Trudeau 'welcomes' ethics probe of alleged PMO interference in SNC-Lavalin case


JLM
No Party Affiliation
#1231
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

SNC will be paying a steep price on all the international work that they won't get... They are toxic in the intl community


Tater tot, on the other hand, loses on this as well.. Having only a weak minority gvt, the opposition parties will tear him apart now that his role in the fraud is solidified


I'd give Justin no more than another 18 months before he's toast. If the upcoming budget doesn't do it, I think the one in 2021 will! Good riddance!
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
+3
#1232
Perhaps now with the liberals in a minority position it would be a good time to have the SNC Debacle right before a justice committee again only this time the numbers would make it a justice committee instead of Justin Committee. I could see the bloc pairing up with the Liberal party, And then that leaves the greens and the NDP and the conservatives to be the ones that actually ask the real questions.... And maybe we will get past the stink of a cover-up that surrounds this whole goat rodeo.
 
Hoid
#1233
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

Perhaps now with the liberals in a minority position it would be a good time to have the SNC Debacle right before a justice committee again only this time the numbers would make it a justice committee instead of Justin Committee. I could see the bloc pairing up with the Liberal party, And then that leaves the greens and the NDP and the conservatives to be the ones that actually ask the real questions.... And maybe we will get past the stink of a cover-up that surrounds this whole goat rodeo.

Perhaps now its time to move on from it.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#1234
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Perhaps now its time to move on from it.

Yes let criminal interference slide . No need to have laws governing Liberal conduct .
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#1235
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

They spent $4.5 billion on a pipeline that nobody in Alberta was willing to step up and buy.
Don't you guys even care about those 10,000's of jobs?

I've said since the beginning that it was a mistake, all he had to do was enforce national interest laws, now he set precedent allowing a minority power over the majority.
 
Hoid
#1236
There is no way to complete the expansion by "enforcing national interest laws"

If there was don't you think Harper would have done it?

The thing has to conform to Canadian law just like anything else.
Last edited by Hoid; Dec 20th, 2019 at 10:30 AM..
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#1237
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Thee is no way to complete the expansion by "enforcing national interest laws"
If there was don't you think Harper would have done it?
The thing has to conform to Canadian law just like anything else.

This is the kind of thinking that is phucking our country up, and why it costs so much to get a project off the ground driving investment out of Canada, allowing Mexico to pass us in trade.
 
Hoid
#1238
It isn't thinking its the law.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#1239
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

It isn't thinking its the law.

Which law under national interest?
 
Hoid
#1240
Canada has a legal code.

Anything that is prohibited by that code is - are you ready? - prohibited.
 
spilledthebeer
#1241
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Perhaps now its time to move on from it.






Perhaps it is time for hemerHOID to stop LYING ABOUT LAVALIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The fact is that only a TINY PORTION of the dirt has been exposed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Quebec provincial Charbonneau inquiry HAD NO MANDATE to investigate ..............................


LAVALIN BRIBERY AND CORRUPTION CHARGES FOR FEDERAL CONTRACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Charbonneau DID ESTABLISH that Lavalin WAS GUILTY of bribery and bid rigging........................


on Quebec PROVINCIAL CONTRACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NOR have we seen ANY RESOLUTION OF THE FACT that Our idiot Boy Justin.............................


ATTEMPTED ILLEGALLY - according to our fired Attorney General Wilson-Raybould - to INTERFERE.............................


in the judicial process related to Lavalin CORRUPTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-berals have followed their standard legal practice with Lavalin.................................


meaning PLEA BARGAIN EVERY SERIOUS CHARGE AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Major crimes made into minor crimes.........................................


major crimes in multiple jurisdictions dropped in favour of a plea bargain for ONE JURISDICTION............................


then all manner of evidence brushed aside in favour of forgiveness and forgetfullness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are sweeping a MOUNTAIN of dirty evidence under the rug!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And hoping we wont trip over the huge legal bulge................................


and hoping we wont GAG in that stench of CORRUPTION and shameless VOTE BUYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Hoid
#1242
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

I've said since the beginning that it was a mistake, all he had to do was enforce national interest laws, now he set precedent allowing a minority power over the majority.

this is especially hilarious on a thread where you have been crying about trudeau interfering in the law and due process.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#1243
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Canada has a legal code.

Anything that is prohibited by that code is - are you ready? - prohibited.

