Syria 'chemical attack': Turkey says tests confirm Sarin was used


Danbones
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Syria 'chemical attack': Turkey says tests confirm Sarin was used

Turkey says it has "concrete evidence" the nerve agent Sarin was used in a suspected attack by Syrian government forces a week ago, state media report.

Health Minister Recep Akdag was quoted by the Anadolu news agency as saying traces of one of the decomposition products of Sarin had been detected in the blood and urine of several victims.

At least 89 people were killed in the incident in rebel-held Khan Sheikhoun.
Syria's government has repeatedly denied using any chemical weapons.

Syria 'chemical attack': Turkey says tests confirm Sarin was used - BBC News


ok, like the last time again?

"Hersh’s Findings

Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh further demolished the Assad-sarin myth in an article that traced the chemicals back to Turkish intelligence, but the mainstream U.S. media was so hostile to any dissenting view on the Assad-did-it groupthink that Hersh had to publish his findings in the London Review of Books. Later, Turkish police and opposition officials corroborated much of Hersh’s findings – and I’ve been told that U.S. intelligence analysts now agree, at least generally, with Hersh’s conclusions.


Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh
But the Times never directly repudiated its earlier accusations against Assad’s military, thus allowing the groupthink to be sustained that Assad was responsible for the 2013 attack. That history became important again on Tuesday when another incident – also apparently involving sarin or a similar poison gas – claimed lives in an Al Qaeda-dominated area of northern Syria.

The U.S. mainstream media (along with President Trump and his top aides) immediately blamed Assad again, with Trump and his team threatening to launch a retaliatory military strike even without the approval of the United Nations Security Council. The 2013 case loomed large in the background with Trump implicitly referencing Obama’s presumed failure to enforce his “red line.”"
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/04/0...-sarin-claims/

QUESTION:
After the other proven lies like "no WMDs" or "the gulf of Tonkin" in the other wars:
Do the people who have to pay for these wars mind being lied to?
 
MHz
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Why does the West always think that testimony from one of their partners in crime is going to pass the smell test as far as what actually happened compared to what the West wants the world to believe what happened? Oh yeah, because that is the only 'proof' they have.
 
Danbones
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Donald Trump says U.S. is not going to get involved in Syria: 'It's very bad for mankind'

President Donald Trump says the U.S. is not going to get involved in Syria but that he had to act because of chemical attacks there.

His comments, aired Wednesday on Fox Business News, come less than a week after Trump ordered a retaliatory strike on Syria based on U.S. evidence that Syrian President Bashar Assad attacked civilians with chemical weapons.

Trump said, “when I saw that, I said we have to do something.”

But he also appeared to rule out deeper involvement, saying: “Are we going to get involved with Syria? No.”

Trump also warned that Russian President Vladimir Putin, in backing Assad, is supporting someone who is “truly an evil person.”

That, Trump said, is “very bad for Russia” and “very bad for mankind” and the world.
Donald Trump says U.S. is not going to get involved in Syria: 'It's very bad for

well...maybe they haven't this time

here is to hoping...but they sure do TALK a lot for better or worse.

Thank gawd it wasn't boot (the butcher of WACO) Hillary's finger on the trigger.
 
MHz
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Basically the US blinked.
The people of Syria don't think Assad is evil and that is the only opinion that counts. perhaps trump should resign if the syrian people think he is evil which would have to be the case considering the recent events.

The evil ones are the ones trying to force biblical prophecy into some form of unfolding so they can advance their own agenda in the area. To rectify that trump would have to scrap most if his 'help' and certainly all of the Pentegram brass.
 
Danbones
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Yah, they are using the Christian biblical and the Muslim and the Jewish religions to manipulate everyone they can into basically what could be called Luciferian slavery.

Here is another good example of the types of lies we are being told:

Melania Trump accepts damages from Daily Mail over model claims
An article published in the newspaper "included false and defamatory claims" about her work as a model, the High Court hears.
Melania Trump accepts damages from Daily Mail over model claims
 
MHz
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Perhaps her reason for staying away from DC is she is too moral to be able to tolerate the lies and bullshit that are DC to the very core.
 
