More CBC drivel against Saskatchewan and Alberta crude


Locutus
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from sda

Harper cabinet readies major B.C. pipelines push

A parade of cabinet ministers and senior bureaucrats will head to British Columbia starting next week as part of a major push to mollify opponents of building oil pipelines to the West Coast, CBC News has learned.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper is signalling he intends to make progress on proposals to connect Alberta's oilsands with ports in British Columbia and the lucrative Asian markets beyond.

The new initiative is in large part a response to a report from the prime minister's special pipelines representative in British Columbia. Douglas Eyford told Harper last month that negotiations with First Nations — especially on Enbridge's proposed Northern Gateway — are a mess.

Eyford's report to the prime minister, and his final report in November, will not be made public.

But sources tell CBC News Eyford urged the federal government take the lead role in dealing with Indian bands on both the Gateway project and the proposed expansion of Kinder Morgan's Trans-Mountain pipeline.


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Harper cabinet readies major B.C. pipelines push - Politics - CBC News
 
tay
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What part of the story do you consider drivel?
 
Cliffy
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He will face more trouble for the northern pipeline than from just the aboriginals. The majority of BCers are against it. The Feds have no business trying to force their agenda down our throats and that will be make adamantly clear.
 
captain morgan
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

He will face more trouble for the northern pipeline than from just the aboriginals. The majority of BCers are against it. The Feds have no business trying to force their agenda down our throats and that will be make adamantly clear.

But it is the Feds business... They can push it through in the spirit of national interest.
 
hunboldt
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

But it is the Feds business... They can push it through in the spirit of national interest.


 
taxslave
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

He will face more trouble for the northern pipeline than from just the aboriginals. The majority of BCers are against it. The Feds have no business trying to force their agenda down our throats and that will be make adamantly clear.

Only in the south. The people I talk to from PG west are all in favour. Granted most of them are union construction workers or business people but whoever said the majority are against it have been very selective on who they ask.
Besides which it is of no concern to anyone living in Vancouver. They need to learn to keep their noses out of other peoples business.
 
Zipperfish
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

But it is the Feds business... They can push it through in the spirit of national interest.

Like the NEP?
 
captain morgan
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Exactly like the NEP... This time, the shoe is on the other foot it would seem
 
petros
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Mulcair hit the trail last week.
 
Zipperfish
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I don't have much problem with the pipeline. It's navigating VLCC tankers up the Douglas Arm that's an issue for me. Prince Rupert or Vancouver make more sense. I'm also concerend with cutbacks to the environment and the gutting of environmental legislation. It takes more than slick commercials to convince us in BC. Plus the lack of action on global warming.,
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

Exactly like the NEP... This time, the shoe is on the other foot it would seem

This time they have partners.

Quote: Originally Posted by Zipperfish View Post

I ahve no problem with the pipeline. It's navigating VLCC tankers up the Douglas Arm that's an issue for me. Prince Rupert or Vancouver make more sense. I'm also concerend with cutbacks to the environment and the gutting of environmental legislation. It takes more than slick commercials to convince us in BC.

Bauxite and aluminum boats have been running in and out of there for decades. How many aluminum/bauxite boats sank leaving or coming?

What is worse? An oil tanker springing a leak or an LNG ship sinking and leaking?
 
Zipperfish
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

Exactly like the NEP... This time, the shoe is on the other foot it would seem

The NEP didn't really work in the interests of the Liberal party in the long-term. I doubt ramming diluted bitumen tankers through in BC will help the Conservatives in the next election.

Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

This time they have partners.


Bauxite and aluminum boats have been running in and out of there for decades. How many aluminum/bauxite boats sank leaving or coming?

Bauxite doesn't have the same environmental impact as diluted bitumen. Bauxite vessels are much smaller than the proposed tankers. I don't know about Bauxite accidents, but we had a loaded BC Ferry drive right into the side of an island in the area.
 
petros
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It doesn't? You want Alzheimer's fish and wildlife? How much smaller?
 
hunboldt
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Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

It doesn't? You want Alzheimer's fish and wildlife? How much smaller?

YOU BETCHA.i WANT MY SALMON jumping in the boat like demented Asian silver carp..
 
petros
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Fluorosis will ensure they don't jump at all. But hey, oil is evil.
 
Zipperfish
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Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

It doesn't? You want Alzheimer's fish and wildlife? How much smaller?

As usual, you're making rather silly arguments, and trying the old spaghetti argument (throw it all at the wall and see what sticks).

