Half of Canadians Want Refugees Deported


pgs
Free Thinker
+2
#1981
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

I am sure their ancestors were not treated as yours were. Talk about a dog in the manger attitude. If you treat whole groups of peiople with the expectation of such outcomes some will prove you right. That sort of rhetoric is self fullfilling. Quit the fear-mongering it only worsens the situation.

Hmmmn no Irish need apply . Hmmmn Japanese internment . Hmmmn stolen land and culture .
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+2
#1982
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Denial is a good thing I guess, every report says gun violence is up in Toronto in the last couple of years

As it is in the lower mainland . Funny the perpetrators when caught , and the victims when identified are all named Singh , Daliwall , Dosange , Nuygen , etc . Why is that ?
 
petros
+1
#1983
They are the Smiths Jones or Williams of Asia.
 
bluebyrd35
No Party Affiliation
#1984
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Denial is a good thing I guess, every report says gun violence is up in Toronto in the last couple of years

Denial of what? That the prejudice in Toronto has always been strong and is increasing?r . It used to be anyone with a Quebec licence plate was fair gane for many young drivers That I do know, Had relatives there so went frequently. I was driven off the road, tailgated etc during the "Hate Quebec" period. Now it has been replaced with anyone of a different culture.
 
bluebyrd35
No Party Affiliation
#1985
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

As it is in the lower mainland . Funny the perpetrators when caught , and the victims when identified are all named Singh , Daliwall , Dosange , Nuygen , etc . Why is that ?

Where are the stats?
 
spilledthebeer
+2
#1986
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

LOL Well it seems the gangs were here long before the present refugee crises and they are based on racism and they exist in nearly every region of Canada., How do you explain the fact that while not every region was inundated with refugees but stilll have a gang problem?

Furthermore Canada's crime rate has been declining inspite of the seeming rise of gang activity. It seems racism is increasing.......exactly why is this happeniing??https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canad...-one-1.2912442


Poor STUPID BLUEBYRDIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!


The issue of LIE-beral LIES regarding crime numbers has already been discussed here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral Chretien CHANGED the way crime numbers were kept!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Under the old system- each crime was listed separately!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Under the LIE-beral system it is CRIME SCENES THAT ARE LISTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And there can be MULTIPLE CRIMES committed at one scene!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The LIE-beral method means one must work through a VASTLY MORE CUMBERSOME system to seek out true numbers of crimes being committed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And getting access to those crime details is too often HIDDEN behind MODERN - LIE-beral imposed privacy laws and aided by bureaucratic refusal to cooperate due to "time constraints" !!!!!!!!


Yes- LIE-beral loving Hogs DO NOT have the time to present the TRUTH to us -since it would take so long to look up and assemble true crime numbers under the modern LIE-beral crime reporting system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The system of LIE-beral crime reporting is pretty much identical to the system for recording how many illegals and irregulars and refugees have come to Canada recently!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral accounting is ALL DESIGNED TO HIDE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just look at Wynne-bag Ontari-owe LIE-berals trumpeting their "balanced budget" that was hiding a SIXTEEN BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That is the scale and scope of LIE-beral TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals have worked hard to buy Hog votes and so Hogs are not willing to sell out to the enemies of LIE-berals by telling us the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


When LIE-berals were cobbling together that balanced $16 billion dollar deficit- civil servants involved in the process refused to sign on unless they got EXEMPTIONS from legal prosecution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Hogs KNEW that the LIE-beral balanced budget would come back to HAUNT THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



In addition LIE-berals have implemented the Plea Bargaining system which makes major crimes into minor crimes and makes minor crimes DISAPPEAR ENTIRELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-berals claim that plea bargaining saves time and legal costs............but the public is becoming aware that plea bargaining allows LIE-beral hug a thug judges to go LIGHTLY on career criminals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


After all- LIE-berals are already hard pressed to explain why so many Blacks and natives end up in jail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals CLAIM it is racism that prompts so many minorities to end up in jail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But the public says LIE-berals LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The public looks at the Black faces on the evening news - angry faces, sad faces, dead faces.......and WE KNOW that these are the FAILED CHILDREN of immigrants selected by LIE-beral Pierre Trudeau!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What LIE-berals call "racism" is merely the ugly end result of LIE-beral VOTE BUYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If you select immigrants based on their willingness to be BRIBED by LIE-berals- and do not concern yourself with how those LIE-beral immigrants will survive in Canada- then you get the kind of nightly news we have been seeing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The UGLY TRUTH is that crime is not down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The ugly reality is that LIE-berals have RUN OUT of lies and excuses to HIDE how badly their legal system and immigration system are performing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
petros
+1
#1987
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

Denial of what? That the prejudice in Toronto has always been strong and is increasing?r . It used to be anyone with a Quebec licence plate was fair gane for many young drivers That I do know, Had relatives there so went frequently. I was driven off the road, tailgated etc during the "Hate Quebec" period. Now it has been replaced with anyone of a different culture.