Cliffy
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JFK’s Nephew Blows the Whistle on Syria — ISIS is a Product of US Intervention for Oil
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. delivered a searingly astute summation concerning the truth behind the U.S.’ presence in the Middle East — its subservience to the fossil fuel industry’s most precious commodity: OIL.
“As we focus on the rise of ISIS and the search for the source of the savagery that took so many lives in Paris and San Bernardino, we might want to look beyond the convenient explanations of religion and ideology and focus on the more complex rationales of history and oil, which mostly point the finger of blame for terrorism back at the champions of militarism, imperialism and petroleum here on our own shores,” Kennedy advised in an editorial for Ecowatch .
Kennedy’s critical look at the United States’ history of meddling, interventionism, and hegemony — almost exclusively to maintain the flow of oil — makes apparent its role in destabilizing the entire Middle East, particularly Syria. Indeed, more than fifty years of violent intercession — ultimately in the interest of the fossil fuel industry — has stoked enormous resentments. Essentially, American geostrategic corporatism — under the guise of militaristic peacekeeping — created the same violent Islamic Jihadism the U.S. now battles against.
Beginning during the Eisenhower Administration, Arab sovereignty and the Middle East nations’ Cold War neutrality were perceived as threats to American access to oil.

Read more at JFK's Nephew Blows the Whistle on Syria -- ISIS is a Product of US Intervention for Oil
 
Danbones
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yup, oil...and petro dollars

Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Perhaps her reason for staying away from DC is she is too moral to be able to tolerate the lies and bullshit that are DC to the very core.

It's a good example of the press and it's model of self disintegration
 
MHz
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Her methods are frowned on when it is used against them. Hypocrites, one and all. The one thing they can never control is Murphy's Law and that will bite them in the a*s every single time.
 
Danbones
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thank Murphy I hate him too
lol
Don't plan for what will go right - plan for what will go wrong
 
Ludlow
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Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Why does the West always think that testimony from one of their partners in crime is going to pass the smell test as far as what actually happened compared to what the West wants the world to believe what happened? Oh yeah, because that is the only 'proof' they have.

why does the megaloon not take his pills.
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

thank Murphy I hate him too
lol
Don't plan for what will go right - plan for what will go wrong

I don't have to plan for the wrong things, they happen all on their own. lol

Blitzkrieg: When Air Defense Means Aggression | New Eastern Outlook
I March, 2017, Israel launched a series of air assaults on Syria. One attack near the ancient city of Palmyra brought about a series of events we will deal with today. The implications for modern warfare not only change the rules as we know them but expose hypocrisy at the heart of NATO policy. This Israeli attack which may have brought about the downing of an IAF F15E aircraft by Syrian air defense missiles was allegedly intended, according to Israel, to stop Hezbollah from transferring advanced weapons to Lebanon. Those weapons would be used to resist an expected Israeli assault on that nation or to be used to retaliate against expected Israeli bombing of Beirut residential neighborhoods as seen during the 2006 war.
One issue, of course, is that there were no Hezbollah units within more than a hundred miles of Palmyra, instead Israel was, as has been the case over and over, flying air support for ISIS fighters under attack by the Syrian Army and its Russian allies.
There is something far more important here. When Israel planned the attack, which is expressed in military terms as the “package,” a key component involved use of Israel’s “Iron Dome” air defense system to support the attack.
What this means is that the Iron Dome is not intended for defense at all. There has long been a suspicion that the reports of Israel using million dollar missiles to intercept small Hamas rockets, which many also believe may have never existed in the first place, are simply “fake news.”
You see, no missile air defense system, if confronted with thousands of rockets, and Israel’s enemies have not just thousands but tens of thousands of conventional warhead guided missiles, can have any real effect. The Iron Dome is useless, a fraud.
Moreover, sources in the Obama administration indicate that without American AEGIS ships offshore coordinating targeting and augmenting with their SM3 missiles, the Iron Dome is ineffective. During the low point of US/Israel relations in 2013, the US removed the AEGIS component from the Iron Dome system and redeployed it to the Black Sea.
There, the US was building, and may have secretly deployed long before announced, an onshore AEGIS system. We will get into this later as it is important. Ships like the USS Donald Cook, mysteriously disabled during a Russian “flyby,” made up an “air defense” system that covered hundreds of miles into Russia. Is this “defense” at all? This is the question we are going to address.
As we get back to the Syria attack and the “package,” it became clear that the Iron Dome was being used not for defense but to supply air superiority for the Israeli attack on Syria. The radars placed on the occupied Golan Heights and other capabilities, in violation of UN accord, look across Syria into Iraq and even Jordan.
Combined with Patriot, Arrow and “David’s Sling” missiles, according to Israeli sources, Israel can protect attacking fighters up to 200 miles inside Syria. You see, when attacking fighter bombers head across the border, the long range missiles, aided by radars set right on the border, are used to negate Syrian defenses, not protect “Israel.”
Blitzkrieg: When Air Defense Means Aggression | New Eastern Outlook