And a proof is a good proof because it’s proven .
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#1244
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Canada has a legal code.
Anything that is prohibited by that code is - are you ready? - prohibited.

Yep and the Feds. have a right to push through projects deemed as in a national interest
 
Hoid
#1245
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Yep and the Feds. have a right to push through projects deemed as in a national interest

Then why didn't Harper do it?
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#1246
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

this is especially hilarious on a thread where you have been crying about trudeau interfering in the law and due process.

That's exactly the problem quit interfering and just do his damn job in the interest of the whole country, not just for the interest in a vote rich region or 2, or in the interest of his puppet masters.
 
Hoid
#1247
Why are you against him helping out SNC Lav in the national interest but for him helping out exxon in the pipeline thing?

IN one case the law is the law and in the other the law can be ignored.

Because white natty
 
spilledthebeer
#1248
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

There is no way to complete the expansion by "enforcing national interest laws"

If there was don't you think Harper would have done it?

The thing has to conform to Canadian law just like anything else.




Poor hemerHOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He has told so many lies and spun his political propaganda manure spreader in so many circles....................


he is NOW DIZZY and DISORIENTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


Stephen Harper - the MOST LIED ABOUT politician in Cdn history...................................


gave the go ahead for the Kinder Morgan pipeline.............................


then when Our idiot Boy Won the 2015 election - riding on a RECORD WAVE of BRIBERY and shameless vote buying.....................


that no responsible govt would accept..................................


Kinder Morgan CEO DID CONSULT WITH Our idiot BOY AND GOT ANOTHER "GO AHEAD" from the IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



But then Our idiot Boy ran into political trouble at those "town hall meetings" ..................................


with people raging about their home heating bills.................................


and environmentalists raging about lack of implementation of "green policies"....................................


and young people turning their backs on Trudope when he tried to speak to them.................................


because he told them to "get used to economic turmoil" and short term McJobs...........................................


which he had promised to REMEDY during the election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And of course there was the FIASCO of the Murdered, and Missing Indigenous Women Inquiry.........................


that went nowhere and achieved NOTHING except to let various radicals INSULT white people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And of course the LIE-beral promise to end native "boil water advisories on reserves" also FLOPPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-beral policy got CHEWED UP BY ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL REALITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So Our idiot Boy chose to score some points with environmentalists and with natives by ALLOWING RADICALS to shut down the



pipeline construction - while offering "greater consultation"..................................... ...


meaning much bigger bribes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And now the idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals are BACKED INTO A CORNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The gravy train has gone broke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We are in imminent danger of a face plant into the debt wall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!



The LIE-beral FIRST PROBLEM is what to do with the $4.7 billion dollar pipeline???????????????????


And since they BORROWED THE MONEY to buy that half finished project- it means the COST IS STEADILY CLIMBING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As interest charges click in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


And LIE-berals MISS- CALCULATED the level of RAGE that moth balling the pipeline would generate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And LIE-berals kicked their own asses by first insulting Saudi Arabia.........................................


and the letting it be known that we BUY billions of dollars in oil FROM Saudi Arabia.........................................


and BILLIONS OF DOLLARS MORE from the Venezuelan Socialist Pest Hole that is being DESTROYED by its dictator Maduro.........


while at the same time Our idiot Boy is KILLING THE Cdn oil patch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy is demonstrating MORE CONCERN for Socialist Venezuela than for Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



If LIE-berals got any more short sighted and myopic on political matters................................


they could qualify for bulk discounts on the purchase of white canes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are groping through the political fog - of their own creation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


They are blundering along like the three blind mice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And if there is any justice - they will lose more than their tales in the next election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Mowich
Conservative
+3
#1249
Trudeau breaches federal ethics rules yet again, missing deadline for financial statement

OTTAWA — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has run afoul of federal ethics rules yet again — this time missing the deadline for filing a financial disclosure statement with the ethics commissioner.

Every MP is required to file a disclosure statement within 60 days of his or her election being published in the Canada Gazette; in Trudeau’s case, the deadline was Jan. 13.

Of the 338 MPs elected last October, only 13, including Trudeau, had failed to file their statements as of Feb. 5, the last time commissioner Mario Dion’s office updated a status report on members’ compliance with the disclosure requirement.

The Prime Minister’s Office says the failure to file was an administrative oversight that is being corrected.

The compliance status report, available on the ethics commissioner’s website, is to be updated again Wednesday.

