9 Killed, 16 Wounded, Shooter Dead in Ohio Mass Shooting


Walter
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#61
Dayton shooter Connor Betts may be antifa’s first mass killer
https://nypost.com/2019/08/06/dayton...t-mass-killer/

Yep.
 
Hoid
#62
Hard to believe that the racist is admitting there have never been any antifa mass murderers
 
petros
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#63
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Dayton shooter Connor Betts may be antifa’s first mass killer
https://nypost.com/2019/08/06/dayton...t-mass-killer/
Yep.

Mike DeWine wants to ban guns then handle mental health.

Does addressing mental health first and not having to ban gun makes more sense?
 
Tecumsehsbones
#64
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Mike DeWine wants to ban guns then handle mental health.
Does addressing mental health first and not having to ban gun makes more sense?

Not really. "Mental health" is such a nebulous term that it isn't helpful, which is exactly why the gun nuts focus on it. While at the same time cutting mental health funding.
 
petros
#65
Well gee maybe you need a system where healthcare is free but you still pay $95 a month for it and still underfund mental & emotional care by 90% like the gun nuts in Ottawa?
 
Tecumsehsbones
#66
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Well gee maybe you need a system where healthcare is free but you still pay $95 a month for it and still underfund mental & emotional care by 90% like the gun nuts in Ottawa?

Not if it produces people as chronically unable to follow a conversation as you.
 
Walter
#67
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

Has it been proven that the Dayton shooter was a supporter? I hadn't heard yet that it was confirmed.
And yes, I posted that question on a threat discussing all of this.
I'd like to know how many extreme left shooters that are guilty of something on this scale. Yes, I've goggled it myself, but I want to see what the right wing types post to see what they all say.

ABC Admits Ohio Shooter Was a ‘Leftist’
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...ll-covering-it
 
Serryah
#68
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Mao Zedong, killed more people than anyone else ever has, circa 80,000,000. He was a supporter of Trump.


o_O


Um...


What the hell you talkin' bout, Walter?
 
Serryah
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#69
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

ABC Admits Ohio Shooter Was a ‘Leftist’
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...ll-covering-it


Unbiased source please.


That they're quoting a twitter profile that is not confirmed to be the shooter's is questionable.


If it DOES belong to the shooter, then as I said, if Warren et al do not denounce him they're just as bad as Trump.
 
petros
#70
Gun nuts are just as ignored as moonbats and all the lost souls in between.

Underfunding by 90% goes far beyond left, right, up, down or sideways.

If effort was put forth all violence not just gun violence would plummet. Addictions and overall use of "escape" would plummet. Drop out rate down. Poverty down. Crime down.

Who is at fault? Every damn one of us.
 
pgs
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#71
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Gun nuts are just as ignored as moonbats and all the lost souls in between.

Underfunding by 90% goes far beyond left, right, up, down or sideways.

If effort was put forth all violence not just gun violence would plummet. Addictions and overall use of "escape" would plummet. Drop out rate down. Poverty down. Crime down.

Who is at fault? Every damn one of us.

There is funding it just gets eaten by the bureaucracy, ask spillthebeer he can explain it , I am sure .
 
Hoid
#72
White natty's are desperate to put out the fire their boys have lit.

I don't care how many lefties are mass murderers white supremacists are a clear and present danger.
 
taxslave
#73
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

White natty's are desperate to put out the fire their boys have lit.
I don't care how many lefties are mass murderers white supremacists are a clear and present danger.

Most of the white supremacists are antifa members. They are the real danger to our way of life.
 
pgs
#74
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

White natty's are desperate to put out the fire their boys have lit.

I don't care how many lefties are mass murderers white supremacists are a clear and present danger.

Really , you don’t care how many mass murders leftist commit . Really ?
 
Hoid
#75
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Really , you don’t care how many mass murders leftist commit . Really ?

what is the likelihood that white natty climate change deniers would also believe all terrorists are lefties?
 
pgs
#76
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

what is the likelihood that white natty climate change deniers would also believe all terrorists are lefties?