I'll stick with my point-of-view that there are better ports for large oil tankers, and, if the government was serious about its commitments, they wouldn't have gutted their environmental legislation.

B.C. worries oil spill would 'overwhelm' resources | CTV News
 
petros
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Then BC better get off it's *** and deal with that because it's BC not SK or AB making the port fees revenue.
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by Zipperfish View Post

I don't have much problem with the pipeline. It's navigating VLCC tankers up the Douglas Arm that's an issue for me. Prince Rupert or Vancouver make more sense. I'm also concerend with cutbacks to the environment and the gutting of environmental legislation. It takes more than slick commercials to convince us in BC. Plus the lack of action on global warming.,

It's DOuglas Channel, not Douglas Arm. Ever been there? I work up there and believe me there is lots of room for ships. As I have stated before my preference would be farther down the channel towards Millbank Sound but that would requite another 40 or so miles of pipe.The LNG plants are being built right now in Kitimat. Mostly I think because the infrastructure is already there.
 
Northboy
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Thursday, September 12, 2013 01:27 PM


Ft St James- RCMP say that commercial vehicles attached to resource extraction have been turned away by a blockade, on the Leo Creek Road , leading into Takla Lake.

Access was blocked to commercial activity, while recreational and general vehicles, have been allowed to pass the blockade which is in place north of Ft St James in the Tlazten area.

Police say they are looking into whether charges will be laid.

Road Blockades have already started
 
skookumchuck
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We need to block all the natives from going to the store, we cannot provide for them anymore.
 
captain morgan
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Better yet; block them from filling up their 1/2 tons and SUV's... Won't be making it to the next protest I bet
 
hunboldt
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

Better yet; block them from filling up their 1/2 tons and SUV's... Won't be making it to the next protest I bet

so how many hundreds of Webo Ludwigs do you want to create out there, CM?
 
Zipperfish
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

It's DOuglas Channel, not Douglas Arm. Ever been there? I work up there and believe me there is lots of room for ships. As I have stated before my preference would be farther down the channel towards Millbank Sound but that would requite another 40 or so miles of pipe.The LNG plants are being built right now in Kitimat. Mostly I think because the infrastructure is already there.

Whatevs--Douglas Channel, Kitimat Arm. I've been there lots. I've been to Kitimat lots. I've been to Hartley Bay. Lots of room for a fishing vessel isn't the same as lots of room for a VLCC, particularly with LNG tankers navigating the same straits. Another concern is cuts to emergency response, such as the cutting of the Environemtn Canada oil spill response team in Vancouver.

The company may come back with a proposal to just use Panamax tankers, which would be better. Especially containerized ones.
 
skookumchuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by hunboldt View Post

so how many hundreds of Webo Ludwigs do you want to create out there, CM?

Webo was not a native, he were a kraut.
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by Zipperfish View Post

Whatevs--Douglas Channel, Kitimat Arm. I've been there lots. I've been to Kitimat lots. I've been to Hartley Bay. Lots of room for a fishing vessel isn't the same as lots of room for a VLCC, particularly with LNG tankers navigating the same straits. Another concern is cuts to emergency response, such as the cutting of the Environemtn Canada oil spill response team in Vancouver.

The company may come back with a proposal to just use Panamax tankers, which would be better. Especially containerized ones.

WEll if you don't like it feel free to leave my province. The rest of us want the high paying jobs. Nimbys are no longer welcome in Canada.
 
B00Mer
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hunboldt
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post





Good chart boomer

Quote: Originally Posted by skookumchuck View Post

Webo was not a native, he were a kraut.


irrelevant. Also wrong. He was a Friesian.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by hunboldt View Post

so how many hundreds of Webo Ludwigs do you want to create out there, CM?

Do you have any idea how many native RCMP there are who work gangs and smuggling rings that are slow for work lately because they've done so well?
 
skookumchuck
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

He will face more trouble for the northern pipeline than from just the aboriginals. The majority of BCers are against it. The Feds have no business trying to force their agenda down our throats and that will be make adamantly clear.


One who has no contact with normal people other than on an internet forum just has to be a spokesperson
The hinterland of BC has overspoken Vancouver and area before. The last election was a good example. The majority of BCers have a way of making a non hippee point.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

WEll if you don't like it feel free to leave my province. The rest of us want the high paying jobs. Nimbys are no longer welcome in Canada.

Bozos who think it is their right to rape and pillage their grandchildrens heritage are not welcome. A quick buck for long term loss it just plain idiotic. The oil and gas pipelines will devastate this province and our shorelines. Greed is going to do us all in.