There is no penalty for missing the deadline for filing the statements, in which MPs are supposed to detail their own and family members’ private interests, as a hedge against winding up in a conflict of interest.

Trudeau has twice been found to have violated the Conflict of Interest Act: by accepting a 2016 family vacation on the private Bahamian island owned by the Aga Khan, billionaire spiritual leader of the world’s Ismaili Muslims; and by improperly pressuring his former attorney general, Jody Wilson-Raybould, to intervene to stop the criminal prosecution of Montreal engineering giant SNC-Lavalin.

Others who had not filed their disclosure statements as of Feb. 5 included Bloc Quebecois Leader Yves-Francois Blanchet, Liberal MPs Wayne Easter and Hedy Fry, and Conservative MPs John Barlow and Arnold Viersen.

nationalpost.com/news/world/trudeau-runs-afoul-of-federal-ethics-rules-yet-again-missing-deadline-for-financial-statement


So much for 'welcoming' the probe.
 
spilledthebeer
#1250
Quote: Originally Posted by Mowich View Post

Trudeau breaches federal ethics rules yet again, missing deadline for financial statement

OTTAWA — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has run afoul of federal ethics rules yet again — this time missing the deadline for filing a financial disclosure statement with the ethics commissioner.

Every MP is required to file a disclosure statement within 60 days of his or her election being published in the Canada Gazette; in Trudeau’s case, the deadline was Jan. 13.

Of the 338 MPs elected last October, only 13, including Trudeau, had failed to file their statements as of Feb. 5, the last time commissioner Mario Dion’s office updated a status report on members’ compliance with the disclosure requirement.

The Prime Minister’s Office says the failure to file was an administrative oversight that is being corrected.

The compliance status report, available on the ethics commissioner’s website, is to be updated again Wednesday.

There is no penalty for missing the deadline for filing the statements, in which MPs are supposed to detail their own and family members’ private interests, as a hedge against winding up in a conflict of interest.

Trudeau has twice been found to have violated the Conflict of Interest Act: by accepting a 2016 family vacation on the private Bahamian island owned by the Aga Khan, billionaire spiritual leader of the world’s Ismaili Muslims; and by improperly pressuring his former attorney general, Jody Wilson-Raybould, to intervene to stop the criminal prosecution of Montreal engineering giant SNC-Lavalin.

Others who had not filed their disclosure statements as of Feb. 5 included Bloc Quebecois Leader Yves-Francois Blanchet, Liberal MPs Wayne Easter and Hedy Fry, and Conservative MPs John Barlow and Arnold Viersen.

nationalpost.com/news/world/trudeau-runs-afoul-of-federal-ethics-rules-yet-again-missing-deadline-for-financial-statement


So much for 'welcoming' the probe.




TRUE DAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But then I have been saying all along that Our idiot Boy would welcome a police probe..........................


with even LESS enthusiasm than a prostate exam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As for his having "forgotten" to fill in forms for the ethics commissioner.........................


maybe we should ask if he is trying to arrange to SELL his shares in Bombardier FIRST?????????????????????


After all - that is exactly the sort of thing finance minister Bill Morneau was CONVICTED OF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals make a game of playing fast and loose with public disclosure of anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And they DO NOT wish to discuss the fact that there at least FOUR other LIE-berals accused .........................


of using that same INADEQUATE separation of personal and political biz shielding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Who knows if anything has changed since then????????????????????????
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+2
#1251
Quote: Originally Posted by Mowich View Post

Trudeau breaches federal ethics rules yet again, missing deadline for financial statement

OTTAWA — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has run afoul of federal ethics rules yet again — this time missing the deadline for filing a financial disclosure statement with the ethics commissioner.

Every MP is required to file a disclosure statement within 60 days of his or her election being published in the Canada Gazette; in Trudeau’s case, the deadline was Jan. 13.

Of the 338 MPs elected last October, only 13, including Trudeau, had failed to file their statements as of Feb. 5, the last time commissioner Mario Dion’s office updated a status report on members’ compliance with the disclosure requirement.

The Prime Minister’s Office says the failure to file was an administrative oversight that is being corrected.

The compliance status report, available on the ethics commissioner’s website, is to be updated again Wednesday.

There is no penalty for missing the deadline for filing the statements, in which MPs are supposed to detail their own and family members’ private interests, as a hedge against winding up in a conflict of interest.

