Trump announces new “Space Force” military branch


White_Unifier
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-gwVFfTCnM

So the POTUS who's so worried about the US' balance of trade deficit has decided to spend like a drunken sailor to grow that deficit even more. Oh no, he's raising tariffs to prevent that. OK, so just growing public debt and inflation instead. I'm sure Americans appreciate that.

Oh and his priorities. While US public education is needs funding, the US debt spirals out of control, and US inflation grows, he's gonna build a space force.
 
petros
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He isn't "building" anything. He is taking space out of the hands of the air force.

Is there anything you have a full grasp on?
 
Hoof Hearted
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'Is there anything you have a full grasp on?"

Only when he visits Pornhub.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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OOOooo, a Space Force!

Maybe we can find a way to get a human to LEO other than buying a ticket on a Russian spacecraft.
 
Cliffy
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taxslave
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I believe it is spelt "farce". Like the Canadian Air Farce.
 
Bar Sinister
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Apparently Trump is completely unaware that there is a treaty demilitarizing space. But that really isn't a big surprise considering that Trump seems ignorant of almost everything except the ability to stuff his own pockets with taxpayer cash.



Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, Including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies




On June 16, 1966, both the United States and the Soviet Union submitted draft treaties. The U.S. draft dealt only with celestial bodies; the Soviet draft covered the whole outer space environment. The United States accepted the Soviet position on the scope of the Treaty, and by September agreement had been reached in discussions at Geneva on most Treaty provisions. Differences on the few remaining issues -- chiefly involving access to facilities on celestial bodies, reporting on space activities, and the use of military equipment and personnel in space exploration -- were satisfactorily resolved in private consultations during the General Assembly session by December.
On the 19th of that month the General Assembly approved by acclamation a resolution commending the Treaty. It was opened for signature at Washington, London, and Moscow on January 27, 1967. On April 25 the Senate gave unanimous consent to its ratification, and the Treaty entered into force on October 10, 1967.
 
White_Unifier
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He'll bankrupt the USA and then he won't need to worry about balance of trade deficits since the US won't be able to afford anything. A poor USA on our border will inevitably hurt Canada too.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

OOOooo, a Space Force!

Maybe we can find a way to get a human to LEO other than buying a ticket on a Russian spacecraft.

Is cutting the Russians out REALLY a part of the plan? There are serious debits to pay, out there. The Russian part might get bigger, not smaller.

Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

I believe it is spelt "farce". Like the Canadian Air Farce.

Is that how you saw it when you served defending your country?
 
spaminator
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make outer space great again
 
Hoid
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America's military will be the space police - led by President Bone Spurs.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

Apparently Trump is completely unaware that there is a treaty demilitarizing space. But that really isn't a big surprise considering that Trump seems ignorant of almost everything except the ability to stuff his own pockets with taxpayer cash.



Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, Including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies




On June 16, 1966, both the United States and the Soviet Union submitted draft treaties. The U.S. draft dealt only with celestial bodies; the Soviet draft covered the whole outer space environment. The United States accepted the Soviet position on the scope of the Treaty, and by September agreement had been reached in discussions at Geneva on most Treaty provisions. Differences on the few remaining issues -- chiefly involving access to facilities on celestial bodies, reporting on space activities, and the use of military equipment and personnel in space exploration -- were satisfactorily resolved in private consultations during the General Assembly session by December.
On the 19th of that month the General Assembly approved by acclamation a resolution commending the Treaty. It was opened for signature at Washington, London, and Moscow on January 27, 1967. On April 25 the Senate gave unanimous consent to its ratification, and the Treaty entered into force on October 10, 1967.

That great but since 67 how many other nations have made it to space?
 
Bar Sinister
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Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

That great but since 67 how many other nations have made it to space?


That is not relevant, but since you ask it is now 14 and seven of them are nuclear powers.
 
Gilgamesh
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Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

That is not relevant, but since you ask it is now 14 and seven of them are nuclear powers.

According to American law only congress can create a new branch of the military.

So, as usual he is full of sh*t.

Under American law Trump has no legal power to create a new branch of the military.

Only Congress can do this.

As usual his demented diseased brain shows itself.

