How should we punish child molestation and rape?


gerryh
#61
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

I'm a kind and generous guy. I was proposing giving the convict the choice between death, life, and surgical castration followed by at least a year of institutionalized therapy until at least two psychiatrists recommend release. In theory, that last option still does not guarantee release anytime in the person's life even after castration since he would still need the recommendation of at least two psychiatrists in addition to the surgical castration followed by at least a year of institutionalized therapy.

I believe in choice!



and the 18 yr old caught banging his 14 yr old girl friend? He has the choice between those 3 also.


 
White_Unifier
#62
As for an eighteen-year-old banging a 14-year-old, we could consider the OP as the maximum sentence. We could consider allowing a judge discretion in reducing the sentence. Where it was consensual and the guilty party is particularly young, maybe a year of prison.
 
gerryh
#63
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

As for an eighteen-year-old banging a 14-year-old, we could consider the OP as the maximum sentence. We could consider allowing a judge discretion in reducing the sentence. Where it was consensual and the guilty party is particularly oung, maybe a year of prison.


You never said any of that in the op. You didn't say "upto this", you said these are the choices. Period. Nothing about discretion.



and how generous, a year of prison.
 
Hoid
#64
I wonder why not just use the laws we have now
 
White_Unifier
-1
#65
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

I wonder why not just use the laws we have now

Now that I've given it more thought, an 18-year-old isn't a child. If an 18-year-old has sex with a 14-year-old, yes, let's give him the options in the OP. Death, life in prison, or castration. That would serve as an effective deterrent. I can guarantee that any 18-year-old would give it some damn serious thought then.
 
taxslave
+1
#66
Take them out to the wood shed.
Put pecker in vice.
Give him a rusty tin can lid.
Light shed on fire.
 
JLM
+2
#67
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Take them out to the wood shed.
Put pecker in vice.
Give him a rusty tin can lid.
Light shed on fire.

But why waste a shed?

Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

If a person is convicted of having sex with another person under the age of fifteen or who sexually assaults a person, the judge should give him one of the following options:

1. Death.

2. Life in prison (with the option of requesting death at a later date should he wish to do so).

3. Surgical castration (gonadectomy if male, oophorectomy if female)followed by at least one year of institutionalized therapy until at least two psychiatrists recommend the offender's release.

Every situation has to be judged on it's own merits. This is a situation that lends itself to the old adage - "there's an exception to every rule". Should the 18 year old suffer a disproportionate sentence to that imposed on a guy 17 years 11 months?
 
Hoid
#68
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

Now that I've given it more thought, an 18-year-old isn't a child. If an 18-year-old has sex with a 14-year-old, yes, let's give him the options in the OP. Death, life in prison, or castration. That would serve as an effective deterrent. I can guarantee that any 18-year-old would give it some damn serious thought then.

Its a really stupid idea.
 
taxslave
#69
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

I don't think rape is really about sex.

I don't think punishment is the thing about this crime that we need to work on.

Many shrinks say the same thing. THey claim it is about power. I'm not convinced.

Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

As for an eighteen-year-old banging a 14-year-old, we could consider the OP as the maximum sentence. We could consider allowing a judge discretion in reducing the sentence. Where it was consensual and the guilty party is particularly young, maybe a year of prison.

That is only 4 years age difference. In two years, still having the same age difference it is legal. And until not very long ago 14 was legal in Canada so again with a stroke of a pen we have made a legal activity illegal for no apparent reason.
 
JLM
+1
#70
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Many shrinks say the same thing. THey claim it is about power. I'm not convinced.



That is only 4 years age difference. In two years, still having the same age difference it is legal. And until not very long ago 14 was legal in Canada so again with a stroke of a pen we have made a legal activity illegal for no apparent reason.

100 years ago men in their 30s married women 14 years old consentually. It was acceptable then. Now we are going to the opposite extreme where women aren't having children until their late 30s or older and quite often as a result giving birth to a lot of f**ked up kids, where Down's syndrome is only the tip of the iceberg.
 
DonaldHok
#71
If we are limiting this to presidential elections, how many times have whites had the choice between white and black candidates? 0
 
Yo0
#72
Life in Prison in max four year.
 
JLM
+1
#73
After guilt is established beyond ANY doubt do an amputation with a rusty tin can lid.
 
Yo0
#74
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

After guilt is established beyond ANY doubt do an amputation with a rusty tin can lid.

Infantry in the U.S. Army.
 
OpposingDigit
#75
I don't think there is a cure for child molestation/rape. It is like expecting a gay person to become hetrosexual.

Lock them up for life, but in a prison with only these type of people in it. It is something they are born with, and should not be treated like animals. (Something like an internment camp.)
 
Tecumsehsbones
+1 / -1
#76
Tie them to a chair and make them listen to WU's proposals to ban sex.

Be prepared for international backlash for violating the Convention on Torture.
 
Yo0
#77
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

and the 18 yr old caught banging his 14 yr old girl friend? He has the choice between those 3 also.


Between 15 - 17 age I see 13 year old girls in internet porn.

 
darkbeaver
#78
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

If a person is convicted of having sex with another person under the age of fifteen or who sexually assaults a person, the judge should give him one of the following options:

1. Death.

2. Life in prison (with the option of requesting death at a later date should he wish to do so).

3. Surgical castration (gonadectomy if male, oophorectomy if female)followed by at least one year of institutionalized therapy until at least two psychiatrists recommend the offender's release.

For a second offense, the judge should give the offender only options 1 and 2.

In addition to this, should a female offender have caused her male victim to impregnate her during the assault, the male victim could register (even retroactively) the fetus as a human life starting at conception, meaning that any attempt on the abuser's part to abort the fetus other than for medical reasons could lead to a charge of murder which would then leave her with only two options:

1. Death.

2. Life in prison (with the option of requesting death at a later date should she wish to do so).

Should a male offender impregnate a female victim, then he should automatically be given only two options:

1. Death.

2. Life in prison (with the option of requesting death at a later date should he wish to do so).

The above might seem harsh; but when we consider the harms of sexual abuse to mental health and to society in general, we need such a harsh deterrent.


Death of course. Unless they,re connected/insulated/immune/untouchable/obsencely wealthy.
 
gerryh
+3
#79
Quote: Originally Posted by Yo0 View Post

Between 15 - 17 age I see 13 year old girls in internet porn.


It doesn't surprise me at all that you go looking for child porn on the net.
 
darkbeaver
#80
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

It doesn't surprise me at all that you go looking for child porn on the net.


A bit creepy isn,t it Gerryh?
 
Yo0
#81
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

It doesn't surprise me at all that you go looking for child porn on the net.

The last 8 year I looking real porn but now I will stop trend and has really sex with girls.
 
JLM
#82
Quote: Originally Posted by Yo0 View Post

The last 8 year I looking real porn but now I will stop trend and has really sex with girls.

Is English your first language?
 
Hoid
#83
How should we help people who have been victimized?

A more important question, and one the idjits will not even consider.

They prefer talking about punishing people, since they are unable to help anyone.
 
Yo0
#84
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Is English your first language?

Perhaps. Difficulty debating in forum.
 
darkbeaver
+1
#85
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Is English your first language?


It is, because to fuk up a sentence like that you have to know the language
 

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