an over supply of oil at this time in central North America thanks mainly to more sophisticated Yankee extraction techniques and thanks also to more fuel efficient cars- it seems logical to put aside certain details of OLD oil agreements....................Yankees can hardly complain if we chose to sell oil that they dont want in other markets!!!!


And I doubt very much that there is anything in the old NAFTA Agreement that could legally force Cdns to keep the oil in the ground until Yankees decide they might want to use some of it!!!


Nor can Yankees generally complain if we sell "surplus" oil on world markets AT HIGHER PRICES than Yankees are paying!!!!


Especially when that extra revenue ends up back in Yankee hands as interest payments on our govt debts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


After all- Yankee bond rating services have just down graded the Ontari-owe debt as the full import of Wynne-bag spending madness sinks in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yankees are suddenly aware of the FOUR YEAR contracts Wynne-bag signed with Hogs just before being tossed from office!!!!!!!


Wynne-bag has tied Fords hands with those contracts- Ford needs 2 percent larger budgets in each year of his term to meet the contracts signed by LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our ENTIRE govt NEEDS more revenue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



But of course getting that revenue would require effort- and alteration of values on the part of Our idiot Boy Justin and his loser LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And LIE-berals prefer to put their effort into KILLING the Cdn oil patch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And how hard would it be to get Yankee agreement on Cdn oil exports anyway?????????????


Assuming there is anything in OLD NAFTA to explicitly restrict Cdn exports?????????????????



Kinder Morgan is a Yankee based company and we know that Washington LIKES TO SEE Yankee companies flourish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Kinder Morgan EXPECTED TO PROFIT from their pipeline- you dont spend $7 billion dollars on something jst to use it for 6 months!



That Kinder Morgan line was a LONG TERM MULTI YEAR plan that clearly indicates no real Yankee opposition to Cdn oil exports!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



So the idea that Yankees are restricting Cdn oil exports does not sound logical!!!



In addition, we witnessed Trump lambast German Chancellor Merkel for signing that natural gas deal with Putin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Trump pointed out- correctly in my view- that German cash in now flowing to militant Moscow and that cash will be used to build up the RED Army!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Trump would prefer if a whole lot of people bought Cdn oil and gas INSTEAD of the Russian product- so there is another reason - a national security reason- for Yankees not to interfere with Cdn exports!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Further- we know that Trump has taken heat from environmentalists regarding his thoughts on global warming and we know that environmentalists consider coal to be MUCH DIRTIER than natural gas- and we know that China is trying to move away from burning coal from Australia and switch over to burning natural gas- if they can get a reliable supply at decent price!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So - more room for negotiation and changes - if needed!!!!!!!!!!


Surely Trump WOULD NOT want to be seen as the bogey man forcing China to keep burning coal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


However there are other players in this oil mess- as I have said before- there are environmentalists who think that Canada is an easier mark than Yankee govt- especially since the election of Our idiot Boy and the environmentalists are targeting Cdn oil sands and ignoring Yankee and Venezuelan tar sand operations!!!!!!!!!!!


And there is a Yankee element that would prefer to see Cdn oil patch shut down so it will make THEIR OIL PATCH more valuable!!!!!!!!


And of course Yankee govt DOES NOT want to see it`s people completely at the mercy of corporate price gougers who have used political BRIBERY to deliberately restrict supplies by closing down suppliers in Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!



Such a tangled web of competing desires!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But the KEY COMPONENT was Kinder Morgan setting up their pipeline to export Cdn oil to world markets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Kinder Morgan action indicates clearly that there is NO substantial Yankee opposition to Cdns exporting oil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The only real opposition to the Cdn oil patch is from our own IDIOT prim minister and his LIE-beral losers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#139
NAFTA’s dirty secret: it lets U.S. control our oil: McQuaig

NAFTA Energy Clause Draws Criticism From Canadian Voices On The Right And Left

I'm not going to dig deeper for you STB these 2 articles will give you the gest of my post
 
spilledthebeer
#140
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

NAFTA’s dirty secret: it lets U.S. control our oil: McQuaig

NAFTA Energy Clause Draws Criticism From Canadian Voices On The Right And Left

I'm not going to dig deeper for you STB these 2 articles will give you the gest of my post


You are wasting your time Moose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There is NOTHING TO DIG FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And you have no true oil position!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