Who said that ? Why is it mandatory that warped people have political opinions or sides ?
 
Serryah
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#77
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Most of the white supremacists are antifa members. They are the real danger to our way of life.


...


I... don't think that's likely, since most white supremacists are fascists, and being part of antifa would be counter their beliefs.
 
pgs
#78
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

...


I... don't think that's likely, since most white supremacists are fascists, and being part of antifa would be counter their beliefs.

Where are these white supremists , do you know any personally ?
 
Tecumsehsbones
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#79
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Most of the white supremacists are antifa members. They are the real danger to our way of life.

Can you even define "antifa?"
 
Curious Cdn
#80
Does it maybe derive from ... "Anti" ... "Fascist"?

Yup ... Terrorists ...

Like these guys: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Maquis
 
Hoid
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#81
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Can you even define "antifa?"

If you are going to deny them the use of words they can't define we are going to be in a bit of a spot.
 
Curious Cdn
#82
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

If you are going to deny them the use of words they can't define we are going to be in a bit of a spot.

Republican talking point words like "Antifa" and "collusion" and "birther" have been carefully crafted during lengthy focus sessions and they are not to be mocked or questioned.
 
pgs
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#83
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Republican talking point words like "Antifa" and "collusion" and "birther" have been carefully crafted during lengthy focus sessions and they are not to be mocked or questioned.

What did happen with that Russian collusion thing ?
 
Curious Cdn
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#84
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

What did happen with that Russian collusion thing ?

That Republican talking point thing ran it's course, for now. When Trump is finally out of office, he will be inducted as per the outcome of the Meuller investigation, likely for Conspiracy. There is no such thing as "collusion" beyond Breitbart publications and the mindless drones who repeat it on internet forums, brainlessly believing that they're scoring some sort of points.

...oh, and Trump who endless repeats the scripted "collusion" in his hourly Twitter denial ...
 
Twin_Moose
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#85
Dayton gunman's friend due in court on gun-related charge
 