Where are the stats?
 
bluebyrd35
No Party Affiliation
#1988
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Hmmmn no Irish need apply . Hmmmn Japanese internment . Hmmmn stolen land and culture .

Yes You do realize you are just bolstering my argument. I am English born & raised in Quebec and I encountered many times "English need not apply" It is against the law to do this now. Don't you think that perhaps not blaming whole cultures for the actions of a few would help?
 
petros
+3
#1989
A language isn't a culture.
 
bluebyrd35
No Party Affiliation
#1990
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Where are the stats?

You missed them....except the personal experiences.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+1
#1991
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

Where are the stats?

We don’t keep those stats because we are an inclusive welrounded society . And of course our political betters want us rubes uninformed otherwise they would have angry mobs of constituents banging at their doors .
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#1992
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

Yes You do realize you are just bolstering my argument. I am English born & raised in Quebec and I encountered many times "English need not apply" It is against the law to do this now. Don't you think that perhaps not blaming whole cultures for the actions of a few would help?

I am not blaming the cultures . I am blaming the politicians who invited them here .
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#1993
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

You missed them....except the personal experiences.




POOR STUPID Bluebyrdie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


She thinks that telling LIE-beral FAKE NEWS will win her arguments!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Having been so long in Quebec we may guess that BIRDIE is unaware of some of the old Toronto arguments about crime and race!!!!!!!!


A DISGUSTED Toronto cop- who later went onto a short political career at Toronto Silly Hall- went through a pile of crime reports and came up with some DISTURBING crime numbers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


To the effect that 13 percent of criminals were responsible for almost 90 percent of all crime in Toronto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And that the great majority of hard core criminals in Toronto were black!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals and their BIGOTED allies of Black Action Defense Committee- the forerunner of Black Lives Matter- immediately went on the attack against what they CLAIMED was racism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


First the LIE-berals whined: "how do you know all the accused were Black"??????????????????


Cop responded: By the mug shots!!!!!!!!!!!!



And the cop went on to explain HE PUT ASIDE AND DID NOT COUNT mug shots were race was uncertain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So his crime numbers might have indicted blacks even more if the FULL TRUTH were told!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Recognizing that attacking methodology to discredit the cop would not work - LIE-berals turned and focused on their Human Rights Kangaroo Court Tribunals- howling in rage that the cop was a RACIST for compiling such statistics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals were more interested in JAILING a cop who told embarrassing truths than they were in jailing the thugs the cop was pointing out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



In LIE-beral land it is ILLEGAL TO COMPILE RACE BASED STATISTICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


Unless of course you are a LIE-beral- and then you can collect all the race based numbers you want!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


A LIE-beral can tell you that very disproportionate numbers of natives are jailed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


But the LIE-beral WILL NOT TELL you how many natives end up in jail for smuggling Yankee whiskey, cigarettes or guns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And LIE-berals and their media whore allies with do thir best to CENSOR anybody who tries to discuss criminal behaviour in any way unsatisfactory to LIE-berals or to the natives whose votes are SOLD to LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Being a smuggler and striking a blow against the hated whites is much more glamorous than flipping burgers or sweeping floors- and pays better too - hence the native preference for jobs that carry jail terms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But LIE-berals will not admit this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!


And being a pimp or drug dealer is a preferred occupation for young black guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Who wants to do a crappy McJob when there is BIG MONEY to be made??????????????????????????