That HUGE EGOTIST BRIAN MULRONEY SOLD US OUT because he figured he could keep in power by spending even more money and buying more votes than Pierre Trudeau LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sadly- Mulroney hit the debt wall- that would be the SAME DEBT WALL that ruined Wynne-bag Ontari-owe LIE-berals and is over shadowing the election chances of Our idiot Boy Justin and his federal LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



It is the standard CHILDISH Cdn CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Run up huge debts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hit the debt wall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


Roll over the debt and consolidate by electing Conservatives to get the finances under a semblance of control- then ELECT MORE WASTEFUL LIE-BERALS to wreck things again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In the Mulroney case- he was dumped and LIE-beral Chretien took over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Chretien "solved" our debt problem by making major cuts to provincial transfers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Chretien LIE-berals got themselves out of trouble by SIMPLY TRANSFERRING THE DEBTS to the provinces!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It has been the SAME GOVT SOLUTION FOR 150 years- every time Cdn govt feels financially pressured they SELL OFF A CHUNK OF CANADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


General Motors got govt money in 1910- yeah 120 years ago corporate welfare was ALIVE AND WELL in Canada- to expand its facilities in Oshawa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Of course it wasnt called GM back then- it was only McLaughlin Buick then - but you get the point- it is LONG TERM govt policy to throw money at multi national corporations to BUY jobs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And each SALE erodes some of our national security!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THERE IS A PRICE - if you want to be a parasite freely feeding on the Yankee economy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THERE IS A PRICE - as Brian Mulroney found out- if you want to BORROW HUGE AMOUNTS OF YANKEE CASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Mulroney hit the debt wall and HAD TO OFFER UP COLLATERAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just like any other DEADBEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


Hence the NAFTA DEAL- including some GUARANTEES that Canada WOULD PAY its debts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And when Chretien LIE-berals made such a debt riddled MESS of our economy that the Cdn dollar dropped to 63 cents U.S. it made MORE MESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Over 60 percent of the ENTIRE NATIONAL DEBT- MEANING ALL LEVELS OF OUR GOVT- is held by foreigners and the debt has to be paid in Yankee dollars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And at 63 cents Cdn per Yankee dollar WE WERE STRUGGLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


No doubt you will recall that Chretien PROMISED TO KILL NAFTA if he was elected!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But HE RENEGED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


LIE-berals have dig us in so deep they are no more willing than Mulroney to make the HARD CHOICES regarding how to buy back our country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


NOBODY WANTS to head over to civil service union Hog headquarters and tell them: YOUR SOLID GOLD PENSIONS ARE DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NOBODY wants to head down to "not so affordable housing" headquarters and tell the tenants: you are all being moved to small towns were the RENTS ARE WAY CHEAPER and the buildings are in better shape and make up your minds quickly about what you want to do because the bulldozers will be arriving SOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NOBODY wants to tell the Cdn arts community: YOU AINT GETTING ANOTHER PENNY FROM GOVT- oh- and your "art" is shitty anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NOBODY wants to go down to Black Lives Matter headquarters and tell them : NO MORE GRANTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Same thing for Idle No More natives- NO MORE GRANTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If you want to be careless with money and live in a dream world and borrow money wildly without a concern for the future as too many LIE-beral govts have done- THEN THERE IS A PRICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If the Cdn govt will not police Canada properly then the FBI WILL DO it for us- but there IS A PRICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And ALL THE BIG TERROR EVENTS that were thwarted BEFORE being implemented were discovered by FBI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


FBI STANDS ON GUARD FOR US better than Cdn cops are allowed to by LIE-beral govt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



If Cdns refuse to have a military and demand that Yankees protect us from ALL ENEMIES - then they will- BUT THERE IS A PRICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



IF you want to integrate the Cdn economy with its Yankee counterpart as generations of Cdn politicians have sought to do- and I remind you that Ottawa TRIED to negotiate a free trade agreement with Ottawa in 1900 and the Yankees turned Ottawa down- then there are certain prices to be paid!!!!!!!!!


As evidence that your remarks about Yankee restrictions on Cdn oil exports are wrong headed and ill considered - I point AGAIN to the TRUTH- that it is YANKEE CORPORATION KINDER MORGAN THAT WAS BUILDING THE EXPORT PIPELINE -until the LIE-beral govt of Our idiot Boy decided there were votes to be won by BLOCKING THE PIPELINE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If Yankees have so very much power and control over the Cdn oil patch and want to HOG all the oil for themselves- then how is it that Kinder Morgan Yankees are the ones TRYING to export Alberta oil and it is Canadian LIE-berals doing the blocking??????????????



