Tesla moves closer to mass-market electric car by 2017


Hoid
#31
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

Nope... Bombardier



Got a link?

No I don;t have a link to quickly prove this to be true. It will require that you research the subject in order to arrive at some sort of understanding.
 
captain morgan
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#32
It's difficult to take your word for it and quite frankly, this potential would have been widely advertised by the EV lobby had it been confirmed. Considering that coal fired power generation plants are being legislated out of existence, one would expect that this fact would be front and center.

That said, you're basically asking that folks believe your statement based solely on your individual belief
 
petros
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#33
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Part of Ford's genius was paying his workers enough to buy his product.



Electric cars do have a larger footprint than gas but when they are powered by clean energy sources their total emissions are far far lower than even the best gas engines.

The dirtier than gas myth is based on electric cars using coal burning power - which is true - and is an reason not to build or use coal not a reason not to use electric cars.

Great if you commute but why not CNG powered micro cars like Tata sells in India? $5000, wicked mileage and emissions and freedom of on demand fill up on the road or at home overnight refills that work out to $0.13 per litre with your own CNG compressor.
 
captain morgan
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#34
With a lower operating (fuel) cost and super low capital cost, the gubmint will collect far less in taxes
 
MHz
+1
#35
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

It's difficult to take your word for it and quite frankly, this potential would have been widely advertised by the EV lobby had it been confirmed. Considering that coal fired power generation plants are being legislated out of existence, one would expect that this fact would be front and center.

That said, you're basically asking that folks believe your statement based solely on your individual belief

What is wrong with this generation saying 'no' and keeping them running till the coal is just about exhausted. The only reason they are being shut down is in support of curbing global warming farce. As long as the grandkids know they have to make the change they can probably get it done better using all the nifty robots we left them. Spending billions on needless things is what is raising taxes including wars that only serve the interests of the one at the top of the food chain. Poor can't be that bad or so many people would be in that group.

Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

With a lower operating (fuel) cost and super low capital cost, the gubmint will collect far less in taxes

What the Government needs to collect are a lot of pink slips. Then watch the push for bigger and better social programs by nobody than the ones screaming about cutting costs.
Get a debate going between the Feds and the Provincial Government over which one should represent the country. The loser better have some hobbies in mind as there won't be any jobs waiting for them.
 
captain morgan
#36
Today's generation is mired in the immediate gratification cycle and this has severely impaired their perspective.
 
MHz
#37
More like we have forgotten that we are the majority and the ones in Government are hired hands and nothing more. As valuable as chaff after the threshing is done. Change to referendum voting using your Revenue Canada account and bribing the 'elected' would end right then and there. Good reason why it will never be implemented.
 
captain morgan
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#38
As long as the hired-hands have the power and no fear of recall, there is absolutely nothing that the public can do until the next election.

That said, all of the entitlement idiots and immediate gratification losers are so easily led by the nose, this pattern of useless gvt will persist
 
MHz
#39
Are there any plans to use the asphalt available at Cold Lake or Ft Mac in this design? Why not use capacitors as they charge almost instantly?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28953348
Ultrafast Charging High Capacity Asphalt-Lithium Metal Batteries.

George Carlin put it something like. There is the rich, the middle class and the poor. The middle class does the work the rich don't want to do and the poor are there to remind the middle class what will happen to them if they don't do the work requested by the rich.
It is a system that has only one future, it crashes. That can be engineered but them and it is unlikely the next system will be an improvement for the poor.
 
petros
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#40
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

With a lower operating (fuel) cost and super low capital cost, the gubmint will collect far less in taxes

Gas stations are going to "charge" out the ass.
 
MHz
#41
Why would a person not charge it at home when it is parked for the night?? Having 'the charge' on that bill might make it appear that they are not paying more per kw.

Canada also has to worry about heating the inside of the car when it is cold for about 5 months of the year. Ceramic heater cores exist today but the still take a lot of juice to run, as does AC on hot days.
 
Hoid
#42
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Gas stations are going to "charge" out the ass.

If it costs you $75 to tank up your car it is going to cost you $75 to charge it up or it ain't going to happen.

Business and government will still team up at the trough.
 
Hoid
#43
Tesla Wins In Missouri And Faces 5 More Big Fights | Fortune

Tesla wins the first of 6 lawsuits against it by car dealers who say Tesla selling cars directly online violates their constitutional right to middle man the product and mark it up.

It is an interesting test of American law and is by no means a slam dunk.
 
petros
#44
How is that "mass production" coming along? Do they produce more Tesla's than Ford produces F150s yet?
 
TenPenny
#45
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Tesla Wins In Missouri And Faces 5 More Big Fights | Fortune

Tesla wins the first of 6 lawsuits against it by car dealers who say Tesla selling cars directly online violates their constitutional right to middle man the product and mark it up.

It is an interesting test of American law and is by no means a slam dunk.



Will be interesting to see what they can do in New Jersey.


If Tesla ever figures out how to build a car that doesn't need so much rework once it comes off the line, they might have something.


Me, I wouldn't touch one, because once they go bankrupt, the cars will be worthless.
 
Hoid
#46
they are the iPhone of cars