Trudeau has twice been found to have violated the Conflict of Interest Act: by accepting a 2016 family vacation on the private Bahamian island owned by the Aga Khan, billionaire spiritual leader of the world’s Ismaili Muslims; and by improperly pressuring his former attorney general, Jody Wilson-Raybould, to intervene to stop the criminal prosecution of Montreal engineering giant SNC-Lavalin.

Others who had not filed their disclosure statements as of Feb. 5 included Bloc Quebecois Leader Yves-Francois Blanchet, Liberal MPs Wayne Easter and Hedy Fry, and Conservative MPs John Barlow and Arnold Viersen.

nationalpost.com/news/world/trudeau-runs-afoul-of-federal-ethics-rules-yet-again-missing-deadline-for-financial-statement


So much for 'welcoming' the probe.

Laws for you but not for me , what else is new .
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
+2
#1252
After the SNC Lavalin Goat Rodeo & the Admiral Mark Norman Which Hunt & the ostracizing of Wilson-Raybould and Philpott by our international feminist Woke selfie-king along with the string of joke Ethics Commission "pee pee whacks" repeatedly upon "Justin 'do as I say & not as I do' Trudeau" with no real consequences....are the current string of blockages and complete ignoring of the courts injunctions against them any surprise? If our own PM blatantly flaunts the law and not only faces zero consequences but is voted in again for a second term (Seriously Canada, what the Hell?), then why should others bother following this Rule of Law thing if it's not in line with their personal agendas and screw everyone else?

Thank you Mr Trudeau for setting multiple precedents for these arseholes to follow....with the unfortunate situation being Mr Trudeau is our current PM (again.....Seriously Canada...twice?) in the position of being the one to do something about the interruption of Inter-provincial trade and commerce (that's a Federal responsibility isn't it) and he's jumping right on that responsibility by stating that "Canada is a Nation of laws and that this is a provincial issue (?) and that dialog is needed" from Senegal or Germany or Ethiopia or wherever the current string of Selfies is needed, but on a positive note he does say that it's "an issue that is of concern".....?

http://globalnews.ca/news/6551554/justin-trudeau-africa-protest-response/

Canada is a nation of laws, a nation with courts and governance, and a nation which at times of unrest, law-breaking, crisis and uncertainty, looks particularly to its prime minister for leadership.

Today, Canada finds itself slipping into lawlessness with law-enforcement increasingly reduced to impotence by paralyzed political leadership.

Cases in point: British Columbia MLAs being denied entry to the provincial legislature; intersections in Toronto faced with clogging; and Canada’s historic economic life-blood rail system stuttering to a halt, all due to expanding solidarity protests relating to the ongoing dispute over a B.C. pipeline.

As the nation slid off the rails this week (literally), where was the prime minister? He was touring Africa in pursuit of a shiny UN trinket — and a temporary one at that.

His response to the Canadian distress? From Africa, Trudeau called for meaningful talks on the growing crisis, delegating actual speaking parts on home soil Transport Minister Marc Garneau, whose contribution consisted primarily of declaring that while blocking rail lines is unlawful, it’s not Ottawa’s responsibility to sort things out. That, claimed the minister, falls on provincial governments. (???)

With respect to Garneau, he’s not who Canadians expect to lead them to a speedy resolution to chaos — that responsibility rests on the shoulders of the prime minister.

It is Trudeau who should be addressing B.C. hereditary chiefs opposing the Coastal GasLink pipeline and directing attention to the British Columbia Supreme Court decision that empowers the RCMP to end the blocking of pipeline construction and gives them powers of arrest for those who refuse to disperse.

Trudeau might choose to highlight elected chiefs and councils of the Wet’suwet’en bands who are in agreement with Coastal GasLink and who have signed documentation in that regard, recognizing economic benefits which will follow.

The prime minister of Canada has considerable power and influence and should be engaging all available options to end what is a multi-pronged assault on public well-being, as well as on the economic stability of this nation — an assault which has grown well past legal tolerance for public protest.

On Friday, Trudeau was pursuing face time at a security conference in Munich, after which he was to jet to Barbados for the Caricom Conference with heads of Caribbean governments. His place is in Canada. If rule-by-mob isn’t effectively countered it will again be on display whenever an opportunity presents.
 
Hoid
#1253
The SNC Lavalin thing lost the Conservatives the election.

It was not enough and they had nothing else.
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#1254
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

The SNC Lavalin thing lost the Conservatives the election.

It was not enough and they had nothing else.








Hey hemerHOID.....................why dont you tell us what your home planet looks like?????????????????