LIE-beral loving - Fake News Purveyors like Linda McQuaig says Yankees have control of Cdn oil fields -but it looks to me as if British Columbia natives and Ottawa LIE-berals are doing the CONTROLLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


To those who dont like the current NAFTA DEAL with Yankees and want to CHANGE IT - I say this:


First STOP voting LIE-beral and stop running up massive debts to Hogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Second- start making honest efforts to PAY DOWN THE DEBT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This will mean no more gravy for Hogs - their greed is breaking our economy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thirdly- BLOCK THE BORDER to any more illegals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WE dont know who they are or where they came from- all we know is that they came through United States and Yankees are afraid of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And we cannot afford more internationally sourced charity cases anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



If we want happy relations with Yankees then we must not do things that worry them- such as become a happy haven for international criminals and money launderers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Fourth- we need to hire LOTS OF COPS to make REAL EFFORTS to seek out the criminals among us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Isis has boasted that some of their agents entered the west along with Muslim refugees- and while I accept that Isis is EXAGGERATING THE NUMBERS- there is no reason NOT TO ASSUME there ARE SOME Isis agents among us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And there is NO REASON NOT TO ASSUME RETURNING ISIS FIGHTERS might make trouble in the future as well- and if you want FBI to catch them for us then THERE WILL BE A PRICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Fifth- we need some real effort to deal with crime- both white collar and street crime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yankees used to be reassured by our peaceful/ low crime cities but not any more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yankees see the urban ROT settling into Canada just like it has in other countries and they dont want it spilling over the border!!!!!!!!!!


Yankee customs just arrested two members of NOTORIOUS MS-13 drug cartel- CARRYING BRAND NEW CDN PASSPORTS as they tried to enter United States!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Yankees HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN the Cdn Muslim arrested 20 years ago at the border with a car trunk full of explosives that he planned to park under the World Trade Centre WITH THE FUSE LIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yankees view Our idiot Boy and his choice to send Cdn AID TO TERROR GROUP HAMAS with deep suspicion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yankees are asking: "WHICH SIDE ARE THE CDNS NOW ON"????????????????????????



Sixth- we do not need and cannot afford to have all the military toys that United States and Russia and China have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But the ugly truth is that Canada HAS NEVER SPENT SO LITTLE ON DEFENSE AS the govt of Our idiot Boy is doing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Cdn air force is worn out- with metal fatigued air frames making the fighters increasingly dangerous to fly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Such weapons as the air force possesses are aging if not obsolete!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The army has RUSTED OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It was during the Chretien era that Transport Canada ORDERED the military to stop moving its rickety old towed artillery on public roads!!!!!!!!!!


Most Cdn military transport was either worn out or obsolete- or both - not even the poverty stricken Afghan national army wanted our Iltis Jeeps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We have 60 Leopard tanks that are so old and obsolete our LIE-beral govt cannot EVEN GIVE THEM AWAY- for the cost of the shipping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our navy NO LONGER has a single destroyer capable of crossing the Atlantic Ocean!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The flagship of the Cdn Atlantic Fleet was scheduled to go on NATO exercises in the Black Sea during the first stage of the Russian invasion of Crimea- and the aging ship engines caught fire twice and it was towed home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The flagship was then sent on a tour to show the flag in various Carribean islands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the ship is so old and rotten that it cannot cruise the Carribean Sea on a sunny afternoon without MORE FIRES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And yes- we still have some frigates - and one of them took part in a NATO exercise off the coast of Norway- and had to be towed to port after an engine fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The handwriting is on the wall for our rusted out military!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If you want to assert Cdn sovereignty then DO SOMETHING HONEST to support our independence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


AND WHINING ABOUT NON EXISTENT YANKEE BULLYING OVER OIL IS NOT BEING INDEPENDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Whining over DELIBERATELY MISS-INTERPRETED SECTIONS OF NAFTA IS SIMPLY CHILDISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#141
Sorry STB you are reaching when you say I know nothing about Oil or my stance on it, I was just pointing these things out to you to make your statements a little bit more factual, that's all.
 
