The left doesn't want to win the debate. They want to cancel the debate


Locutus
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#1
regarding our tolerant betters:

Over the weekend, I swung by Judge Jeanine's show to talk about one of the most malign trends of our time: the ever more open refusal by one side to permit those on the other side to speak. As I always say, I don't care what side you pick on the great questions of the age - climate change, gay marriage, Islam, transgendered bathrooms, whatever - but, if you're on the side that says the other guy isn't entitled to a side, you're on the wrong side.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali Tour Cancelled

Citing security issues, the Somalian-born activist calls off her scheduled Australian tour...


Let's just expand that "Somali-born activist" précis a little. She's not a dead white male like me or Charles Murray. As someone once said, Ayaan Hirsi Ali is everything the identity-group fetishists profess to dig: female, atheist, black, immigrant. But, because she does not toe the party line on Islam, her blackness washes off her like a bad dye job on a telly anchorman - and so do her femaleness and godlessness and immigrant status. And in the end she is Charles Murray, or Geert Wilders - or even David Duke. A black Somali woman is, it turns out, a "white supremacist".

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is someone who fled genital mutilation and arranged marriage in a backward, barbarous society to come to the west and live in freedom. Her first stop was the Netherlands. But the director of the film she wrote, Theo van Gogh, was murdered in the street, and the man who shot him then drove two knives through what was left of his chest pinning to it a five-page death-threat promising to do the same to Ayaan. So she was forced to leave the Netherlands, and has lived with round-the-clock security ever since. Now she has to cross Australia off the list, too. Where's next? Can she speak in Sweden? Or Canada? Ireland or Germany? She left Somalia to live as a western woman, only to watch the west turn itself into Somalia, incrementally but remorselessly, at least as far as free speech is concerned.

It began, as it always does, respectably enough. Four hundred Muslim women in Australia - academics, social workers, diversicrats, supposed "human-rights activists" - signed a petition objecting to her tour Down Under but all artfully crafted in the usual weaselly more-in-sorrow-than-in-anger shtick, concluding with:
Australia deserves better than this.
Aww, that's so cute! Did you all tilt your heads in unison and group-furrow your brows into concerned expressions? The petition title's a doozy too:
Ayaan Hirsi-Ali [sic] Does Not Speak For Us

read on kids

https://www.steynonline.com/7740/the-big-shut-up
 
mentalfloss
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The right needs to grow some balls and do something instead of whining like SJWs.
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
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#3  Top Rated Post
naw the right has to realize you can't argue with a sick mind
the left has to realize it's hive is infected
 
Johnnny
No Party Affiliation
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Quote: Originally Posted by Locutus View Post

regarding our tolerant betters:

Over the weekend, I swung by Judge Jeanine's show to talk about one of the most malign trends of our time: the ever more open refusal by one side to permit those on the other side to speak. As I always say, I don't care what side you pick on the great questions of the age - climate change, gay marriage, Islam, transgendered bathrooms, whatever - but, if you're on the side that says the other guy isn't entitled to a side, you're on the wrong side.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali Tour Cancelled

Citing security issues, the Somalian-born activist calls off her scheduled Australian tour...


Let's just expand that "Somali-born activist" précis a little. She's not a dead white male like me or Charles Murray. As someone once said, Ayaan Hirsi Ali is everything the identity-group fetishists profess to dig: female, atheist, black, immigrant. But, because she does not toe the party line on Islam, her blackness washes off her like a bad dye job on a telly anchorman - and so do her femaleness and godlessness and immigrant status. And in the end she is Charles Murray, or Geert Wilders - or even David Duke. A black Somali woman is, it turns out, a "white supremacist".