spaminator
#86
Parents of Dayton mass murderer apologize for 'insensitive' obituary
Washington Post
Published:
August 15, 2019
Updated:
August 15, 2019 11:42 AM EDT
Connor Betts of Bellbrook, Ohio appears in an identity photograph released by police in Dayton, Ohio.Dayton Police Department / Handout via REUTERS
After Connor Betts killed nine people, including his sister, in Dayton, Ohio, last week, acquaintances described the 24-year-old as a deeply troubled individual who was obsessed with guns, carried a “hit list” of classmates, and had a history of violently lashing out against women.
But an obituary published on behalf of his family this week painted a markedly different picture, describing the gunman as “a funny, articulate and intelligent man with striking blue eyes and a kind smile.”
Betts, his grieving parents wrote, was a former Boy Scout and avid reader. He sang in a men’s choral group, played the baritone horn in his high school’s marching band, and worked at Chipotle Mexican Grill while attending community college. The obituary made no mention of the mass shooting, or the fact that Betts had died in a hail of police gunfire as he tried to enter a crowded bar. Instead, it highlighted his love of electronic dance music, Xbox and the Fox animated series “Bob’s Burgers.”
“Connor will be missed immensely by his friends, family, and especially his good dog Teddy,” the notice concluded.
Publicly memorializing a mass killer was an unusual move, and it appears to have led to swift backlash. By Wednesday night, the obituary had been removed from the funeral home’s website.
“Stephen and Moira Betts apologize that the wording of the obituary for their son Connor was insensitive in not acknowledging the terrible tragedy that he created,” said a statement that stood in its place. “In their grief, they presented the son that they knew, which in no way reduces the horror of his last act. We are deeply sorry.”
People congregate around a memorial to those killed in a mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio. (Photo by Scott Olson/Getty Images)
While mourning both their children, the couple had unwittingly stumbled into a dilemma that often confounds the families of mass shooters and other notorious killers: How do you grieve the person you’ve lost in a way that isn’t disrespectful to their victims?
As The Washington Post’s Sarah Kaplan reported in 2015, the parents of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold had to grapple with this question after their sons killed 13 people during the 1999 massacre at Columbine High School. Klebold’s family had their 17-year-old son cremated, which eliminated the problem of finding a place to lay him to rest. But they still wanted to hold a funeral and organized a small, somber event, with mourners taking detours so they wouldn’t attract attention. Despite these precautions, however, the pastor who conducted the ceremony lost his job amid widespread blowback. Harris’s parents, meanwhile, have never said where their 18-year-old son is buried.
Dylan Klebold examines a shot-up bowling pin used for target practice at a makeshift shooting range March 6, 1999 in Douglas County, (Photo by Jefferson County Sheriff’s Department via Getty Images)
Neither have the surviving relatives of Adam Lanza, who killed 26 people, most of whom were children, at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, in 2012, after murdering his mother. His father, Peter Lanza, spoke candidly about the 20-year-old gunman’s troubled life and apparent mental health issues an interview with Britain’s Daily Telegraph in 2014, the only interview that he has given to date. But he clammed up when asked what he had done for a funeral after claiming his son’s body.
“No one knows that,” the father firmly stated. “And no one ever will.”
Many cemeteries refuse to accept the bodies of notorious killers, fearing the potential for outrage, the Miami Herald has reported. When families are able to find a burial plot, they typically keep its location a secret, and avoid putting up a marker or headstone. Otherwise, there’s a risk that the site could become a target for vandals. Another potential danger is that the grave could attract a small subset of people who idolize the killer – a problem that’s all too familiar to officials in Littleton, Colorado, who recently debated tearing down Columbine High School because it keeps attracting visitors with a “morbid fascination” with school shooters. (The proposal was dropped last month.)
Tamerlan, left, and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, brothers who planted bombs at the finish line of the Boston Marathon on April 15, 2013. Dzhokhar is trying to escape the death penalty. THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
For some, like Klebold’s family, cremation is an easier alternative, and one that’s unlikely to cause offense. But the practice is prohibited under Islamic law, which has led to complications in high-profile cases where the perpetrator is Muslim. After the 2013 Boston Marathon bombing, for instance, no cemeteries in Massachusetts were willing to take the body of Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who was accused of masterminding the attack. When protesters learned where the 26-year-old’s body was being held, they gathered outside the funeral home with American flags and signs that read, “Do not bury him on U.S. soil,” and, “It’s a disgrace to our military.” Tsarnaev’s body ultimately ended up in an unmarked grave in Virginia.
Even in cases that don’t involve mass shootings, it’s unusual for murderers to be memorialized in obituaries that appear on funeral home websites and as paid notices in local newspapers. But one notable exception came in 2016, when Joshua Bishop, a Georgia man who had killed an acquaintance during a drug-fueled fight over car keys, received the death penalty.
“Just like when you lose any other friend, none of us wanted the news of the execution to be the last word about Josh,” Sarah Gerwig-Moore, a Mercer University Law School professor who was part of Bishop’s legal team, told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution at the time. “He was so much more than the worst thing he has ever done. He was more to us than someone who committed a horrible crime.”
Megan Betts, left, and brother Connor Betts. (Facebook)
For Connor Betts’s parents, such considerations were undoubtedly complicated by the fact that they had another obituary to write – this one honoring his sister, 22-year-old Megan Betts, whom they described as a talented writer and loyal friend fascinated by geology and space exploration. And after their son’s obituary was removed and replaced by an apology, something surprising happened: Supportive comments started pouring in from strangers who offered prayers and well wishes, acknowledging that the family was facing unthinkable pain and grief.
“You have nothing to apologize for,” one commenter wrote. “You knew and saw a side of your son that was precious to you. Hold onto those memories. God bless you.”
http://torontosun.com/news/world/par...itive-obituary
 
Walter
#87
Gotta feel for those parents.