http://feastandfamine.blogspot.ca/2017/04/poison-gas.html


Poison Intell

Many in the US feel betrayed by recent bellicosity against Syria, which may, yet again, have been based on a False Flag narrative, enriching psychopaths, neocons and arms suppliers.

As one webmaster, Mike Rivero, phrased it with graphics, on an iconic red baseball cap: Make America Ashamed Again.

(I would gladly post said pic, but google no longer permits free pic posting. And also reduces font size to miniscule-illegible; hopefully not again. Regrets to readers.)

Will sound, adult input be permitted by an embattled POTUS? Or will circling the wagons rule, around cozy nepotism and perhaps sycophants?

Beware of flattery...

Meanwhile, the Military Industrial Complex battens on war, and does not ever own up to its legacy of horrors.

The latest Sarin accusations may be bogus as to source, but the military's Nam use of Monsanto's Agent Orange has not gone away.

Am old enough to have watched the returning Viet Nam vets; many of those still living number among the homeless.

A man from Taos Pueblo stands by the highway once a month or so, asking for help as a Disabled Veteran. Cannot be easy to stand there; he does not walk well. Many license plates have the symbol, "DV" on them. Legacy indeed.

When I had an organic farm, I was poisoned by power company helicopter spraying the Agent Orange derivative, Agent White, aka 2,4-D.

I went into acute collapse, liver, kidneys, etc. But when the pain spread to my childbearing-age ovaries, I fell to the floor and wept.

https://www.infowars.com/u-s-intelli...om-saudi-base/
Award-winning Iran-Contra journalist Robert Parry says the chemical weapons attack in Syria was launched from a joint Saudi-Israeli special operations base in Jordan, according to his intelligence sources.
U.S. intelligence analysts determined that a drone was responsible for the attack and “eventually came to believe that the flight was launched in Jordan from a Saudi-Israeli special operations base for supporting Syrian rebels,” according to the source.
“The suspected reason for the poison gas was to create an incident that would reverse the Trump administration’s announcement in late March that it was no longer seeking the removal of President Bashar al-Assad,” writes Parry.

As we highlighted back in 2013 after another chemical weapons attack in Ghouta that was blamed on Assad, rebels freely admitted to Associated Press correspondent Dale Gavlak that they had been given the weapons by Saudi Arabia but had “handled the weapons improperly and set off the explosions.”
Parry’s background lends the information credibility. He covered the Iran-Contra scandal for the Associated Press and Newsweek and was later given a George Polk award for his work on intelligence matters.
The contention that the incident was a “false flag” to create a justification for air strikes has also been voiced by former Congressman Ron Paul as well as numerous other prominent voices, including Vladimir Putin himself, who went on to warn that rebels could now stage a similar incident in Damascus to goad the U.S. into toppling Assad.
Whoever was responsible for the attack does not take away from the horror of the event and the fact that innocent people and children died.