MHz
#142
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

POOR STUPID MHz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


He does not understand that the ONLY REASON Cdn oil is not exported to countries other than United States is because LIE-BERALS do not allow it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Really?? Tell me more.
 
B00Mer
No Party Affiliation
+1
#143
Build the pipeline right through Hogans house.. the stupid prick.
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#144
CN Rail, First Nation plan to break ground on new 'bitumen puck' facility this year

$50M facility designed to export bitumen without the risk of an oil spill




As a puck made of oilsands bitumen was tossed into the air, railway executive James Auld joked, "we almost had an oil spill there."
Auld and other officials were upbeat as they gave their first public presentation on the pucks — a solid product similar to coal that can float in water.
CN Rail and an Alberta First Nation want to start building a new facility to produce bitumen pucks this year and begin shipping the product around the world before the end of 2020.
They made the announcement following their presentation at the Indian Resource Council conference in Calgary on Thursday.
Bitumen pucks are the common term for CanaPux, which have been developed by the railway company and Wapahki Energy, a business owned by Heart Lake First Nation. The community is located about 300 kilometres northeast of Edmonton.


More: https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/cn-...apux-1.4982153
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#145
We don't need no stinkin' pipeline.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+2
#146
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

We don't need no stinkin' pipeline.

Bet you would be crying a different tune when the natural gas pipeline to your facility gets turned off .
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#147
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Bet you would be crying a different tune when the natural gas pipeline to your facility gets turned off .

And when we start rationing , the first to get turned off will be the informed , the old and the useless . Don’t you resemble all three ?
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#148
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

And when we start rationing , the first to get turned off will be the informed , the old and the useless . Don’t you resemble all three ?

Interned .
 
spilledthebeer
#149
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Sorry STB you are reaching when you say I know nothing about Oil or my stance on it, I was just pointing these things out to you to make your statements a little bit more factual, that's all.



Oh Moose!!!!!!!!


I did not say you knew nothing about oil issues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I merely pointed out that your position on Cdn oil exports -which is apparently based on Linda McQuaig propaganda- is off base!



Consider:






What you want to consider is the amount of infrastructure and the COST of infrastructure needed to set up s major oil supply in the first place!

Yankees wanted some sort of guarantee that Soviet loving Socialist Swine like Pierre Trudeau or his idiot son Justin would not turn around and decide to sell the oil to China or to nationalize the industry and turn it into a costly MESS like Pierre did with Petro Canada!!!!!!!!

I suggest you read some of the fine print in Pierre`s NASTY National Energy Policy! The NEP created CHAOS in Alberta! Massive unemployment in only 6 months- and major reductions in corporate investment! Pierre wanted the oil KEPT IN THE GROUND! If it stays in the ground then Yankees CANNOT profit from it!!! And Our PET HATED YANKEES- just like his idiot son!!!!!!!!!!!!

McQuaig wants to convince us that Yankees can turn off the oil on a whim and it just is not so! McQuaig is a vile hard core socialist at heart! Have you not read any of her books? She is an inspiration for nutjobs like NdPer Bob Rae! McQuaig is convinced that govt has only to borrow enough money to make us all rich!!!!!!

Yankees had good reason NOT to trust Pierre Trudeau on ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!
And since they are DEFENDING CANADA anyway- it is sensible to ask for some sort of commitments in return - in the form of SOME oil resources at least!

That oil “deal” you are so afraid of would ONLY have been triggered in the event of World War THREE! And if that happened most Cdns would have happily GIVEN the oil to keep those Yankee planes flying and kept those Yankee ships sailing- to DEFEND US!

But Pierre Trudeau WAS NOT one who thought that way!!!!!! At the height of the Cold War- with Soviet Union daily making threats of “smash and grab” raids on western Europe- Our Pet wanted to UNILATERALLY DISARM CANADA and take us out of NATO!!!!!!!!!

Yes- just FIRE all the Cdn military and SCRAP their weapons! Because in the mind of Our Pet- IT WAS YANKEES THREATENING HIS BELOVED SOVIETS that was the cause of all the trouble!!!!!!!!!!!

So what that the Warsaw Pact Armies outnumbered the west 3 -1 in men, 5-1 in tanks, 7-1 in aircraft and 9-1 in artillery - in the mind of our Soviet prime minister The West is the threat!!