Of course getting the Big Money also means there is a chance to get SHOT in exchange for the money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But LIE-berals will not discuss this either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sadly- a study done in Unites States several decades back actually claimed that the lowest level of drug dealer- those selling small quantities of Weed actually MAKE BELOW MINIMUM WAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Which is why so many gang bangers live with their Mommies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Basically -If the low level gang banger wants enough money to get a place of his own HE PRETTY MUCH HAS TO SHOOT SOMEBODY who is higher up in the organization and has access to more cash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals STRUGGLE MIGHTILY to shut down ANY LOGICAL DEBATE by shouting "RACIST" and "ISLAMOPHOBE" at us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And then they get all bent out of shape because the "systemic racists" scorn LIE-beral propaganda!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#1994
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

Denial of what? That the prejudice in Toronto has always been strong and is increasing?r . It used to be anyone with a Quebec licence plate was fair gane for many young drivers That I do know, Had relatives there so went frequently. I was driven off the road, tailgated etc during the "Hate Quebec" period. Now it has been replaced with anyone of a different culture.


POOR STUPID Bluebyrdie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!


She says "prejudice in Toronto has always been strong and is increasing"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


She has an UTTERLY POISONED WORLD VIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


How is it that prejudice can be INCREASING when so many LIE-berals are in charge of ALL LEVELS OF OUR GOVT?????????????


And yes- LIE-berals are in retreat in many provinces..............but byrdie is a typical LIE-beral!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


She wants to blame prejudice for the fact that all LIE-beral policy is FAILING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








Here is an article detailing the sex education mess LIE-berals have left us! With some comments of my own in brackets):

St. Michael’s victim should come first, not the school

By Heather Mallick, Star Columnist

Published Fri., Nov. 23, 2018

The welfare of children comes first. The job of adults is to make sure this happens. But over and over, we let our children down.

Take the hard-right Ford government decimating the modernized sex-ed curriculum in Ontario schools. In a society as sexualized as ours, children need to be able to defend themselves from predators, and in the case of St. Michael’s College School, allegedly from some other students.

(POOR FOOLISH MALLICK! The problem with the LIE-beral sex education curriculum is that it is seen by many parents to tell too much too soon to kids that are too young! And much of what is taught seems to normalize more extreme behaviour!)

More and better sex education can only help protect children against the sort of horrors that allegedly took place at St. Michael’s College School, Heather Mallick writes.

(Garbage! More and better sex education simply gives UNSUPERVISED kids a better idea what sort of kinky games might be played!)

More and better sex education can only help protect children against the sort of horrors that allegedly took place at St. Michael’s College School, Heather Mallick writes.

(Sorry- the true key is parental supervision and the setting of standards! Things that are too often missing in modern homes! Think of the 15 year old New Brunswick girl- Rehtaeh Parsons- who got drunk at a party and then was raped while passed out -with photos of the event taken to ensure all present would have happy memories of their “entertainment”!)

(This Parsons event demonstrates a TOTAL indifference to any possible parental out rage! Too many of our kids are convinced that parents don’t care and cannot be bothered - and sadly the kids might be RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

If government removes information from class — about names for genitals, different sexualities, and how to find a sympathetic adult who will hear your story of abuse and danger — then children are without armour or recourse.

(How absurd! Giving kids detailed knowledge of ”different sexualities” sounds like a great way to NORMALIZE what happened ST Mikes! If NOTHING is wrong or aberrant then HOW are kids to know not to do things? And yet if all forms of sexuality are acceptable then HOW can we forbid anything? Other than by making it clear that such behaviour is AGE SPECIFIC- meaning the older the better- BEFORE you start such “experimentation”?)

Who does that assist? Basically, pedophiles. It’s in their interests for children to remain unwary, mystified about sex, and without defence. “It’ll just be our little secret,” says the abuser. “Right?”

Here’s one case recently reported by the CBC. How did three sexually abusive teachers end up at Bell High School in Ottawa and prey on students for decades, while not necessarily overlapping? Do abusers trade notes on the most oblivious schools?

(“Do abuser trade notes”, Mallick asks? I ask: Who says they don’t? And how much was known about the 3 pedophiles- before the news broke? Both our school administrators and our Church officials play a little game called “Pass the trash”- meaning SUSPECTS get sent someplace else before the smelly stuff hits the fan! And AGAIN - REAL parental supervision is the only REAL DEFENSE until the kids get old enough to defend themselves!)

A smart child knows to go for help. The St. Michael’s boy who is alleged to have been sexually assaulted with a broom handle by a gang of boys — it sounds very much like a horrific scene from 13 Reasons Why, a Netflix drama about teen suicide — did not tell his parents. It’s not clear if he told anyone but if he had grown up since primary school with the new curriculum, this brave boy would have known that somewhere out there was an adult who would help.