Those Condemning Syria Have Themselves Recently Used Chemical Weapons
← MIT Rocket Scientist: White House Claims on Syria Chemical Attack “Cannot Be True”

Those Condemning Syria Have Themselves Recently Used Chemical Weapons

Posted on April 12, 2017 by WashingtonsBlog
The Trump administration accuses the Syrian government of using chemical weapons, and claims this is a rare occurrence from a rogue government.
Not only did Sean Spicer say that Hitler never used chemical weapons, but Secretary of Defense Mattis said:
Even in World War II chemical weapons were not used on battlefields. Even in World War II, chemical weapons were not used on battlefields. Even in the Korean War, they were not used on battlefields.
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Since World War I there’s been an international convention on this.

But U.S. used chemical weapons against civilians in Iraq in 2004. Evidence here, here, here, here, here, here. The use of those weapons greatly increased the rate of birth defects.
The U.S. armed and supported Iraq after it invaded Iran and engaged in a long, bloody war which included the use of chemical weapons. The U.S. provided chemical weapons to Saddam Hussein to use against Iran.


CONFIRMED: US sharply cuts air operations in Syria fearing Russian missiles
The media is barely reporting the fact but the immediate effect of the US missiles strike on Syria’s Sharyat air base has been to reduce US air force flights over Syria as the US worries about Moscow’s reaction.
That this is so is confirmed by the New York Times which – presumably because its anti-Trump campaign overrides all other issues – has actually been doing some proper reporting about the Syrian conflict following the US missile strike.
This is all set out by New York Times in the following article, which says the following:
The American-led task force that is battling the Islamic State has sharply reduced airstrikes against the militants in Syria as commanders assess whether Syrian government forces or their Russian allies plan to respond to the United States’ cruise missile strike on a Syrian airfield this past week, American officials said.
The precautionary move, revealed in statistics made public by the command on Saturday, was taken as Russian officials have threatened to suspend the communication line the American and Russian militaries use to notify each other about air operations in Syria.
So far, the Russian military does not appear to have taken any threatening actions, such as directing its battlefield radar or air defense systems to confront the Americans, or carrying out aggressive actions in the skies, United States officials said.
But officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal planning said the commanders needed time to determine whether the Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad, and the Russian military would treat the American cruise missile strike as a one-time operation that they would not respond to militarily. As a precaution, the Pentagon is flying patrols in Syrian skies with F-22 jets, the Air Force’s most advanced air-to-air fighter……
Some American and other Western counterterrorism officials have said the missile strike could………make the fight against the Islamic State in Syria more difficult.
“It seems clear that the strikes will complicate our efforts to pursue our counter-ISIS campaign in Syria,” said Matthew Olsen, a former director of the National Counterterrorism Center. “In particular, the ability to carry out U.S. airstrikes in Syria in support of the coalition against ISIS requires some degree of cooperation with Russia, which is now in serious jeopardy.”
Other security experts said that much depended on the Trump administration’s next steps, and how the Assad government and its Russian patrons responded.
“U.S. aircraft operating over Al-Tabqah are already ostensibly in range of the Russian S-400 system at the Humaymin Air Base, and we might see Russia deploy more air defense assets to Syria,” Jeremy Binnie, the Middle East editor of Jane’s Defense Weekly, said in an email. “But if the U.S. makes no moves to threaten Assad’s position, then they may well accept the punishment and move on.”
William McCants, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and the author of “The ISIS Apocalypse,” offered a similar assessment.
This is the military reality that is causing the US to give repeated assurances to the Russians that the missile strike on Sharyat air base – largely ineffective as it appears to have been – is intended as a one-off, and that in President Trump’s words: “Are we going to get involved in Syria? No.”


Large U.S. Military Convoy Seen Heading To New Base In Northern Syria
In what appears to be the second in a ramped up but gradual invasion of Syria by the United States, a massive convoy of U.S. military vehicles was seen making its way from Turkey to their new home in Kobane (Ayn al-Arab), in Northern Syria, Aleppo province.
A new report by Al-Masdar reveals satellite imagery that was able to capture the vehicles on their way to the newly constructed base.
Although the base is yet to be fully completed, it appears to be mostly finished as satellite imagery taken on April 11 shows.