What a anal orifice !
 
spaminator
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'NEXT BATTLEFIELD': U.S. VP Mike Pence outlines plan for new Space Force by 2020
Associated Press
Published:
August 9, 2018
Updated:
August 9, 2018 6:43 PM EDT
WASHINGTON — Pointing to growing threats and competition from Russia and China, the White House on Thursday announced ambitious plans to create the U.S. Space Force as a sixth, separate military warfighting service by 2020.
The proposal taps into the American public’s long fascination with space — but with a military focus. The plan faces daunting hurdles and requires congressional approval. Military leaders and experts have questioned the wisdom of launching an expensive, bureaucratic new service branch.
U.S. Vice-President Mike Pence announced the new force during a Pentagon speech, fleshing out an idea that President Donald Trump has extolled in recent months as he vowed to ensure American dominance in space. Pence described space as a domain that was once peaceful and uncontested but has now become crowded and adversarial.
“Now the time has come to write the next great chapter in the history of our armed forces, to prepare for the next battlefield where America’s best and bravest will be called to deter and defeat a new generation of threats to our people, to our nation,” Pence said.
Trump marked Pence’s announcement with a tweet: “Space Force all the way!”
Space Force all the way!

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 09, 2018
Pence portrayed the change as a response to foes’ potential aggression rather than any offensive U.S. military effort.
Citing Russia and China, he said that for years U.S. adversaries have “pursued weapons to jam, blind and disable our navigation and communication satellites via electronic attacks from the ground.”
“As their actions make clear, our adversaries have transformed space into a warfighting domain already, and the United States will not shrink from this challenge,” he said.
In June, the president directed the Pentagon to create a “separate but equal” space force, a complicated and expensive move that could take years to gain Congress’ approval and become operational. On Thursday, Pence said the administration will work with Congress on the plan and will outline a budget next year. The last time the U.S. created a new uniformed military service was in 1947, when the Air Force was launched after World War II. It joined the Army, Navy, Marine Corps and Coast Guard.
Defence Secretary Jim Mattis has endorsed steps to reorganize the military’s space-warfighting forces and create a new command, but he previously opposed launching an expensive new service. A new branch of the military would require layers of bureaucracy, military and civilian leaders, uniforms, equipment and an expansive support structure.
Asked about the cost, Deputy Defence Secretary Patrick Shanahan told reporters the Pentagon doesn’t have a number yet but will when the legislative proposal is finished by the end of the year.
“I would assume it’s billions,” he said. Shanahan said Mattis’ opposition to a separate service last year was rooted in concerns about spending more on overhead while under strict budget caps — implying that those worries may not be as great now.
#Trump‘s re-election campaign asks supporters to vote on Space Force logos. >> buff.ly/2vUb2gp https://t.co/5ZHisZsa5I

(@WAFB) August 09, 2018
Deborah James, who served as Air Force secretary for the final three years of the Obama administration, estimated it would be five to 10 years before a separate service would be fully formed.
“Eventually, it’ll settle out, but you will go through years of thrashing. And is that thrashing going to slow your momentum or is it going to help you achieve your goals and address the real challenges that we have on our plate?” she said at Brookings Institution last week. “I don’t think so. I don’t. I wouldn’t vote in favour of it.”
The military’s role in space has been under scrutiny because the United States is increasingly reliant on orbiting satellites that are difficult to protect. Satellites provide communications, navigation, intelligence and other services vital to the military and the national economy.
U.S. intelligence agencies reported earlier this year that Russia and China were pursuing “nondestructive and destructive” anti-satellite weapons for use during a future war. And there are growing worries about cyberattacks that could target satellite technology, potentially leaving troops in combat without electronic communications or navigation abilities.
The Pentagon proposal delivered to Congress on Thursday lays out plans to consolidate U.S. warfighting space forces and make organizational changes to boost the acquisition and development of technologies.
It says the department will establish a Space Command to develop warfighting operations, a Space Development Agency to more quickly identify and develop new technologies, a Space Operations Force of leaders and fighters and a new support structure. In the second phase, the Pentagon would combine all the components into the new sixth branch of service.
In the meantime, the Space Command would be led by a four-star general, and Pence said a new high-level civilian post — assistant defence secretary for space — would also be created.
“We are glad that the Pentagon is finally taking these steps in enhancing our space strength,” Reps. Mike Rogers, R-Ala., and Jim Cooper, D-Tenn., leaders of the House Armed Services Subcommittee on Strategic Forces, said in a statement. They said the Pentagon report was the start of a “multi-year process that we think will result in a safer, stronger America.”
Much of the military’s current space power is wielded by the Air Force Space Command, which has its headquarters at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, Colorado. The command has about 38,000 personnel and operates 185 military satellite systems, including the Global Positioning System and communications and weather satellites. It also oversees Air Force cyberwarfare.
Under the new plan, space elements that are now scattered across the department would be gathered under one command, which Pence said would better ensure integration across the military.
Pentagon Space Force plan
WASHINGTON — The Trump administration’s plan to establish a Space Force as a new branch of the military will unfold in phases and will require congressional approval.
According to an outline submitted to Congress on Thursday, the Pentagon will:
— As a first step, recommend to President Donald Trump that he approve creation of a U.S. Space Command by the end of this year. It would be headed by a four-star general. Space Command’s main role would be to prepare for conflict in space and to lead U.S. space forces should such a war begin.
— Create a Space Development Agency to accelerate the development and fielding of technologies required for a Space Force. It will report to a civilian.
— Establish a Space Operations Force, which will be a group of space technology and space warfare experts. This group would be the core of an eventual Space Force, to be created as a separate military service. These experts would be developed over time much like the military in the past has created cadres of service members with expertise in medicine, cyber operations and commando operations.
— Submit to Congress, as part of its 2020 budget request, a legislative proposal for creation of a Space Force as a separate military service. Deputy Defence Secretary Patrick Shanahan said Thursday the Pentagon has not yet calculated what this will cost, but he said it will run into the billions.
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MHz
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NASA can't have their animations toned down or people will start finding out things.