President Richard Nixon certainly had his flaws regarding what entitlements a Yankee president should be offered - but Nixon was no coward- he had been second in command of a torpedo boat at the same Guadalcanal area base where John F. Kennedy had his famous PT 109!

And Nixon was NO COLD WARRIOR! Nixon ended the Viet Nam war! Nixon famously flew off to Red China to start diplomatic talks! Nixon and his foreign affairs minister Kissinger launched the Start Talks- the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty with Soviet Union!

And Nixon famously referred to our Soviet prime minister as “that ASSHOLE”!!!

Max Nemni and his wife are staunch long time LIE-berals AND FRIENDS with the TRUDEAU FAMILY and they were chosen by Pierre Trudeau to write his biography- AND GIVEN FULL ACCESS to all Our Pet`s papers- and he very seldom threw any writing away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Nemnis document the FULL TRUTH about Our Pet and fill in the gaps regarding what a nasty back stabber he was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Nemnis tell us:

In his teens and twenties- Pierre was a strong anti Semite!

That he had Separatist inclinations!

There have been accusations that Pierre was involved in a Soviet “peace movement” that was a shameless KGB propaganda ploy- with Pierre claiming he “only went along once to view the event”! The Nemnis supply photos to prove that Pierre attended MULTIPLE propaganda events in Moscow and was very probably one of the leaders of the deluded and NAIVE Cdn SOVIET contingent!

WE KNOW from news reports that Pierre spoke strongly in favour of the Non Aggression Pact between Soviet Union and Nazi Germany- which gave Hitler a free hand to invade Poland and start WW2!

WE know that Pierre STRONGLY SUPPORTED Nazi Germany from his PUBLIC SPEECHES in which he told us the war against Nazis was nothing but British Imperialism!!!!!

Various people have publicly stated that when Pierre had time on his hands, he would put on a NAZI ARMY uniform complete with helmet and ride his motorcycle around Montreal giving the Salmon Arm Salute to any Jews he spotted because they were apparently giving Hitler a bad name for complaining about the “Final Solution to the Jewish Problem”!

Pierre has denied these MULTIPLE city sightings and claims he only went out ONCE on a deserted country road- with a pal wearing WW1 Imperial German uniforms! Sounds to me like Pierre is trying to WEASEL OUT of condemnation here!

When Nazis invaded Russia- Pierre stopped cheering for Hitler and began cheering even louder for Stalin!

When WW2 ended- Pierre attended the London School of Economics -that radical leftist institute where SOCIALIST DOGMA was the order of the day! And Pierre gravitated to classes and friendships with the most savagely anti western teachers- the ones who wanted the VIOLENT OVER THROW OF WESTERN DEMOCRACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Later- Trudeau and a pal- Jacques Hebert travelled virtually without restriction through out Red China- at a time when few westerners were even admitted to the country- and the few that were allowed in were generally CONFINED to Beijing! BUT NOT OUR PET- he was a SOVIET FRIEND!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trudeau wrote a book called “Two Innocents in Red China” and in the book he heaped fawning praise on Chairman Mao for “his genius in rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows” during the disastrous Great Leap Forward!

Surely nothing says “I AM A SOVIET ASSHOLE” quite like giving blanket approval of the MURDER of 30 million people???????????

And the life long Trudeau family friendship with Cuban butcher Castro would NOT have rehabilitated Trudeau in Yankee eyes!!!!!!!!!

In the 1950`s- Trudeau told some reporters including Czech born Lubor Zink of Toronto Telegram and later Toronto Sun- that if he was elected prime minister he would “take Canada from the past into the future via the route of radical socialism”! Later- when Pierre got interested in politics- he DENIED ever saying such a thing and threatened a slander suit against Zink!

Zink responded: “you name the court and bring your witnesses and I will bring mine”! No suit was ever filed but Pierre did BAN Zink from any Ottawa media scrum!! Zink sniped at Our Pet in the pages of Toronto Sun for the next 30 years- and was ignored by Pierre- probably because he didnt want to stir up old troubles!!!!!!!!!!!

In 1962 Pierre joined the Ndp and ran as a federal candidate- and lost! Pierre quit the NDP with nobody sorry to see him go as he was judged TOO LEFT WING FOR NDP according to the Nemni`s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

During that election campaign Pierre had described the LIE-beral Party as a group of frightened spineless sheep! Yet within 2 years he had emerged as LEADER of the spineless LIE-beral sheep!! Such GLARING HYPOCRISY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pierre was elected PM in 1967 to the great distress of Yankee intelligence community- who had LEGITIMATE CONCERNS that Pierre was entirely too cozy with the Soviets!!!!!!!!!!