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is someone who fled genital mutilation and arranged marriage in a backward, barbarous society to come to the west and live in freedom. Her first stop was the Netherlands. But the director of the film she wrote, Theo van Gogh, was murdered in the street, and the man who shot him then drove two knives through what was left of his chest pinning to it a five-page death-threat promising to do the same to Ayaan. So she was forced to leave the Netherlands, and has lived with round-the-clock security ever since. Now she has to cross Australia off the list, too. Where's next? Can she speak in Sweden? Or Canada? Ireland or Germany? She left Somalia to live as a western woman, only to watch the west turn itself into Somalia, incrementally but remorselessly, at least as far as free speech is concerned.

It began, as it always does, respectably enough. Four hundred Muslim women in Australia - academics, social workers, diversicrats, supposed "human-rights activists" - signed a petition objecting to her tour Down Under but all artfully crafted in the usual weaselly more-in-sorrow-than-in-anger shtick, concluding with:
Australia deserves better than this.
Aww, that's so cute! Did you all tilt your heads in unison and group-furrow your brows into concerned expressions? The petition title's a doozy too:
Ayaan Hirsi-Ali [sic] Does Not Speak For Us

read on kids

https://www.steynonline.com/7740/the-big-shut-up

The media is more inclined to believe things that people have always assumed to be correct, when those beliefs are truncated, well you get this...
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
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#5
Sniff sniffily sniffty sniff. Trumpites are getting tired of not winning
 
Tecumsehsbones
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#6
Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

Sniff sniffily sniffty sniff. Trumpites are getting tired of not winning

Not at all. Clearly, just as Kim Jong Don predicted, they won so much they got sick of winning.
 
Dixie Cup
Conservative
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#7
Unfortunately, they don't like to hear the truth (because god forbid they might be wrong) and Ms.Hirsi Ali is a very competent woman who not only speaks the truth it but has lived and experienced what she talks about. These other so-called "women" are so totally out of touch and so brain-washed that they don't know that they stand for the opposite of what they think they believe.


I admire this woman greatly as I do others who speak out.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dixie Cup View Post

Unfortunately, they don't like to hear the truth (because god forbid they might be wrong) and Ms.Hirsi Ali is a very competent woman who not only speaks the truth it but has lived and experienced what she talks about. These other so-called "women" are so totally out of touch and so brain-washed that they don't know that they stand for the opposite of what they think they believe.


I admire this woman greatly as I do others who speak out.

Sounds like a good reason to take the vote away from them.
 
Dixie Cup
Conservative
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Quote: Originally Posted by tecumsehsbones View Post

sounds like a good reason to take the vote away from them.



huh?
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dixie Cup View Post

huh?

Sure. Here's the logic:

Quote:

These other so-called "women"

So they're not real women.

Quote:

are so totally out of touch and so brain-washed

I.e., not capable of making a reasonable decision.

Quote:

that they don't know that they stand for the opposite of what they think they believe.

Again, not competent to cast an informed, intelligent vote.

Ergo, they shouldn't be allowed to vote.

Nice job of leaving the conclusion to the reader.
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
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Wow a strawdog argument
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frikin' hillarious

so glad you are on the other side

really
 
DaSleeper
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dixie Cup View Post

huh?

You have to write your posts in legalese ......
Then nobody will read them except TBone....
 
EagleSmack
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The Liberals approve of female genital mutilation.
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Sure. Here's the logic:


So they're not real women.


I.e., not capable of making a reasonable decision.


Again, not competent to cast an informed, intelligent vote.

Ergo, they shouldn't be allowed to vote.

Nice job of leaving the conclusion to the reader.

That logic would apply to almost every lefty.

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

The Liberals approve of female genital mutilation.

Only if done by muslims. Not to be performed by white christians.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

That logic would apply to almost every lefty.

Of course it would. The left is no smarter than the right, an no more or less vicious, self-righteous, and narrow-minded.
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Of course it would. The left is no smarter than the right, an no more or less vicious, self-righteous, and narrow-minded.