(So lets ask which the kid was MORE AFRAID OF? Another assault? Or to spend the rest of his school life known everywhere as broomstick boy! Anybody with an ounce of sense will know that after the news media jumped on the story- ALL the kids at St Mikes quickly got the names of the protagonists and then spilled the name to family and pals!)

And then we come to the parents. There seem to be two camps, with some parents on camera demanding transparency and reform from the school and angry that the police weren’t called right away.

Then there are other parents, who may feel precisely the same way but took another angle: they blamed the media for uncovering the story and reporting on it. Though I received emails from good men who had survived victimization in private school or who knew of other cases, I heard from one distressed St. Michael’s mother, and it worried me.

She devoted one short sentence to collective sorrow for the “victims” and then launched into a defence of 1,000+ “innocent victims,” who had done nothing wrong but were being mocked and bullied for attending St. Michael’s College School.

(Yes- and so much for the VAUNTED LIE-beral sex curriculum that is supposed to make kids tolerant and understanding -and CLEARLY DOES NOT! And we have only to look at the Toronto District SB trustee who publicly and angrily referred to Toronto Sun reporter Sue-Ann Levy as a “bull dyke”! How quickly LIE-berals FORGET their holier than thou standards when annoyed!!!!)

(LIE-berals are not fooling anybody with their open and inclusive talk- one has only to listen to angry kids on a school yard- reaching for the most offensive insult they can find- and coming up with a loud accusation of “Faggot”! In imitation of their LIE-beral elders!)

(And this political unreality will only get worse as Muslims and illegals come here from places where homosexuality is a SIN!! LIE-beral lust for votes at any price is so high they IGNORED a Calgary Imam in summer 2017 who explained to a cheering crowd that Allah permits the Faithful to KILL GAYS to prevent them from sinning again! Such talk is NOT TOLERANCE!)

(The detestable LIE-beral values commitment is also being FORCED onto religious groups who seek govt grants to operate soup kitchens and summer camps etc! Catholics have been honest and refused to sign an agreement supporting LIE-beral abortion rights- but Muslims operate with Taquiya- the dispensation from God that permits them to LIE in defense of Islam! So in summer 2018, LIE-berals gave grants to Muslim hypocrites who oppose abortion and denied grants to honest Catholics- who oppose abortion but will not lie about it for money!)

She then repeated rumours, with no evidence whatsoever, of actual media offering children money for the pornographic videos, which is absurd. It’s a crime to own child pornography, much less pay for it, and no Canadian journalist pays for stories. It would be a firing offence or worse. Yes, there is always worse.

(And who says the money offers were not pedophiles? Or parents seeking to buy up nd destroy the images?)

I am grateful to CityNews reporter Tina Yazdani, whose calm, measured TV interview of two mothers outside the school grounds revealed so much about modern — or otherwise — parenthood.

The women did not want the story reported. “What the media is doing to this school around this incident, you are part of the problem. You’re a problem.” one said angrily.

(Hey- you pay that much to get your kids a good education -and then to your horror- you discover the kids are learning stuff THAT IS NOT on the curriculum! The poor women are no doubt deeply humiliated!)

But how is one to solve this problem? Apparently with silence, by not reporting a story of national interest about alleged gang sexual abuse in a Catholic school, as if an editor in this day and age would say, “Nah, leave it alone, it’ll damage the Church.”

(And it is not as if we have not seen such scandals before! One has only to think of Upper Canada College and the pedophile teachers who got arrested for preying on boarding students! Again- parental supervision is the key that is missing! And some good solid straight talk about sexual variations as well!)

I sympathize with the anguished mothers. But their stance sounds Cardinal Law-like, as in Boston, as in the movie Spotlight. Sex crimes against children must not be discussed in clear, open air.

The most bewildering thing about Catholic priests tormenting children worldwide was not the crime. Pedophiles do what pedophiles do. But the priests went unquestioned by parents, were defended by the corporate church, and were hidden by other adults who didn’t want to cause trouble.

The silent era has, I hope, ended.

(Good LUCK with that! The Church understands that forgiveness is a Christian obligation but the Church seems not to understand that forgiveness is one thing but offering MORE TRUST is another! Most Cdns accept that pedophiles are mentally ill- and they bear no blame for ill!! But offering a proven pedophile any more BLIND TRUST around kids is madness! You would not let a recovering alcoholic run a liquor store so why let pedophiles near kids? AGAIN?)