The staffing of an American military base in Northern Syria comes only days after 20 U.S. armored vehicles entered Syria from the Jordanian border, an incident that itself took place only days after the United States launched 59 Tomahawk missiles into Idlib Province, hitting the al-Sha’aryat airbase.

Some of the missiles found their way into the al-Sha’aryat countryside, killing nine civilians, four of whom were children. Russia has condemned the U.S. act of aggression while Syria has repeated demands that the United States vacate the country, as its presence there is a violation of international law.
The United States’ presence in Syria has always been an illegal act of Western imperialism. However, we have finally reached a point where American aggression is threatening the stability of the world and posing the very real possibility of a third World War of the nuclear variety.
 
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https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/2...weapons-syria/
Coalition Strikes Daesh Depot With Chemical Weapons in Deir ez-Zor - Syrian MoD

The Syrian General Staff said that the US-led coalition struck a Daesh depot storing chemical weapons in Deir ez-Zor on Wednesday.

The Syrian military said that this fact proves that terrorists possess chemical weapons.
"The jets of the so-called US-led coalition launched a strike at about 17:30-17:50 [local time, 14:30-14:50 GMT] on a Daesh warehouse where many foreign fighters were present. First a white cloud and then a yellow one appeared at the site of the strike, which points at the presence of a large number of poisonous substances. A fire at the site continued until 22:30 [19:30 GMT]," the Syrian army's command statement obtained by Sputnik said.
According to the Syrian General Staff, the US-led coalition's strike killed several hundred people, including civilians. Hundreds were poisoned as a result of the strike on Daesh's headquarters and depot with chemical weapons.
"This confirms that Daesh and al-Nusra terrorists possess chemical weapons and are capable of using, obtaining and transporting it," the document said.
The Syrian army yet again denied possessing chemical weapons.
The news comes as Washington and its allies are blaming the Syrian government for a suspected chemical attack in the Syrian Idlib province on April 4.
Syrian opposition claimed on April 4 forces loyal to President Bashar Assad had used a chemical gas on people in the northwestern province, killing nearly 80 and injuring 200. Assad argued his government has no chemical weapons after agreeing to have them destroyed in 2013. He also ruled out having used chemicals against own people.
The Russian Defense Ministry said next day that the airstrike near Khan Shaykhun was carried out by Syrian aircraft, which struck a terrorist warehouse that stored chemical weapons slated for delivery to Iraq.

Trump's partners in crime seem to be chomping at the bit also.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/332181...rmy-positions/

AIR STRIKES Loud explosions heard on Syria-Lebanese border spark reports Israel has bombed Hezbollah fighters

'Loud explosions' have reportedly been heard near the Falita Barrens in northwest Damascus
LOUD explosions heard over Syria last night have sparked claims the Israeli Air Force has struck Hezbollah troops.
Initial reports suggested Israel may have targeted Syrian troops, but this claim was denied by pro-regime media.


The Falita Barrens are located near the Lebanese border-crossing, where there are said to be Hezbollah fighters.
The Lebanese Islamist group is a long-standing enemy of Israel that is fighting on the side of Assad’s regime.
Pro-regime news website al-Masdar this morning reported that the Syrian army is not present in the region, but the possibility remains Israel was striking Hezbollah.
It comes after Israel last month acknowledged its fighter jets struck at a military base in Syria.
In November Israeli forces killed four ISIS militants in the war-torn country in the first direct clash between the country and the terror group.
The jihadis opened fire on a military patrol on the Israeli-controlled section of the Golan Heights, a military spokesman said.
But the strike against Syrian army positions tonight is confirmed this would represent a major escalation in the civil war because Israeli’s arch enemy Iran backs the regime of Bashar al-Assad.