You forgot uneducated. Even though many of them have useless university degrees.
 
petros
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The left ran a 100 mile race and fell backwards at the finish line and lost all while claiming a win for "trying".
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

You have to write your posts in legalese ......
Then nobody will read them except TBone....

In fake-legalize so a fake internet lawyer will read.
 
Bar Sinister
No Party Affiliation
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Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

Wow a strawdog argument
:0
frikin' hillarious

so glad you are on the other side

really


And everyone else is so glad they are not you, Bonehead.
 
Dixie Cup
Conservative
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Sure. Here's the logic:


So they're not real women.


I.e., not capable of making a reasonable decision.


Again, not competent to cast an informed, intelligent vote.

Ergo, they shouldn't be allowed to vote.

Nice job of leaving the conclusion to the reader.


Oh, so you took my "so called women" literally. ah. Yes, they are of the female persuasion but sometimes they can fool you and act like a man LOL.


I just meant that you would think they would "identify" with other women who have gone through some really tough times and have lived (aka survived) long enough and have the courage enough to actually speak about their experiences. I mean, after all, women are still low on the totem pole and are discriminated against horribly and don't get paid well etc., etc. Those are the "women" I was referring to mostly. But being "hard done by" they can't see the forest for the trees so individuals like Ms. Ali have no idea what these "women" go through on a day to day basis because living in Canada is simply so hard and unjust! People like Ms. Ali simply don't know what they're talking about.


I know, I know, I should have used the term "humans" instead but then maybe you wouldn't have responded in such a disparaging way right? LOL

Quote: Originally Posted by Dixie Cup View Post

Oh, so you took my "so called women" literally. ah. Yes, they are of the female persuasion but sometimes they can fool you and act like a man LOL.


I just meant that you would think they would "identify" with other women who have gone through some really tough times and have lived (aka survived) long enough and have the courage enough to actually speak about their experiences. I mean, after all, women are still low on the totem pole and are discriminated against horribly and don't get paid well etc., etc. Those are the "women" I was referring to mostly. But being "hard done by" they can't see the forest for the trees so individuals like Ms. Ali have no idea what these "women" go through on a day to day basis because living in Canada is simply so hard and unjust! People like Ms. Ali simply don't know what they're talking about.


I know, I know, I should have used the term "humans" instead but then maybe you wouldn't have responded in such a disparaging way right? LOL

Also, I'm not sure where the "voting" part came in - who said anything about women not being able to vote? Talk about making assumptions - huh. I can't but you can. Verrry interestink!
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Yep. Saying people are wrong is fine, good, and an essential part of debate. But that's not enough these days. Now we gotta dehumanize 'em. You did that real good.

Arbeit macht frei.
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#22
she learned that from YOU

hypocrisy will be the next lesson you teach eh?
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

she learned that from YOU

hypocrisy will be the next lesson you teach eh?

Did you get that from Infowars or Breitbart?
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#24
Nope from YOU dooood

It's your S.O.P.

A lot of the peeps I see you beat up on here I like, and IMHO don't deserve it, and so I likes to speak up in such a case(s).

just sayin
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

Nope from YOU dooood

It's your S.O.P.

A lot of the peeps I see you beat up on here I like, and IMHO don't deserve it, and so I likes to speak up in such a case(s).

just sayin

I'll get you a juice box.
 
Dixie Cup
Conservative
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Yep. Saying people are wrong is fine, good, and an essential part of debate. But that's not enough these days. Now we gotta dehumanize 'em. You did that real good.

Arbeit macht frei.



Gosh, I sure am glad I don't have your perspective on things - must be tough! I just say it as I see it and you can take it anyway you want - I DON'T GET OFFENDED 'cuz I'm tough!! LOL


Dix
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dixie Cup View Post

Gosh, I sure am glad I don't have your perspective on things - must be tough! I just say it as I see it and you can take it anyway you want - I DON'T GET OFFENDED 'cuz I'm tough!! LOL


Dix

I know what dehumanizing people you disagree with leads to.
 

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