I am thinking of the parents protesting the modern sex-ed curriculum — they’ve been complaining since 2015 and pulling their kids from public schools — because it went against their various religious beliefs. But secular schools put children’s safety first. Parents’ complaints necessarily come second.

(Thus far there is NO PROOF that the LIE-beral sex curriculum will do anything but arouse curiosity and a desire to explore- in some of our kids! Knowing the names of genitalia will not prevent abusive acts! Only the setting of standards and parental supervision will prevent abuses! Kids need to know there ARE CONSEQUENCES for behaviour they know is not acceptable!)

(And the worst of it is that our govt does not deem it necessary to TELL US what is in the sex ed curriculum! Talk about buying as pig in a poke! Maybe Ford should put the whole mess online for parents to read and judge for themselves?)

(And there is the great question of our times- just what behaviour IS ACCEPTABLE???? And what IS NOT in these modern times?? The St. Mikes scandal begam as part of a team hazing ritual! Would the scandal disappear if the victims had said “oh, its okay, I just want to be on the team”!!!!!!!!!!!! Or would the scandal persist because who wants to think of the unregulated Lords of the Flies sticking broom handles up each others Butts?)

(And HOW will LIE-beral sex education limit the Lords of the Flies in the first place?)
 
EagleSmack
+1
#1995
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

YUP! I clearly do LOL! Read and learn but try choosing your sources with more discretion


So you don't have any supporting facts to dispute mine. Well, that's a liberal in denial for sure.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#1996
Person of 'national security concern' was accidentally granted permanent residency

Quote:

A person of "national security concern" was granted permanent residency "due to a series of failures" by the Canadian border agency and immigration department.
In light of the incident both departments have had to introduce changes in what the public safety minister's office is calling a "completely unacceptable" mistake.
The changes were outlined in a briefing note sent by Canada Border Services Agency president John Ossowski to Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale in early 2018 regarding the 2017 error.
A heavily redacted copy of the document was recently obtained by CBC News through access to information laws.
The briefing note, titled "Subject of national security concern granted permanent residency" says the subject — their name, age and gender are redacted for privacy reasons — was granted permanent resident status "due to a series of failures on the part of both Immigration, Refugees, Citizenship Canada and the CBSA."
That means the person is entitled to most social benefits — including health care — can live, work and study anywhere in Canada, and is protected by Canadian law and the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, but isn't considered a Canadian citizen.
Most of the details about why this person is considered a security concern and how they were granted permanent residency were redacted because, among other reasons, officials believe releasing information could hurt "the conduct of international affairs, the defence of Canada or any state allied or associated with Canada."
Disconnect between agencies
However, the document does mention that the Canadian Security Intelligence Service had "derogatory information," meaning information that could be relevant to a finding that the person was inadmissible to Canada. CSIS and the RCMP were also tapped to monitor a national security investigation linked to this case.
Kelly Sundberg, an associate professor in the department of economics, justice and policy studies at Mount Royal University in Calgary, said it appears there was a disconnect in communication between Canada's intelligence agencies.
"To me it's unacceptable. As a Canadian I expect more, and I think other Canadians expect that our federal law enforcement, intelligence and border security agencies can work seamlessly, share information seamlessly. And if there are administrative or legal hurdles, then that's something Parliament needs to look at," he said.
A spokesperson for Goodale would only say a combination of "several unique errors" led to the "oversight for a single permanent residency application."
"Those mistakes were completely unacceptable. Changes have been made to prevent them from happening again," said Scott Bardsley in an email to CBC News.
"While we do not comment on operational matters related to security, we can say that the government of Canada monitors all potential threats and has robust measures in place to address them."
Most new permanent residency cards are valid for five years, but Goodale's office pointed out that permanent residents can become inadmissible on security grounds or for a misrepresentation, under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act.
"The government of Canada is unwavering in its commitment to protect the safety and security of Canadians," said Bardsley.
"We continue to take appropriate action to counter threats to Canada, its citizens and its interests around the world."
Changes raise red flags
Ossowski told Goodale that the border agency identified a number of "vulnerabilities" and is taking steps to "respond to this incident and to prevent similar incidents from occurring in the future."
Those steps include introducing new fail-safes to the global case management system, updating the national targeting program, which helps the CBSA identify suspected high-risk people and goods, and changing the passenger information system.
In a statement to CBC News the border agency said its internal review policies and procedures have been "refined" in light of the incident.
But Sundberg, who spent 15 years working for the CBSA's predecessor, said the changes involve updating significant computer systems and working with international partners, raising some red flags.
"I don't think one case, one mistake would trigger all of these major changes," he said.
"I don't believe this is the only case. I think that this is probably more common than we believe, and it comes down to process, it comes down to organizational structure and it comes down to investment in officers. So, it's concerning."
Asked about the incident, Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada said it's offering its officers more training.
Call for oversight
"The department is delivering ongoing training to IRCC officers to identify potential security concerns in order to mitigate human error," said spokesperson Nancy Caron.
Sundberg said cases like this highlight the need for independent oversight of the CBSA.
"I don't buy it. I don't believe that this is a one-off, that this is the 'something went wrong.' I think that this is yet another case that went public, that the government is like 'Uh oh, we better do something,'" he said.
"This is why we need to have arm's-length oversight of the CBSA so that when things go aside, when things go wrong that there is an independent civilian body that's overseeing this for the interests of Canadians and to ensure best practices."
Last month the Opposition Conservatives called for a review and audit of the immigration screening system after a CBC News investigation revealed a Somali gang member with an extensive criminal record was twice released in Canada.
The case of Abdullahi Hashi Farah also highlighted a lack of communication, this time between the CBSA and the Immigration and Refugee Board.
Officers gained access to his phone, which had evidence of illegal activity, but didn't immediately pass that information on to the IRB.