You should look up the Igor Gouzenko affair- Igor was a Soviet cipher clerk- a CODING MESSAGE SPECIALIST - working at the Soviet Ottawa embassy- and he defected with wife and baby! And Igor wanted to SPILL HIS GUTS ABOUT ALL HE HAD LEARNED AS A SOVIET MESSENGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Igor knew way more than RCMP Security Staff could deal with so they asked Britain for help- and MI6 agent KIM PHILBY SHOWED UP to debrief Igor!!

Do you know that name Kim Philby? One of the THREE SOVIET MOLES operating HIGH UP in British Intelligence!! And there were other Soviet agents operating in Canada as well! Moscow got the ultra secret date of the Normandy invasion from Cdn agents! Moscow got the formula for the atomic bomb from Cdn agents!!!

So Philby debriefed Igor and told both RCMP and his own superiors that Igor was a deluded Liar making stuff up in exchange for attention! And yet within 10 years- Philby had fled to Moscow as suspicion fell on him and on the other 2 Soviet Moles - Burgess and McLean! The Brits knew there was a 4th agent but it took till after the Soviet collapse to discover that the 4th man was Anthony Blunt- the Queens art advisor who was the 4th Mole! Blunt was not what you would call an active or high value agent- which is why it took so long to find him!

NOBODY EVER checked into the lists of Soviet agents working within the Cdn govt! And when Pierre became PM he allegedly had all that useless, allegedly obsolete paperwork collected by RCMP from Gouzenko destroyed! One wonders if a THOROUGH investigation into Igor`s allegations might have led to Pierre being exposed as a Soviet agent??????

Moscow and Beijing both have long viewed Canada as easy back door way into Yankee technology and secrets- is it hard to figure out why????? Especially after the Cuban embassy in Ottawa caught fire and machine gun toting Cubans BLOCKED THE STREET and the firemen and insisted the building be allowed to BURN DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah- the Cubans preferred to let the ENTIRE building BURN rather than risk having the extent of their CANADIAN AND YANKEE SPY NETWORKS BE EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And Pierre responded to public indignation by claiming WE don’t care what foreign spies do in Canada because we have no secrets”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And of course after the fall of the Soviet Union, a Soviet sleeper agent walked into a Winnipeg police station carrying a suitcase sized tactical nuclear weapon and offered it to the cops! For reasons that should not be hard to figure out- neither LIE-berals nor their media pals want to talk about stuff like this! Nor do they want to mention how many OTHER SLEEPER AGENTS with tactical NUKES might have been out there in LIE-beral land!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pierre refused to go along with the Yankee embargo against Soviet Cuba and the Castro govt was able to earn hard currency from several generations of Cdn tourists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After the Oil Shock of OPEC in the early 1970`s IS IT ANY WONDER that Yankees wanted some guarantees from Cdns so that STRONGLY SUSPECTED SOVIET AGENT Pierre could not shut the Cdn oil off- right in the middle of some Soviet attack or other national disaster? After all- various govts had made seriously ugly calculations regarding the state of the world economy and how much Arab oil would be useable AFTER a Soviet nuclear strike irradiated the Arab oil fields!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Western military strategists considered that the fate of the DEMOCRATIC WORLD might depend on Cdn oil shipments- that were under the thumb of SOVIET PIERRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Yankees wanted guarantees regarding shipments of Cdn oil that not only keeps Yankees safer- it KEEPS CDNS Safer as well!!!!!!! By insuring that Soviet Moles cannot sabotage the west in time of trouble!

And the FINAL POINT- FREE TRADE means SHARED TRADE!!!!!! LIE-berals do not understand why they cannot simply express their hate of Yankees and democracy any time they want to! Do you not recall former Mississauga politician Carolyn Bennet spitting and hissing: “Yankees!!!! I HATE THOSE BASTARDS”!!!!!!
 
Dixie Cup
Conservative
+1
#150
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post



Right through neighbourhoods except the ones Injuns live in.

Interesting.


How silly We have pipelines going all through our neighborhoods - how do you think we get NG for our furnaces to heat our homes?? Honestly!! THINK!!!
 

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