70 years and $7T in taxpayer funding and this is all you get as far as advancement.

The bomb industry is now pushing vaporized gasoline being ignited is the new trend in bombs, from the Israel fire breathing ones that just came on the scene recently so they are small drones to the MOAB that needs a bomber to deliver just 1 of them. That's not a very big change from when Dresden was burned to the ground, for a variety of reasons. Showing the winners were even more insane than the losers is one item that isn't covered let alone the worst of them were rewarded with careers at NASA or the CIA.

Operation paperclip is not known for the fine details it lets out so the scale is also unknown. Pushing a few plane loads would be the way it is wanted rather than it being closer to 2M men and their families that were removed so they did not spill their guts at the war crimes trials. Sound familiar to the rescue of the White Helmets recently, rather ISIS dressed up as a member of the White Helmets, when they showed up Israel shot them dead.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by Gilgamesh View Post

According to American law only congress can create a new branch of the military.

So, as usual he is full of sh*t.

Under American law Trump has no legal power to create a new branch of the military.

Only Congress can do this.

As usual his demented diseased brain shows itself.

What a anal orifice !

Don't you feel kind of stupid?
 
MHz
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Are you suggesting he could give up stupid if he wanted too? That's cold bro.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

That is not relevant, but since you ask it is now 14 and seven of them are nuclear powers.

Hmm. You mean that there is a connection between building space craft and building ICBM delivery vehicles for nuclear weapons?

Say it ain't so!

Israeli spacecraft aims for historic moon landing... within months | The Times of Israel
 
MHz
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Is that the Arrow 3 and its 'hover location'?
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by spaminator View Post

make outer space great again

http://youtu.be/t9wmWZbr_wQ
 
Twin_Moose
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Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

That is not relevant, but since you ask it is now 14 and seven of them are nuclear powers.

So when China successfully test fired and destroyed a satellite they obeyed the non-militarization of space?
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

So when China successfully test fired and destroyed a satellite they obeyed the non-militarization of space?

So, the creation of yet another massive, multi$$bil military bureaucracy to (join the other five already in existence) is the appropriate response to the Chinese testing a satellite killer out on their predictible "mechanical mouse" target in orbit?

The USAF has had the Space file for sixty years now and they are good at it. The "Space Force" bullshit is a publicity stunt. It will never fly, Orville.
 
Twin_Moose
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Just dusting off Reagan's Star Wars platform
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post


The USAF has had the Space file for sixty years now and they are good at it. The "Space Force" bullshit is a publicity stunt. It will never fly, Orville.

It will never fly Orville.

Do you know who Orville is? Does Orville Wright ring a bell?

Dumbass doesn't even know what the phrase means.
 
Cliffy
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DaSleeper
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Cliffy
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DaSleeper
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Cliffy
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