 
bluebyrd35
No Party Affiliation
#1997
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

A language isn't a culture.

Tell that to France and England populations French & English Quebecers certainly believe language is the main portion of their cultures.
 
petros
+1
#1998
Just because they are wrong doesn't mean you should be too.

I what ways are English in Quebec and French in Quebec living differently?
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#1999
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Person of 'national security concern' was accidentally granted permanent residency


SADLY- THIS IS NOT A FAILURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !



THIS IS STANDARD LIE-BERAL POLICY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are going to great lengths to HIDE just how BAD their immigration choices are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


CONSIDER THIS ONGOING LIE-BERAL MESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!






Here is an article illustrating how flawed is our national security under LIE-beral rule. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Refugee background checks may have been flawed: Memo

By Candice Malcolm

First posted: Monday, June 12, 2017 09:15 PM EDT | Updated: Monday, June 12, 2017 09:24 PM EDT

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Justin Trudeau’s fast-tracked Syrian refugee program may not have conducted proper background checks in some cases, a government memo obtained by the Toronto Sun reveals.

The memo — dated November 2015 and compiled by civil servants in the department of Immigration, Refugee and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) — raises serious questions about the screening and vetting Syrian refugees received before coming to Canada.

While the Trudeau government has maintained that proper screening precautions and security checks were taken, information in the memo suggests otherwise.

The document reveals that Syrian refugees were issued government documents that included “misspellings, incorrect DOBs (date of births) and gender.”

This calls into question the thoroughness of the background checks conducted by the Trudeau government. Without vital information about a person, including his or her full name — with correct spelling — date of birth and gender, a background check would be futile.

The fact that Syrian refugees were issued government documents with errors is deeply troubling.

( LIE-berals scoff at any Cdn worried about Muslim terror here. Its all part of the LIE-beral disdain for anybody who disagrees with them for any reason- no matter how valid. As I have noted before, the Trudope family- father Pierre and sons Justin and Sacha have a LONG history of supporting and preferring dictators while giving only lip service to the concepts of democracy and freedom. Our idiot Boy Justin NEEDS those happy Muslim voters dedicated to LIE-beral party so he can cling to power at any price!)

The internal memo — obtained through an Access to Information request and shared with the Sun — was produced by non-partisan civil servants within the federal immigration department.

The memo was based on a forum held with participants from various local, provincial and federal government departments to discuss Trudeau’s 2015 election pledge to admit over 25,000 Syrian refugees in just a few short weeks.

(And it was done without making any real resources available to those various govt services who have to feed, house and train the Muslim arrivals! But IF Our idiot Boy HAD supplied needed aid then his critics would have a weapon to attack him with over the huge, ongoing costs, so he apparently figures its better to say and do nothing useful so no blame for Muslim troubles will fall on HIM! Muslims KNOW who let them in and Muslims will be COACHED carefully to blame OTHER political parties for blocking their aid!)