You sure aint from around here Space CADET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Our idiot Boy Justin is being more foolish than usual as he insists that the pipeline and native blockade issue is “COMPLICATED”!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here are some questions that can be answered as yes or no for him:::

Natives insist that their “land” is SOVEREIGN - and that Cdn law - meaning laws made by whites do not apply - so are natives citizens of Canada or not?????????

All native reserves HAVE ELECTED GOVTS - with those local govts HAVING SIGNED AGREEMENTS with pipeline builders allowing construction across reserves - DO LIE-berals now want to tell us those elected govt - ARE SOMEHOW INVALID AND MAY BE IGNORED BY RADICALS???????

The “hereditary chiefs” who are organizing the pipeline resistance represent a MINORITY OF NATIVES ON RESERVES - so DO LIE-berals AGREE THAT MAJORITY RULE SHOULD NOT APPLY ON NATIVE RESERVES?????????

LIE-berals tell us they DEPLORE any foreign influence in Cdn politics -and yet WE KNOW that native protestors are OFTEN being financed to some degree by foreign action groups such as The Tides Foundation and Leadnow - with these foreign groups often promoting a SOCIALIST AGENDA that is NOT suitable to most Cdns - are LIE-beral being TWO FACED BY IGNORING SUCH FOREIGN INFLUENCES????

Some foreign political influences in Canada seek merely to shut down our oil patch - so that THEIR OIL RESERVES WILL BE MORE VALUABLE - and do LIE-berals not consider this selfish action not to be HARMFUL TO CDNS?????????????

DO LIE-berals CARE if Cdns are economically harmed - just so long as LIE-berals keep winning native votes and just so long as Cdn oil shipments are hampered in accordance with stated LIE-beral desire to KILL THE CDN OIL PATCH????????????????

Hereditary chiefs claim stewardship of lands OUTSIDE the specified reserves - is this land legally ceded or not???????????????

If the lands outside the reserves - that hereditary chiefs are claiming control of were in fact ceded - as Cdns have traditionally believed - then are natives not engaged in INSURRECTION of a criminal nature?????????????????

LIE-berals have made it clear that resource extraction companies must pay royalties to nearby native reserves whenever such companies begin operations on “Crown Land” - meaning land OWNED BY GOVT - with the resources being SOLD BY GOVT - and giving natives a cut of the profits - but does such a sharing of revenue GIVE NATIVES OWNERSHIP OF CROWN LANDS THAT ARE GENERALLY CONSIDERED AS BEING IN GOVT CONTROL???????????

Natives insist they have a right to hunt and fish as and where they please - but are natives being encouraged by shameless LIE-berals to RE-CLAIM vacant land that they have hunted on - even though old treaties REFER TO SPECIFIC RESERVE GEOGRAPHICAL AREAS set aside for natives??????

Natives claim they have the right to hunt and fish as they please without govt restriction - yet Treaty Seven which takes in most of the prairie provinces and part of B.C. contains SPECIFIC REFERENCE to govt being entitled to enact such “Conservation Laws as it deems necessary” - thus it would appear that natives on Crown Land ARE SUBJECT to Cdn hunting and fishing laws - and why did LIE-berals encourage natives to think otherwise??????????

ALL CDNS have the same right to hunt and fish and camp on Crown Land - subject to Conservation Laws as natives do - thus CAN WE ALSO CLAIM OWNERSHIP OF lands - THAT DO DO NOT BELONG TO A SPECIFIED RESERVE??????????????

This question is relevant due to the arrest of a guy trying to get his pick up truck into a Crown Land camping spot - by cutting some trees blocking his route - thus settling issues of CROWN LAND RIGHTS AND OWNERSHIP SEEMS IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When Pierre Trudope was in his first term as prime minister - he and his Indian Affairs Minister Jean Chretien came up with the idea of buying native votes with “Land Claims” - and in truth the size of reserves and sort of compensation give to native tribes across the country varied rather widely and thus it seemed fair to allow natives - on SOME RESERVES to claim and negotiate better deals- BUT in a shameless hunt for votes - LIE-berals encouraged ALL NATIVES to demand MORE and to dream big in their desires - and then LIE-berals FAILED TO DELIVER - due to the cost of the demands and due to the reaction of the public at being saddled with such costs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thus we can offer a one word answer to the question: “Is the current insurrection being fueled by native frustration over un-met LIE-beral promises - that they can NEVER ACTUALLY AFFORD TO HONOUR????????????