Trump get booted out of the Syrian air-space and sudden;y it is time for a different approach. Perhaps clean up Amerika first and then the rest of the planet wouldn't need him to clean up their places. Note to Trump, when the rebel fighters are from a lot of different nations it is not a civil war. America created the war so they are the ones that should back off and it would be over in a very short time. The war is about making it appear that some prophecy that favors Israelis unfolding. The twisted meaning of said prophecies are lies coming from Israel so that is who has been pulling the strings all along.Perhaps it is time for Trump to understand that fact and give upon the idea that any Jews are his friends and the one in his inner circle are Israeli-firsters and that can never be good for the America Trump claims to love. It appears he would sacrifice all Americans in a heartbeat.

Trump Says It Is Time to End Syria's 'Brutal Civil War'
Trump Says It Is Time to End Syria's 'Brutal Civil War'



US President Donald Trump told allies it was time to end Syria's "brutal" civil war Wednesday, as he branded the country's leader Bashar Assad a "butcher" and questioned Russia's role in a suspected chemical attack.
Trump, standing alongside NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, called on allies to "work together to resolve the disaster" in Syria and thanked them for condemning Assad's suspected sarin attack in Khan Sheikhun.
"Vicious slaughter of innocent civilians with chemical weapons including the barbaric killing of small and helpless children and babies must be forcefully rejected by any nation that values human life," Trump told reporters.
"That's a butcher. That's a butcher. So I felt we had to do something about it. I have absolutely no doubt we did the right thing, and it was very, very successfully done," he added.
"It is time to end this brutal civil war, defeat terrorists and allow refugees to return home."
Trump's comments came shortly after Russia vetoed a UN Security Council resolution that would have compelled Damascus to cooperate with an investigation of the attack.
Trump said it was "certainly possible" that Russia President Vladimir Putin knew about the attack, blamed on Assad, indicating Russian officials were present at the source airbase, which Trump later bombed.
"I would like to think that they didn't know, but certainly they could have. They were there. So we'll find out," he said.
Trump also praised China for abstaining during the UN vote. He met President Xi Jinping last week in Florida and spoke again to the Chinese leader on Tuesday.
"I think it's wonderful that they abstained," he said. "We're honored by the vote. That's the vote that should have taken place."


Children and babies don't have the same value when Trump is the one sending them to a painful early death.


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+200 Civilians Killed in Coalition Air Strike on West of Mosul Neighborhood
 
Cliffy
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Robert Parry: Syria chemical weapons attack was Israeli ‘false flag’

Award-winning Iran-Contra journalist Robert Parry says the chemical weapons attack in Syria was launched from a joint Saudi-Israeli special operations base in Jordan, according to his intelligence sources.

U.S. intelligence analysts determined that a drone was responsible for the attack and “eventually came to believe that the flight was launched in Jordan from a Saudi-Israeli special operations base for supporting Syrian rebels,” according to the source.
“The suspected reason for the poison gas was to create an incident that would reverse the Trump administration’s announcement in late March that it was no longer seeking the removal of President Bashar al-Assad,” writes Parry.
As we highlighted back in 2013 after another chemical weapons attack in Ghouta that was blamed on Assad, rebels freely admitted to Associated Press correspondent Dale Gavlak that they had been given the weapons by Saudi Arabia but had “handled the weapons improperly and set off the explosions.”



Robert Parry: Syria chemical weapons attack was Israeli
 
Danbones
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Those are barrel bomb containers in any case, not poison gas bombs as some have stated
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US Airstrike Kills Family of Eight Fleeing Syria Fighting
Five Children Among Slain in Attack Outside Tabqa
US Airstrike Kills Family of Eight Fleeing Syria Fighting -- News from Antiwar.com

right, but Assad...
...Just add that to the 500,000 children killed by sanctions in Iraq that were according to Albright
"well worth the price" of uninstalling the CIA's man Saddam
 
Danbones
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Photos From Syria Show White Helmets And Nusra/Qaeda Are The Same Organization

...After the liberation of East Aleppo, Beeley and a handful of independent journalists were able to travel to Sakhour and the M10 to investigate the aftermath of the battle. What they found was yet more evidence that the West’s precious White Helmets are nothing more than al-Nusra’s propaganda wing...
Photos From Syria Show White Helmets And Nusra/Qaeda Are The Same Organization

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