The forum was held on Nov. 28-29, 2015, in Toronto, in the midst of the turmoil of trying to implement Trudeau’s ambitious political promise.

While the Liberal government eventually abandoned its initial eight-week target for Trudeau’s resettlement pledge — extending the timeline by two months to Feb. 29, 2016 — the memo describes the chaos and confusion felt by those on the ground who were scrambling to implement this partisan pledge.

“Participants noted that the ambitious target and timeline put enormous pressure on financial and human resources,” the memo reads.

While much of the feedback and recommendations from the forum amount to simply throwing more resources and more money to various government agencies for their refugee budgets, another recurring theme is clear: that Trudeau’s refugee timeline was totally unmanageable.

The memo concedes “the challenges of an ambitious scope, scale and timeline of Trudeau’s Syrian refugee scheme” and lists two pages of “areas of improvements and feedback for consideration.”

The recommendations include “increased advance planning,” “early clarification of the roles and responsibilities” and “contingency plans for unexpected events.”

The “unexpected events” included cancelled flights, medical issues and no shows.

Many experts have alleged that Trudeau’s decision to resettle 25,000 on a fast-tracked timeline was based not on what’s best for Canada, but on short-term thinking and partisan gain.

The memo notes that future refugee efforts “need to think longer term.”

(The truly disturbing reality of the total lack of long term security planning is the most troubling part of this LIE-beral immigrant mess! LIE-berals usually relied on security reports from Red Crescent aid workers at refugee camps in places like Lebanon- were terror group Hamas holds sway! LIE-berals are basically taking the word of Hamas MURDERERS that those admitted to Canada are decent, honest people who will not make trouble! Trudope faith in Hamas butchers is so strong that he has RESTORED aid funding to Hamas! The aid to Hamas had been previously cut because of the number of atrocities Hamas had sponsored- but its no worry to Our idiot Boy!)

(Our idiot Boy seems to think we should regard terrorist events in Canada in the same light as tornados or wild fires- just a cyclical yearly inconvenience! His arrogance is so great that he feels anything that interferes with his grand plans for Canada must simply be wrong- hence his desire to ban Islamophobia- which is LIE-beral `speak` for using Human Rights-but to often Wrong Commission- Kangaroo courts to harass and silence critics of LIE-beral party policy! Our idiot Boy has a committee in place, already looking at ways to `combat` Islamophobia and render it illegal- which may still be a tricky challenge in a country were the citizens STILL VALUE free speech!)
 
DaSleeper
+2
#2000
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

Denial of what? That the prejudice in Toronto has always been strong and is increasing?r . It used to be anyone with a Quebec licence plate was fair gane for many young drivers That I do know, Had relatives there so went frequently. I was driven off the road, tailgated etc during the "Hate Quebec" period. Now it has been replaced with anyone of a different culture.

Same thing for Ontario license plates in Quebec, and service in restaurants, until they found out I could speak Quebec French "Tabarnake"
 
petros
#2001
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

Same thing for Ontario license plates in Quebec, and service in restaurants, until they found out I could speak Quebec French "Tabarnake"

Is the French around Kap and 'Earst different? Accent or?
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
+1
#2002
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

Same thing for Ontario license plates in Quebec, and service in restaurants, until they found out I could speak Quebec French "Tabarnake"

That's spelled "tabarnac", maudit tête carrée.
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#2003
See I told you he was having trouble trying to compete.

NO one spells Tabarnak!!! with an E at the end ever.

He is not what he claims to be at all or he would already know that.I'll bet he has never been north of Lebanon.


Why do they do it?

The subject of how functioning humans devolve into internet trolls is complicated — especially because you can’t trust them to tell you the truth. Some of them sound like teenage boys, because they are. Others are adults whose bodies made it out of junior high, but whose maturity was tragically left behind. Some justify their behavior with rhetoric that would be at home at an apartheid neo-nazi rally.

Yes, a few are pathological. Australian researchers found that “when high on trait psychopathy, trolls employ an empathic strategy of predicting and recognising the emotional suffering of their victims, while abstaining from the experience of these negative emotions.”
https://betterhumans.coach.me/the-co...s-4a606ae25c2c

LOL, any real navigator will tell you "YAW way" means steered right off the pathological.

He even posted a fake front yard shot trying to be the fool's fool the other day claiming the angle of the sun would show his latitude bla bla bla...

DaSS is a FAKE!!!
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