Native hereditary chiefs are not elected and are not recognized under Cdn law and thus have no more legal authority either in Canadian law or on native reserves than other citizens - and they are staging an illegal blockade in defiance of Cdn Law- should they be JAILED for their criminal actions??????????

Native protestors are carrying signs stating “Not your land” and “Not your laws” - so we should specify yes or no to historic native legal obligations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Our idiot Boy Justin tells us “It is not the job of govt to tell police how to do their job”!! REALLY?? Is it NOT THE JOB OF GOVT TO MAKE LAWS THAT GUIDE COPS IN EVERY MOMENT OF THEIR WORK DAY??????????

Our idiot Boy tells us that “it is not the job of govt to tell cops how to do their job” - but COPS HAVE COURT ISSUED INJUNCTIONS IN HAND - AND ARE NOT ENFORCING THEM!! SO ARE SENIOR LIE-berals in our govt TELLING COPS NOT TO ACT ON THE JUDGES LEGAL ORDERS????????????

Our idiot Boy has told us he wants to KILL the entire Cdn oil patch and end fossil fuel use in Canada - thus it looks as if Our idiot Boy SEES NATIVE PROTESTORS AS HIS ALLIES AGAINST OIL - is Our idiot Boy actually AIDING THE PROTESTORS - by refusing to take logical action???????????

Natives claim “Our laws” do not apply to them - yet natives must have a drivers license and valid insurance to drive on the road - and natives who steal from farmers or from stores will be arrested and prosecuted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where does native obligation to comply with Cdn Law NOW END???

And shall we ask by what authority LIE-berals have apparently MOVED TO LEGAL GOAL POSTS?????????????????

Further - the number of number of natives in govt run jails is proportionally MUCH HIGHER than the general Cdn population - thus IT IS CLEAR THAT AT LEAST SOME LAWS APPLY TO NATIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So - we should ask - when did the law prohibiting trespassing and blocking roads and threatening construction workers and cops GET RESCINDED?????????????

We know that tobacco smoke causes cancer and that govt puts heavy taxes on tobacco to discourage smoking - yet MASSIVE QUANTITIES of cigarettes are illegally sold in native smoke shacks - without any real opposition from govt - thus we should ask - are LIE-berals that hungry for native votes that they will IGNORE ARMED CRIMINAL GANGS OPENLY SELLING A HARMFUL AND ADDICTIVE PRODUCT TO THE PUBLIC - while at the same time the gangs openly defy Cdn tax laws?????????????

In related news - selling a product and refusing to collect and remit the specified taxes on that product is a crime in Canada - yet cops ARE NOT CLOSING DOWN ILLEGAL SMOKE SHOPS AND NOT CONFISCATING THE CONTRABAND PRODUCT - AND DID LIE-berals tell cops NOT to raid the smoke shops - as a way of catering to natives and buying votes for LIE-berals??????

Shall we not agree that the VAST PROPORTION of the current native “crisis” can be laid at the feet of shameless vote buying LIE-berals who have been encouraging natives to act like petulant children since 1970 and the first term in office of Our NASTY PET - Pierre Trudope ????????????????

Our idiot Boy has already altered the jury selection process in order to make it easier to excuse drunken native thieves such as Colton Boushie when they run into conflicts with white victims such as Gerald Stanley and Ed Maurice - and Our idiot Boy has apparently instructed cops NOT to handle native protestors in the standard fashion normally used to deal with trespassers and vandals so we NEED TO ASK “WHEN THE LAWS AND CIVIL RIGHTS OF CANADA WERE ALTERED IN FAVOUR OF NATIVES??????????????

WE NEED AN HONEST LIE-BERAL ANSWER RE WHETHER NATIVES ARE CITIZENS OR NOT??????????????????

Natives DEMAND THEIR “RIGHTS” - but what about OUR RIGHTS TO CARRY ON BIZ - that natives OUTSIDE THEIR RESERVES ARE BLOCKING????????????

NATIVE PROTESTORS SAY::::

“NOT YOUR LAND”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOT YOUR LAWS”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WE SHOULD RESPOND THUS:::

“NOT YOUR WELFARE PAYMENTS”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

“NOT YOUR BABY BONUS BENEFITS”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

“NOT YOUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

“NOT YOUR GOVT SUPPLIED HOUSING”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
+1
#1255
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

The SNC Lavalin thing lost the Conservatives the election.

It was not enough and they had nothing else.

Actually, I believe this lost the Conservatives the last federal election:
https://trudeaumetre.polimeter.org/promise/1201

http://nationalpost.com/opinion/andrew-coyne-liberals-600m-aid-package-for-news-media-will-irrevocably-politicize-the-press

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/10/27/thought-britain-had-biased-left-wing-media-spent-time-canada/

http://www.thepostmillennial.com/biased-establishment-media-gives-trudeau-free-pass-on-being-very-opposed-to-abortion/
 
spilledthebeer
#1256
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

Actually, I believe this lost the Conservatives the last federal election:
https://trudeaumetre.polimeter.org/promise/1201

http://nationalpost.com/opinion/andrew-coyne-liberals-600m-aid-package-for-news-media-will-irrevocably-politicize-the-press

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/10/27/thought-britain-had-biased-left-wing-media-spent-time-canada/

http://www.thepostmillennial.com/biased-establishment-media-gives-trudeau-free-pass-on-being-very-opposed-to-abortion/




HemerHOID has his head buried so deeply in the LIE-beral political trough............................


that he no longer comprehends or is even aware of the connection...........................


between HOG GRAVY and LIE-beral deficits ......................................


and LIE-berals BUYING VOTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#1257
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

HemerHOID has his head buried so deeply in the LIE-beral political trough............................


that he no longer comprehends or is even aware of the connection...........................


between HOG GRAVY and LIE-beral deficits ......................................


and LIE-berals BUYING VOTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Are Hoids conclusion or observations even worth considering let alone commenting on? Everyone on here with an iota of intelligence recognized his trolling propensities months ago.
 
spilledthebeer
#1258
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Are Hoids conclusion or observations even worth considering let alone commenting on? Everyone on here with an iota of intelligence recognized his trolling propensities months ago.




I suggest you are MISTAKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!



HemerHOID USED TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME DEFENDING LIE-beral electric TOY vehicles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HemerHOID has been so relentlessly mocked for his NONSENSE....................


that he no longer says much about LIE-beral electric TOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But such is the RELENTLESS GRAVY GRABBING GREED of all LIE-berals..............................


that he would go right back to spewing crap about electric TOYS.........................


right after the pressure and MOCKERY on him was relaxed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And we may say the same thing about T-bonesforbrains - the self professed Yankee lawyer.....................



who might actually be a security guard - and probably a WHITE ONE AT THAT.........................


apparently working at a MALL in Richmond Hill Ontari-owe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


T-bonesforbrains used to relentlessly slam cops using all manner of distortions of truth and deliberate false statements!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But he has been mocked so relentlessly that he has virtually stopped speaking about cops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


but such is the nature of a LIE-beral that THEY NEVER STOP PUSHING THEIR CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral policy and opinion are like sewage oozing from an OLD PIPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The LIE-beral CRAP squeezes forward into ANY OPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


A Conservative sees a problem and fixes it and then walks away - back to normal routine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The LIE-beral looks for opportunity to GRAB GRAVY - and keeps grabbing till FORCED TO STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals CANNOT GAIN POWER without massive BRIBERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hence the $1.5 billion dollar deficit of Stephen Harper in 2015 .........................


which was the remnant of the 2008 meltdown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Harper PLANNED to balance the books in 2016 but did not get the chance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Versus the DELIBERATE 2016 LIE-beral DEFICIT OF THIRTY BILLION DOLLARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


How is it that Conservatives can balance the books and LIE-berals can happily WASTE on such a scale????????????????


UNLESS MASSIVE BRIBERY OF VOTERS IS INVOLVED?????????????????????????


And in the next three years - Our idiot Boy ran a series of TWENTY BILLION DOLLAR DEFICITS.........................


and the INCREDIBLE WASTE SCARED THE CDN PUBLIC SO BADLY.......................


THAT EVEN FORMERLY LOYAL HOGS FAILED TO SUPPORT THE IDIOT BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are SO WASTEFUL that NINETY BILLION DOLLARS in bribe money between 2016 and 2019............................


PLUS ANOTHER THIRTY BILLION DOLLARS IN PROMISED BRIBE MONEY..........................


during the 2019 election WAS NOT ENOUGH TO BUY A LIE-beral majority govt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral policy has A LOT IN COMMON WITH RUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NEITHER ONE SLEEPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



You DO NOT want either rust or LIE-beral greed eating at anything you own!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!